Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 In a message dated 4/2/2006 6:24:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jmfritze@... writes: any advice on how the heck you tell if a one year old who can't talk has a UTI? Hi , Yes, you will need to go to the Ped's. My dd used to get these while still in diapers. They would put a bag on her to collect urine. It's really the only way to know. As for the bad smelling breath, be sure to bring it up at the Peds as well. This is a sign of sinus infection. Poor baby, if she has both UTI and Sinus infection, she must be MISERABLE!! Oh, one more thing...don't give the Motrin before going in. You want to know what her actual temp is in the Doctor's office. Sandi, Mom to --age 13--CVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 " how the heck you tell if a one year old who can't talk has a UTI? Ana was up screaming for three hours last night...It doesn't seem to be every time she pees...doesn't seem to have a cold...on reflux meds that don't seem to be helping...Any ideas? Her breath smells funny???? " - If Ana is still on her second or third course of broad spectrum antibotic in a row, has smelly breath, and screaming in pain at night, you may want to inquire about having her stool checked as well as the other things you were going to request. She may be at risk of bacterial/yeast overgrowth in the gut (read about c.difficile on-line). Look at and smell her mouth -- this is a window into the gut. If her tongue has patches of white and/or gums are sensitive or bleeding and/or tiny little ulcers/sores on her mucosa, etc. she may have an infection (could be respiratory or as far down as the intestine). Sinus infections, candida, and bacterial overgrowth in the gut all tend to STINK. If you suspect any of this, discuss with your doctor. It is simple to check stool samples. Our doc once gave us a requisition order for stool tests (and sterile containers). We used them when our daughter was symptomatic and the results were very revealing. If you submit samples, learn how to get the most accurate results -- write to the group if you wish. Our kiddos are particularly vulnerable to bowel disorders and infections -- many are checked for red and white blood cells in the stool as well as organisms such as c.difficile, parasites, and I can't remember the others...and, of course, all sorts of allergies and inflammatory issues. Sorry you are struggling with your family/in-laws not understanding what you are facing. Many of our parents have walked in your shoes. Try not to worry about what others think right now (when you know more you can figure out what to say to them) -- just take care of your precious Ana. mom CVIDer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 > As for the bad smelling breath, be sure to bring it up at the Peds as well. > This is a sign of sinus infection. Really? the things I learn. She has been stuffed up for almost two weeks now but it isn't draining at all or green or anything. Who knew? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 > As for the bad smelling breath, be sure to bring it up at the Peds as well. > This is a sign of sinus infection. Really? the things I learn. She has been stuffed up for almost two weeks now but it isn't draining at all or green or anything. Who knew? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 > > If Ana is still on her second or third course of broad spectrum antibotic in a row, has smelly breath, and screaming in pain at night, you may want to inquire about having her stool checked as well as the other things you were going to request. She was on the second round of broad spectrum, but the immuno had me take her off them two days ago because she is " normal " . That's when the temp etc started. I'll talk to the doc about the other stuff too. Thanks. Ana 14 mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 In a message dated 4/4/2006 6:47:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jmfritze@... writes: .. Would the doc have seen something in her throat for sure? Or should I call back and ask for a prescription or blood work to check? I know something is wrong. Just don't know how to go about it???? ___________________________________________________________________________ , They check by looking down their throat for drainage. There is a pattern to sinus infection drainage that is medically called " cobblestoning. " But they can also look up the nose to see if there is any swelling--for my son, this is where it starts when his sinuses swell shut. Sometimes, I have taken my son in too soon to see the Doc. I can tell when he is getting an infection much sooner than the Ped can clinically see it. So, if the symptoms persist, take her back in. Also worth noting a sinus CT is sometimes used to diagnose sinus infection if there is doubt. I always try to hold off on antibiotics until I know for sure that there is an infection. If all of this is still a problem in the future, you might want to consider seeing and ENT?? Ear, nose and throat specialists are sometimes better diagnosticians (depends on the Ped). Just a thought. Sandi, Mom to --age 13--CVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Just down his throat where the Ped can see it. There is something > else you will notice when your child has a sinus infection. We refer to it here > as SIB or sinus infection behavior!! How does the ped check? Ana's doc said her tonsils/throat didn't look bad. She is displaying her sick behaviors, though everyone likes to tell me it is teething, which is possible I guess since she is 14 mo and only has two teeth. But I don't know. Would the doc have seen something in her throat for sure? Or should I call back and ask for a prescription or blood work to check? I know something is wrong. Just don't know how to go about it???? Ana 14 mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Our doctor can look in J's nose and see the swelling and then can usually see gunk in the back of his throat. He's had CTs done before-but we know the symptoms now.. Peace Be With You, Pattie Don't let your past dictate who you are now, but let it be a part of who you will become. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jmfritze Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Infant UTI or ??? Just down his throat where the Ped can see it. There is something > else you will notice when your child has a sinus infection. We refer to it here > as SIB or sinus infection behavior!! How does the ped check? Ana's doc said her tonsils/throat didn't look bad. She is displaying her sick behaviors, though everyone likes to tell me it is teething, which is possible I guess since she is 14 mo and only has two teeth. But I don't know. Would the doc have seen something in her throat for sure? Or should I call back and ask for a prescription or blood work to check? I know something is wrong. Just don't know how to go about it???? Ana 14 mo _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:28:31 PM Central Standard Time, sassykay59@... writes: > We refer to it here > as SIB or sinus infection behavior!! For the new members, I'll tell this story again. When started getting sinus infections, she was in her late 2s and already a challenge as you can imagine. But a 2 year old with a sinus infection? Fuggettaboudit. Once we went to the ped when the SIB was the most major symptom. I told the ped (out of 's earshot), " We either need antibiotics or an exorcist. " Fortunately, he gets my humor. (mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very healthy!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:47:34 PM Central Standard Time, jmfritze@... writes: > How does the ped check? Ana's doc said her tonsils/throat didn't look > bad Somebody else want to confirm or deny this -- isn't a sinus infection that young realllllllly rare or maybe impossible? I thought I remember reading the sinuses are not fully formed before a certain age and can't get infected? In our case, had ear infections, then got tubes and the ear infections stopped, then some time after age two started with the sinus infections. I could be wrong == please don't yell at me anyone, just throwing that in there and asking for confirmation!!!! (mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very healthy!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Our ped told us that babies don't have fully developed front sinuses until 2, but the forehead sinuses are there (or maybe the other way around). Either way...I know it can happen because Ana has had five in the last five months! Many times with an ear infection, but sometimes on its own. Ana 14 mo > > In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:47:34 PM Central Standard Time, > jmfritze@... writes: > > > > How does the ped check? Ana's doc said her tonsils/throat didn't look > > bad > > Somebody else want to confirm or deny this -- isn't a sinus infection that > young realllllllly rare or maybe impossible? I thought I remember reading the > sinuses are not fully formed before a certain age and can't get infected? > > In our case, had ear infections, then got tubes and the ear infections > stopped, then some time after age two started with the sinus infections. > > I could be wrong == please don't yell at me anyone, just throwing that in > there and asking for confirmation!!!! > > (mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- currently has > polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t- cell & other > defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very healthy!) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Similar case over here. We actually had two of our kids that struggled with URIs prior to the age of 2. Cole, our PIDer, struggled with 2 of them before he even turned 9 months old. Our ped told us the same thing as yours, the upper sinuses are intact while the full sinus cavity is still developing/changing until approx. 24 months. Usually infants seen with URIs also present with ear infections either before or during the URI. -Rogena (Mom to 4 boys, including Cole -IgA & IgG Subclass Def, GERD, possible Celiac) > > > > In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:47:34 PM Central Standard Time, > > jmfritze@ writes: > > > > > > > How does the ped check? Ana's doc said her tonsils/throat > didn't look > > > bad > > > > Somebody else want to confirm or deny this -- isn't a sinus > infection that > > young realllllllly rare or maybe impossible? I thought I remember > reading the > > sinuses are not fully formed before a certain age and can't get > infected? > > > > In our case, had ear infections, then got tubes and the ear > infections > > stopped, then some time after age two started with the sinus > infections. > > > > I could be wrong == please don't yell at me anyone, just throwing > that in > > there and asking for confirmation!!!! > > > > (mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- > currently has > > polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t- > cell & other > > defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very > healthy!) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Similar case over here. We actually had two of our kids that struggled with URIs prior to the age of 2. Cole, our PIDer, struggled with 2 of them before he even turned 9 months old. Our ped told us the same thing as yours, the upper sinuses are intact while the full sinus cavity is still developing/changing until approx. 24 months. Usually infants seen with URIs also present with ear infections either before or during the URI. -Rogena (Mom to 4 boys, including Cole -IgA & IgG Subclass Def, GERD, possible Celiac) > > > > In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:47:34 PM Central Standard Time, > > jmfritze@ writes: > > > > > > > How does the ped check? Ana's doc said her tonsils/throat > didn't look > > > bad > > > > Somebody else want to confirm or deny this -- isn't a sinus > infection that > > young realllllllly rare or maybe impossible? I thought I remember > reading the > > sinuses are not fully formed before a certain age and can't get > infected? > > > > In our case, had ear infections, then got tubes and the ear > infections > > stopped, then some time after age two started with the sinus > infections. > > > > I could be wrong == please don't yell at me anyone, just throwing > that in > > there and asking for confirmation!!!! > > > > (mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- > currently has > > polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t- > cell & other > > defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very > healthy!) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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