Re: Doctors and Lawyers and waiting, oh, my...

December 1, 2006

Faith in a God that loves us all, That he does,i think sickness is a way that allows us to draw closer to god.without it some may never find him.,i will continue to pray for you. Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: Oh honey!! I hope

and pray that it is something that is benign. BE PUSHY!!!!! Now is not the time to be pussy footing around with this. Anything I can do to help let me know. Also call the HMO corparate offices and tell them just what you wrote here, about the GI Doctor and his not returning phone calls. And it wouldn't hurt to say to them do I have to hire a lawyer to resolve this action. Honey they might thing they have the world by its balls but I got news for them. (Cuse my french but heck fire sometimes you just have to say what you think.) Lots of love and comforting hugs. Janet Sheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: I appreciate your below post, . I hope everyone is doing as well as can be. I've been caught up this week in a dilemma. Seems my Cat Scan showed a (small) mass in my liver that "appears to be hepatoma".. cancer of the liver. My GI has never bothered to call me to tell me, nor has he returned my phone calls. I have also been unable to make an appointment with him. I picked up my report myself and took it in to see my Primary Doc this week. Even he had no luck with pushing for an appointment with the GI, I believe that office has written me off entirely. Having an HMO, my Primary Doc has done all that he can, it's the GI doc that MUST shedule a liver biopsy to confirm findings. There is one other GI in the medical group, but I would have to wait at least 8 weeks to see him, and start all over at square one.. I will give them until Wednesday, that will be 2 weeks that they've had the report in their office, then I go to shove to get it done.. I hate to rock the boat with the only GI I have to work with, but it's either rock it, or sink.. How sad the things we have to go through.. I don't know what I'd do without you all. Thank you again..and nope, I'm not on treatment yet, just thankfully good Supplements and my Faith in a God that loves us all, or I suspect I'd be in even deeper doo.. Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: -I certainly sympathize with your point of view, and agree that weshould all be positive and focus on what is important. However, amember of this group was very much interested in discussing the legalremedies that may be available to him, and perhaps he needs toexercise his legal rights in order to obtain the resources fortreatment. Our member may be experiencing stress from dealing withtrying to figure out how to not only pay his doctor bills, but justhave enough money to live on if he is

disabled. Since stress is nevera positive thing for us to deal with, anything that we can do toalleviate stress, either by providing information, suggestions abouthow to get through tx, or just "be there" is helpful to members.Some of us can't use this forum yet to talk about our experiences withtx because if insurance or other issues preventing us from paying fortx! I myself would LOVE to talking about how my tx is going, but dueto insurance issues, I won't be able to start till the spring. I amluckier than many, who don't have any insurance and have no hope ofgetting any.This group is for people suffering from hep c and their families andfriends, NOT just for people on tx!-- In Hepatitis C , Denisa Dodd<denisa_dodd@...> wrote:>> I just had to put my 2cents in. I am not meaning to be rude or

outof line. But for real folks, I really think that the focus should beon treating the HCV. If you spend all your time trying to figure outhow you got it, or who gave it to you I think its a waste of time andenergy. Stop playing the name game and get on with it, finding out howyou got it sure ain't gonna make it go away. The exception is theprison worker thing... That is a little freaky. But how on earth canwe really know for sure how we all got here... The doc's can't evengive you an idea other than speculation. More power to you all, butpersonally I had to put the hows and whys away and focus on tx. I meanno disrespect, just one heppers opinon.> good luck to all> d> > <marvindamartian05@...> wrote:> Thanks, but not an attorney...just a paralegal that's beenat it a > long time...I am actually a compliance officer for a mortgage bank, > so my main practice is real

estate and banking law. I have seen lots > of litigation though. Lots of people think it is easy to just sue > others and make "money for nothing" and it ain't the truth! In the > case of Hep C, AIDs or other diseases that people "catch" from > others, I think that oftentimes people manifest the anger stage of > their diagnosis by wanting to get revenge on the person who infected > them. > > In Bruce's case, it sounds like he may actually HAVE a viable case, > if it can be proved that his employer KNEW that there was a danger > and they failed to protect him. All healthcare professionals know > there is an inherent danger of contracting diseases in the course of > performing their work duties, and thus they are trained in proper > protocol and given the tools and devices to protect themselves. I > don't know what the protocol is at prisons.> > There is a guy in

