Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Dear Donna, No, dedifferentiation is when cells forget what they are supposed to do and look like and start making copies of themselves indiscriminately. Cancer cells are dedifferentiated. I have never heard of colloidal silver reversing this devastating retrogression. Have you got any info on it? Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman Re: Digest Number 2678 Prostate cancer > I understand that colloidal silver does the same thing. It is called > dedifferintiation. > > Blessings > Donna > http://www.excellentthings.com > > noelw@... wrote: > > > Ip6 converts cancer cells to normal cells, and transfer factor plus > >Enhances cancer killer cells=== Search on google fdor both. > > > >Noel > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Dr. Saul - Please read on for some of Dr. Becker's research and the info you asked for. I highly recommend reading the entire article at the URL below. Hope this helps. :-) Jodi " Saul Pressman " <saul@...> wrote: > Subject: Re: Dedifferentiation > > Dear Donna, > > No, dedifferentiation is when cells forget what they are supposed to > do and look like and start making copies of themselves > indiscriminately. Cancer cells are dedifferentiated. > > I have never heard of colloidal silver reversing this devastating > retrogression. Have you got any info on it? > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > Re: Digest Number 2678 Prostate cancer > >> I understand that colloidal silver does the same thing. It is >> called dedifferintiation. >> >> Blessings >> Donna >> http://www.excellentthings.com >> >> noelw@... wrote: >> >> > Ip6 converts cancer cells to normal cells, and transfer factor >> > plus Enhances cancer killer cells=== Search on google fdor both. >> > >> >Noel >> > http://www.alpha-stim.com/Information/Products/Educational/CES_Excerpt/Chapter_9\ /chapter_9.html (snip) Current conventional concepts about cancer assume that cancer cells can never dedifferentiate and revert to normal cells. Such thinking holds that once a cancer cell, always a cancer cell, so therefore the only thing to do is to try to remove it with surgery or to kill it by radiation or chemotherapy. Becker’s research, on the other hand, points to a different understanding; possibly a cancer cell is stuck in a state of incomplete dedifferentiation. It has already dedifferentiated back far enough to pick up the ability of the primitive cell to proliferate rapidly. It has not gone far enough to become a normal primitive cell, which by nature will specialize or differentiate into a cell of whatever organ it is part of. Recent discoveries suggest that a cell may become cancerous because of a genetic alteration (the wrong genetic sequence being expressed) caused by - whatever. Dedifferentiation unravels the cell’s malignant genetic program, permitting it to be reprogrammed as a normal cell. Becker believes that cancer cells would revert to normal if they could be fully dedifferentiated. The possible link between regeneration and cancer occurred to a young researcher at the National Cancer Institute (NCI). One month after he submitted his proposal to his superiors with a request for funding, he was forced out of NCI. In the 19th century, it was known that silver had antibacterial qualities; it is said that the early pioneers would put a silver dollar in a quart of milk to keep it from going sour while crossing the prairies. The knowledge of silver’s value goes back even further. In the Middle Ages, doctors would advise putting a silver spoon in a child’s mouth to protect against the plague. Since only the rich had silver spoons, this may have been the origin of the saying “born with a silver spoon in the mouthâ€. Dr. Becker rediscovered silver. By this time, he knew that he could turn on growth with negative current or turn it off with positive current. If he applied negative current, he could stimulate growth of a bone, but would it also stimulate growth of bacteria? In preliminary lab tests, he had seen that silver electrodes, “when made electrically positive, would kill all types of bacteria, apparently because of positive silver ions driven into the culture by the applied voltage. This was an exciting discovery, because no single antibiotic worked against all types of bacteria.†And this was accomplished with voltages harmless to human cells. A big problem with his silver electrodes, however, was that their effects were too local, extending only 1 inch from the electrode. Needing something larger, like a screen made of silver, Dr. Becker stumbled onto a nylon cloth impregnated with silver ions. Since silver is highly conductive, direct current could be delivered all over the cloth. Becker soon had a challenging case for trying the silver nylon cloth. His patient, , had suffered a badly broken leg in a snowmobile accident. The bone had become infected - osteomyelitis, an even worse nightmare for an orthopedic surgeon than a non-union fracture, and that was present too. A cavity in ’s leg was infected by five different kinds of bacteria. Becker explained to his plan to use the silver nylon first with positive current to control the bacteria and later to use the negative current to try to heal the bone. Cleaning out the wound during the operation, Becker