Re: wetting through diapers & extreme pain response

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3 years old isn't that old to not be potty trained.

I have a 3 year old son (neuro-typical) and he just has no interest in potty training. They make products called "diaper doublers" that might help. Either that or put 2 diapers on him (one on top of the other)...if he'll let you

My now 7 year old mildly autistic son wasn't potty trained until he was just over 5 years old.

To save your mattress you could get some of those crib pads to put under the mattress. I have an elderly grandfather with "issues" and that is what they use for their bed.

Best of luck.

wetting through diapers & extreme pain response

Hi-I have a three-year-old autistic son and he is not potty trained yet (a lot of sensory issues.) He has had a lot of nightmares and because of language delay and not liking to be touched there is very little I can do for him besides letting him sleep in my bed. The problem is he wets through his diapers a lot. He does hold his urine and that is what makes it harder to catch in a diaper. I have tried night diapers and everything without luck. I have tried mattress pads but the small ones slide around and I have a king size bed that is memory foam so Im limited to the types of mattress pads I use on the entire surface. Does anyone have any suggestions for protecting my my kiddo from getting wet and my mattress? I was hoping there was something I could put on my son to help so no matter where he sleeps there is added protection. There is an additional problem with his sensory issues. He is both hyper & hypo. Most times he doesn't know he is wet or poopy, but sometimes when he wets through (even if he isn't asleep) he screams in pain for about an hour clutching the area where he was wet. The first time I almost rushed him to the emergency room! Poor kid actually feels pain. Luckily this has only happened a couple of times. We have been through brush therapy and he had one adverse reaction where he cried that it hurt and he couldn't use his legs for three hours! They actually gave out on him when he tried to walk. He was so scared and I finally got him to zone out in front of the TV to get his mind off the fact he couldn't walk (happened once even though I continued brush therapy.) He had an MRI and everything was normal. No one has ever heard of this happening, but it seems to go hand-in-hand with his sporadic response to being wet where the urine leaked out of his diaper. Im wondering if anyone has any idea on keeping him 'dry' especially at night? Also, anyone had to deal with any of these extreme pain responses to simple stimuli? It has only happened a few times, but I can't help but wonder if there is something really out of whack that it is so extreme even if it doesn't happen very often. People have asked if he is faking the pain. He is 3 and delayed--no he isn't faking. Also, a parent knows when their kid is truly in pain and my little guy is very much in pain during these episodes. It is heart wrenching to see him like that! Any help or ideas are greatly appreciated.ThanksAngie

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Have you ever heard of Abilitations .com it is a special needs store on line. They have lots of different types of things for children with sensory issues. I have a magazine of Abilitions and found that they have Bedwetting pants. I don't know if you had tried this. I'll give you the phone number 1-800-850-8602. They also have other toilet sensory products. My daughter has a lot of sensory issues. I bought her a fabric tunnel which give her deep persure. Which she needs a lot. Also she is three and isn't potty trained due to the fact that her language is severly impaired. Well I hope this might help you. Good LuckAngie <kayak_krazi@...> wrote: Hi-I have a three-year-old autistic son and he is not potty trained yet (a lot of sensory issues.) He has had a lot of nightmares and because of language delay and not liking to be touched there is very little I can do for him besides letting him sleep in my bed. The problem is he wets through his diapers a lot. He does hold his urine and that is what makes it harder to catch in a diaper. I have tried night diapers and everything without luck. I have tried mattress pads but the small ones slide around and I have a king size bed that is memory foam so Im limited to the types of mattress pads I use on the entire surface. Does anyone have any suggestions for protecting my my kiddo from getting wet and my mattress? I was hoping there was something I could put on my son to help so no matter where he

sleeps there is added protection. There is an additional problem with his sensory issues. He is both hyper & hypo. Most times he doesn't know he is wet or poopy, but sometimes when he wets through (even if he isn't asleep) he screams in pain for about an hour clutching the area where he was wet. The first time I almost rushed him to the emergency room! Poor kid actually feels pain. Luckily this has only happened a couple of times. We have been through brush therapy and he had one adverse reaction where he cried that it hurt and he couldn't use his legs for three hours! They actually gave out on him when he tried to walk. He was so scared and I finally got him to zone out in front of the TV to get his mind off the fact he couldn't walk (happened once even though I continued brush therapy.) He had an MRI and everything was normal. No one has ever heard of this happening, but it seems to go hand-in-hand with his sporadic response to

