Re: Med tricks

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The only suggestion I have is what I call the ice cube trick. I

would give my kids an ice cube or 2 to suck on and numb their taste

buds (give her some time to play with it, but make sure she sucks on

it about a minute or so), then sneak that med in! Really, they

could not taste it that way. Popsicles work, too. I'd let them get

part way through it, give them whatever the nasty med of the day

was, and get back to that popsicle!

Good luck. It took me a LONG time to get to this point, and felt

awful as I had 's head between my legs, my legs over top of his

arms and my legs crossed over his legs to keep him still. He

couldn't move, still managed to throw up his med on me when we were

done!

Meg

mom to 14yo, asthma, allergies, growth hormone def

, 10yo, asthma, allergies (and strep---gggrrrrr)

Annie, 7yo, asthma, allergies, (?)reflux, and hopefully that's it!!

I got her pneumo titers back, and some shot way up after her last

prevnar---hopefully they'll stay that way!

....back to lurkdom...

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lurking around myself.........

I was so glad to read this post !! I feared I was the only one who had held

down mine this way. In the hospital I had sis in the bathroom corner pinned

down with my legs, etc. she was screaming, a nurse came in and shrieked....I

told her it was the only way, she stayed and watched, it was over quick.

Lynne mom to Sis Igg def, subclasses low, reflux, pseudo tumor cerebri,

asthma....

megoonie99 <megoonie99@...> wrote:

The only suggestion I have is what I call the ice cube trick. I

would give my kids an ice cube or 2 to suck on and numb their taste

buds (give her some time to play with it, but make sure she sucks on

it about a minute or so), then sneak that med in! Really, they

could not taste it that way. Popsicles work, too. I'd let them get

part way through it, give them whatever the nasty med of the day

was, and get back to that popsicle!

Good luck. It took me a LONG time to get to this point, and felt

awful as I had 's head between my legs, my legs over top of his

arms and my legs crossed over his legs to keep him still. He

couldn't move, still managed to throw up his med on me when we were

done!

Meg

mom to 14yo, asthma, allergies, growth hormone def

, 10yo, asthma, allergies (and strep---gggrrrrr)

Annie, 7yo, asthma, allergies, (?)reflux, and hopefully that's it!!

I got her pneumo titers back, and some shot way up after her last

prevnar---hopefully they'll stay that way!

....back to lurkdom...

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I was wondering if anyone has advice on giving liquid meds to a

little one who clenches her lips and arches her back as soon sees

the medicine syringe.

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My 20 month old niece, Dixie use to give a hard time with taking

meds. Then one day a thought came to me. Since Dixie likes juice

why not tell her it is juice? Well to the surprise of everyone, it

worked like a charm. Dixie takes her meds. out of the syringe like

a bit girl after I say " Time for Juice " & then i ask her if it was

good, she either nods yes or no. But most of the time because she

thinks it is " Juice " she tells us yes!!

I think it is who used a Turkey Baster to get to take

her meds. That is a good idea also. I tried this with Dixie & she

finds it " fun " !!!

Sometimes it helps to change what you are using to get the meds. in

& change is something all children like. It fakes their minds & then

they like to see what you are gonna come up with next.!!!

Hope this is some help.

S.(mom to Blake 14, CVID with Complete T-Cell Dysfunction &

Plenty of other issues)

http://www3.caringbridge.org/sc/blakester

Come & Experience the Greatest Adventure of MY Lifetime!!!!

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There was one time that I had to give jana some nasty bitter stuff and

tried to mix it with her advil but then didn't want her to get to not

liking it so I resorted to something else that the doc recomended. She

was taking a tsp of vantin and I mixed it with a tsp of chocolate syrup

and we did that for 2-3 weeks and she would have no problem taking it

that way.

Cassie

lynne llerrom wrote:

> lurking around myself.........

> I was so glad to read this post !! I feared I was the only one who

> had held down mine this way. In the hospital I had sis in the

> bathroom corner pinned down with my legs, etc. she was screaming, a

> nurse came in and shrieked....I told her it was the only way, she

> stayed and watched, it was over quick.

> Lynne mom to Sis Igg def, subclasses low, reflux, pseudo tumor

> cerebri, asthma....

