Re: Re: home made tinctures

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Hi Tom. I know. I really wonder tho. If you read at this link

*http://www.info-archive.com/Fulvic_acid_atributes.htm

It says it chelates all monovalent and divalent elements that it is

exposed to.

Dissolves silica

Complexes and dissolves minerals and trace elements.

*Here is a quote from another fulvic page* *(

http://www.info-archive.com/Fulvic_overview.htm )

*Fulvic acid is the smallest, most complex, most highly refined

naturally occurring water soluble substance on Earth. Tiny amounts

remarkably transform the molecular structure of water, making it

intensely more active and penetrable. Fulvic acid then assists water in

its job of dissolving and transporting. It helps carry nutrients into

the cell and waste products away from the cell, while also helping to

neutralize toxins and invaders.*

(So that says to me that it is a good solvent.)

Another quote: *An example of the penetrability of Fulvic acid is its

dramatic ability to EVEN PENETRATE deadly ultramicroscopic viruses.

**Viruses are super small, and live deep inside the cells of plants,

animals, and humans. Viruses even live inside other microscopic disease

causing organisms, where they hitch-a-ride. Viruses encapsulate

themselves within an impenetrable protein barrier where defense

mechanisms cannot get to them. Fulvic acid helps dissolve their

barriers, penetrating their strongholds, helping to neutralize viruses

and their poisons. *

(What I understand when I read all this stuff is that fulvic acids are

sooooooooooooooo small they get to go anywhere and absorb and transport

nutrients in and absorb and transport toxins out.)

Another quote:

*When Fulvic acid is dissolved and combined with water, the water is

transformed. Its molecular structure is changed and becomes more

organized. Scientists have noticed that the water becomes energized and

is able to transmit unusual biological " messages " to living organisms.

Scientists even go as far as to describe this fulvic water phenomenon as

" memory " . A nursing mother's first breast milk (colostrum) carries an

unknown substance that scientists call /transfer factor/ (not to be

confused with commercial products of similar name), which carries

" messages " to alert the immune system of her offspring to known disease

invaders. Fulvic acid similarly carries with it a message of warning, a

" memory " of past battles with disease invaders. The battle scars are

indelibly etched within the Fulvic acid's refined molecular structure,

which is made up of tiny fragments of DNA, even including remnants of

DNA from past invaders. *

(When I read this and imagine using this kind of wetter water, with

fantastical abilities to absorb and carry nutrients and elements, to

soak herbs to make a tincture, I think it might be even better than

alcohol.)

ANother quote:

*This " milk " from Mother Nature is likely the most important health and

medical discovery ever in history. Nearly every plant, animal, and human

disease can in some way be linked to the deficiency of this " milk " !*

(So, at the very least, it would seem wise to add it to your herbal

preperations. No?)

Another quote: *Fulvic acids are nature's bridge between " dead " mineral

elements and living organic matter. True fulvic acids are extremely

absorbable (approaching 100%).

*

(So, then, wouldn't it make a fantastic solvent, even better than

alcohol? It just seems to me that it would. )

Well, I am going to do an experiment this new moon and make some cayenne

tincture with Hood River Distillery vodka and then I am going to make

some with the fulvic acids and just see what my mouth and body tell me,

as I have no way to do lab tests to see which product is the most

chemically potent. I will report back.

The other good thing about fulvic acids is their anti bacterial, anti

fungal and antiviral properties. That should keep the mix from becoming

a bacterial nightmare.

I wish I knew someone who could actually test both products afterwards.

On a personal report note: My hair color is rapidly returning. My

roomate/friend remarks on it almost daily that she is amazed at how fast

it is happening. I am certain it is the fulvic acids based minerals.

And that even tho they don't conduct electricity in water like the

Concentrace minerals do the body uses them better. At least my body

does because concentrace never did this for me.

Blessings

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

Tom Harrelson wrote:

>Donna,

>Eventhough I've had NO Experience with Fulvic Acid, I don't think that

>it will DISSOLVE the Constituents in Plants as EFFICIENTLY as

>Alcohol. But then even if it does work, it's probably NOT going to be

>as BENEFICIAL OVERALL as PURE Grain Alcohol (see below).