packed a large piece of silver nylon into the excavation, which ran almost from ’s knee to his ankle. He then connected a battery to the silver nylon, which thus served as an electrode adapted to the shape of the wound. By the end of two weeks, all five kinds of bacteria had disappeared. The first problem was solved, and this represented the conquest of osteomyelitis. Taking an X-ray, Becker found that there had been some bone growth - all the pieces were stuck together. He kept using the positive electrodes and at the end of one month found that the non-union fracture was practically healed and by two months, the patient was walking on the leg. How could this be? The current used was positive and should have killed the bacteria but not have helped with the healing. The mystery was soon solved. During one of his osteomyelitis treatments with silver nylon, while checking a culture of material from a patient’s wound, Becker found something completely unexpected and serendipitous. It could never have been predicted, and it reopened his old dream of human regeneration. Faced with the fact that he couldn’t regenerate without cells that could be dedifferentiated, which were hard to come by in humans, Becker had sadly concluded that human regeneration was impossible. Now, inspecting the culture, he found dedifferentiated, primitive, human cells. Quickly jumping on this lead, he combined the electrically-generated silver ions he had used in the wound with fibroblasts, a common human cell type found throughout the body. Incredulously, he saw that he soon had a petri dish full of dedifferentiated cells. Until then, it was accepted that once cells differentiate, or specialize, that was the end of the line and there was no way back to square one. But Becker had found a way to dedifferentiate human cells, which even he had thought to be impossible. This could mean the elimination of the main obstacle to regeneration in humans, the lack of cells which could be dedifferentiated. Furthermore, Becker realized that the silver electrode technique could be used to dedifferentiate large quantities of a patient’s cells to their primitive state to be stored for use in an emergency when tissue healing is necessary, such as after an operation. It is for just such a purpose that companies have been set up to store stem (primitive) cells from the umbilical cords of newborn children. On June 1, 2000, National Public Radio announced some interesting research on stem cells and pointed out that if only we knew how to produce stem cells in mass, it would revolutionize medicine. But we do know how to do this, for a dedifferentiated cell can do anything a stem cell can do. Dr. Bob Becker published the above research in the late 1970’s, but nobody paid any attention. It’s time somebody did, because the NPR announcer was right; it would indeed revolutionize medicine. Dr. Becker patented his silver electrode technique, pointing out in the patent that silver is not toxic or harmful to tissues, is not cytotoxic, not carcinogenic, not mutagenic (doesn’t change genes), but is a destroyer of bacteria and fungi, and is a dedifferentiating agent. In this process, Becker explains that the work is done by silver ions which bind right at the site being treated. They do not get into the bloodstream, and therefore cannot cause argyria, a graying of the skin which occasionally has happened to people taking a lot of colloidal silver. He also found an application to cancer. When he used a positive charge delivered through silver electrodes to cancer cells in his lab, cell division (mitosis) stopped completely. While growing tissue is negatively charged, cancer is the most negative of all. This was not the result of the positive current but of the silver ions being released from the electrodes. If the electrodes used are made of any material other than silver, the electric voltage and current will cause cancer cells to increase their rate of mitosis, or growth. -- Jodi Waldman Menard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Hi Saul. I believe it was posted on the cs list. I will ask around and see where the source was. Blessings Donna Saul Pressman wrote: >Dear Donna, > >No, dedifferentiation is when cells forget what they are supposed to do and >look like and start making copies of themselves indiscriminately. Cancer >cells are dedifferentiated. > >I have never heard of colloidal silver reversing this devastating >retrogression. Have you got any info on it? > >Best of Health! >Dr. Saul Pressman > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Hi Saul: Recently, I've been experimenting with ozone, so I was wandering through the archives and came across this " old " thread. Regarding silver's capacity to dedifferentiate: This does not occur with silver solutions or silver colloids. I have access to a private tissue study conducted by an FDA-certified lab that demonstrates that oligodynamic silver kills cancer cells. Regarding Dr. Becker's work with silver and regeneration: Dr. Bart Flick, manufacturer and creator of FDA approved Silveron Wound Dressings, disputes Dr. Becker's findings that cells are actually reverted. Dr. Flick has noted morphogenic changes, however. The dispute has to do only with differing observations related likely to different methodologies. Dr. Flick