Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Hi Carol. I am not an expert or a doctor, just sharing what I have read. Shulze says that cayenne taken internally will stop bleeding (even in something as severe as a gun shot wound. He also uses cayenne powder to pack wounds to help them heal and they heal without scarring or needing stitches. We are talking deep, to the bone wounds. I am thinking internal and external application. Keep in mind that Shulze recommend high dose. He is not timid about dosing. He would pack any external wounds with alot of cayene. And he would take copious amounts internally. It would increase circulation which increases wound healing. Another thing I would consider is homozon for internal healing and for flooding the body with ozone to help with systemic infection. All the things I mentioned in my post to earlier today could be of help. Magnetic pulsing is awesome. Also, probiotics kill staph an a multitude of other bacteria, so that is another option. Once again I would want to take ALOT. Natural things work, but you have to really be aggressive with it. Blessings Not a doctor Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 It may be a long story how they got to be there but it may be important as to how to heal it. I would do ozone cupping and maybe try to find someone with an electro acuscope and just treat often and long across the wound. Many other energetic healing units may work as well. But most of all I would take a long hard look at how it got to be so and eliminate that from the cause and the body should heal itself. Especially detoxing will probably help tremendously. Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI), San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 abdominal fistulas Dear group, I posted this also on Saul's website - ozonetherapy - but wanted to ask here also. Do you know of anyone who has experience with the healing of an abdominal wound with fistulas? The fistulas are going from an abdominal wound and are holes into the small intestine. It is a long story as to how they got there. This is not my health problem, but that of a family member. The abdominal wound is about 9 " X 3 " in a " daisy petal " shape down the center of the abdomen. The wound has 5 or 6 fistulas going into the small bowel, and the fistulas exit to the outside of the body in this wound. So the abdomen wound is somewhat covered by tissue, but the tissue has these holes into the small bowel. Any experience with this? Have you heard of any treatments that can heal this? Thanks, Carol OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Dear Ken & group, To help clarify: * The abdominal wound is there from surgery. It started as an abdominal incision. There was an infection due to a post-surgical complication in another part of the abdominal cavity, and then the abdominal incision was also infected. The incision is now the 9 " x 3 " abdominal wound. * The family member is not taking anything by mouth because of the intestinal fistulas. Anything going into the gut will end up going through the esophagus, stomach and eventually into the small intestine. When it arrives in the small intestine it then will be increasing the production of what will come out of the small bowel fistulas, and thus into the abdominal wound itself. So that is why, currently, the family member is not eating anything and is being given total parenteral nutrition. * Given the fistulas, I don't think in this case that a traditional detox is going to work I'd like to hear more about the electro-acuscope or " energetic healing units " . Have you heard or know of someone that has treated wounds with these items? What do you mean by energetic healing units? Thanks Carol >X-Originating-IP: [207.69.200.46] >X-MindSpring-Loop: carol@... >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-49733-41789-1089936285-carol=jshelton.com@... >X-Sender: iri2@... >X-Apparently-oxyplus ><oxyplus > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.230.241.36 >From: " iri2 " <iri2@...> >X--Profile: kengullan >Mailing-List: list oxyplus ; contact >oxyplus-owner >Delivered-mailing list oxyplus >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:oxyplus-unsubscribe > >Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:04:42 -0700 >Subject: Re: abdominal fistulas >Reply-oxyplus > >It may be a long story how they got to be there but it may be important as >to how to heal it. I would do ozone cupping and maybe try to find someone >with an electro acuscope and just treat often and long across the >wound. Many other energetic healing units may work as well. But most of >all I would take a long hard look at how it got to be so and eliminate >that from the cause and the body should heal itself. Especially detoxing >will probably help tremendously. >Best wishes and much love, Ken > >Ken Gullan >Institute for Research Integration (IRI), San Diego, CA 92106-2424 >IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with >developmental difficulties. >To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 > > abdominal fistulas > > > Dear group, > > I posted this also on Saul's website - ozonetherapy - but wanted to ask > here also. > > Do you know of anyone who has experience with the healing of an abdominal > wound with fistulas? > > The fistulas are going from an abdominal wound and are holes into the > small > intestine. It is a long story as to how they got there. This is not my > health problem, but that of a family member. > > The abdominal wound is about 9 " X 3 " in a " daisy