Re: Adult Forum Needed for Adult Topics

[Guest guest]

That's a good idea. I'm not overly comfortable discussing this sort of stuff

with possible minors around either. But I will still reply to a direct

question. Dilemma indeed.

Inger

Adult Forum Needed for Adult Topics

If I was a parent I would not want my child a member of such

discussions, not to embarrass people but there should be an adult

aspie forum just for sensative adult issues. I think generaly forums

are for all age ranges, just some topics are for adults only.

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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[Guest guest]

FAM will not make a forum for " Adult " topics.

With that said, as Kajira and Inger were posting, I was out inviting

folks to the Christian forum, and did not see the posts.

So, to everyone: Let's stop posting about BDSM for a while.

Tom

Administrator

If I was a parent I would not want my child a member of such

discussions, not to embarrass people but there should be an adult

aspie forum just for sensative adult issues. I think generaly forums

are for all age ranges, just some topics are for adults only.

[Guest guest]

I can appreciate what you're getting at, , but at the same

time, doesn't it depend on how it is discussed? If I'm not mistaken,

isn't there a family forum available? Very considerate of you to

think of it, however.

Since we're on the topic of adults only, after all the sex/violence

discussions lately, I'm curious to know: why is it okay to show

people killing each other on regular tv but not having sex? It seems

strange to me. Not that I want to watch either one particularly, mind

you, just that it seems strange to object to one and not the other.

Jill

>

> If I was a parent I would not want my child a member of such

> discussions, not to embarrass people but there should be an adult

> aspie forum just for sensative adult issues. I think generaly forums

> are for all age ranges, just some topics are for adults only.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't watch T.V, also as for reality, T.V is acting, I saw a movie

the other week I wanted to leave. I talked about that which likely

initiated the conversation concerning that.

I don't like blood, but I like strategy.

>

> I can appreciate what you're getting at, , but at the same

> time, doesn't it depend on how it is discussed? If I'm not mistaken,

> isn't there a family forum available? Very considerate of you to

> think of it, however.

>

> Since we're on the topic of adults only, after all the sex/violence

> discussions lately, I'm curious to know: why is it okay to show

> people killing each other on regular tv but not having sex? It seems

> strange to me. Not that I want to watch either one particularly, mind

> you, just that it seems strange to object to one and not the other.

>

> Jill

>

[Guest guest]

The Family Forum is for parents of Aspies to ask Aspies questions

related to child-rearing. It is also a place for non-Aspie spouses

to ask opinions of Aspies about their Aspie spouses.

The no " Adult " content rule applies there as well.

Sexual topics can be discussed in either place but not in a way that

is pornographic.

Tom

Administrator

>

> If I was a parent I would not want my child a member of such

> discussions, not to embarrass people but there should be an adult

> aspie forum just for sensative adult issues. I think generaly

forums

> are for all age ranges, just some topics are for adults only.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Which is more disturbing to you: reading a description, such as

Kajira's, or seeing two actors approximating what she was writing about?

For me, seeing visuals feels unprotected somehow even if it is only

acting. With the written word, there is enough space for me to keep my

own boundary. Even as quickly as I'm able to translate from language to

symbol in my mind, it still provides protection from the psychic

violence that I get from certain images. Some may laugh, but

there is a certain scene in Pulp Fiction that would not leave my mind

for about a week. Doesn't matter if I tell myself it's just acting,

somehow it still hurts.

Jill

>

> I don't watch T.V, also as for reality, T.V is acting, I saw a movie

> the other week I wanted to leave. I talked about that which likely

> initiated the conversation concerning that.

>

> I don't like blood, but I like strategy.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for setting me straight, Tom. ;-)

>

> The Family Forum is for parents of Aspies to ask Aspies questions

> related to child-rearing. It is also a place for non-Aspie spouses

> to ask opinions of Aspies about their Aspie spouses.

>

> The no " Adult " content rule applies there as well.