>

>http://healingtools.tripod.com/alctinc.html

>

>There are other Solvents, such as Vinegar and Vegetable Glycerin(e),

>which are used to make Tinctures. Dr. Schulze uses Vinegar, when

>making his SUPER TONIC and also uses Vinegar, plus Alcohol, when

>making his Clinical-Strength Lobelia Tincture.

>

>http://healingtools.tripod.com/supertonic.html

>http://healingtools.tripod.com/lobe1.html see Lobelia Seed Pod

>Tincture

>

>Eventhough, I've said ALL of the above, I'd STILL like to know how

>your Experiment turns-out. You may DISCOVER a NEW and BETTER Solvent

>for making Herbal Tinctures.

>

> " THANKS " for your Post!

>

>Tom

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>>Hi all. I am getting ready to make some of Shulzes

>>

>>

>tintures,

>

>

>>from his recipes. He recommends vodka as a base.

>>

>>I plan to do that, But I also plan to experiment with fulvic

>>

>>

>acids.

>

>

>> From what I have read about them they are incredible carriers, and

>>

>>

>are

>

>

>>such a tiny molecule that I suspect they would make an excellent

>>solvent. Any thoughts on this.

>>

>>I know I have customers who would prefer a non alcoholic tincture

>>(mormon's and others) and if fulvic acids worked it would be a

>>

>>

>great

>

>

>>alternative.

>>

>>So I plan to make a small amount of cayenne tincture with fulvic

>>

>>

>acid

>

>

>>minerals. I will let you know what I think.

>>

>>Does anyone have input on this. Do you think it will or won't work?

>>

>>Thanks

>>Donna

>>http://www.excellentthings.com

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Tom. OH! So many things to consider.

Tom Harrelson wrote:

>Hi Donna!

>I'm wondering how can

>Water, which is FULL of Fulvic Acids and is at Room Temperature,

>dissolve the Constituents from Plant Material even MORE EFFICIENTLY,

>than VERY HOT Distilled Water?

>

### Well, an infusion and a tincture are two different things. Of

course hot water is going to work faster than cold water with fulvic

acids in them. But as I said, from reading the abilities and properties

of fulvic acids, it just makes sense to me that they could work and I

think it is worth experimenting a little. And yes, I will be using the

HOT stuff. Smile. ###

>

>If your Experiment does work, will the Shelf Life of your SPECIAL

>Liquid Herbal Preparation be COMPARABLE to a standard Tincture (50+

>years)?

>

### I seriously doubt it, but I plan to use my tinctures up rather

quickly, so that isn't an issue for me. ###

>BTW, your Herbal Preparation could NOT technically be called

>a Tincture, since Tinctures are alcohol-based or in some cases

>vinegar-based.

>

### Well, I believe it is herbpharm that sells water based tinctures(

someone does, even if it isn't them) so I guess some people do still

call them tinctures when it isn't in water or vinegar. Not that it

matters. ###

> Even MORE IMPORTANT, will your Herbal Preparation go

>EFFICIENTLY through the Mucous Membrane in the Mouth, and then into

>the Bloodstream for MORE EFFICIENT Absorbability?

>

### From what I have read of fulvic acids and the fact that they are the

tiniest of tiny things and are even smaller than virus, the smallest

molecule known to man. I don't think there is anything that is more

absorbable. DMSO? maybe. ###

>Your Experiment will be VERY INTERESTING indeed!!

>

### Yes, it will all be by what I can tell with my senses, as I have no

way of actually testing with lab equipment, but I think the mouth and

body can tell me alot. I will keep you all posted.

Thanks for helping me think on this. Smile.

Blessings

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

>

> " THANKS " for your reply Post!

>

>Tom/Psa. 139:13, 14.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>>Hi Tom. I know. I really wonder tho. If you read at this

>>

>>

>link

>

>

>>*http://www.info-archive.com/Fulvic_acid_atributes.htm

>>It says it chelates all monovalent and divalent elements that it is

>>exposed to.

>>Dissolves silica

>>Complexes and dissolves minerals and trace elements.

