Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 This must be so hard for you. It may be that he doesn't like to be pushed in whatever way they're doing it in the new school. You could take him out of it. Also, will he communicate with you about it, even if it's just a shake of the head, if you ask him how he feels about the new school. All of the destruction is non-verbal communication I'd guess. For whatever the reasons, our kids are in hiding, and enticing them out is not always fun. Anyway, sending you a hug and knowing you have the wisdom to know what to do. Love, Francine In a message dated 2/19/2007 1:43:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, MAMI24ANGELS@... writes: well i dunno if its little but..i sent an email out a month or so ago saying that the district wanted my son in another school. he was going to a full day reg prek and they wanted him in a 2 1/2 hr special school so he can get o.t, speech, and p.t.(hes 4 almost 5 in April and has aspergers,spd) anyway ever since hes started that school it seems hes gotten "worse" his ripping up things and ive notice for the past week now he has this outburst where he yells "that's all" a few times an hr outta nowhere. he never used to sneak outta his room in the middle of the nite and sneak food,tooth paste,toilet paper anything he can rip and destory its an everyday thing now! i duno how to get him to stop! anyone going thru this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 In a message dated 2/20/2007 12:15:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sunrose101@... writes: Anyway, sending you a hug and knowing you have the wisdom to know what to do. ty for the email. i asked him if he liked the new school and teacher and he tells me yes. but im really thinking about pulling him out cuz im not sure y hes doing this. Check out free AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 My son is doing some thign similar but with paper and other things he also likes to do the repetive thing where he lines things up ect. I havent figured out how to help him.Some times I dont understand schools. as they may have the best intentions at the times it could be the worst mistake at the same time as They have my son on a IEP and he is being mainstreamed and this is also the worst year ever for him. he has become more agressive. he school did nothing but punish him. when it was both of there fault. I just am starting to wonder if teachers are fully trained to work with austic children, and if they are to what degree. is it just to get by. I have to stop him for ripping things up and then I usually have to brush him or end up holding him until he calms down. maureen MAMI24ANGELS@... wrote: well i dunno if its little but..i sent an email out a month or so ago saying that the district wanted my son in another school. he was going to a full day reg prek and they wanted him in a 2 1/2 hr special school so he can get o.t, speech, and p.t.(hes 4 almost 5 in April and has aspergers,spd) anyway ever since hes started that school it seems hes gotten "worse" his ripping up things and ive notice for the past week now he has this outburst where he yells "that's all" a few times an hr outta nowhere. he never used to sneak outta his room in the middle of the nite and sneak food,tooth paste,toilet paper anything he can rip and destory its an everyday thing now! i duno how to get him to stop! anyone going thru this? Love Maureen Happy Holidays Check out the all-new beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 In a message dated 2/20/2007 10:56:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dianarose042000@... writes: just am starting to wonder if teachers are fully trained to work with austic children, and if they are to what degree. is it just to get by. I have to stop him for ripping things up and then I usually have to brush him or end up holding him until he calms down. yea i hear ya. my son was doing soooo much better when he was in a reg prek. i think cuz the teacher he had has a spd son so she knew how to handle my son. now that hes in a school that's supposed to deal with these kind of kids hes worse it seems. im regreting going along with the distric and placing him in this school. Check out free AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I am in a similar sisuation, as he is in a steps program this year, and last year he was still in stright special needs, he is more agressive and comes home bawling, I got in a argument yesterday with the school psycologlist. as she said that she didnt think there was a problem I was so up set. It just amazes me as it makes me wonder what these teachers do and what fields they go in to if they are special needs.MAMI24ANGELS@... wrote: In a message dated 2/20/2007 10:56:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dianarose042000 writes: just am starting to wonder if teachers are fully trained to work with austic children, and if they are to what degree. is it just to get by. I have to stop him for ripping things up and then I usually have to brush him or end up holding him until he calms down. yea i hear ya. my son was doing soooo much better when he was in a reg prek. i think cuz the teacher he had has a spd son so she knew how to handle my son. now that hes in a school that's supposed to deal with these kind of kids hes worse it seems. im regreting going along with the distric and placing him in this school. Check out free AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. Love Maureen Happy Holidays Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Teachers received limited, if any, training re: neuropsychological development/issues, cognitive development ... Teachers concentrate their studies in the field of 'education,' which is separate from psychology and other areas of study. Many psychologists have attempted to influence teachers' work and understanding of child development, but, unfortunately, the two fields are separate and there is limited communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I wonder when this is going to change. I believe if we all home school the needs doesn’t get addressed. However, I’m not saying home school isn’t a good thing. I know all of us want what’s best for our children. Public schools focus only on weakness which works for NT’s maybe, but it has to be they will see this and change it, one day. I just wished it was sooner than later so my child isn’t left behind. So much for “no child left behind”, it gives it a new meaning. Focusing only on weaknesses only contributes to other problems, the moral of the class room, teacher avoids this. Its time we demand our schools be better and that our teachers have more education on this matter. How many kids do you think have AS in the classroom? Isn’t it enough to change it? How can we do this? I am so beyond scrambling for what’s best, fighting to the system. Our kids are Bright and if channeled correctly they can become all that they can be. This isn’t going to happen is it? From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of jhsgpsy Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:07 AM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: little vent Teachers received limited, if any, training re: neuropsychological development/issues, cognitive development ... Teachers concentrate their studies in the field of 'education,' which is separate from psychology and other areas of study. Many psychologists have attempted to influence teachers' work and understanding of child development, but, unfortunately, the two fields are separate and there is limited communication. