Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 i have tried melatonin for sleep (which did nothing) and someother thing for focus nothing also (forget the name for it was awhile ago.) i needed to give mine the meds which help but he metabolises things real quick.so not long lasting .my son if not on meds can literally destroy a house (holes in walls kicking furniture moving furniture knckoing things over ) i know there are behaviors thing u can do but i cant do alot i am one person and i also have 4 kids when he was first diagnosed(at 4) he was diagnosed adhd he was non stop movement and no sleep he existed on maybe 3 hrs sleep they didnt prescribe sleep meds then but did rx dexdrine which only helped for a few finding a med to help him is very hard to do .he pretty much has to take a cocktail to get a better mood he is mr hfautism adhd odd and suffers anxiety he takes half a clonidine ,.5repiradol,and 54 mg conderta in the am hafl of a conidine at 330 and 1 and a half clonidine and a 1. respiradal at 6 for bed if he didnt he would not sleep his bosy does not let him calm down enough to sleep. it is hard for me to do a diet thing for he would not eat anything for so long the kid existed on maybe a bite of dinner and nothing for breakfast and maybe a bite at lunch i was shocked he acutally grew for how much he actually ate him and my other son were the same way with eating and they did not eat meat til about well michael(11) who i am referring to til about 6 and my derek (he is 13)around a yr and a half ago did he start to finally eat meat (his muscles in the mouth were not formed good enough to be able to chew the meat enough to swallow so he never could eat it ) diets are very hard like i said also cuz we do not have money to buy food we get food stamps but not much and most of the healthy food and so forth is to much money(like organicly grown ,with out added what ever all of that we are already on diets for high cholesterol).and the fact i have 4 kids and i would have to change everyones diet big time i do cut out things i know arnt good for u like junk food .and the likes .now michael also gets into foods he has to have he loves nurtigrain bars ,and penut butter,jelly,pop tarts all of which i buy the generic of most of it is also like a i need it to go to sleep thing like at bedtime he will make a bowl of peanut butter to eat or a bowl of jelly not a sandwich or anything like that a bowl of it ) .but that is basically all i have tried concerning diets .and natural meds oh i have also tried chamomile tea and bathsoap and lotion to relax and massage wouldnt let me do the massage said it tickeld lol and nothing happend with the tea didnt make him calm or anyuthing .i like to do aromatherapy and stuff like the coors and so forth not to use in a bedroom and taking things(colors out of the room that would make u alert.anything makes him alert lol plus he wont sleep in his room he has to be near me to sleep he wont sleep away from me i have struggled with bedtime and sleep since age 1 1/2.any ideas on that would be greatly appreciated . god sorry about the book i tend to ramble on cuz i usually forget what i was talking about in the first place lol Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take I don't believe in the use of medication for OUR child.....He hasn't needed it as everything we have done for him - supps, gfcfsf diet, secretin, chelation, behavior modification and PATIENCE - has worked for him. I have taken meds before and they made me feel out of sorts and have brain fog. I swore that I wouldn't do that to Gabe. I am wondering to the parents who do have their children on a medicine, have they tried the natural forms of it? One of my friend's children is on the supp. lithium, not the prescribed med that some kids are on. He has a more even keel mood now.... no more crazy mood swings. I would never put my son on meds so that the school can feel more at ease. Never... I would also change schools. No one is going to tell me what to do with MY child. I don't think it is fair to ask if one is a medical doctor...... . I DON"T HAVE MUCH TRUST FOR MEDICAL DOCTORS. After Gabe's diganosis, the trust for them went out the window. Except for our DAN! doctor. I don't know alot of doctors. I do know a TON of parents who do their research and to me, are a thousand more times knowledgable because of their own personable experiences dealing with autism. I have found that my own research and talking with others in my same situation is far better than any medical doctors advice...... . Half the time we are doing "nontraditional treatments", so I could care less what a med. doctor thinks anyways because most of the time our old ped never agreed with anything that we did for Gabe. Like treating colds homeopathically - we always did it, he wanted to treat it with antibiotics. .. every time. Just my opinion. Carlasunrose101aol (DOT) com wrote: I'm of the same opinion