petal " shape down the > center of the abdomen. The wound has 5 or 6 fistulas going into the small > bowel, and the fistulas exit to the outside of the body in this wound. So > the abdomen wound is somewhat covered by tissue, but the tissue has these > holes into the small bowel. > > Any experience with this? > Have you heard of any treatments that can heal this? > > Thanks, > Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 I think you will be surprised what a general detox can do. The body may not be able to heal the fistula due to it being too preoccupied trying to deal with other things. Anyway, I am not suggesting this will heal it on its own but it can only help. Just google the electro accuscope a call someone near you. I healed my Dad's ulcerated leg with it only. Join Beck and stuff group to read more about electrical and energy medicine. Also inquire about the scenar. Sorry not enough time to give more detail. Ozone would still be my #1 choice. Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI), San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 abdominal fistulas > > > Dear group, > > I posted this also on Saul's website - ozonetherapy - but wanted to ask > here also. > > Do you know of anyone who has experience with the healing of an abdominal > wound with fistulas? > > The fistulas are going from an abdominal wound and are holes into the > small > intestine. It is a long story as to how they got there. This is not my > health problem, but that of a family member. > > The abdominal wound is about 9 " X 3 " in a " daisy petal " shape down the > center of the abdomen. The wound has 5 or 6 fistulas going into the small > bowel, and the fistulas exit to the outside of the body in this wound. So > the abdomen wound is somewhat covered by tissue, but the tissue has these > holes into the small bowel. > > Any experience with this? > Have you heard of any treatments that can heal this? > > Thanks, > Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 you must get in front of a Gastroenteroligist for treatment. There is a drug called Remicade that is known to heal this type of fistula. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 > you must get in front of a Gastroenteroligist for treatment. There is > a drug called Remicade that is known to heal this type of fistula. > > Chuck A useful non-drug remedy packs the fistula with ozonated olive oil. People who want the study (almost a megabyte with pictures) can email me privately. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Duncan, Please email me the report. kengullan@... Thanks Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI), San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Re: abdominal fistulas > you must get in front of a Gastroenteroligist for treatment. There is > a drug called Remicade that is known to heal this type of fistula. > > Chuck A useful non-drug remedy packs the fistula with ozonated olive oil. People who want the study (almost a megabyte with pictures) can email me privately. Duncan OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hello Duncan, Yes, I would like the report on fistulas also. Thanks so much, herb@... K. Hessler, N.M.D. HC 1 Box 175 Centerville, MO 63633 573-924-2254 (usually home after 8 pm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Me too. ruthful@... Thanks D Donna Hessler wrote: >Hello Duncan, Yes, I would like the report on fistulas also. >Thanks so much, herb@... > K. Hessler, N.M.D. >HC 1 Box 175 >Centerville, MO 63633 >573-924-2254 (usually home after 8 pm) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 For probiotics it is hard to beat " kefir. " Kefir is a milk culturing substance. It makes the curds/milk separate from the water/whey. The things it can be used for in cooking and cold drinks is endless. Any dummy can make an excellent cream cheese for dips, I did. If you are interested there is a discussion group on with new members almost every day. There you could find out where to get the culture/grains and what to do with them. Just look for kefir making. Getting grains usually involves just a little time and paying the postage. The grains grow and multiply so none of the group charges for them just the shipping. On 15 Jul 2004 at 14:50, CountryGirl wrote: > Hi Carol. > > I am not an expert or a doctor, just sharing what I have read. > Shulze says that cayenne taken > internally will stop bleeding (even in something as severe as a gun shot > wound. He also uses cayenne powder to > pack wounds to help them heal and they heal without scarring or needing > stitches. We are talking deep, to the bone > wounds. I am thinking internal and external application. Keep in mind > that Shulze recommend high dose. He is > not timid about dosing. He would pack any external wounds with alot of > cayene. And he would take copious > amounts internally. > > It would increase circulation which increases wound healing. > > Another thing I would consider is homozon for internal healing and for > flooding the body with ozone to help > with systemic infection. > > All the things I mentioned in my post to earlier today could be of > help. Magnetic pulsing is awesome. > > Also, probiotics kill staph an a multitude of other bacteria, so that is > another option. Once again I would want to take ALOT. > > Natural things work, but you have to really be aggressive with it. > > Blessings > Not a doctor > Donna > http://www.excellentthings.com > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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