Re: fir sauna tent and ozone steam sauna tent

[Guest guest]

Fred, I had both and I did not like the little FIR tent. Very difficult to get

an overall exposure. I eventually bought one of those lie down, sliding sauna

for $1600 and like it a lot. I alternate with ozone saunas. It is identical to

the ones selling for $2495 and up. I think I can still get them through a

friend who imports them and sells them to resellers only. I have not spoken to

him for months. I am happier with the $1600 FIR than I was with the $650+- one

that I had. Anyone want to buy a used FIR tent sauna??? :-)

Best wishes and much love, Ken

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fir sauna tent and ozone steam sauna tent

I have an ozone steam sauna tent.

Is it worth the expense of getting a FIR sauna tent,

when I already have a steam sauna tent?

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[Guest guest]

> Fred, I had both and I did not like the little FIR tent.

> Very difficult to get an overall exposure.

> I eventually bought one of those lie down, sliding sauna for $1600

Sounds like only the parts of you that face FIR panels

get the most benefit?

Is one of the problems with the FIR tent,

that you don't get the high heat levels that you should?

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Does the lie down sliding sauna surround you with FIR panels?

What benefits have you seen, using the FIR and the steam saunas,

versus just using the (ozone) steam sauna?

>Anyone want to buy a used FIR tent sauna??? :-)

These are selling new on Ebay for a lot less than the

$650 that you paid for it...

[Guest guest]

i don't know about the tent versions, but i was doing one of those wood box

fir saunas for a year or so and the benefits were alot different than ozone.

for one thing i hardly sweat in a steam sauna. in the fir sauna i was

sweating profusely. after about a year my dyslexia was gone.

ozone made the dyslexia worse... guessing because it was stirring things up

and i was unable to excrete them (mercury?)

the wood box units use 150watt ceramic coated heaters. apparently the

wattage and number of heaters are important. at first i was skeptical about

the lack of total body coverage, but i talked to the manufacturer and they

said that as long as it heats up your blood then the blood will circulate

and heat your whole body. i also think that the ambient temperature is

important as well, meaning the air temp in the room. i think it is better to

have your whole body enclosed in the sauna instead of having your head pop

out because you lose heat through your head.

[Guest guest]

Art,

IF you could only have one, which would it be? Since the ozone made

the dyslexia return, and you think it was due to stirred up mercury,

can I conclude the ozone did a deeper detox?

Gail

> i don't know about the tent versions, but i was doing one of those

wood box

> fir saunas for a year or so and the benefits were alot different

than ozone.

>

> for one thing i hardly sweat in a steam sauna. in the fir sauna i

was

> sweating profusely. after about a year my dyslexia was gone.

>

> ozone made the dyslexia worse... guessing because it was stirring

things up

> and i was unable to excrete them (mercury?)

>

> the wood box units use 150watt ceramic coated heaters. apparently

the

> wattage and number of heaters are important. at first i was

skeptical about

> the lack of total body coverage, but i talked to the manufacturer

and they

> said that as long as it heats up your blood then the blood will

circulate

> and heat your whole body. i also think that the ambient temperature

is

> important as well, meaning the air temp in the room. i think it is

better to

> have your whole body enclosed in the sauna instead of having your

head pop

> out because you lose heat through your head.

[Guest guest]

< IF you could only have one, which would it be?>

unfair question, and my mind doesn't work like that. fir saunas are not that

expensive and during the summer time they are free if you have a car... just

sit in it when it is very hot out and you will sweat alot if you are

properly hydrated (separate issue and this does not necessarily mean

drinking lots of water)

i was recently researching fir elements. the actual heaters they use in the

box saunas cost about 30 dollars retail each. i imagine a person could build

an effective one person sauna with 4 or 5 of these elements. so 150 bucks

for the heaters, then some sort of box and then the wiring. not too

expensive. it would be great if someone could come up with an easily

uninstallable retrofit fir heater system for saul's steam unit, then we'd

have something.

and then there is jim who sometimes posts on this list that claims you can

just use two fir heaters in the bathroom to get a good sweat. certainly

worth looking into.

> the dyslexia return, and you think it was due to stirred up mercury,

> can I conclude the ozone did a deeper detox?

>

the ozone definitely is activating the mercury. i don't fully understand

the mechanism for this, but i've made some intuitive guesses in my mind. for

me, ozone is a nutrient. or rather this is how i use it. i have required

liver flushes, sauna, and other means to actually get stuff out of me. i

never had a single rash from the ozone no matter how much i do. and i also

happen to think that ozone is not necessarily a good therapy to use if you

are mercury toxic. i may change my view on this if i ever actually do get

well. but for the time being i am very cautious about ozone /mercury. the

phrase 'deeper detox' doesn't necessarily have any meaning to me although i

think i know what you mean. the devil is in the details or at least this has

been my experience so far.

gail, with your situation and all the rashes, i would certainly look into

the fir saunas. maybe try to find someone who lives near you and test it

out. that's what i did initially and after one try i was sold.

