Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 In a message dated 3/26/2006 5:16:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, megaknee@... writes: >> And if anyone wants to know how the European "immigrants" subsequently > treated the Aboriginal population in Canada, here is an articleabout The > Canadian Holocaust (NOT for sensitive people): > http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/canada.html> > IngerIn this they were behaving as invaders rather than as immigrants. Sorry about that, sent the other post without typing anything. Stories like that aren't uncommon. When a more advanced culture meets a less advanced culture (technologically speaking) two things invariably happen: the less advanced culture gets absorbed by the other or there is war in which one or the other is destroyed. Some native Americans were absorbed more or less while others found war. This was not limited to North America. Indeed the natives in what is now Latin America had it much worse under the Spanish with some cultures being so thoroughly destroyed they vanished from history until recently. One example of that is the Amazonian "empire": a native culture with very advanced agriculture that reached from the mouth of the Amazon River to nearly its headlands and probably numbered in the millions. Disease is probably what wiped them out, perhaps accidently. Africa and Asia have seen the same as well, including many episodes of more advanced or just more ruthless native tribes wiping out others. Indeed China came close to ceasing to be when it was conquored by the Mongols. The Khan (I don't recall which one) wanted to kill all the people so his horses could have unrestricted grazing land, but he was persuaded that having live people to do the work, make things for the tribes and produce taxes would be better the Khan than more grassland. If not for that decision, Chinese culture could well have been extinguished then and there. Other people to the west weren't as lucky and were completely wiped out by the Mongol hordes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 In a message dated 3/26/2006 7:22:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, ravenmagic2003@... writes: Actually the Abenaki were a far more advanced culture insofar as we had a democratic society where men and women were equal in decisions for the village. I qualified the statement to mean technologically superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 > > And if anyone wants to know how the European " immigrants " subsequently > treated the Aboriginal population in Canada, here is an article about The > Canadian Holocaust (NOT for sensitive people): > http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/canada.html > > Inger In this they were behaving as invaders rather than as immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Exactly! Raven > > > > And if anyone wants to know how the European " immigrants " subsequently > > treated the Aboriginal population in Canada, here is an article > about The > > Canadian Holocaust (NOT for sensitive people): > > http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/canada.html > > > > Inger > > In this they were behaving as invaders rather than as immigrants. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 " When a more advanced culture meets a less advanced culture (technologically speaking) two things invariably happen: the less advanced culture gets absorbed by the other or there is war in which one or the other is destroyed. " Actually the Abenaki were a far more advanced culture insofar as we had a democratic society where men and women were equal in decisions for the village. Then came the Europeans and we were stripped of our ways and forced to live the way Europeans dictated to us. Our democratic rights were taken from us until almost 50 years ago, when Aboriginals were finally 'allowed' to vote in elections. We weren't absorbed because of being a less advanced culture, we were bullied by ignorant bullies who arrived in numbers, wiped out great numbers of our people with diseases and bad lifestyles (ie. alcohol), and acted like they owned the world. We weren't destroyed because we knew that Great Spirit had a plan, even if we did not understand these Dark Times. Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re the > ... ignorant bullies who arrived in numbers, wiped out great numbers of our > people with diseases and bad lifestyles (ie. alcohol), and acted like they > owned the world. We weren't destroyed because we knew that Great > Spirit had a plan, even if we did not understand these Dark Times. What do you (you individually - and/or Native Americans generally) see as the Great Spirit's plan with regard to these Dark Times? Yours for better letters, Kate Gladstone Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest handwritingrepair@... http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair 325 South Manning Boulevard Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA telephone 518/482-6763 AND REMEMBER ... you can order books through my site! (Amazon.com link - I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Kate, if I thought for a minute that your question was sincere, I would answer it. However, I have my reservations (pardon the pun) about your reasons for asking and will decline answering until I know what your motives are. Raven > > Re the > > > ... ignorant bullies who arrived in numbers, wiped out great numbers of our > > people with diseases and bad lifestyles (ie. alcohol), and acted like they > > owned the world. We weren't destroyed because we knew that Great > > Spirit had a plan, even if we did not understand these Dark Times. > > What do you (you individually - and/or Native Americans generally) see > as the Great Spirit's plan with regard to these Dark Times? > > > Yours for better letters, > Kate Gladstone > Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest > handwritingrepair@... > http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair > 325 South Manning Boulevard > Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA > telephone 518/482-6763 > AND REMEMBER ... > you can order books through my site! > (Amazon.com link - > I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Raven, I asked sincerely. I have one motive for asking: to know how Native Americans understand those evil events. Yours for better letters, Kate Gladstone Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest handwritingrepair@... http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair 325 South Manning Boulevard Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA telephone 518/482-6763 AND REMEMBER ... you can order books through my site! (Amazon.com link - I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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