being wet where the urine leaked out of his diaper. Im wondering if anyone has any idea on keeping him 'dry' especially at night? Also, anyone had to deal with any of these extreme pain responses to simple stimuli? It has only happened a few times, but I can't help but wonder if there is something really out of whack that it is so extreme even if it doesn't happen very often. People have asked if he is faking the pain. He is 3 and delayed--no he isn't faking. Also, a parent knows when their kid is truly in pain and my little guy is very much in pain during these episodes. It is heart wrenching to see him like that! Any help or ideas are greatly appreciated.ThanksAngieAlly __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

> The

> Does anyone have any suggestions for protecting my my kiddo from

getting wet

> and my mattress? I was hoping there was something I could put on

my son to help so no

> matter where he sleeps there is added protection.

Hi Angie,

I heard of a product at Babies R Us. It's an extra pad that goes

between baby and diaper to add extra absorbant material during the

night. My friend has used it with her son. She describes it as being

like a large maxi pad. With my three-year-old, I have found that

putting him in a larger diaper at night helps reduce wetting

through. You might want to try a combination of these approaches.

As for the mattress- you might want to try an inexpensive vinyl

matterss encasement. I bought one at Target for about $10. (We use

it as an allergen barrier.) Not sure how that will work with the

memory foam...

My final idea on the subject: I've heard there is medication

children can take to keep them dry at night. I have no direct

experience of this so I can't really recommend it. Maybe someone

else in the group has heard of this or used it...

Good luck and best wishes for a wonderful 2007!

[Guest guest]

Look on line at abilitations.com they have some products for bed wetting.nighthockey27 <nighthockey27@...> wrote: >> The > Does anyone have any suggestions for protecting my my kiddo from getting wet > and my mattress? I was hoping there was something I could put on my son to help so no > matter where he sleeps there is

added protection. Hi Angie,I heard of a product at Babies R Us. It's an extra pad that goes between baby and diaper to add extra absorbant material during the night. My friend has used it with her son. She describes it as being like a large maxi pad. With my three-year-old, I have found that putting him in a larger diaper at night helps reduce wetting through. You might want to try a combination of these approaches.As for the mattress- you might want to try an inexpensive vinyl matterss encasement. I bought one at Target for about $10. (We use it as an allergen barrier.) Not sure how that will work with the memory foam...My final idea on the subject: I've heard there is medication children can take to keep them dry at night. I have no direct experience of this so I can't really recommend it. Maybe someone else in the group has heard of this or used it...Good luck and best wishes for a

wonderful 2007!Ally __________________________________________________

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My son wet his bed into his teens. He took DDAVP for it, and it

worked great, as long as he took it. He experienced no side effects,

but there definitely are side effects, and the med is used as a last

resort. He eventually grew out of it in mid-high school.

http://www.webmd.com/hw/raising_a_family/hw213188.asp

Theresa

On Dec 27, 2006, at 1:13 PM, nighthockey27 wrote:

>

> >

> > The

> > Does anyone have any suggestions for protecting my my kiddo from

> getting wet

> > and my mattress? I was hoping there was something I could put on

> my son to help so no

> > matter where he sleeps there is added protection.

>

> Hi Angie,

>

> I heard of a product at Babies R Us. It's an extra pad that goes

> between baby and diaper to add extra absorbant material during the

> night. My friend has used it with her son. She describes it as being

> like a large maxi pad. With my three-year-old, I have found that

> putting him in a larger diaper at night helps reduce wetting

> through. You might want to try a combination of these approaches.

>

> As for the mattress- you might want to try an inexpensive vinyl

> matterss encasement. I bought one at Target for about $10. (We use

> it as an allergen barrier.) Not sure how that will work with the

> memory foam...

>

> My final idea on the subject: I've heard there is medication

> children can take to keep them dry at night. I have no direct

> experience of this so I can't really recommend it. Maybe someone

> else in the group has heard of this or used it...