>

> Sexual topics can be discussed in either place but not in a way that

> is pornographic.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I was around 2, I recall seeing on the T.V a program with aliens in it, I never liked the aliens and it sort of was scary at that age. Sort of reminds me of WrongPlanet and the alien theme.At this point it is more of an embarrassment, sociopsychopathologically the sexual reality if distrurbed by such prudish remarks of mine, there is reverse offence.I'd rather drop it.jillipep <jillipep@...> wrote: Which is more disturbing to you: reading a description, such as Kajira's, or seeing two actors approximating what she was writing about? For me, seeing visuals feels unprotected somehow even if it is only acting. With the written word, there is enough space for me to keep my own boundary. Even as quickly as I'm able to translate from language to symbol in my mind, it still

provides protection from the psychic violence that I get from certain images. Some may laugh, but there is a certain scene in Pulp Fiction that would not leave my mind for about a week. Doesn't matter if I tell myself it's just acting, somehow it still hurts. JillNew Songhttp://www.aspergershosting.com/audio/Onwah.wma

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[Guest guest]

Jill, I know just what you mean.

Visual images make a *very* strong impression on me too. After watching a

lot of TV, I wish I could give my brain a shower. (I think dreaming may be a

way of ridding our brain from some of the garbage we have subjected it to

during the day?)

Some, however have such visual minds that reading about something is quite

enough to conjure up very vivid images. Several members here got sick just

reading the pre-industrial etiquette rules I posted.

(I'll try to keep that in mind from now on.)

Inger

Re: Adult Forum Needed for Adult Topics

Which is more disturbing to you: reading a description, such as

Kajira's, or seeing two actors approximating what she was writing about?

For me, seeing visuals feels unprotected somehow even if it is only

acting. With the written word, there is enough space for me to keep my

own boundary. Even as quickly as I'm able to translate from language to

symbol in my mind, it still provides protection from the psychic

violence that I get from certain images. Some may laugh, but

there is a certain scene in Pulp Fiction that would not leave my mind

for about a week. Doesn't matter if I tell myself it's just acting,

somehow it still hurts.

Jill

>

> I don't watch T.V, also as for reality, T.V is acting, I saw a movie

> the other week I wanted to leave. I talked about that which likely

> initiated the conversation concerning that.

>

> I don't like blood, but I like strategy.

>

>

>

>

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Check the Links section for more FAM forums.

[Guest guest]

Sorry, , I'm just as interested in your answer if it has

nothing to do with sex. I fully respect your boundaries and do not

consider you prudish. We all have our own limits.

Is it okay for me to ask my question in a different way, without any

sexual references? What I was after was how you feel about what you

find disturbing, if it is more disturbing when it is described in

words or if you see it on television? Or is it easier for you to say

to yourself that it's just acting? Really, I'm just curious. If

anyone else is willing to answer this, please do.

What you say about yourself at 2 and not liking the aliens on tv is

how I feel about myself and visual imagery today. I feel as though

there is still a childlike part of myself that needs to be protected

from visual violence, a part of myself that never learned to speak

and cannot be told that what it is seeing is not reality.

Jill

>

> When I was around 2, I recall seeing on the T.V a program with

aliens in it, I never liked the aliens and it sort of was scary at

that age. Sort of reminds me of WrongPlanet and the alien theme.

>

> At this point it is more of an embarrassment,

sociopsychopathologically the sexual reality if distrurbed by such

prudish remarks of mine, there is reverse offence.

>

> I'd rather drop it.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ewwwwwww, indeed! Now THAT was hardcore! I'd still rather read

your list than see it acted out on tv... ;-)

Jill

>

> Jill, I know just what you mean.

>

> Visual images make a *very* strong impression on me too. After

watching a

> lot of TV, I wish I could give my brain a shower. (I think dreaming

may be a

> way of ridding our brain from some of the garbage we have subjected

it to

> during the day?)

>

> Some, however have such visual minds that reading about something

is quite

> enough to conjure up very vivid images. Several members here got

sick just

> reading the pre-industrial etiquette rules I posted.

>

> (I'll try to keep that in mind from now on.)