>

> megoonie99 <megoonie99@...> wrote:

> The only suggestion I have is what I call the ice cube trick. I

> would give my kids an ice cube or 2 to suck on and numb their taste

> buds (give her some time to play with it, but make sure she sucks on

> it about a minute or so), then sneak that med in! Really, they

> could not taste it that way. Popsicles work, too. I'd let them get

> part way through it, give them whatever the nasty med of the day

> was, and get back to that popsicle!

>

> Good luck. It took me a LONG time to get to this point, and felt

> awful as I had 's head between my legs, my legs over top of his

> arms and my legs crossed over his legs to keep him still. He

> couldn't move, still managed to throw up his med on me when we were

> done!

>

> Meg

> mom to 14yo, asthma, allergies, growth hormone def

> , 10yo, asthma, allergies (and strep---gggrrrrr)

> Annie, 7yo, asthma, allergies, (?)reflux, and hopefully that's it!!

> I got her pneumo titers back, and some shot way up after her last

> prevnar---hopefully they'll stay that way!

>

> ...back to lurkdom...

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> This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed

> with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated

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> as professional advice.

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[Guest guest]

> why not tell her it is juice? Well to the surprise of everyone,

it

> worked like a charm.

Thanks for the advice everyone. Ana loves her tylenol, which we

call " yummy medicine " So for a while we would tell her it was yummy

medicine and then sneak in the nasty stuff. Well that lasted about

two days then she started refusing her tylenol too. So I figure we

might as well have one she likes, so we stopped calling anything

else that and now she is back to clapping when she sees the tylenol

bottle. Oh well.

I might try the choc. syrup. The ice cube thing may work, but she

has serious aversions to anything that is too cold, too hot, too

lumpy, too smooth, too thick, too thin.... so we'll see. But we

have figured out she likes strong flavors! She loves chicken n'

biskit crackers (actually had them for breakfast today), those taste

like onion. She also enjoys lemon juice, soy sauce and viniger.

Weird. But, whatever works.

So I'll try the chocolate, what child doesn't like chocolate!!!

ANa 14 mo

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from dale,

I wish I could give you some good advice about something wonderful that

worked for us. But truthfully, this one just about finished me off and

made me retire from motherhood! , my non-PID (as far as we know)

kid had chronic ear infections from 2 weeks to 5 years when we discoverd

his adenoids had grown so large they were blocking the eustacian tubes

-- once surgically removed -- ear infections stopped.

So maybe this will make you laugh: I remember somewhere about 12 - 16

months of age when I could no longer " man handle " him. I would sit in

the floor and put one leg over his legs and one over his chest, try to

pry his mouth open by holding his nose and try not to spill his medicine

all over him in the process. But one day, it just wouldn't work.

Everything I got in his mouth just came spewing right back out. I was

covered with medicine, he was covered with it. I was crying, he was

fighting like crazy. My husband wasn't there to help and I was getting

pink (probably Amoxicillan) all over him and all over me and all over

the carpet and I just cracked. I started smearing it all over his

little body. I was yelling -- " if you won't take it -- then maybe it'll

do some good this way! " I was really cracking up -- when I realized

that 's mouth was wide open totally fascinated to see this side of

me! I hugged him tight and just told him that I couldn't do it anymore.

If he wouldn't take his medicine like a little man -- then he would

just have to put up with the ear aches. But I was not going to fight

him anymore. I couldn't believe that he was as ready to give it up as I

was. After that he would just sit in his high chair and open his mouth

when he saw it coming. If he ever frowned or tightened his lips -- I

would just look at him and say ', you know mamma will go bonkers

if you don't take your medicine - and if you don't take your medicine

your ears will hurt. " And it worked. But I don't recommend it!!! They

do cart you off to the funny farm for days like this!!!!

So when you wrote -- it brought back good memories! Even though they

don't seem so sweet when they are happening!

In His service,

dale

[Guest guest]

And it worked. But I don't recommend it!!! They

> do cart you off to the funny farm for days like this!!!!

Dale,

Thanks for the laugh. At least I know I'm not alone. That always

helps.