[Guest guest]

I agree, it is like comparing apples and oranges, each type of sauna

provides its own unique benefits. Some people may benefit from one

type, others may benefit from the other type, and still others may

only see the best results with a combination of the two modalities.

Inside a car during the summer does make a great FIR sauna, but I've

found that unless a person has gotten their body accustomed to

sweating they might find it uncomfortable. Those green porta-pottys

also make excellent saunas during the summer, but the aroma therapy

leaves much to be desired.

I also agree that hydration is more than drinking water. Some

people are drinking tons of water but their bodies are not able to

take it in so it goes from the stomach to the bladder. Metabolism,

CO2 levels, and electrolyte levels all come into play.

All the best,

Jim

>

> < IF you could only have one, which would it be?>

>

> unfair question, and my mind doesn't work like that. fir saunas

are not that

> expensive and during the summer time they are free if you have a

car... just

[Guest guest]

> and then there is jim who sometimes posts on this list that claims you can

> just use two fir heaters in the bathroom to get a good sweat. certainly

> worth looking into.

Yes I've used Jims two heater method and it definately works. I sweated

profusely and it detoxed me enough to clear up my sinus problems. The two

heaters only cost about $320.

>

>

>> the dyslexia return, and you think it was due to stirred up mercury,

>> can I conclude the ozone did a deeper detox?

>>

>

> the ozone definitely is activating the mercury. i don't fully understand

> the mechanism for this, but i've made some intuitive guesses in my mind.

> for

> me, ozone is a nutrient. or rather this is how i use it. i have required

> liver flushes, sauna, and other means to actually get stuff out of me. i

> never had a single rash from the ozone no matter how much i do. and i also

> happen to think that ozone is not necessarily a good therapy to use if you

> are mercury toxic. i may change my view on this if i ever actually do get

> well. but for the time being i am very cautious about ozone /mercury. the

> phrase 'deeper detox' doesn't necessarily have any meaning to me although

> i

> think i know what you mean. the devil is in the details or at least this

> has

> been my experience so far.

>

> gail, with your situation and all the rashes, i would certainly look into

> the fir saunas. maybe try to find someone who lives near you and test it

> out. that's what i did initially and after one try i was sold.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Those porta john's are nothing more than an enclosed area with a

seat. I am thinking it would not be difficult to build simple

sitting room of fiberglas panels. Start with a seat and fasten

panels to that tapering at the roof. Any open corners could be

covered in fiberglass mating and epoxied over. The roof would slope

a little to let rain run off and be made of a fiberglass panel. What

type panel would admit an optimum amount of fir.

On 6 Jan 2005 at 7:18, thmicom wrote:

>

>

>

> I agree, it is like comparing apples and oranges, each type of sauna

> provides its own unique benefits. Some people may benefit from one

> type, others may benefit from the other type, and still others may

> only see the best results with a combination of the two modalities.

>

> Inside a car during the summer does make a great FIR sauna, but I've

> found that unless a person has gotten their body accustomed to

> sweating they might find it uncomfortable. Those green porta-pottys

> also make excellent saunas during the summer, but the aroma therapy

> leaves much to be desired.

>

> I also agree that hydration is more than drinking water. Some

> people are drinking tons of water but their bodies are not able to

> take it in so it goes from the stomach to the bladder. Metabolism,

> CO2 levels, and electrolyte levels all come into play.

>

> All the best,

> Jim

>

>

>

> >

> > < IF you could only have one, which would it be?>

> >

> > unfair question, and my mind doesn't work like that. fir saunas

> are not that

> > expensive and during the summer time they are free if you have a

> car... just

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't know if it is so much the type panel, but the color. Green

is going to reflect the green light and allow absorption of red and I

assume absorb more of the suns IR rays too. This is going to require

a warm sunny environment to work. If your not near the equator right

now, it will probably not be very effective this time of year.

All the best,

Jim

> Those porta john's are nothing more than an enclosed area with a

> seat. I am thinking it would not be difficult to build simple

> sitting room of fiberglas panels. Start with a seat and fasten

> panels to that tapering at the roof. Any open corners could be

> covered in fiberglass mating and epoxied over. The roof would

slope

> a little to let rain run off and be made of a fiberglass panel.

What

> type panel would admit an optimum amount of fir.

>