>

> Good luck and best wishes for a wonderful 2007!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our 10 year old, adopted, autistic son is still not potty

trained by day or night. We have to use three layers of cloth diapers in

a youth size with plastic pants to keep him dry at night and an adult small

diaper with a diaper double for daytime dryness. He not only has sensory

issues, but was the victim of several drowning attempts by his biological family

and he won’t go near the toilet, bath or shower. Medicaid pays for

the disposable diapers from HDIS.com, but for cloth and plastic pants we use

adultclothdiaper.com – they also carry some very good mattress protectors.

The diaper doublers can be found at Albertson’s, Safeway,

Toys/BabiesRus, and some other grocery chain stores.

The medications for bedwetting children are not meant for

children who are not potty trained. One of the medications used – DDAVP --

is a steroid that reduces nighttime urine output, but eventually it will wear

off and the child will produce larger amounts of urine in the daytime. It

is also very expensive and works only as long as it is taken.

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for all your helpful advice. Im going to try double diapers and

maybe the

pants. I think a regular diaper under a night time diaper might do the trick.

Maybe even

the pressure of some tight pant might help. Its definitely helpful to have so

many ideas if

the first don't work!

Thanks again

Happy New Year

Angie

> >

> > The

> > Does anyone have any suggestions for protecting my my kiddo from

> getting wet

> > and my mattress? I was hoping there was something I could put on

> my son to help so no

> > matter where he sleeps there is added protection.

>

> Hi Angie,

>

> I heard of a product at Babies R Us. It's an extra pad that goes

> between baby and diaper to add extra absorbant material during the

> night. My friend has used it with her son. She describes it as being

> like a large maxi pad. With my three-year-old, I have found that

> putting him in a larger diaper at night helps reduce wetting

> through. You might want to try a combination of these approaches.

>

> As for the mattress- you might want to try an inexpensive vinyl

> matterss encasement. I bought one at Target for about $10. (We use

> it as an allergen barrier.) Not sure how that will work with the

> memory foam...

>

> My final idea on the subject: I've heard there is medication

> children can take to keep them dry at night. I have no direct

> experience of this so I can't really recommend it. Maybe someone

> else in the group has heard of this or used it...

>

> Good luck and best wishes for a wonderful 2007!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Ally

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

That is what Hope takes - works like a charm - thankfully she hasn't experienced any side effects at all!Theresa Mesa <clanmesa@...> wrote: My son wet his bed into his teens. He took DDAVP for it, and it worked great, as long as he took it. He experienced no side effects, but there definitely are side effects, and the med is used as a last resort. He eventually grew out of it in mid-high school.http://www.webmd.com/hw/raising_a_family/hw213188.aspTheresaOn Dec 27, 2006, at 1:13 PM, nighthockey27 wrote:> > >> > The> > Does anyone have any suggestions for protecting my my kiddo from> getting wet> > and my mattress? I was hoping there was something I could put on> my son to help so no> > matter where he sleeps there is added protection.>> Hi Angie,>> I heard of a product at Babies R Us. It's an extra pad that goes> between baby and diaper to add extra absorbant material during the> night. My friend has used it with her son. She describes it as being> like a large maxi pad. With my

three-year-old, I have found that> putting him in a larger diaper at night helps reduce wetting> through. You might want to try a combination of these approaches.>> As for the mattress- you might want to try an inexpensive vinyl> matterss encasement. I bought one at Target for about $10. (We use> it as an allergen barrier.) Not sure how that will work with the> memory foam...>> My final idea on the subject: I've heard there is medication> children can take to keep them dry at night. I have no direct> experience of this so I can't really recommend it. Maybe someone> else in the group has heard of this or used it...>> Good luck and best wishes for a wonderful 2007!> >>> "I want to be part of the solution. Not part of the agonizing, grinding, boring complacent problem..."

Henry Rollins; From "I hate U2" __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

DDAVP is not a steroid. It's desmopressin, similar to a *hormone* in

the body that helps with the amount of urine that is produced at

different times of the day.

On Dec 29, 2006, at 9:48 AM, T wrote:

>

>

>

> Our 10 year old, adopted, autistic son is still not potty trained

> by day or night. We have to use three layers of cloth diapers in a

> youth size with plastic pants to keep him dry at night and an adult

> small diaper with a diaper double for daytime dryness. He not only

> has sensory issues, but was the victim of several drowning attempts

> by his biological family and he won’t go near the toilet, bath or

> shower. Medicaid pays for the disposable diapers from HDIS.com,

> but for cloth and plastic pants we use adultclothdiaper.com – they

> also carry some very good mattress protectors. The diaper doublers

> can be found at Albertson’s, Safeway, Toys/BabiesRus, and some

> other grocery chain stores.