of in England, although I have tremendous sympathy for all of us! In a message dated 1/18/2007 12:05:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, afortney74 (DOT) com writes: I disagree with that statement. Every child is different and will act differntlty. Medication can be a very important resource for child who need it. My son had to be placed on medication after I tried every other resouece from counceling to behavoir modification. There was a point where he was so uncontrollabe he was trying to jump out of the car when I would be driving. He would also run out of the house for no reason. Are you a medical Doctor? Rowell <nancyrowellfamily (DOT) plus.com> wrote: Hi Kim,>> my DD was diagnosed at age 5 and is 7 now but is not on anymedication.My son is now 19 and has never had *any* drugs, other than one course of antibiotics for an ear infection, in his whole life. He is currently at the best university in the country.IMO there is an overuse of drugs, trying to 'normalise' kids. ASD is not caused by any chemical imbalance in the brain (as ADHD may be), and the things which can follow from the ASD - like anxiety or depression - are results of being in the wrong social environment, again not as a result of chemical imbalances. Hence drugs for these conditions do not work, or only seem to work for a short time, or make things worse. The best way to 'treat' is to change the social environment to something that is manageable to the person with ASD.>> One dr said unless the school felt it she needed it for class that> they would not do it.If a school told me my child needed drugs or they wouldn't have him in the classroom, then I'd change schools. It is them who need to change to accomodate your child, not your child who needs to be drugged up so they can act 'normal'. in England Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 In a message dated 1/25/2007 5:15:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charper777@... writes: Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. That's not what a psychiatrist said, nor the 27 year old woman on a raw food list. This woman was in anguish from it; her problems exacerbated by it. It causes hair to grow in places it shouldn't and also hair loss where it should be growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I haven't heard this before, that Depokote can cause hair loss. My son has been on it for many years, and we are noticing he has some bald spots on the top of his head. I thought maybe he was just getting bald, but the lady who cut his hair said he wasn't, the hair had just fallen out, but was growing back in. I wonder if it is the Depokote he takes for his seizures... Carolyn Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 It's in the PDR and on the drug reference sites on the web. OTOH, my son does NOT take Depakote, and he is balding at the back of his head at the age of 20! http://www.depakoteer.com/ http://www.drugs.com/depakote.html http://www.medicinenet.com/valproic_acid/article.htm http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a682412.html http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/dival_ad.htm I tend to stick with the sites above, so I know I'm getting medical information. You may freak out at the side effects, but even natural products can cause side effects, including death, although I prefer natural products if I can. You should see the side effects of some of the herbs in my herb encyclopedia, and even if you look at the latest version of " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " (I got it at my local health food store), you'll see warnings for certain supplements. It's a decision you and your doctor/naturopath make together. Let me know if you need a definition of any of the words. The last reference above refers to alopecia - that is hair loss. Theresa Mesa Mesa Design House http://mesadesignhouse.com 909-335-9710 Hours: By appointment only On Jan 25, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Carolyn wrote: > > I haven't heard this before, that Depokote can cause hair loss. My > son has been on it for many years, and we are noticing he has some > bald spots on the top of his head. I thought maybe he was just > getting bald, but the lady who cut his hair said he wasn't, the > hair had just fallen out, but was growing back in. I wonder if it > is the Depokote he takes for his seizures... > Carolyn > > Re: Re: What if any medication does > your child take > > Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in > women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. > > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 My son has depakote and he hasn't lost hair from what I can see. stacie -- Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take I haven't heard this before, that Depokote can cause hair loss. My son has been on it for many years, and we are noticing he has some bald spots on the top of his head. I thought maybe he was just getting bald, but the lady who cut his hair said he wasn't, the hair had just fallen out, but was growing back in. I wonder if it is the Depokote he takes for his seizures... Carolyn Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 My hair got very thin on depakote - however, it didn't have that effect on either of my two girls who have been on it.Carolyn <charper777@...