has not observed dedifferntiation, and Dr. Becker has. I believe the difference in observations may have to do with the amount of current utilized to deliver silver ions. Dr. Becker was adamant that only extremely minute amounts of current should be utilized to deliver silver ions in the body. The difference between colloidal silver's action and Dr. Becker's studies? The minute electrical current used to deliver the silver ions into the cells. Before Dr. Becker's funding was pulled, he was on the brink of true organ regeneration in humans. Concerning the treatment of cancer in humans with colloidal silver: The big problem is delivering enough silver in the proper form to the site. The silver ions must come in direct contact with the cancer cells. Concerning using iontophoresis with silver as the drug, the big problem without a surgical method is the current travel. If too much current is utilized, cancer cell growth is stimulated by as much as 300%. Too little current of course prevents the silver ions from reaching the target. To complicate matters, current travel through the body is not uniform. Damaged tissues, including cancerous tissue, offers less resistance to electricity, and thus the current flows through damaged tissue ( too much current results in easy burning ) far more readily than healthy tissues. Best Regards, www.eytonsearth.org www.silvermedicine.org > Dear Donna, > > No, dedifferentiation is when cells forget what they are supposed to do and > look like and start making copies of themselves indiscriminately. Cancer > cells are dedifferentiated. > > I have never heard of colloidal silver reversing this devastating > retrogression. Have you got any info on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Dear , There are several substances known to reactivate differentiation once it has been lost. The most useful of these is the B vitamin inositol. Dr. Shamsuddin of the University of land studied its effects for 12 years, and was able to show reactivated differentiation in cancer cells with a product he developed, that he called IP-6 (inositol phosphate-6). When IP-6 enters the body, it is rapidly broken down into IP-3 (inositol phosphate-3) which is the standard garden-variety of inositol. In other words, there is no need to take the expensive IP-6, when you can buy a truckload of cheap IP-3 inositol in brewer's yeast. And you avoid any possibility of stimulating the cancer, as seems to be a possibility with colloidal silver. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: " R. Eaton " <research@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Dedifferentiation Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:47:05 -0000 Hi Saul: Recently, I've been experimenting with ozone, so I was wandering through the archives and came across this " old " thread. Regarding silver's capacity to dedifferentiate: This does not occur with silver solutions or silver colloids. I have access to a private tissue study conducted by an FDA-certified lab that demonstrates that oligodynamic silver kills cancer cells. Regarding Dr. Becker's work with silver and regeneration: Dr. Bart Flick, manufacturer and creator of FDA approved Silveron Wound Dressings, disputes Dr. Becker's findings that cells are actually reverted. Dr. Flick has noted morphogenic changes, however. The dispute has to do only with differing observations related likely to different methodologies. Dr. Flick has not observed dedifferntiation, and Dr. Becker has. I believe the difference in observations may have to do with the amount of current utilized to deliver silver ions. Dr. Becker was adamant that only extremely minute amounts of current should be utilized to deliver silver ions in the body. The difference between colloidal silver's action and Dr. Becker's studies? The minute electrical current used to deliver the silver ions into the cells. Before Dr. Becker's funding was pulled, he was on the brink of true organ regeneration in humans. Concerning the treatment of cancer in humans with colloidal silver: The big problem is delivering enough silver in the proper form to the site. The silver ions must come in direct contact with the cancer cells. Concerning using iontophoresis with silver as the drug, the big problem without a surgical method is the current travel. If too much current is utilized, cancer cell growth is stimulated by as much as 300%. Too little current of course prevents the silver ions from reaching the target. To complicate matters, current travel through the body is not uniform. Damaged tissues, including cancerous tissue, offers less resistance to electricity, and thus the current flows through damaged tissue ( too much current results in easy burning ) far more readily than healthy tissues. Best Regards, www.eytonsearth.org www.silvermedicine.org > Dear Donna, > > No, dedifferentiation is when cells forget what they are supposed to do and > look like and start making copies of themselves indiscriminately. Cancer > cells are dedifferentiated. > > I have never heard of colloidal silver reversing this devastating > retrogression. Have you got any info on it? _________________________________________________________________ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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