>

>

>

> The medications for bedwetting children are not meant for children

> who are not potty trained. One of the medications used – DDAVP --

> is a steroid that reduces nighttime urine output, but eventually it

> will wear off and the child will produce larger amounts of urine in

> the daytime. It is also very expensive and works only as long as

> it is taken.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Honey before bedtime is a remedy. The best honey we've ever tasted is something called Really Raw. It's thick and you can really suck on a spoonful. Tastes great.

I know. My kids peed right through a thick mattress.

I've heard there is medication

> children can take to keep them dry at night. I have no direct

> experience of this so I can't really recommend it. Maybe someone

> else in the group has heard of this or used it...

>

> Good luck and best wishes for a wonderful 2007!

>

>

>

>

"I want to be part of the solution. Not part of the agonizing, grinding, boring complacent problem..."

Henry Rollins; From "I hate U2"

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[Guest guest]

So honey helps with night wetting?

I've heard there is medication> children can take to keep them dry at night. I have no direct> experience of this so I can't really recommend it. Maybe someone> else in the group has heard of this or used it...>> Good luck and best wishes for a wonderful 2007!> >>>

"I want to be part of the solution. Not part of the agonizing, grinding, boring complacent problem..."

Henry Rollins; From "I hate U2" __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Our 11 year old adopted son with profound autism is also not trained either day

or night. We use Huggies Goodnights Diapers in L/XL. He rarely wets through

these, but has if we don't change him often enough.

--

Jenna

Wife to wonderful DH and loving mother to 7 wonderful blessings!

---- T <jayjaycub@...> wrote:

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Our 10 year old, adopted, autistic son is still not potty trained by day or

night. We have to use three layers of cloth diapers in a youth size with

plastic pants to keep him dry at night and an adult small diaper with a

diaper double for daytime dryness. He not only has sensory issues, but was

the victim of several drowning attempts by his biological family and he

won't go near the toilet, bath or shower. Medicaid pays for the disposable

diapers from HDIS.com, but for cloth and plastic pants we use

adultclothdiaper.com - they also carry some very good mattress protectors.

The diaper doublers can be found at Albertson's, Safeway, Toys/BabiesRus,

and some other grocery chain stores.

The medications for bedwetting children are not meant for children who are

not potty trained. One of the medications used - DDAVP -- is a steroid that

reduces nighttime urine output, but eventually it will wear off and the

child will produce larger amounts of urine in the daytime. It is also very

expensive and works only as long as it is taken.

[Guest guest]

DDAVP has been a G-dsend for us!!! Hope was getting increasingly frustrated, and we have found that (when we ran out for 2 weeks) she was able to have only one accident. The doctor told us that having her on this will help train neural pathways... It is not a steroid - and it is not expensive - a $3.00 copay. Hope has been on it for around a year - and may need it for another 1-2. Also, she doesn't go frequently during the day at all. Theresa Mesa <clanmesa@...> wrote: DDAVP is not a steroid. It's desmopressin, similar to a *hormone* in the body that helps with the amount of urine that is produced at different times of the day.On Dec 29, 2006, at 9:48 AM, T wrote:>>>> Our 10 year old, adopted,

autistic son is still not potty trained > by day or night. We have to use three layers of cloth diapers in a > youth size with plastic pants to keep him dry at night and an adult > small diaper with a diaper double for daytime dryness. He not only > has sensory issues, but was the victim of several drowning attempts > by his biological family and he won’t go near the toilet, bath or > shower. Medicaid pays for the disposable diapers from HDIS.com, > but for cloth and plastic pants we use adultclothdiaper.com – they > also carry some very good mattress protectors. The diaper doublers > can be found at Albertson’s, Safeway, Toys/BabiesRus, and some > other grocery chain stores.>>>> The medications for bedwetting children are not meant for children > who are not potty trained. One of the medications used – DDAVP -- > is a steroid that reduces nighttime urine output,

but eventually it > will wear off and the child will produce larger amounts of urine in > the daytime. It is also very expensive and works only as long as > it is taken.>> >>