>>

>>*Here is a quote from another fulvic page* *(

>>http://www.info-archive.com/Fulvic_overview.htm )

>>*Fulvic acid is the smallest, most complex, most highly refined

>>naturally occurring water soluble substance on Earth. Tiny amounts

>>remarkably transform the molecular structure of water, making it

>>intensely more active and penetrable. Fulvic acid then assists

>>

>>

>water in

>

>

>>its job of dissolving and transporting. It helps carry nutrients

>>

>>

>into

>

>

>>the cell and waste products away from the cell, while also helping

>>

>>

>to

>

>

>>neutralize toxins and invaders.*

>>

>>(So that says to me that it is a good solvent.)

>>

>>

>>Another quote: *An example of the penetrability of Fulvic acid is

>>

>>

>its

>

>

>>dramatic ability to EVEN PENETRATE deadly ultramicroscopic viruses.

>>**Viruses are super small, and live deep inside the cells of

>>

>>

>plants,

>

>

>>animals, and humans. Viruses even live inside other microscopic

>>

>>

>disease

>

>

>>causing organisms, where they hitch-a-ride. Viruses encapsulate

>>themselves within an impenetrable protein barrier where defense

>>mechanisms cannot get to them. Fulvic acid helps dissolve their

>>barriers, penetrating their strongholds, helping to neutralize

>>

>>

>viruses

>

>

>>and their poisons. *

>>

>>(What I understand when I read all this stuff is that fulvic acids

>>

>>

>are

>

>

>>sooooooooooooooo small they get to go anywhere and absorb and

>>

>>

>transport

>

>

>>nutrients in and absorb and transport toxins out.)

>>

>>Another quote:

>>

>>*When Fulvic acid is dissolved and combined with water, the water

>>

>>

>is

>

>

>>transformed. Its molecular structure is changed and becomes more

>>organized. Scientists have noticed that the water becomes energized

>>

>>

>and

>

>

>>is able to transmit unusual biological " messages " to living

>>

>>

>organisms.

>

>

>>Scientists even go as far as to describe this fulvic water

>>

>>

>phenomenon as

>

>

>> " memory " . A nursing mother's first breast milk (colostrum) carries

>>

>>

>an

>

>

>>unknown substance that scientists call /transfer factor/ (not to be

>>confused with commercial products of similar name), which carries

>> " messages " to alert the immune system of her offspring to known

>>

>>

>disease

>

>

>>invaders. Fulvic acid similarly carries with it a message of

>>

>>

>warning, a

>

>

>> " memory " of past battles with disease invaders. The battle scars

>>

>>

>are

>

>

>>indelibly etched within the Fulvic acid's refined molecular

>>

>>

>structure,

>

>

>>which is made up of tiny fragments of DNA, even including remnants

>>

>>

>of

>

>

>>DNA from past invaders. *

>>

>>(When I read this and imagine using this kind of wetter water, with

>>fantastical abilities to absorb and carry nutrients and elements,

>>

>>

>to

>

>

>>soak herbs to make a tincture, I think it might be even better than

>>alcohol.)

>>

>>ANother quote:

>>

>>*This " milk " from Mother Nature is likely the most important health

>>

>>

>and

>

>

>>medical discovery ever in history. Nearly every plant, animal, and

>>

>>

>human

>

>

>>disease can in some way be linked to the deficiency of this " milk " !*

>>

>>(So, at the very least, it would seem wise to add it to your herbal

>>preperations. No?)

>>

>>Another quote: *Fulvic acids are nature's bridge between " dead "

>>

>>

>mineral

>

>

>>elements and living organic matter. True fulvic acids are

>>

>>

>extremely

>

>

>>absorbable (approaching 100%).

>>*

>>

>>(So, then, wouldn't it make a fantastic solvent, even better than

>>alcohol? It just seems to me that it would. )

>>

>>Well, I am going to do an experiment this new moon and make some

>>

>>

>cayenne

>

>

>>tincture with Hood River Distillery vodka and then I am going to

>>

>>

>make

>

>

>>some with the fulvic acids and just see what my mouth and body tell

>>

>>

>me,

>

>

>>as I have no way to do lab tests to see which product is the most

>>chemically potent. I will report back.

