Re: Ozonide Inhalation Thread -- reply by Dr.B.

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Dear Ron & Group:

I haven't had time to participate lately but today I have some time, so

thought I'd jump in with my 2 cents on this subject. Having more than

15 years as a Certified BioOxidative Therapist and Trainer, I am very

familiar with this stuff, as Saul, Sherry and others are also. Most of

this information has been published as you've discussed for decades if

not a hundred or more years...the French did a lot in this realm also...

The reasoning behind breathing triterpenoid ozonides (the compound which

is made when ozone binds to certain essential oils like camphor, pine,

etc.) is that ozonides are the active component which will interact

with your cells in the lungs just like the fatty acids on red blood

cells produce when oxidized by ozone...the active compound is believed

to be ozonides as a result when we do major autohemotherapy (treating

200+cc of whole blood). Ozone and oxygen both combine with the fatty

acids to produce ozonides of oils...

Ozonides of long chain fatty acids is what you're breathing, not just

" nebulized " ozone. Ozonides are different than just plain old ozone and

have a longer life. Ozone as you know must be generated on site since

it has such a short 1/2 life...35-40 min. in cold water for

instance...this is why its important in my estimation to get the highest

quality ozonides, which requires oxygen fed source, not air...

(This is why we have the stabilized ozonide product LCO-7 in serum form

which we have made for us in Germany...it gives us a lot of what we'd

get by treating blood, without all the mess.)

The reason for using an oxygen fed nebulization system over air fed is

that you don't risk excess nitrous oxide exposure which you would get

with just airfed sources since of course air has other components

including nitrogen...however, you can run the ozone through activated

carbon to remove the nitrogen before bubbling it through the oils to

eliminate that problem, and it is also 1/80th or something weaker than

100% oxygen fed...(good quality air these days will contain around

18-20% 02)... an 02 concentrater makes a good alternative option as long

as there is a carbon filter between the unit and the oil so as to remove

any % of nitrous oxides... 02 concentrators can't get to 100%

however...most put out around 50-70% 02 I believe...

With our ozone far infrared sauna that I manufacture, we have an

optional nebulizer for essential oils which pumps out a lot per minute

in a very fine micronized mist...putting essential oils into the air is

a really pleasant way to bind excess atmospheric oxygen in a room and

deactivate it into beneficial ozonides...personally I prefer a mixture

of wintergreen oil, lavender oil or lime and orange mixtures...all AAA

grade medicinal grade oils of course. For added protection, I also use

a carbon based air purifier running as well, since the sauna is not air

tight and ozone does escape into the room...

Hope this is somewhat helpful...Blessings on all Today!

Dr.Bormann

http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/

Ron Petruccione wrote:

>Moria,

>No it does not, you also need an ozone generator, but apparently an " air "

>fed one like the Nature Clean that is on the website. When I asked Tom via

>phone if one could use a medical ozone generator he said absolutely not. He

>explained why, but not in a way I could understand.

>Ron

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> OZOL questions // was: Re: Nenah OZOL Inhalation Therapy

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Hello Carolyn,

> Dear Ron & Group:

> I haven't had time to participate lately but today I have some

time, so

> thought I'd jump in with my 2 cents on this subject.

Gee, I'm glad to see you here. I was thinking about you

recently and thought you were gone... anyhow, nice to

see a post from you.

> The reasoning behind breathing triterpenoid ozonides (the compound

which

> is made when ozone binds to certain essential oils like camphor,

pine,

> etc.)

If you could comment further on which essential oils, I would

really appreciate it. I am thinking of buying EO later this

week--- likely lavendar, unless you (or someone) tells me

that this is not as good. Although, I guess I should also

price camphor and pine. What other EO's are good?

> Ozonides of long chain fatty acids is what you're breathing, not

just

> " nebulized " ozone. Ozonides are different than just plain old

ozone and

> have a longer life. Ozone as you know must be generated on site

since

> it has such a short 1/2 life...35-40 min. in cold water for

> instance...this is why its important in my estimation to get the

highest

> quality ozonides, which requires oxygen fed source, not air...

No worries there, I'm using oxygen ==> medical ozone machine

==> nebulizer....

> (This is why we have the stabilized ozonide product LCO-7 in serum

form

> which we have made for us in Germany...it gives us a lot of what

we'd

> get by treating blood, without all the mess.)

what form is this product in? Could you explain what the

product is? e.g. a liquid? a pill? a gas?

You said " in serum form " . I picture blood being shipped

to you from Germany????

Okay, so I sound clueless....

... an 02 concentrater makes a good alternative option as long

> as there is a carbon filter between the unit and the oil so as to

remove

> any % of nitrous oxides... 02 concentrators can't get to 100%

> however...most put out around 50-70% 02 I believe...

I use an oxygen concentrator--- I don't know what sort of

filters it does/doesn't have. I think the 02 output is higher

than that though (I'd have to look at the papers to see

what it is.)

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> With our ozone far infrared sauna that I manufacture, we have an

> optional nebulizer for essential oils which pumps out a lot per

minute

> in a very fine micronized mist...putting essential oils into the

air is

> a really pleasant way to bind excess atmospheric oxygen in a room

and

> deactivate it into beneficial ozonides...

do you by any chance have a picture of this?

Also do you sell it separately?

When you say " pumps out " , do you mean that there is a pump

involved?

> personally I prefer a mixture

> of wintergreen oil, lavender oil or lime and orange mixtures...

Okay, I take it these are all " good " to use with ozone.

thanks

Moria

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Carolyn,

Glad to see you again, your awlays missed. Thanks for all the insightful

info.

I am still perplexed by Tom's answer of not being able to use a btl. fed o3

gen. It sounds to me that any application that directly involves " breathing "

in the ozone should come from a btl.

Even if his Nature Clean has a dryer and carbon filter, I understand that

not to be even equal to a O2 concentrator.

The last part of my query was in regards to its design.

Does it not offer anything special?

Does in somehow make smaller particles. I am familiar with Saul and others

vials " bubblers " . Do those produces the same small particles?

I thought concentrators put out higher %'s than that (80-90)?

Is LCO-7 administered by IV?

Ron

OZOL questions // was: Re: Nenah OZOL Inhalation Therapy

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Hi Carolyn. Can you tell us more about this product. What it is used

for. How much. What is the cost. How long is it used, etc.

Thanks

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

Carolyn Bormann wrote:

>(This is why we have the stabilized ozonide product LCO-7 in serum form

>which we have made for us in Germany...it gives us a lot of what we'd

>get by treating blood, without all the mess.)

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>Hope this is somewhat helpful...Blessings on all Today!

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>Dr.Bormann

>http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/

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I tried a version of this product from Germany, probably the same

thing just renamed, mine was called pararizol or something like that;

as it had the same exact components. I couldn't stand it because the

clove oil was so sweet and yucky. I returned it after just smelling

it, much less trying to take it internally. Not to say the idea

isn't a good one.

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> >(This is why we have the stabilized ozonide product LCO-7 in serum

form

> >which we have made for us in Germany...it gives us a lot of what

we'd

> >get by treating blood, without all the mess.)

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> >Hope this is somewhat helpful...Blessings on all Today!

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> >Dr.Bormann

> >http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/

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