Re: Need your Prozac experiences again....

[Guest guest]

Hi Dina,

As you know , both of my kids are on the abilify. My daughter is on an SSRI

also. The abilify has helped with her rage, but I will say she seems to be more

irritable.I probably shouldn't use my daughter as an example in this case

because she has bipolar.

Every kid is different and responds differently.

My son used to be on prozac and zoloft and is on abilify instead. He still

gets angry , but not the rage type that he had on the prozac. He was like a

monster on it.

hope this helps

hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/3/2006 10:48:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dina.n.jones@... writes:

So, I

called the pdoc and recommended that we try the switch to Abilify to

see if it helps with her anger. The pdoc says, " Maybe she's bipolar

and we should take her off the Prozac and see what happens. " What? No

way! She's not bipolar.

Dina

Poor thing. Do you think this is the type of doctor who, based on pride,

won't try something that a parent recommends or suggests if he/she didn't think

of it first? Hold your ground. From what you explain in the post, it's

clear that the Prozac brought on this behavior in your child. One would assume

that if she were bi-polar this behavior would have been there before (from

your post, I'm assuming it wasn't.)

Remember what has been said on this board many times before.... just because

they have the diploma hanging on the wall, doesn't mean they know what's

best for your child -- you are their best advocate.

LT

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

>

> Poor thing. Do you think this is the type of doctor who, based on pride,

> won't try something that a parent recommends or suggests if he/she

> didn't think

> of it first? Hold your ground. From what you explain in the post, it's

> clear that the Prozac brought on this behavior in your child. One

> would assume

> that if she were bi-polar this behavior would have been there before

> (from

> your post, I'm assuming it wasn't.)

>

> Remember what has been said on this board many times before.... just

> because

> they have the diploma hanging on the wall, doesn't mean they know what's

> best for your child -- you are their best advocate.

> LT

>

> Thanks--I totally believe this is true. Unless you live with an

> OCD'er, you just have no idea. Now she's okay with leaving her on the

> Prozac, but doesn't want to add the Abilify. She just wants me to

> bring her in to her office for some " anger management sessions " .

> Sigh. I guess that's where we'll leave it for now.

>

> Dina

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/5/2006 12:20:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dina.n.jones@... writes:

She just wants me to

> bring her in to her office for some " anger management sessions " .

> Sigh. I guess that's where we'll leave it for now.

....................or not.

Dina - go in again & explain AGAIN that living with the child 24/7 gives you

an insight into behavior that is " normal " and " not normal " for your child.

If you truly believe that the behavior is brought on by Prozac & that adding

the Abilify will help, just tell the doctor that is what she needs to try.

If your child had " anger management " problems before, that would be a

different situation then.... but, did she?

LT

[Guest guest]

Hi Dina. Did your doctor say why she doesn't want to add the abilify now,

when she had suggested it before? In recommending the anger management sessions,

is she thinking the anger issues are unrelated to the increase in Prozac? My

daughter does take both a small amount of Abilify and Risperdal but does not

take either for anger. Good luck. Kim

In a message dated 10/5/2006 11:23:01 AM Central Standard Time,

dina.n.jones@... writes:

Thanks--I totally believe this is true. Unless you live with an

> OCD'er, you just have no idea. Now she's okay with leaving her on the

> Prozac, but doesn't want to add the Abilify. She just wants me to

> bring her in to her office for some " anger management sessions " .

> Sigh. I guess that's where we'll leave it for now.

[Guest guest]

well said! you know her best - trust your gut

Eileen

Quoting jtlt@...:

>

> In a message dated 10/5/2006 12:20:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> dina.n.jones@... writes:

>

> She just wants me to

>> bring her in to her office for some " anger management sessions " .

>> Sigh. I guess that's where we'll leave it for now.

>

>

> ...................or not.

>

> Dina - go in again & explain AGAIN that living with the child 24/7 gives you

> an insight into behavior that is " normal " and " not normal " for your child.

> If you truly believe that the behavior is brought on by Prozac & that adding

> the Abilify will help, just tell the doctor that is what she needs to try.

> If your child had " anger management " problems before, that would be a

> different situation then.... but, did she?

