Re: Question on liver flush

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Dear Jill,

If you have those concerns, I would suggest you use Homozon,

which is not herbal at all.

I personally do not think it is a good idea to dump a bunch of herbs

into the body when the liver is plugged. I know naturopaths will disagree

with me on this point, but I see no point in forcing an overworked liver

to process more things, which is what is necessary with any herbs.

Far better to do a couple of weeks of Homozon, get the colon cleaned out,

and then do a series of liver cleanses. After that, then bring on the herbs,

such

as milkthistle and dandelion root.

As always, the most reliable source of Homozon is Donna Crow at

541-485-7199.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " jill1313 " <jill1313@...>

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Subject: Question on liver flush

Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 04:23:39 -0000

Do people on this list who do liver flushes think it's necessary to

do weeks of colon cleansing ahead of time, a la Schulz, meaning

laxative herbs and bulking herbs/stuff (i.e. bentonite, charcoal,

psyollium etc,...and then cascara sagrada and other laxative herbs)?

I tried psyllium and I feel I'm allergic to it--even the smell

bothered me and it really irritated my gut. Bentonite is okay, and I

tried that and caprol for a while with no effect positive or

negative. I really don't like taking herbal formulas rather than

single herbs, and Schulze's and others' approaches contain colon

cleansing formulas with a total of about 12-15 thinigs. Just curious

what people's experiences on here have been.

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[Guest guest]

Thanx Saul. I think I have some homozon here...or I did anyway. But

I'm not constipated anyway, and my instinct is also not to take all

those herbs. I'm sensitive to some of them anyway.

> Dear Jill,

>

> If you have those concerns, I would suggest you use Homozon,

> which is not herbal at all.

>

> I personally do not think it is a good idea to dump a bunch of herbs

> into the body when the liver is plugged. I know naturopaths will

disagree

> with me on this point, but I see no point in forcing an overworked

liver

> to process more things, which is what is necessary with any herbs.

>

> Far better to do a couple of weeks of Homozon, get the colon

cleaned out,

> and then do a series of liver cleanses. After that, then bring on

the herbs,

> such

> as milkthistle and dandelion root.

>

> As always, the most reliable source of Homozon is Donna Crow at

> 541-485-7199.

>

> Best of health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

>

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> From: " jill1313 " <jill1313@y...>

> Reply-oxyplus

> oxyplus

> Subject: Question on liver flush

> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 04:23:39 -0000

>

> Do people on this list who do liver flushes think it's necessary to

> do weeks of colon cleansing ahead of time, a la Schulz, meaning

> laxative herbs and bulking herbs/stuff (i.e. bentonite, charcoal,

> psyollium etc,...and then cascara sagrada and other laxative herbs)?

> I tried psyllium and I feel I'm allergic to it--even the smell

> bothered me and it really irritated my gut. Bentonite is okay, and

I

> tried that and caprol for a while with no effect positive or

> negative. I really don't like taking herbal formulas rather than

> single herbs, and Schulze's and others' approaches contain colon

> cleansing formulas with a total of about 12-15 thinigs. Just

curious

> what people's experiences on here have been.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jill, I've mentioned it before, but I will mention it again. I

personally won't do laxative herbs. They are irritating to the bowel and

I would avoid them. Homozon will clean you out like gang busters

without irritating tht bowel. In fact it is healing to the bowel and

floods your body with ozone at the same time. And I do think you have

more success with liver or kidney cleanses if you do bowel cleansing first.

Blessings

Donna

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jill1313 wrote:

> Do people on this list who do liver flushes think it's necessary to

> do weeks of colon cleansing ahead of time, a la Schulz, meaning

> laxative herbs and bulking herbs/stuff (i.e. bentonite, charcoal,

> psyollium etc,...and then cascara sagrada and other laxative herbs)?

> I tried psyllium and I feel I'm allergic to it--even the smell

> bothered me and it really irritated my gut. Bentonite is okay, and I

> tried that and caprol for a while with no effect positive or

> negative. I really don't like taking herbal formulas rather than

> single herbs, and Schulze's and others' approaches contain colon

> cleansing formulas with a total of about 12-15 thinigs. Just curious

> what people's experiences on here have been.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanx, appreciate the heads up on homozon from both of you. Makes a

lot of sense. I have to say I did try the psyllium-bentonite colon

cleanse and the psyllium had a very bad effect on me.

[Guest guest]

Donna--another question. I looked in my kitchen cabinet and what I

have (and its expired anyway) is Colosan. I remember researching

this a while ago--aren't they similar? Not that I can use this bottle

as it expired in 2003.

[Guest guest]

OH well.. I threw out the colosan because of the expiry date, and

just asked Donna who will send me a homozon next week. I definitely

like the idea of cleansing in a simple way. I'm a little worried tho

because ozonated water really reacted badly with me. I don't know

why that specifically had such an effect, could be die-off in the

bowel who knows but I wasn't able to handle it. So I hope homozon

doesn't have too much ozone but I'll find out.

I had a bit of a hard time or setback a few weeks ago when I got

cystitis. I went to the ER in the middle of the night because it

came on rather suddenly and was really hurting very badly. I *never*

take antibiotics unless totally forced to (as at the beginning of

lyme) but I took 5 days of cipro. Blech. That did take care of the

cystitis but increased my systemic candida and did a # on my gut, so

I have been nursing that back to health. I also got advice from Saul

to ozonate the bladder, and I got a video just yesterday (searched

the internet and found a company that sent it to me) so I can see how

it's done because frankly I get the heeby jeebies about the idea, I

don't even like enemas...but I do think it would be a good idea, to

totally sterilize my bladder. A second urine culture showed no

growth which is good but still...I think candida is a big issue.

So, I'm not sure a health update at the moment is so great because of

the setback above. But I'm mostly recovered from that problem.

>

> > Donna--another question. I looked in my kitchen cabinet and what

I

> > have (and its expired anyway) is Colosan. I remember researching

> > this a while ago--aren't they similar? Not that I can use this

bottle

> > as it expired in 2003.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Donna, I too think, I should avoid the homozon if it slow-releases

ozone in the gut...since the water didn't agree w/ me. What is a good

plain old magnesium oxide product--is that colosan? Or is there

another?

I had to take the antibiotics--I had a major ecoli infection, and it

was killing me. NO way I could bear that pain, never had something

like that before, and within 20 minutes of the first cipro it was

improving.

I take cranberry capsules, as they stop the ecoli from sticking. I

did try mannose, but my gut doesn't like it and I didn't think it did

all that much for me.

Its true DMSO is for chronic inflammation in the bladder, but I don't

have that kind of situation.

[Guest guest]

> On the bladder infection. I would seriously consider doing a round

of

> juniper berries to make sure you eliminate it from your system.

As you

> know the abx don't get them all. The strong ones survive and in a

few

> months have multiplied to crisis levels again.

I sort of don't think that'll happen. FIrst of all, the urine culture

I took about 10 days later (just to be sure) grew out nothing at

all. Secondly, I never had one of those before and there were

specific circumstances, I think, that led to it. I appreciate your

advice, tho.