>

> Inger

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Archetypes,The problem is at the moment I am getting ready to goto the grocery store. Someone takes me and am being ruched to get ready. I will remember or try to remember when getting back..There is another one concerning the reality of the devel and or satan.No this is not much about inner child concept as a sub-C protective and or regressive psychical concept.Was merely trying to converse in some similarity to your expereinces with what you said. Does not always work for conversation.I am being ruched to go otherwise no groceries.Will be backjillipep <jillipep@...> wrote: Sorry, , I'm just as interested in your answer if it has nothing to do with sex. I fully respect your boundaries and do not consider you prudish. We all have our own limits.

Is it okay for me to ask my question in a different way, without any sexual references? What I was after was how you feel about what you find disturbing, if it is more disturbing when it is described in words or if you see it on television? Or is it easier for you to say to yourself that it's just acting? Really, I'm just curious. If anyone else is willing to answer this, please do. What you say about yourself at 2 and not liking the aliens on tv is how I feel about myself and visual imagery today. I feel as though there is still a childlike part of myself that needs to be protected from visual violence, a part of myself that never learned to speak and cannot be told that what it is seeing is not reality. JillNew Songhttp://www.aspergershosting.com/audio/Onwah.wma

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[Guest guest]

,

I did not find your spontaneous "prudishness" offensive, since I know it comes only from purity of spirit, not from judgementalism. I can tell the difference. :-)

But thanks for your concern, anyway, and for pulling the breaks. Sometimes that can be necessary when Aspies get too far into our favorite peeves and current or former special interests.

Inger

Re: Re: Adult Forum Needed for Adult Topics

When I was around 2, I recall seeing on the T.V a program with aliens in it, I never liked the aliens and it sort of was scary at that age. Sort of reminds me of WrongPlanet and the alien theme.At this point it is more of an embarrassment, sociopsychopathologically the sexual reality if distrurbed by such prudish remarks of mine, there is reverse offence.I'd rather drop it.

[Guest guest]

LOL! So you didn't appreciate it either?

Oh well... you can please *some* of the people *some* of the time... ;-)

I thought it was rather funny myself, and almost fell on the floor laughing

the first time I read it. :-D

Inger

Re: Adult Forum Needed for Adult Topics

Ewwwwwww, indeed! Now THAT was hardcore! I'd still rather read

your list than see it acted out on tv... ;-)

Jill

>

> Jill, I know just what you mean.

>

> Visual images make a *very* strong impression on me too. After

watching a

> lot of TV, I wish I could give my brain a shower. (I think dreaming

may be a

> way of ridding our brain from some of the garbage we have subjected

it to

> during the day?)

>

> Some, however have such visual minds that reading about something

is quite

> enough to conjure up very vivid images. Several members here got

sick just

> reading the pre-industrial etiquette rules I posted.

>

> (I'll try to keep that in mind from now on.)

>

> Inger

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL! So you didn't appreciate it either?

Oh well... you can please *some* of the people *some* of the time... ;-)

I thought it was rather funny myself, and almost fell on the floor laughing

the first time I read it. :-D

Inger

Re: Adult Forum Needed for Adult Topics

Ewwwwwww, indeed! Now THAT was hardcore! I'd still rather read

your list than see it acted out on tv... ;-)

Jill

>

> Jill, I know just what you mean.

>

> Visual images make a *very* strong impression on me too. After

watching a

> lot of TV, I wish I could give my brain a shower. (I think dreaming

may be a

> way of ridding our brain from some of the garbage we have subjected

it to

> during the day?)

>

> Some, however have such visual minds that reading about something

is quite

> enough to conjure up very vivid images. Several members here got

sick just

> reading the pre-industrial etiquette rules I posted.

>

> (I'll try to keep that in mind from now on.)

>

> Inger

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wait, wait, I didn't say it wasn't funny! Besides, I was glad you

posted it, just for the historical perspective.But I was glad it wasn't

time for dinner when I read it, just the same...

Jill

>

> LOL! So you didn't appreciate it either?