> LT

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

jtlt@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 10/5/2006 12:20:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> dina.n.jones@... <mailto:dina.n.jones%40comcast.net> writes:

>

> She just wants me to

> > bring her in to her office for some " anger management sessions " .

> > Sigh. I guess that's where we'll leave it for now.

>

> ...................or not.

>

> Dina - go in again & explain AGAIN that living with the child 24/7

> gives you

> an insight into behavior that is " normal " and " not normal " for your

> child.

> If you truly believe that the behavior is brought on by Prozac & that

> adding

> the Abilify will help, just tell the doctor that is what she needs to

> try.

> If your child had " anger management " problems before, that would be a

> different situation then.... but, did she?

> LT

>

> Ah no. She (the Dr.) keeps saying she's " preteen " . So, I haven't had

> a preteen before (she's my oldest) how can I refute that? Ugh, this

> is maddening. The first time we put her on Prozac she was really

> irritable and then it balanced out. I am hoping it will do the same

> this week--any day now would be nice!

>

> Dina

>

>

> [

>

[Guest guest]

mnmomof1@... wrote:

>

> Hi Dina. Did your doctor say why she doesn't want to add the abilify now,

> when she had suggested it before? In recommending the anger management

> sessions,

> is she thinking the anger issues are unrelated to the increase in

> Prozac? My

> daughter does take both a small amount of Abilify and Risperdal but

> does not

> take either for anger. Good luck.

>

> Kim, she doesn't want to add the Abilify because her anxiety is gone.

> Her OCD is non-existant again, so why mess with a good thing? I

> understand that, but don't like to be yelled at all day and she's

> scaring her brothers as well. It's not like I didn't wait this out

> for 3 mos and that I take med. changes lightly. It's very frustrating.

>

> Dina

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/6/2006 12:37:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dina.n.jones@... writes:

She (the Dr.) keeps saying she's " preteen " . So, I haven't had

> a preteen before (she's my oldest) how can I refute that?

Dina

My dd is 15yrs.... all I can say from my experience & what I've seen with

all her friends as well as conversations with my friends with teen/preteen

girls..... while you can't dispute that the " teen " attitude will eventually come

out - it doesn't happen overnight. How fast did this change in

attitude/personality happen with your daughter? With the " teen " thing, it was

more of a

gradual " pushing the envelope " type of thing, and I think it is with most kids

- it doesn't just start out as anger.

I don't know... this is just my observations of the " teen " thing.

LT

[Guest guest]

In my daughter's experience, whenever the anger and explosiveness set in, it

was because her depression had returned. Even though the anxiety, OCD symptoms

are gone, any chance she could be having issues with depression? Kim

In a message dated 10/6/2006 5:27:59 AM Central Standard Time, jtlt@...

writes:

How fast did this change in

attitude/personality happen with your daughter? With the " teen " thing, it was

more of a

gradual " pushing the envelope " type of thing, and I think it is with most

kids

- it doesn't just start out as anger.

I don't know... this is just my observations of the " teen " thing.

LT

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

When used in conjunction with an SSRI, the Atypical Anti-psychotics, (of which

Abilify is one) are used to augment the actionj of the SSRI, AND to provide mood

stabilization.

I don't get it that you p-doc doesn't want to use Abilify for the reasons you

mention.....

My son has used both Seroquel and Abilify for his mood related agressive

tendencies. Abilify is not generally used as a first line treatment for OCD

symptoms. It is used to augment those meds which are already being used for OCD

treatment.

If a child is on too high a dosage of ANY of these medications, they can

become angry and out of control.

Joye in Southeastern PA

mnmomof1@... wrote:

In my daughter's experience, whenever the anger and explosiveness set

in, it

was because her depression had returned. Even though the anxiety, OCD symptoms

are gone, any chance she could be having issues with depression? Kim

In a message dated 10/6/2006 5:27:59 AM Central Standard Time, jtlt@...

writes:

How fast did this change in

attitude/personality happen with your daughter? With the " teen " thing, it was

more of a

gradual " pushing the envelope " type of thing, and I think it is with most

kids

- it doesn't just start out as anger.

I don't know... this is just my observations of the " teen " thing.

LT