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 On the flip side, I don't think they will address the needs until the schools feel the financial consequences of kids being pulled out to be homeschooled. They get money from the federal government for special needs kids so they don't want us to pull them out. Their game is to keep the child in so they get the funding while trying their best to avoid using that money on that child so it can be used for other purposes. Loss of income is usually the best motivator - not how well kids progress. > > I wonder when this is going to change. I believe if we all home school the > needs doesn't get addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I agree , when it comes to federal government the schools do get money. The fact remains if our kids are pulled out then there is nothing left to work with or to fight for. That’s why it’s important to fight the fight, when it comes to one child and he needs x amount to get this done or that done I believe if you stand your ground they end up having to do so. I also believe they know where it can be taken if they don’t submit to the child’s needs especially if the parent persists. Then they are looking at bigger funds if they fail. I also believe this makes them susceptible to state testing etc. Kids progress is partically a motivator although I agree with you it should be number 1 but when the state calls for testing because their school has a bad record, they all get nervous and scramble and get the kids ready for such testing. This happened at the last school we attended. Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of cubicmonica Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:48 PM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: little vent On the flip side, I don't think they will address the needs until the schools feel the financial consequences of kids being pulled out to be homeschooled. They get money from the federal government for special needs kids so they don't want us to pull them out. Their game is to keep the child in so they get the funding while trying their best to avoid using that money on that child so it can be used for other purposes. Loss of income is usually the best motivator - not how well kids progress. > > I wonder when this is going to change. I believe if we all home school the > needs doesn't get addressed. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: 2/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 On a second note, if we all pulled out then they loose the money its true but that isn’t breaking them either. Look at the statistics how many kids are in there with AS? It’s time the government checked into this and starts funding, educating teachers in the matter. After all if they did do this, in the end, money if that’s what they are worried about certainly out weighs law suits and taking kids out of public schools. It’s not enough kids that are taken out to make a difference. I’m searching for the right answers here myself and I am “stuck”. Anyway, it’s just my two cents. Maybe we should start a petition across the nation, has this been done before? IM sure it has but how can we all get on board? I’m trying to find what avenue I want to dedicate my energy into and let me add it’s not much left by the time I (sigh) struggle through the avenues on whats best for my son. There is no easy answer at the moment and we all want our kids to be treated equal and I have high hopes of my son becoming all that he can be and then some problem is the system he is in currently is it the best and what can I do to make it better, cut and run-do it myself? We all want the same and I find it appalling there are not many avenues to gain. Why doesn’t the government get more involved it works in their advantage to know that my son for one can be there next scientist to save the world etc? I often question myself, am I wrong here? Should I allow him to just adapt and become whatever it is he may be without extraordinary efforts to achieve this, is it impossible? In my state it’s looking like it and I don’t know where else to turn so it seems the system bucks to adaptation. Extraordinary child with a disability that’s is a waste? I think not and I won’t allow it to happen, somehow someway. Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Barry Hitchcock Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:11 PM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: little vent I agree , when it comes to federal government the schools do get money. The fact remains if our kids are pulled out then there is nothing left to work with or to fight for. That’s why it’s important to fight the fight, when it comes to one child and he needs x amount to get this done or that done I believe if you stand your ground they end up having to do so. I also believe they know where it can be taken if they don’t submit to the child’s needs especially if the parent persists. Then they are looking at bigger funds if they fail. I also believe this makes them susceptible to state testing etc. Kids progress is partically a motivator although I agree with you it should be number 1 but when the state calls for testing because their school has a bad record, they all get nervous and scramble and get the kids ready for such testing. This happened at the last school we attended. Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of cubicmonica Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:48 PM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: little vent On the flip side, I don't think they will address the needs until the schools feel the financial consequences of kids being pulled out to be homeschooled. They get money from the federal government for special needs kids so they don't want us to pull them out. Their game is to keep the child in so they get the funding while trying their best to avoid using that money on that child so it can be used for other purposes. Loss of income is usually the best motivator - not how well kids progress. > > I wonder when this is going to change. I believe if we all home school the > needs doesn't get addressed. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: 2/23/2007 1:26 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: 2/23/2007 1:26 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: 2/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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