[Guest guest]

Are you using a syringe....just put it in her lips and towards the

cheek...I will sit on the counter and put my arm around him and

snuggle his head into the crook of my arm and then inject the liquid

into the cheek area.....sometimes it's really hard...

Most meds can be mixed with chocolate syrup...check with your

pharmacist.

Hope that helps...

Med tricks

I was wondering if anyone has advice on giving liquid meds to a

little one who clenches her lips and archs her back as soon as she

sees the medicine syringe. Ana is currently on:

Ceftin 2X day

Prevacid 1X day

Multivitamin 1X day

Calcium supplement 1X day

So thats five fights, five times I get to pin my daughter down and

force her mouth open, and five times she gags and almost throws up

no matter how quickly I put her nuk in/offer her water/food or

anything else. She no longer falls for offering food to get her to

open her mouth then sneaking it in, or distraction with a video etc.

etc. So I usually do them in 3-4 rounds, I double up one of the

antibiotics with the multivitamin(in the same wrestling match).

Is there a trick I am missing here??

Mixing with water/milk etc doesn't work because Ana doesn't drink

anything except when she nurses...yet another daily fight. Just

drink the water kid.

Ana, almost 14 Mo, IgG def, FTT, reflux???

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Boy, did Dale give me a good laugh!!! It felt good to know I'm not

the only one out there who has cracked under the pressure as the

sole medicine giver in the house. I always prided myself (and my

boys) in the fact that I could get them to take anything. Then God

blessed with me Flynn, our 19 mo old. Flynn absolutely refuses

anything by mouth. I thought I'd outsmart him on the Tylenol &

Advil and get the chewables. YEAH RIGHT! That flew with him for

about one round each. He let me know that he knew it WAS NOT a

chewable vitamin! For cold symptoms, the pediatrician gave me

samples of the Triaminic thin strips. Flynn hates them, but if I

slap it on his tongue and hold his mouth closed for a second the

medicine dissolves before he can wipe it away with his hand.

I have tried it all with Flynn. He just lets me know he is too

smart to be fooled by me. He actually has learned to make himself

throw up the medicine after it's down, get this, he'll do it just by

making gagging sounds, no fingers it the throat needed. Even the

pediatrician was impressed!

I tried the chocolate. NOPE. Haven't tried the ice cube trick.

Sounds intriguing, have to try it out sometime.

When it came time for the a round of antibiotics needed this month

for RSV, I made the doctor give him shots. It was a hassle driving

to the office for three days in a row, but it saved the fight. When

he still needed more meds, I told him he'd have to take

his " bubblegum " or go get ouchy shots. He took the liquid Zithro,

sortof. At least his infection cleared up and he seems to have been

okay. I shudder at the idea of the outcome of his titer testing. I

haven't requested it yet, but I need to. He is exhibiting some of

the same health concerns we saw in Cole. If the tests do reflect a

deficiency it'll mean more meds. Oh BOY!!!

The doctors think he has asthma and THANK GOD he loves his little

fishy mask for those twice daily neb treatments or there would be

even more fights!

I wish there was some magic trick, but it's just one of those " tough-

love " things we must do as mommies & daddies. One thing that does

seem to work well for my other boys is giving the meds fun names.

Cole takes Zantac for his GERD, we call it " Burp Medicine " (helps

control his burps which he finds so comical), his Zyrtec is " Zurg "

medicine (after Zurg on Toy Story 2), antibiotics are " Bubblegum "

medicine (since most are bubblegum flavored), and pain relievers

are " Feel Better " medicines. You might find this works for Ana if

she has daily regimens.

Good Luck, we feel your pain!

-Rogena (Mom to 4 boys, including Cole -IgA & IgG Subclass Def,

GERD, possible Celiac)

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Some of your kids are a little young for this, but my boys were pretty

little when I taught them how to swallow pills (they HATED liquid meds). We

practiced by swallowing mini-M & M's and working up to regular M & M's, it

worked like a charm! Some pills are a little chalky and hard to swallow, so

we solved that by either putting a pill into a spoonful of yogurt/pudding,

or by melting chocolate chips in a bowl (in the micro) and coating the pills

in the melted chocolate.

