Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Duncan/Inulin by NOW

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

> Okay. So, in other words, it is manufactured for food manufacturing,

> but is not being promoted for individual ingestion as a nutritional

> supplement, except by you?

>

> If that is true I am thinking, Good Job Duncan. smile.

That's right, Donna; for some reason the health food stores continue

to sell native inulin which is pretty good, but I'm the only one I

know of with sugar-free FOS free inulin at retail even though it's

clearly superior as a nutritional supplement.

>

> But I wonder also if there is long term research and any reason to be

> concerned about daily consumption. Also can you tell me if a short

> stint on you inulin makes a lasting impression on the body or do you

> need to keep on it indefinitely. Once it has balanced the bowel, if a

> person doesn't do anti biotics or other things that tend to cause

> dysbiosis can they safely assume that all is well?

>

> Thanks Duncan

Inasmuch as you're simply putting the missing inulin back into the

diet that was in staple foods consumed daily for many thousands of

years, you could say that long term research has been done. Remember

this is a water extract just like soup broth.

Bowel ecology was restored in 2 to 4 weeks depending on the research.

Right, once the bowel ecology is normal again it's pretty resilient;

all you need to do to keep it good is avoid the foods that caused it,

notably processed sugar and starch. And abx. Avoiding bad foods would

necessarily raise the inulin ratio in your intake.

regards,

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

<Bowel ecology was restored in 2 to 4 weeks depending on the research>

duncan, my experience has been that you are overlooking the largest piece of

this. you correctly stated in a previous post that what most people overlook

is the proper implantation of bacteria. i did this with primal diet. and to

a lesser extent by eliminating processed foods many years ago. the cleansing

process is very dramatic and constantly stirs up old bacteria, fungus and

impacted mucous. i highly doubt that the problem can be solved in 4 weeks.

talk to anyone on the primal diet who has been cleansing for 10+ years and

you will get a truer picture of what is going on.

i doubt that any packaged bacteria will hold water to live bacteria from

foods, especially raw animal products. check it out.

i think it is possible to reach a comfortable balance by restoring certain

bacteria and then not cleansing the bowel. this will result in little

discomfort, but not address underlying bowel toxicity.

also you didnt mention mercury which has a profound effect on bowel flora,

possibly more important than diet or bacterial supplementation. this has

been evidenced by people's whose candida has cleared immediately after

amalgam removal. andy cutler demonstrated that mercury inactivates

neutrophils which are responsible for keeping candida in check.

[Guest guest]

> <Bowel ecology was restored in 2 to 4 weeks depending on the research>

>

> duncan, my experience has been that you are overlooking the largest

> piece of this. you correctly stated in a previous post that what most

> people overlook is the proper implantation of bacteria.

Nope, Luck, I looked into that the part too, and research indicates

implantation of probiotics isn't necessary, as even after an

antibiotics program there are sufficient bacteria left of the right

type to work as a starter; all you have to do is feed them.

Nevertheless, other research is experimenting with synbiotics - a mix

of probiotics and prbiotics - presumably to effect results a bit

faster.

> i did this

> with primal diet. and to a lesser extent by eliminating processed

> foods many years ago. the cleansing process is very dramatic and

> constantly stirs up old bacteria, fungus and impacted mucous. i highly

> doubt that the problem can be solved in 4 weeks. talk to anyone on the

> primal diet who has been cleansing for 10+ years and you will get a

> truer picture of what is going on.

Well, the research has been speaking for itself. Four weeks. Check it

out. I don't doubt the efficacy of implantation, just the necessity,

and I for one prefer the reliability of studies of dozens or hundreds

of people in a controlled environment to individual uncontrolled

accounts. That being said I'm aware that some people and naturopaths

even do rectal introduction of synbiotics for fast results.

>

> i doubt that any packaged bacteria will hold water to live bacteria

> from foods, especially raw animal products. check it out.

>

I agree, but prebiotic administration has nothing to do with either

packaged or live purchased bacteria. Perhaps I'm missing your point.

>

> i think it is possible to reach a comfortable balance by restoring

> certain bacteria and then not cleansing the bowel. this will result in

> little discomfort, but not address underlying bowel toxicity.

Inulin is also a soluble fiber, so bowel toxicity is in fact being

addressed. I also recommend a fiber blend, but that was not part of

the thread.

>

> also you didnt mention mercury which has a profound effect on bowel

> flora, possibly more important than diet or bacterial supplementation.

> this has been evidenced by people's whose candida has cleared

> immediately after amalgam removal. andy cutler demonstrated that

> mercury inactivates neutrophils which are responsible for keeping

> candida in check.

I didn't mention a lot of toxin issues but that doesn't mean I'm not

aware of them. I'm not publishing an online book, just responding to

a specific concept. But since you mention it, I always recommend cold-

processed whey and selenium, which produces glutathione, one of the

body's natural defenses against heavy metal toxicity and oxidative

stress, which exacebates bowel disorders. If the organic mercury gets

loose the glutathione mops it up.

What neutophils work inside the bowel? None; Mr. Cutler is referring

to internal immune responses in this context. This was not part of my

response on bowel ecology.

regards,

Duncan Crow