Sheena and my support group that contracted hep c > in prison, and it seems to be rampant there. I would think that by > now there would be protocols in place for correctional workers, but > maybe not back when Bruce was exposed.> > > > > > I am quit certain I got HCV from my ex-husband. My new > > > husband does > > > > not want me to tell my ex about the HCV because he is worried > > that > > > I > > > > could be sued by him? That he could make me pay for his medical > > > bills. > > > > I have never heard of anything like this. My ex is a real jerk, > > > > though, and if he could get any money from me, believe me he >

> would > > > > try. At the same time, I feel obligated to tell him... or > should > > I > > > > even care? I guess I would want to be told... My current > husband > > is > > > > very paranoid about me saying anything, though.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > > > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.> > > >> > >

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December 1, 2006

Sheena, God is with you as well as this group. Hang in there. You can also call the AMA, which I did when I had a couple of docs with Community Health who should not have been in practice. No doc wants a letter from them and that's what they get. A threat to do this can get great results quickly. SharonDenisa Dodd <denisa_dodd@...> wrote: Sheena, All my hopes and prayers that you get nothing but good news. It sucks beyond words to have something else thrown at you. And when your docs are being buttheads it feels like your beating against the brick wall. Let us know when you get answers, like Janet said get pushy, if you don't have one yet try to find your inner "B##*H" that will help you to feel stronger. Sound off to me if you want to get it off your chest, thats why

we are all here dJanet <doc_jade@...> wrote: Oh honey!! I hope and pray that it is something that is benign. BE PUSHY!!!!! Now is not the time to be pussy footing around with this. Anything I can do to help let me know. Also call the HMO corparate offices and tell them just what you wrote here, about the GI Doctor and his not returning phone calls. And it wouldn't hurt to say to them do I have to hire a lawyer to resolve this action. Honey they might thing they have the world by its balls but I got news for them. (Cuse my french but heck fire sometimes you just have to say what you

think.) Lots of love and comforting hugs. Janet Sheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: I appreciate your below post, . I hope everyone is doing as well as can be. I've been caught up this week in a dilemma. Seems my Cat Scan showed a (small) mass in my liver that "appears to be

hepatoma".. cancer of the liver. My GI has never bothered to call me to tell me, nor has he returned my phone calls. I have also been unable to make an appointment with him. I picked up my report myself and took it in to see my Primary Doc this week. Even he had no luck with pushing for an appointment with the GI, I believe that office has written me off entirely. Having an HMO, my Primary Doc has done all that he can, it's the GI doc that MUST shedule a liver biopsy to confirm findings. There is one other GI in the medical group, but I would have to wait at least 8 weeks to see him, and start all over at square one.. I will give them until Wednesday, that will be 2 weeks that they've had the report in their office, then I go to shove to get it done.. I hate to rock the boat with the only GI I have to work with, but it's either rock it, or sink.. How sad the things we have to go through.. I don't know what I'd do without you all. Thank you again..and nope, I'm not on treatment

yet, just thankfully good Supplements and my Faith in a God that loves us all, or I suspect I'd be in even deeper doo.. Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: -I certainly sympathize with your point of view, and agree that weshould all be positive and focus on what is important. However, amember of this group was very much interested

in discussing the legalremedies that may be available to him, and perhaps he needs toexercise his legal rights in order to obtain the resources fortreatment. Our member may be experiencing stress from dealing withtrying to figure out how to not only pay his doctor bills, but justhave enough money to live on if he is disabled. Since stress is nevera positive thing for us to deal with, anything that we can do toalleviate stress, either by providing information, suggestions abouthow to get through tx, or just "be there" is helpful to members.Some of us can't use this forum yet to talk about our experiences withtx because if insurance or other issues preventing us from paying fortx! I myself would LOVE to talking about how my tx is going, but dueto insurance issues, I won't be able to start till the spring. I amluckier than many, who don't have any insurance and have no hope ofgetting any.This group is for

people suffering from hep c and their families andfriends, NOT just for people on tx!-- In Hepatitis C , Denisa Dodd<denisa_dodd@...> wrote:>> I just had to put my 2cents in. I am not meaning to be rude or outof line. But for real folks, I really think that the focus should beon treating the HCV. If you spend all your time trying to figure outhow you got it, or who gave it to you I think its a waste of time andenergy. Stop playing the name game and get on with it, finding out howyou got it sure ain't gonna make it go away. The exception is theprison worker thing... That is a little freaky. But how on earth canwe really know for sure how we all got here... The doc's can't evengive you an idea other than speculation. More power to you all, butpersonally I had to put the hows and whys away and focus on tx. I