> wrote: I haven't heard this before, that Depokote can cause hair loss. My son has been on it for many years, and we are noticing he has some bald spots on the top of his head. I thought maybe he was just getting bald, but the lady who cut his hair said he wasn't, the hair had just fallen out, but was growing back in. I wonder if it is the Depokote he takes for his seizures... Carolyn Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. . ______________________________________________________________ "I want to be part of the solution. Not part of the agonizing, grinding, boring complacent problem..." Henry Rollins; From "I hate U2" The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 > > I haven't heard this before, that Depokote can cause hair loss. My son has been on it for many years, and we are noticing he has some bald spots on the top of his head. I thought maybe he was just getting bald, but the lady who cut his hair said he wasn't, the hair had just fallen out, but was growing back in. I wonder if it is the Depokote he takes for his seizures... > Carolyn > > Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take > > > Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in > women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. > > > Recent Activity > a.. 12New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 My son is 12 with aspergers. He takes prozac 10mg daily for anxiety and depression. Carolyn <charper777@...> wrote: I haven't heard this before, that Depokote can cause hair loss. My son has been on it for many years, and we are noticing he has some bald spots on the top of his head. I thought maybe he was just getting bald, but the lady who cut his hair said he wasn't, the hair had just fallen out, but was growing back in. I wonder if it is the Depokote he takes for his seizures... Carolyn Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. . Donna Jean Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Tony has been on depakote for 14 years no hair loss The seizure med that causes facial hair stuff was dilanton (sp) Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Yes, Dilantin (phenytoin is the generic name) can cause facial hair. Just because a med can cause a problem doesn't mean it will... Theresa Mesa Mesa Design House http://mesadesignhouse.com 909-335-9710 Hours: By appointment only On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Caudle wrote: > > Tony has been on depakote for 14 years no hair loss The seizure > med that causes facial hair stuff was dilanton (sp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Yes, Dilantin (phenytoin is the generic name) can cause facial hair. Just because a med can cause a problem doesn't mean it will... Theresa Mesa Mesa Design House http://mesadesignhouse.com 909-335-9710 Hours: By appointment only On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Caudle wrote: > > Tony has been on depakote for 14 years no hair loss The seizure > med that causes facial hair stuff was dilanton (sp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I still exist on 3-4 hours of sleep and that is with the kids on meds! Hope before she was medicated literally tried to rip her own eyes out - she is extremely aggressive and bit a teacher until the blood ran. It is the sensory stuff - I tried working with her at home for awhile, but all that did was make me feel more of a failure. We have done behavior modification, ABA, GFCF - you name it. There are some kids who simply NEED to have their medication.My other daughter Sara was sent to school unmedicated at their request, and they tested her attention span at 90 seconds unmedicated - and that was the longest period !!!!I don't think that this is a black and white issue - I am alone on average of 6 months a year, and try as I might with charts etc *(which by the way we use successfully now) and behavior mod - when they all get going I cringe - it is like living in a madhouse. They are all medicated now - the daughter with AS/ADD/ODD and TS - for sleep and depression only, the adhd/bp child and the little one with Autism, I am bipolar/ocd/adhd and without medication I am completely out of control - I wasn't on medication until I was 25 or 26 and have taken two "med breaks" and at that point, I couldn't even stand to be around me - I was constantly angry, had no patience, was agitated and literally confused constantly - then I would crash and end up in bed for 2-3 weeks with low grade fevers, throwing up etc., my body couldn't stand the stress of being so agitated constantly and I would get sick from it. My husband has stated flat out that if I ever stop my meds again I would need to leave - period. With medication I function VERY well - I work 40+ hours a week, keep a clean house with two dogs/cats/hamsters/bearded dragons - a lot of work! Work with my two AS kids and the one with ADHD, I am able to take things in stride - I deal with a lot - and all i can share is my individual experience.Jenvickie <blackfoot124@...