Mom to Conner (11, possible combined immune deficiency, Asperger's, mild CP,

partial seizures, asthma, GERD, Hashimoto's disease and resolved adrenal

insufficiency),

Hayden (11, unknown PID, PDD-NOS, IBS and moderate hearing loss/aided),

Evan (11, unknown PID, asthma and mild hearing loss/unaided),

and Kelsey - (10, unknown PID, asthma)

Please visit us at www.caringbridge.org/in/connersmith

[Guest guest]

Tic tacs work well for learning to swallow pills.

Peace Be With You,

Pattie

Don't let your past dictate who you are now, but let it be a part of who you

will become.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

S

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:59 AM

Subject: Re: Med tricks

Some of your kids are a little young for this, but my boys were pretty

little when I taught them how to swallow pills (they HATED liquid meds). We

practiced by swallowing mini-M & M's and working up to regular M & M's, it

worked like a charm! Some pills are a little chalky and hard to swallow, so

we solved that by either putting a pill into a spoonful of yogurt/pudding,

or by melting chocolate chips in a bowl (in the micro) and coating the pills

in the melted chocolate.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/21/2006 9:06:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,

tripletsand1@... writes:

Some of your kids are a little young for this, but my boys were pretty

little when I taught them how to swallow pills (they HATED liquid meds). We

practiced by swallowing mini-M & M's and working up to regular M & M's, it

worked like a charm

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We did this as well--my Uncle (a Ped) taught us. Put the pill UNDER the

tongue, fill the mouth with water and swallow. This not only helps them not

taste

the meds as much but helps with gag reflex as well. I started with Bri when

he was about 2 yrs. old.

Sandi, Mom to --age 13--CVID

[Guest guest]

> Some of your kids are a little young for this, but my boys were

pretty

> little when I taught them how to swallow pills (they HATED liquid

meds).

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How old were your kids when you did this. I know Ana isn't ready yet,

but I'm wondering what age it usually is ok. Thanks for the idea.

Ana 14 mo

[Guest guest]

learned to swallow pill just before age 4 and ph at age 2 ½. With

ph it was a peer pressure thing, though! LOl He saw swallowing

pills and said, “I swallow my pills like !” and just did it. He amazed

us and still does. The kid must have an esophagus the size of a horse—he

can swallow an Augmentin 1000 and 8 other pills ALL AT THE SAME TIME!

has a few pills that are hard for him to swallow and is definitely a

one pill at a time guy

Peace Be With You,

Pattie

Don't let your past dictate who you are now, but let it be a part of who you

will become.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

jmfritze

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:21 PM

Subject: Re: Med tricks

> Some of your kids are a little young for this, but my boys were

pretty

> little when I taught them how to swallow pills (they HATED liquid

meds).

,

How old were your kids when you did this. I know Ana isn't ready yet,

but I'm wondering what age it usually is ok. Thanks for the idea.

Ana 14 mo

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[Guest guest]

Our #1 trick is to hold your nose while you are taking the med. When you

cannot smell, you cannot taste.

So the child holds their nose and mom or dad pretend to compete and hold

their nose longer but they let go of their own nose to say " I'm really going to

beat you this time " and then they " realize " they've just lost and really

dramatically say " AWWWW, man!!! " or something... the child thinks it's pretty

funny,

then you grab the drink you have ready for them, pull the syringe out saying

" keep holding it keep holding it " so they don't let go of their nose, give them

the drink and after a couple swallows, they can let go because most of the

yucky taste is gone.

We used to hold down when she was younger, then realized bribery worked

just fine (3 jelly beans after you take your medicine), then later came up

with the nose-holding trick. So by the time our non-PID came along, on the very

rare occasions she's needed meds, she knew 's nose-holding trick. A child

younger than 2 would probably not do this, they would feel like they were

being suffocated.

Of course, a couple of skittles or jelly beans or M & Ms after to " wash it

down " can still make it fun.

Hey, if this technique works with Tamiflu (horrid!), it will work with

anything!! I now hold my nose with any nasty syrup I need.

Oh, and yeah, and thanks for the credit -- the turkey baster WAS my thing...

we did that when it was a larger amount of liquid that wouldn't fit in a

syringe, like yucky pedialyte for dehydration or prune juice for bad

constipation.

(mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- currently has

polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other

defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very healthy!)