meanno disrespect, just one heppers opinon.> good luck to all> d> > <marvindamartian05@...> wrote:> Thanks, but not an attorney...just a paralegal that's beenat it a > long time...I am actually a compliance officer for a mortgage bank, > so my main practice is real estate and banking law. I have seen lots > of litigation though. Lots of people think it is easy to just sue > others and make "money for nothing" and it ain't the truth! In the > case of Hep C, AIDs or other diseases that people "catch" from > others, I think that oftentimes people manifest the anger stage of > their diagnosis by wanting to get revenge on the person who infected > them. > > In Bruce's case, it sounds like he may actually HAVE a viable case, > if it can be proved that his employer KNEW that there was a danger > and they failed to protect him. All

healthcare professionals know > there is an inherent danger of contracting diseases in the course of > performing their work duties, and thus they are trained in proper > protocol and given the tools and devices to protect themselves. I > don't know what the protocol is at prisons.> > There is a guy in Sheena and my support group that contracted hep c > in prison, and it seems to be rampant there. I would think that by > now there would be protocols in place for correctional workers, but > maybe not back when Bruce was exposed.> > > > > > I am quit certain I got HCV from my ex-husband. My new > > > husband does > >

> > not want me to tell my ex about the HCV because he is worried > > that > > > I > > > > could be sued by him? That he could make me pay for his medical > > > bills. > > > > I have never heard of anything like this. My ex is a real jerk, > > > > though, and if he could get any money from me, believe me he > > would > > > > try. At the same time, I feel obligated to tell him... or > should > > I > > > > even care? I guess I would want to be told... My current > husband > > is > > > > very paranoid about me saying anything, though.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > >

> > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > > > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > >

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December 1, 2006

Sheena honey,,, WHO said it appeared to be a cancer? Hepatoma just means a tumor or mass in the hepa or liver... Lots of heppers get what is called hemangioma's which are kind of like a tumor but is made of blood vessels and is most definately NOT CANCER.. If my memory serves me well, you havent had hep c for very long,, am I right about that? Most liver cancers come when one is end stage liver disease and has full cirrhosis and I dont remember you telling us you have cirrhosis,, is that right? I know you are scared, I'd be scared too,, but remember there are many tumors that are NOT cancer and this could be one of those. I have a cousin who had a non malignant liver tumor and does not even have hep c.. they resected her liver and cut it out and she is fine! My first inclination is that is a hemangioma... I would, as Janet said, get pushy,, I'd GO TO HIS OFFICE and REFUSE TO LEAVE UNTIL you see the doc with a copy of

this ultrasound in your hand... HE IS YOUR DOC and HE is guilty of 'abandonment' which is the WORST crime a doc can be found guilty of.. IF HE doesnt wish to take care of you as his patient, HE MUST refer you to another doc of equal or greater training as he has OR he is guilty of "ABANDONMENT".. a very very serious crime on his record... As I said, I WOULD take my copy of that and I'd be in HIS OFFICE the moment his office opened and I would NOT LEAVE until I SAW HIM and spoke to him about these results! And then I'd write a letter to the AMA ! Let us know what you find out honey,, and in the meantime,, remember that we are here for you and you are in our prayers... hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: I appreciate your below post, . I hope everyone is doing as well as can be. I've been caught up this week in a dilemma. Seems my Cat Scan showed a (small) mass in my liver that "appears to be hepatoma".. cancer of the liver. My GI has never bothered to call me to tell me, nor has he returned my phone calls. I have also been unable to make an appointment with him. I picked up my report myself and took it in to see my Primary Doc this week. Even he had no luck with pushing for an appointment with the GI, I believe that office has

written me off entirely. Having an HMO, my Primary Doc has done all that he can, it's the GI doc that MUST shedule a liver biopsy to confirm findings. There is one other GI in the medical group, but I would have to wait at least 8 weeks to see him, and start all over at square one.. I will give

them until Wednesday, that will be 2 weeks that they've had the report in their office, then I go to shove to get it done.. I hate to rock the boat with the only GI I have to work with, but it's either rock it, or sink.. How sad the things we have to go through.. I don't know what I'd do without you all. Thank you again..and nope, I'm not on treatment yet, just thankfully good Supplements and my Faith