> wrote: i have tried melatonin for sleep (which did nothing) and someother thing for focus nothing also (forget the name for it was awhile ago.) i needed to give mine the meds which help but he metabolises things real quick.so not long lasting .my son if not on meds can literally destroy a house (holes in walls kicking furniture moving furniture knckoing things over ) i know there are behaviors thing u can do but i cant do alot i am one person and i also have 4 kids when he was first diagnosed(at 4) he was diagnosed adhd he was non stop movement and no sleep he existed on maybe 3 hrs sleep they didnt prescribe sleep meds then but did rx dexdrine which only helped for a few finding a med to help him is very hard to do .he pretty much has to take a cocktail to get a better mood he is mr hfautism adhd odd and suffers anxiety he takes half a clonidine ,.5repiradol,and 54 mg conderta in the am hafl of a conidine at 330 and 1 and a half clonidine and a 1. respiradal at 6 for bed if he didnt he would not sleep his bosy does not let him calm down enough to sleep. it is hard for me to do a diet thing for he would not eat anything for so long the kid existed on maybe a bite of dinner and nothing for breakfast and maybe a bite at lunch i was shocked he acutally grew for how much he actually ate him and my other son were the same way with eating and they did not eat meat til about well michael(11) who i am referring to til about 6 and my derek (he is 13)around a yr and a half ago did he start to finally eat meat (his muscles in the mouth were not formed good enough to be able to chew the meat enough to swallow so he never could eat it ) diets are very hard like i said also cuz we do not have money to buy food we get food stamps but not much and most of the healthy food and so forth is to much money(like organicly grown ,with out added what ever all of that we are already on diets for high cholesterol).and the fact i have 4 kids and i would have to change everyones diet big time i do cut out things i know arnt good for u like junk food .and the likes .now michael also gets into foods he has to have he loves nurtigrain bars ,and penut butter,jelly,pop tarts all of which i buy the generic of most of it is also like a i need it to go to sleep thing like at bedtime he will make a bowl of peanut butter to eat or a bowl of jelly not a sandwich or anything like that a bowl of it ) .but that is basically all i have tried concerning diets .and natural meds oh i have also tried chamomile tea and bathsoap and lotion to relax and massage wouldnt let me do the massage said it tickeld lol and nothing happend with the tea didnt make him calm or anyuthing .i like to do aromatherapy and stuff like the coors and so forth not to use in a bedroom and taking things(colors out of the room that would make u alert.anything makes him alert lol plus he wont sleep in his room he has to be near me to sleep he wont sleep away from me i have struggled with bedtime and sleep since age 1 1/2.any ideas on that would be greatly appreciated . god sorry about the book i tend to ramble on cuz i usually forget what i was talking about in the first place lol Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take I don't believe in the use of medication for OUR child.....He hasn't needed it as everything we have done for him - supps, gfcfsf diet, secretin, chelation, behavior modification and PATIENCE - has worked for him. I have taken meds before and they made me feel out of sorts and have brain fog. I swore that I wouldn't do that to Gabe. I am wondering to the parents who do have their children on a medicine, have they tried the natural forms of it? One of my friend's children is on the supp. lithium, not the prescribed med that some kids are on. He has a more even keel mood now.... no more crazy mood swings. I would never put my son on meds so that the school can feel more at ease. Never... I would also change schools. No one is going to tell me what to do with MY child. I don't think it is fair to ask if one is a medical doctor...... . I DON"T HAVE MUCH TRUST FOR MEDICAL DOCTORS. After Gabe's diganosis, the trust for them went out the window. Except for our DAN! doctor. I don't know alot of doctors. I do know a TON of parents who do their research and to me, are a thousand more times knowledgable because of their own personable experiences dealing with autism. I have found that my own research and talking with others in my same