>

> Oh well... you can please *some* of the people *some* of the

time... ;-)

>

> I thought it was rather funny myself, and almost fell on the floor

laughing

> the first time I read it. :-D

>

> Inger

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hehe, I bet you were even gladder that you weren't INVITED to dinner, back

in the 18th century! ;-)

Inger

Re: Adult Forum Needed for Adult Topics

Wait, wait, I didn't say it wasn't funny! Besides, I was glad you

posted it, just for the historical perspective.But I was glad it wasn't

time for dinner when I read it, just the same...

Jill

>

> LOL! So you didn't appreciate it either?

>

> Oh well... you can please *some* of the people *some* of the

time... ;-)

>

> I thought it was rather funny myself, and almost fell on the floor

laughing

> the first time I read it. :-D

>

> Inger

>

>

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Check the Links section for more FAM forums.

[Guest guest]

*GRIN* - Jill

> >

> > LOL! So you didn't appreciate it either?

> >

> > Oh well... you can please *some* of the people *some* of the

> time... ;-)

> >

> > I thought it was rather funny myself, and almost fell on the floor

> laughing

> > the first time I read it. :-D

> >

> > Inger

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and

> acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Check the Links section for more FAM forums.

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, . You're right, it takes a great deal of work to

communicate precisely about these concepts. For example, my use of

childlike in my description was not meant to refer to the inner child

concept, it is simply my description. But I'm looking forward to

reading whatever you have to say. Anyway, I'm happy as long as I

haven't caused offense.

Jill

>

> Archetypes,

>

> The problem is at the moment I am getting ready to goto the grocery

store. Someone takes me and am being ruched to get ready. I will

remember or try to remember when getting back..

>

> There is another one concerning the reality of the devel and or

satan.

>

> No this is not much about inner child concept as a sub-C protective

and or regressive psychical concept.

>

> Was merely trying to converse in some similarity to your

expereinces with what you said. Does not always work for conversation.

>

> I am being ruched to go otherwise no groceries.

>

> Will be back

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was not disturbed personally by the subject like for instance seeing

blood and guts on the T.V. Well war movies are like that and there is

war in reality.

I never got to read the topic, its not that I am not understanding,

its that intelectually there is a response and there are questions

concerning bounderies and what not. I do not see the relevency.

IT all seems like jung psychology, archetypical symbology. I seldom

have an interests in the T.V, its just I did not expect such a thing

on this forum as out of several others it is the most respectable, not

to put the others down of course. Nor to make the others feel jelious

of morals and values of a higher class.

----

I am not sure of what you are saying, I do and do not understand.

There are aspects of yourself which are of mind, that reflect a

childhood mind of the past?

I like fart jokes, even a woopie cushion and what not. So that to me

is childish and entertaining.

Back to the original purpose and cuase of this post, as I didnt have

time to read it with my parents wanting to take me to the grocery

store. There is a approperate place to speak of such things, while

attending a private school instead of a pulbic school there was a

difference between the two. The public school such perversions in

discussions happened all the time, wheras the christian school there

was not.

This reflects a social atmosphere, it's like cursing without being mad.

Other then that if there are intelectual aspects to this conversation,

lets start a new topic and try to break them down.

[Guest guest]

No I am not offended... I was just suprised is all, I dont read all

the topics... I read that one (laugh Snort)

>

> Okay, . You're right, it takes a great deal of work to

> communicate precisely about these concepts. For example, my use of

> childlike in my description was not meant to refer to the inner child

> concept, it is simply my description. But I'm looking forward to

> reading whatever you have to say. Anyway, I'm happy as long as I

> haven't caused offense.

>

> Jill

[Guest guest]

" I can appreciate what you're getting at, , but at

the same time, doesn't it depend on how it is discussed? If I'm not

mistaken, isn't there a family forum available? Very considerate of

you to think of it, however. "

While there is indeed a Family Forum available, Jill, people like

Toni's twins -- who are 17 -- read the posts in Society. At 17, they

are not parents of Asplings and therefore, may not benefit from the

sorts of discussions that are apt to be found in the Family Forum.

They could, however, benefit greatly from of the topics that are

discussed in Society ... with some exceptions such as the BDSM

discussion.