in a God that loves us all, or I suspect I'd be in even deeper doo.. Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: -I certainly sympathize with your point of view, and agree that weshould all be positive and focus on what is important. However, amember of this group was very much interested in discussing the legalremedies that may be available to him, and perhaps he needs toexercise his

legal rights in order to obtain the resources fortreatment. Our member may be experiencing stress from dealing withtrying to figure out how to not only pay his doctor bills, but justhave enough money to live on if he is disabled. Since stress is nevera positive thing for us to deal with, anything that we can do toalleviate stress, either by providing information, suggestions abouthow to get through tx, or just "be there" is helpful to members.Some of us can't use this forum yet to talk about our experiences withtx because if insurance or other issues preventing us from paying fortx! I myself would LOVE to talking about how my tx is going, but dueto insurance issues, I won't be able to start till the spring. I amluckier than many, who don't have any insurance and have no hope ofgetting any.This group is for people suffering from hep c and their families andfriends, NOT just for people on tx!-- In Hepatitis C , Denisa Dodd<denisa_dodd@...> wrote:>> I just had to put my 2cents in. I am not meaning to be rude or outof line. But for real folks, I really think that the focus should beon treating the HCV. If you spend all your time trying to figure outhow you got it, or who gave it to you I think its a waste of time andenergy. Stop playing the name game and get on with it, finding out howyou got it sure ain't gonna make it go away. The exception is theprison worker thing... That is a little freaky. But how on earth canwe really know for sure how we all got here... The doc's can't evengive you an idea other than speculation. More power to you all, butpersonally I had to put the hows and whys away and focus on tx. I meanno disrespect, just one heppers opinon.> good luck to all> d> >

<marvindamartian05@...> wrote:> Thanks, but not an attorney...just a paralegal that's beenat it a > long time...I am actually a compliance officer for a mortgage bank, > so my main practice is real estate and banking law. I have seen lots > of litigation though. Lots of people think it is easy to just sue > others and make "money for nothing" and it ain't the truth! In the > case of Hep C, AIDs or other diseases that people "catch" from > others, I think that oftentimes people manifest the anger stage of > their diagnosis by wanting to get revenge on the person who infected > them. > > In Bruce's case, it sounds like he may actually HAVE a viable case, > if it can be proved that his employer KNEW that there was a danger > and they failed to protect him. All healthcare professionals know > there is an inherent danger of contracting diseases in the course of

> performing their work duties, and thus they are trained in proper > protocol and given the tools and devices to protect themselves. I > don't know what the protocol is at prisons.> > There is a guy in Sheena and my support group that contracted hep c > in prison, and it seems to be rampant there. I would think that by > now there would be protocols in place for correctional workers, but > maybe not back when Bruce was exposed.> > > > > > I am quit certain I got HCV from my ex-husband. My new > > > husband does > > > > not want me to tell my ex about the HCV because he is worried > > that >

> > I > > > > could be sued by him? That he could make me pay for his medical > > > bills. > > > > I have never heard of anything like this. My ex is a real jerk, > > > > though, and if he could get any money from me, believe me he > > would > > > > try. At the same time, I feel obligated to tell him... or > should > > I > > > > even care? I guess I would want to be told... My current > husband > > is > > > > very paranoid about me saying anything, though.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > > >

> > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Want to start your own business?

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December 2, 2006

Oh my God Sheena, I am so sorry to hear this! Is there something I can

do to help? Call me if you need me to do anything!!!!

-- In Hepatitis C , Sheena

<mom4possums2002@...> wrote:

>

> I appreciate your below post, .

> I hope everyone is doing as well as can be.

> I've been caught up this week in a dilemma.

> Seems my Cat Scan showed a (small) mass

> in my liver that " appears to be hepatoma " ..

> cancer of the liver.

> My GI has never bothered to call me to tell me,

> nor has he returned my phone calls.

> I have also been unable to make an appointment

> with him. I picked up my report myself and

> took it in to see my Primary Doc this week.

> Even he had no luck with pushing for an

> appointment with the GI, I believe that office

> has written me off entirely.

> Having an HMO, my Primary Doc has done all that

> he can, it's the GI doc that MUST shedule a

> liver biopsy to confirm findings.

> There is one other GI in the medical group,

> but I would have to wait at least 8 weeks

> to see him, and start all over at square one..