situation is far better than any medical doctors advice...... . Half the time we are doing "nontraditional treatments", so I could care less what a med. doctor thinks anyways because most of the time our old ped never agreed with anything that we did for Gabe. Like treating colds homeopathically - we always did it, he wanted to treat it with antibiotics. .. every time. Just my opinion. Carlasunrose101aol (DOT) com wrote: I'm of the same opinion of in England, although I have tremendous sympathy for all of us! In a message dated 1/18/2007 12:05:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, afortney74 (DOT) com writes: I disagree with that statement. Every child is different and will act differntlty. Medication can be a very important resource for child who need it. My son had to be placed on medication after I tried every other resouece from counceling to behavoir modification. There was a point where he was so uncontrollabe he was trying to jump out of the car when I would be driving. He would also run out of the house for no reason. Are you a medical Doctor? Rowell <nancyrowellfamily (DOT) plus.com> wrote: Hi Kim,>> my DD was diagnosed at age 5 and is 7 now but is not on anymedication.My son is now 19 and has never had *any* drugs, other than one course of antibiotics for an ear infection, in his whole life. He is currently at the best university in the country.IMO there is an overuse of drugs, trying to 'normalise' kids. ASD is not caused by any chemical imbalance in the brain (as ADHD may be), and the things which can follow from the ASD - like anxiety or depression - are results of being in the wrong social environment, again not as a result of chemical imbalances. Hence drugs for these conditions do not work, or only seem to work for a short time, or make things worse. The best way to 'treat' is to change the social environment to something that is manageable to the person with ASD.>> One dr said unless the school felt it she needed it for class that> they would not do it.If a school told me my child needed drugs or they wouldn't have him in the classroom, then I'd change schools. It is them who need to change to accomodate your child, not your child who needs to be drugged up so they can act 'normal'. in England Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. ______________________________________________________________ "I want to be part of the solution. Not part of the agonizing, grinding, boring complacent problem..." Henry Rollins; From "I hate U2" Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Dilanton is what my friend is on and she actually has to shave her face. stacie -- Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Tony has been on depakote for 14 years no hair loss The seizure med that causes facial hair stuff was dilanton (sp) Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi, Depakote (sodium valproate/Epilim/Valproic acid) can cause hair loss, but it tends to grow back again and is curlier. It happened with my hair… Taking it during pregnancy left both children with Fetal Valproate syndrome, which has been shown to be a related factor in autism. My two had the genetic side from me, plus the added insult from FVS. Oh well… Regards NAncy From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Caudle Sent: 27 January 2007 05:32 Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Tony has been on depakote for 14 years no hair loss The seizure med that causes facial hair stuff was dilanton (sp) Re: Re: What if any medication does your child take Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I know what the PDR says. In my experience (I've been at this for 16 years), many doctors and psychiatrists get confused or just don't know enough about meds AND supplements, which is why some of them still say Risperidal, instead of Risperdal (risperidone). My mom is a registered nurse, and I've read her nursing mags, especially the articles that tell of doctor's confusion about medications, and how many people die every year because the wrong medication was prescribed, and because pharmacists didn't recognize the doctor's handwriting. Pharmacists have to call doctors all the time because the doctor wrote scrips for meds with instructions that didn't make sense for that medication. Medication confusion happens all the time. I gave you several links to the medication, none of which mentions hair growth, but almost all of which mention hair loss. I also know that the word Depakote could easily be confused with Dilantin. I also know that lay people get confused about medications ALL the time. Theresa Mesa Mesa Design House http://mesadesignhouse.com 909-335-9710 Hours: By appointment only On Jan 25, 2007, at 2:45 PM, sunrose101@... wrote: > In a message dated 1/25/2007 5:15:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > charper777@... writes: > Actually, there's no indication that depakote can cause beards in > women. It can, however, cause varying degrees of hair LOSS. > That's not what a psychiatrist said, nor the 27 year old woman on a > raw food list. This woman was in anguish from it; her problems > exacerbated by it. It causes hair to grow in places it shouldn't > and also hair loss where it should be growing. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 We give Hope all of her medications at night - she takes abilify, tenex and DPPT (I don't know if that is right but it is for night time "accidents". Since we added the abilify at night she sleeps like a ROCK! With my adhd daughter - well, she has never slept through the night and she is 9! We have tried melatonin you name it - the only thing that really helps (1-2 x per night up as opposed to every hour) is Benadryl 50mg at bedtime. Caudle <cindyc@...> wrote: what sleep meds have you tried? nothing is working for us he goes to sleep but doesn't stay asleep. ______________________________________________________________ "I want to be part of the solution. Not part of the agonizing, grinding, boring complacent problem..." Henry Rollins; From "I hate U2" Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Dear Theresa, While I am no fan of the medical profession or of drugs, I certainly know the difference between the words depakote (which I had never heard of, not having used drugs for my daughter in all these years) and dilantin, which some doctor put her on as an experiment as an infant (and although that's a long time ago, I seem to remember that hair loss is a side effect of dilantin). It's depakote, and the girl talking about growing a beard certainly knew what drug she was taking. As does the psychiatrist when I questioned him about depakote and hair. He was instantly familiar with it. Whether it's mentioned or not, it certainly would be an awful thing for any female to take a chance on taking, in my opinion. And isn't it Risperdal that can cause supposedly incurable tics? Francine In a message dated 1/31/2007 11:28:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clanmesa@... writes: I know what the PDR says. In my experience (I've been at this for 16 years), many doctors and psychiatrists get confused or just don't know enough about meds AND supplements, which is why some of them still say Risperidal, instead of Risperdal (risperidone). My mom is a registered nurse, and I've read her nursing mags, especially the articles that tell of doctor's confusion about medications, and how many people die every year because the wrong medication was prescribed, and because pharmacists didn't recognize the doctor's handwriting. Pharmacists have to call doctors all the time because the doctor wrote scrips for meds with instructions that didn't make sense for that medication. Medication confusion happens all the time.I gave you several links to the medication, none of which mentions hair growth, but almost all of which mention hair loss.I also know that the word Depakote could easily be confused with Dilantin.I also know that lay people get confused about medications ALL the time.Theresa MesaMesa Design House Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 You'll see my other post acknowledging what you wrote about Depakote, and explaining what Depakote is causing in about 5% of the female population. Risperdal can cause tardive diskinesia, which is not incurable tics. Risperdal is used to treat tics, among other things. Tardive diskinesia is closer to Parkinson's disease, although it is not actually Parkinson's. We had to back off on my son's Risperdal because he was starting to show evidence of TD. TD is often permanent, but can be short-lived. However, he has severe Tourette syndrome, and his tics are so bad they can be very physically painful, and he also has a toe-tapping tic which makes him take a few steps, tap the tip of one foot to the ground twice, then tap the tip of the other foot to the ground twice, and so on. We've gone through more pairs of shoes, cheap and expensive alike, because he wears the front of the soles down right through the leather of the toe. This is better than the rabbit- hopping tic he used to have, or the coprolalia (uncontrollable swearing or gutter language) he used to have. Theresa Mesa Mesa Design House http://mesadesignhouse.com 909-335-9710 Hours: By appointment only On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:24 AM, sunrose101@... wrote: > Dear Theresa, > > While I am no fan of the medical profession or of drugs, I > certainly know the difference between the words depakote (which I > had never heard of, not having used drugs for my daughter in all > these years) and dilantin, which some doctor put her on as an > experiment as an infant (and although that's a long time ago, I > seem to remember that hair loss is a side effect of dilantin). > > It's depakote, and the girl talking about growing a beard certainly > knew what drug she was taking. As does the psychiatrist