>>

>>The other good thing about fulvic acids is their anti bacterial,

>>

>>

>anti

>

>

>>fungal and antiviral properties. That should keep the mix from

>>

>>

>becoming

>

>

>>a bacterial nightmare.

>>

>>I wish I knew someone who could actually test both products

>>

>>

>afterwards.

>

>

>>On a personal report note: My hair color is rapidly returning. My

>>roomate/friend remarks on it almost daily that she is amazed at how

>>

>>

>fast

>

>

>>it is happening. I am certain it is the fulvic acids based

>>

>>

>minerals.

>

>

>>And that even tho they don't conduct electricity in water like the

>>Concentrace minerals do the body uses them better. At least my

>>

>>

>body

>

>

>>does because concentrace never did this for me.

>>Blessings

>>Donna

>>http://www.excellentthings.com

>>

>>

>>

>>Tom Harrelson wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>Donna,

>>>Eventhough I've had NO Experience with Fulvic Acid, I don't think

>>>

>>>

>that

>

>

>>>it will DISSOLVE the Constituents in Plants as EFFICIENTLY as

>>>Alcohol. But then even if it does work, it's probably NOT going to

>>>

>>>

>be

>

>

>>>as BENEFICIAL OVERALL as PURE Grain Alcohol (see below).

>>>

>>>http://healingtools.tripod.com/alctinc.html

>>>

>>>There are other Solvents, such as Vinegar and Vegetable Glycerin

>>>

>>>

>(e),

>

>

>>>which are used to make Tinctures. Dr. Schulze uses Vinegar, when

>>>making his SUPER TONIC and also uses Vinegar, plus Alcohol, when

>>>making his Clinical-Strength Lobelia Tincture.

>>>

>>>http://healingtools.tripod.com/supertonic.html

>>>http://healingtools.tripod.com/lobe1.html see Lobelia Seed Pod

>>>Tincture

>>>

>>>Eventhough, I've said ALL of the above, I'd STILL like to know how

>>>your Experiment turns-out. You may DISCOVER a NEW and BETTER

>>>

>>>

>Solvent

>

>

>>>for making Herbal Tinctures.

>>>

>>> " THANKS " for your Post!

>>>

>>>Tom

>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>Hi all. I am getting ready to make some of Shulzes

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>tintures,

>>>

>>>

>>>>from his recipes. He recommends vodka as a base.

>>>

>>>

>>>>I plan to do that, But I also plan to experiment with fulvic

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>acids.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>From what I have read about them they are incredible carriers,

>>>>

>>>>

>and

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>are

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>such a tiny molecule that I suspect they would make an excellent

>>>>solvent. Any thoughts on this.

>>>>

>>>>I know I have customers who would prefer a non alcoholic tincture

>>>>(mormon's and others) and if fulvic acids worked it would be a

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>great

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>alternative.

>>>>

>>>>So I plan to make a small amount of cayenne tincture with fulvic

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>acid

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>minerals. I will let you know what I think.

>>>>

>>>>Does anyone have input on this. Do you think it will or won't

>>>>

>>>>

>work?

>

>

>>>>Thanks

>>>>Donna

>>>>http://www.excellentthings.com

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

>>>

>>>

>and other alternative self-help subjects.

>

>

>>>THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>>>

>>>This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find

>>>

>>>

>here are for information and research purposes only. We are people

>sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here,

>you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common

>sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions.

>By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR

>yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a

>medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care

>provider.

>

>

>>>You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the

>>>

>>>

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Tom Harrelson wrote:

>So when are we going to hear about your Results?

>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, I plan to start on this new moon, so it will be about three

weeks. I am just going to test it with fulvic acid minerals from Vital

Earth and some cayenne powder and fresh habaneros. I will make an

identical batch in Hood River Distillery potato Vodka. And just do a

taste test and a response test. I mean. Does one warm the insides more

than the other?

Does one seem to get the system pumping more than the other.

And I will report. I will have my room mate test and my dad will want

to test also. And so we will have a really small test group.

I will also keep track of how it looks on a daily basis. If it looks

like it is rotting or if it looks fine.

Blessings

Donna

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