> I will give them until Wednesday, that will

> be 2 weeks that they've had the report in

> their office, then I go to shove to get

> it done.. I hate to rock the boat with the

> only GI I have to work with, but it's either

> rock it, or sink.. How sad the things we have

> to go through..

> I don't know what I'd do without you all.

> Thank you again..and nope, I'm not on treatment yet,

> just thankfully good Supplements and my Faith in

> a God that loves us all, or I suspect

> I'd be in even deeper doo..

>

> Sheena

>

> <marvindamartian05@...> wrote:

> -I certainly sympathize with your point of view, and agree

that we

> should all be positive and focus on what is important. However, a

> member of this group was very much interested in discussing the legal

> remedies that may be available to him, and perhaps he needs to

> exercise his legal rights in order to obtain the resources for

> treatment. Our member may be experiencing stress from dealing with

> trying to figure out how to not only pay his doctor bills, but just

> have enough money to live on if he is disabled. Since stress is never

> a positive thing for us to deal with, anything that we can do to

> alleviate stress, either by providing information, suggestions about

> how to get through tx, or just " be there " is helpful to members.

>

> Some of us can't use this forum yet to talk about our experiences with

> tx because if insurance or other issues preventing us from paying for

> tx! I myself would LOVE to talking about how my tx is going, but due

> to insurance issues, I won't be able to start till the spring. I am

> luckier than many, who don't have any insurance and have no hope of

> getting any.

>

> This group is for people suffering from hep c and their families and

> friends, NOT just for people on tx!

>

> -- In Hepatitis C , Denisa Dodd

> <denisa_dodd@> wrote:

> >

> > I just had to put my 2cents in. I am not meaning to be rude or out

> of line. But for real folks, I really think that the focus should be

> on treating the HCV. If you spend all your time trying to figure out

> how you got it, or who gave it to you I think its a waste of time and

> energy. Stop playing the name game and get on with it, finding out how

> you got it sure ain't gonna make it go away. The exception is the

> prison worker thing... That is a little freaky. But how on earth can

> we really know for sure how we all got here... The doc's can't even

> give you an idea other than speculation. More power to you all, but

> personally I had to put the hows and whys away and focus on tx. I mean

> no disrespect, just one heppers opinon.

> > good luck to all

> > d

> >

> > <marvindamartian05@> wrote:

> > Thanks, but not an attorney...just a paralegal that's been

> at it a

> > long time...I am actually a compliance officer for a mortgage bank,

> > so my main practice is real estate and banking law. I have seen lots

> > of litigation though. Lots of people think it is easy to just sue

> > others and make " money for nothing " and it ain't the truth! In the

> > case of Hep C, AIDs or other diseases that people " catch " from

> > others, I think that oftentimes people manifest the anger stage of

> > their diagnosis by wanting to get revenge on the person who infected

> > them.

> >

> > In Bruce's case, it sounds like he may actually HAVE a viable case,

> > if it can be proved that his employer KNEW that there was a danger

> > and they failed to protect him. All healthcare professionals know

> > there is an inherent danger of contracting diseases in the course of

> > performing their work duties, and thus they are trained in proper

> > protocol and given the tools and devices to protect themselves. I

> > don't know what the protocol is at prisons.

> >

> > There is a guy in Sheena and my support group that contracted hep c

> > in prison, and it seems to be rampant there. I would think that by

> > now there would be protocols in place for correctional workers, but

> > maybe not back when Bruce was exposed.

> >

> > > > > I am quit certain I got HCV from my ex-husband. My new

> > > > husband does

> > > > > not want me to tell my ex about the HCV because he is worried

> > > that

> > > > I

> > > > > could be sued by him? That he could make me pay for his medical

> > > > bills.

> > > > > I have never heard of anything like this. My ex is a real jerk,

> > > > > though, and if he could get any money from me, believe me he

> > > would

> > > > > try. At the same time, I feel obligated to tell him... or

> > should

> > > I

> > > > > even care? I guess I would want to be told... My current

> > husband

> > > is

> > > > > very paranoid about me saying anything, though.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tim Parsons

> > > > >

> > > > > knoxville,tn 37931

> > > > >

> > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work

> > > > >

> > > > > www.knoxville1.com

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Tim Parsons

> > >

> > > knoxville,tn 37931

> > >

> > > 865-588-2465 x107 work

> > >

> > > www.knoxville1.com

> > >

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