when I > questioned him about depakote and hair. He was instantly familiar > with it. > > Whether it's mentioned or not, it certainly would be an awful thing > for any female to take a chance on taking, in my opinion. > > And isn't it Risperdal that can cause supposedly incurable tics? > > Francine > > In a message dated 1/31/2007 11:28:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > clanmesa@... writes: > I know what the PDR says. In my experience (I've been at this for 16 > years), many doctors and psychiatrists get confused or just don't > know enough about meds AND supplements, which is why some of them > still say Risperidal, instead of Risperdal (risperidone). My mom is a > registered nurse, and I've read her nursing mags, especially the > articles that tell of doctor's confusion about medications, and how > many people die every year because the wrong medication was > prescribed, and because pharmacists didn't recognize the doctor's > handwriting. Pharmacists have to call doctors all the time because > the doctor wrote scrips for meds with instructions that didn't make > sense for that medication. Medication confusion happens all the time. > > I gave you several links to the medication, none of which mentions > hair growth, but almost all of which mention hair loss. > > I also know that the word Depakote could easily be confused with > Dilantin. > > I also know that lay people get confused about medications ALL the > time. > > Theresa Mesa > Mesa Design House > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 You'll see my other post acknowledging what you wrote about Depakote, and explaining what Depakote is causing in about 5% of the female population. Risperdal can cause tardive diskinesia, which is not incurable tics. Risperdal is used to treat tics, among other things. Tardive diskinesia is closer to Parkinson's disease, although it is not actually Parkinson's. We had to back off on my son's Risperdal because he was starting to show evidence of TD. TD is often permanent, but can be short-lived. However, he has severe Tourette syndrome, and his tics are so bad they can be very physically painful, and he also has a toe-tapping tic which makes him take a few steps, tap the tip of one foot to the ground twice, then tap the tip of the other foot to the ground twice, and so on. We've gone through more pairs of shoes, cheap and expensive alike, because he wears the front of the soles down right through the leather of the toe. This is better than the rabbit- hopping tic he used to have, or the coprolalia (uncontrollable swearing or gutter language) he used to have. Theresa Mesa Mesa Design House http://mesadesignhouse.com 909-335-9710 Hours: By appointment only On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:24 AM, sunrose101@... wrote: > Dear Theresa, > > While I am no fan of the medical profession or of drugs, I > certainly know the difference between the words depakote (which I > had never heard of, not having used drugs for my daughter in all > these years) and dilantin, which some doctor put her on as an > experiment as an infant (and although that's a long time ago, I > seem to remember that hair loss is a side effect of dilantin). > > It's depakote, and the girl talking about growing a beard certainly > knew what drug she was taking. As does the psychiatrist when I > questioned him about depakote and hair. He was instantly familiar > with it. > > Whether it's mentioned or not, it certainly would be an awful thing > for any female to take a chance on taking, in my opinion. > > And isn't it Risperdal that can cause supposedly incurable tics? > > Francine > > In a message dated 1/31/2007 11:28:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > clanmesa@... writes: > I know what the PDR says. In my experience (I've been at this for 16 > years), many doctors and psychiatrists get confused or just don't > know enough about meds AND supplements, which is why some of them > still say Risperidal, instead of Risperdal (risperidone). My mom is a > registered nurse, and I've read her nursing mags, especially the > articles that tell of doctor's confusion about medications, and how > many people die every year because the wrong medication was > prescribed, and because pharmacists didn't recognize the doctor's > handwriting. Pharmacists have to call doctors all the time because > the doctor wrote scrips for meds with instructions that didn't make > sense for that medication. Medication confusion happens all the time. > > I gave you several links to the medication, none of which mentions > hair growth, but almost all of which mention hair loss. > > I also know that the word Depakote could easily be confused with > Dilantin. > > I also know that lay people get confused about medications ALL the > time. > > Theresa Mesa > Mesa Design House > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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