Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 How old is your daughter? While I see moods/rages in my son that I know are attributable to the anxiety associated with his OCD and other comorbidities, my daughter who is a year younger and without OCD, but with ADHD (right in the smack middle of adolescence) can display some major mood/rage episodes at times, which I can trace to hormones and the age. There are nights when I stare at her waiting for her head to start spinning around! My oldest (now 23) who was diagnosed bipolar around age 12 had major mood shifts/rage episodes, which looking back were probably attributed to a combination of the bipolar illness and associated anxiety during specific times. As for sorting it all out - I don't know that that's even possible - LOL! In time though, in my situation, I was/am a lot of times able to predict when a mood/rage is going to surface. Certainly keeps you on your toes, that's for sure. In a message dated 9/12/2006 7:22:18 AM Central Standard Time, amarinonii@... writes: How many of your kids have OCD with related moods and rages that are not Bipolar? It's so hard to sort this out. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 I think I would put my daughter in the category you describe. My daughter has recurrent depression besides the OCD, but I think when her OCD is not in control she may seem like she is bipolar. She will be so rigid, irritable, angry and have rages when her OCD isn't controlled. When she is doing well, like now, all of those things come down to a level that is much more normal. There have been a lot of posts lately about bad effects of meds so I can understand you being nervous. Remember, though, the meds have made a huge difference in the lives of many kids. Good luck. Kim In a message dated 9/12/2006 7:22:18 AM Central Standard Time, amarinonii@... writes: My dd's moods and rages are set off all the time-- presumably by OCD thoughts. I often wonder if she is Bipolar. It is so hard to tell. I have bought and read Ross Greene's 'The Explosive Child' and it works mostly. There are times when the anxiety, stress and anger and out of control. We have an appt with a p-doc tomorrow and will try an SSRI. I'm nervous about the outcome. How many of your kids have OCD with related moods and rages that are not Bipolar? It's so hard to sort this out. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 She is 11 yrs, these moods and rigidity and outbursts have occured for most of her life. One of the reasons I always try to have a discussion with her after the blow-ups is to discern what exactly set it off, moods or obsessions. Sometimes it's a guessing game, as she doesn't even know or can describe. Overall, I don't think it is Bipolar at work. I don't want to be closed-off to any possibilities, though. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 My dd is 5 and is overly emotional. I think that is just the way she is. She doesnt really have the rages, occasionally she gets really mad, but nothing over the edge. It is more the sad, crying, than anything else. Her feelings get hurt really easily, too. Sharon Overemotional? My dd's moods and rages are set off all the time-- presumably by OCD thoughts. I often wonder if she is Bipolar. It is so hard to tell. I have bought and read Ross Greene's 'The Explosive Child' and it works mostly. There are times when the anxiety, stress and anger and out of control. We have an appt with a p-doc tomorrow and will try an SSRI. I'm nervous about the outcome. How many of your kids have OCD with related moods and rages that are not Bipolar? It's so hard to sort this out. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 (17, OCD) never went into a rage but he did begin to show a temper with OCD, unusual for him. Now my oldest son (now 21) I wondered about bipolar in his teen years. Very emotional. I was an emotional teen also but he had me beat (was worse). Things settled down as he got older, as they did for me. Just rough teen years, hormones I guess. > > My dd's moods and rages are set off all the time-- presumably by OCD > thoughts. I often wonder if she is Bipolar. It is so hard to tell. I > have bought and read Ross Greene's 'The Explosive Child' and it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 , It is very difficult to sort out! Does bipolar run in your family, and /or alcoholisim? If so, than it may very well be that your child could have some sort of bipolar disorder. Normally your child would be diagnosed as mood disorder nos, if the p-doc suspected what you described as some sort of mood disorder. It's very hard to distinguish when your child is already raging and being moody from ocd. It took me almost 7 years to get the proper diagnosis for my dd. If your daughter has bipolar, most likely the SSRI will make her extremely hyper and out of control. ?Be careful and on the watch. " The Explosive Child " is my bible (lol) I wish you luck hugs Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 > > She is 11 yrs, these moods and rigidity and outbursts have occured for > most of her life. One of the reasons I always try to have a discussion > with her after the blow-ups is to discern what exactly set it off, > moods or obsessions. Sometimes it's a guessing game, as she doesn't > even know or can describe. Overall, I don't think it is Bipolar at > work. I don't want to be closed-off to any possibilities, though. > > > > My child has been raging for years especially about the texture of clothing. The psych calls it OCD rage and not bipolar illness. The trigger is frequently preceded by fatigue, being overheated or frustrated but she cannot tell me what is happening during a rage. Also when she gets stuck on wanting a certain item and won't take no for an answer. Her mind is the most inflexible I've ever encountered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Her mind is the most inflexible I've ever encountered. I think we've all encountered similar with our kids. My 2 sons who do not have OCD are my inflexible ones. They can wear me down, I just can't hold out sometimes. Single-mindedness. As to the clothing texture problem - have you tried having her wear something for a short time, working up to longer times? Also, an occupational therapist trained in sensory integration should be able to help with this, or have you tried this? Of course, $$ can be an issue there, not cheap if out-of-pocket. (my son was lucky to have insurance pay for it) Just some info for anyone to look at, sensory issues come up a lot with clothing, food, etc.: http://www.mmaonline.net/publications/MNMed2002/November/Reisman.html http://www.ideallives.com/articles.php?a=read & aid=370 http://addconsults.com/blog/archives/2006/08.html (scroll down) http://www.movingmountainsforkids.com/si.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 excellent links! Quoting <@...>: > Her mind is the most inflexible I've ever > encountered. > > I think we've all encountered similar with our kids. My 2 sons who > do not have OCD are my inflexible ones. They can wear me down, I > just can't hold out sometimes. Single-mindedness. > > As to the clothing texture problem - have you tried having her wear > something for a short time, working up to longer times? Also, an > occupational therapist trained in sensory integration should be able > to help with this, or have you tried this? Of course, $$ can be an > issue there, not cheap if out-of-pocket. (my son was lucky to have > insurance pay for it) > > Just some info for anyone to look at, sensory issues come up a lot > with clothing, food, etc.: > > http://www.mmaonline.net/publications/MNMed2002/November/Reisman.html > > http://www.ideallives.com/articles.php?a=read & aid=370 > > http://addconsults.com/blog/archives/2006/08.html (scroll down) > > http://www.movingmountainsforkids.com/si.asp > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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