Raven

Co-Administrator of the FAM Family Forum

[Guest guest]

What's low class is when someone posts to the board revealing their

entire sexual repotoire under the guise of scientific relevency when

in reality, all they are trying to do is find out if others get their

rocks off in the same way.

is innocent. He can see through this thin veneer.

He also knows what the psychological profession says: BDSM is

sexually deviant behavior. So why do we have to have a huge

discussion about it?

From the American Medical Association's Home Medical Encyclopedia,

Volume One: A-H Editor: B. Clayman, MD. Copyright 1989 by

Dorling Kindersley Limited and the American Medical Association,

Random House, New York p.348:

" Deviation, Sexual. A form of behavior in which intercourse between

adults is not the final aim. Instead, the man (deviation is rare in

women) achieves erection and orgasm in other ways, such as by being

whipped or wearing women's clothes. Forms of sexual deviation include

exhibitionism, transvestitism, fetishism, frottage, necrophilia,

pedophilia, sadism, and masochism. "

We don't need for either Inger or Kajira to hop on board and start

comparing notes or going into details about what they do in their

private lives. All we need to know is that it is " Deviation, Sexual. "

Inger's post answering 's inquiry was acceptable. Kajira

posting her details was not. No one asked for her opinion, and all

she wanted to do was find out what others liked.

The dicussion about all this ends NOW, or I will start deleting any

new posts the next time I come online if I see them.

If members disobey, they may be placed on moderation.

Let's set aside the topic of sex for an area of discussion for a

while.

Tom

Administrator

>

Nor to make the others feel jelious of morals and values of a higher

class.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> While there is indeed a Family Forum available, Jill, people like

> Toni's twins -- who are 17 -- read the posts in Society. At 17, they

> are not parents of Asplings and therefore, may not benefit from the

> sorts of discussions that are apt to be found in the Family Forum.

>

I'm not a parent, but because of my traumatic school history it was

found, from very early in my aspie scene belonging, that I benefit

from attending, and contribute well to, a parent-focussed local group

in Dunfermline. It keeps me in touch with what's going on at

school-age level in Scotland, and keeps the parents in touch with how

these troubles with illogical teachers felt to an aspie child now free

to speak as an adult.

[Guest guest]

I think there is a place for such discussions sometimes - but I

suppose it is how they are conducted.

Some aspies are rather naive and clueless when it comes to such, not

knowing what is appropriate or not, I know I have made that mistake

in the past.

Yes it is also hard to know where the boundaries lie.

Sometimes discussing such can make one realise that something is not

okay - can help one realise if they are being taken advantage of and

stuff; but what I mean about how it is conducted - this is not a porn

site and if people want to discuss it in that kind of way then no

doubt there are plenty of sites out there - it is however good to be

aware of the dangers of what is out there of course.

>

> I was not disturbed personally by the subject like for instance

seeing

> blood and guts on the T.V. Well war movies are like that and there

is

> war in reality.

>

> I never got to read the topic, its not that I am not understanding,

> its that intelectually there is a response and there are questions

> concerning bounderies and what not. I do not see the relevency.

>

> IT all seems like jung psychology, archetypical symbology. I seldom

> have an interests in the T.V, its just I did not expect such a thing

> on this forum as out of several others it is the most respectable,

not

> to put the others down of course. Nor to make the others feel

jelious

> of morals and values of a higher class.

>

> ----

>

> I am not sure of what you are saying, I do and do not understand.

> There are aspects of yourself which are of mind, that reflect a

> childhood mind of the past?

>

> I like fart jokes, even a woopie cushion and what not. So that to me

> is childish and entertaining.

>

> Back to the original purpose and cuase of this post, as I didnt have

> time to read it with my parents wanting to take me to the grocery

> store. There is a approperate place to speak of such things, while

> attending a private school instead of a pulbic school there was a

> difference between the two. The public school such perversions in

> discussions happened all the time, wheras the christian school there

> was not.

>

> This reflects a social atmosphere, it's like cursing without being

mad.

>

> Other then that if there are intelectual aspects to this

conversation,

> lets start a new topic and try to break them down.

>