Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 obie in the introduction of aajonus vonderplanitz' book 'we want to live' there is a story of him helping his son recover fully from a coma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Update About My Dear Lady > Optimistic Greetings from Obie: > > Max-z is in her 6th week of her coma, all her vitals are near perfect, she > is doing well and the Hospital continues to take wonderful care of her. > They have weaned her from the Ventilator, she is now accustomed to the Trac > tube in her throat, she is breathing normally through it, the Doctor thinks > she cannot originate the swallow response well enough quite yet and will not > order the Trac removed yet. The Doctors all agree that she will not get any > better than she is presently and continue to urge me to " ...pull the plug " > which I perceive as -- well I'm not gong to say it but I'm continuing to > refuse to do that to her. I know she would never do that to me. > > Friday, the Nurse called me and said " The Aide went into her room and told > her that we are down one Aide and no one can come in right now and help her > turn Ms. Max-z so she had to do it by herself so she said to her Maxine, > Honey, you need to help me with this, come on, Honey, help me and she said > Max used her own muscles and helped the Aide turn her over for her bath. " > Brain dead, huh? Well, nobody turns themselves over, even partially, with > no brain. > > Let me ask you a couple questions regarding her condition. Do we know if > the body can rebuild brain cells following damage for a lack of Oxygen? > And Max-z now has a Thrush condition appearing in her mouth. I know it's > because of an imbalance in her good bacteria-bad bacteria. Can anyone say > if there is any cure for this other than Acidophifilus [sp], etc, and > balancing them, please; should I give her something else for this fungus? > Also, her saliva pH was 5.5 and I'm going to give her Cod Liver Oil to bring > that up unless you can suggest something better. > > Now, I'm curious about her Thyroid. Is there anything natural for her > Thyroid, please? They have her on Synthroid and I'd rather use bovine > granules but don't want to use the normal Pork granules; don't know of > anything natural. Please suggest something for this if it exists. > > So you'll know, because of the conflict for me between taking her to a > Nursing Home versus taking her to our home, I asked the Master for help and, > quite out of the blue, Dr. Abbott, an ND, called asking to bring a 38' > RV, park it on our place and care for our Lady. Think God doesn't answer > those who serve Him? I hate the thought of just dumping her somewhere. > > Also, I organized a Trust for Maxine because several individuals asked to > help with her care. I mean, lots of us want to have a part in this but we > just can't leave our own life to come to Arkansas. To transport her back to > Texas, near Austin, is estimated at $5,000 just for the Ambulance both ways, > the equipment that will accompany her and the RN with her in case she needs > help. I think I'm going to be forced to keep her in Arkansas. We'll be all > alone but I can't pay for the transport. > > The Home Health Service can provide 1 RN for 1 hour per day and an Aide for > 2 hours per day. Without help, I'll be alone with her for 21 hours each day > and she needs more care than that. If you're able to help, please make > your check to " Medical Trust for Maxine " and the Trustee is Ms. Lee Burt, > Post Office Box 1701, Bastrop, Texas, 78601, [512] 321-5434. And please > know that I've made a personal commitment to Maxine. I'm going to stay by > her, provide for her as I'm able and I'm not pulling any plug on my Lady; > it's for better or worse, come what may. And I fully expect her to come out > of this; just going to take longer. > > Forgive me for not replying yet, I will soon. And I'm not giving into > Battle Fatigue. I'm Obie, taking care of his Lady. . . . . .lovin' it! Hello Obie. Thank you for reporting about Maxine. I am very moved to hear about her/your experiences and your response to events around you. I have a few suggestions. Do you know about the Bach Flower remedies? They were developed by Dr. Bach, a British physician who went into the countryside and made remedies primarily of flowers. He created something called " Rescue Remedy " which is a combination of 5 plants. The books I have about the Bach Flower remedies say that Rescue Remedy is quite effective for people in comas! All you have to do is buy a stock bottle for about $8.00 from the health food store. You then put 8 drops of the mother tincture into a separate dropper bottle, and fill it up with spring water and something to preserve it so it doesn't go bad. Some people use pure grain alcohol or brandy; others use colloidal silver. Colloidal silver might help with the thrush in her mouth, too. You can drop the Rescue Remedy into her mouth or on her lips at regular intervals. It is very gentle: it will not harm her in any way and it doesn't interfere with medications (unless it's to make them unnecessary). Rescue Remedy will also help with the shock. Regarding the thrush problem and her thyroid: You can address both issues with iodine tincture. Iodine will help speed up the thyroid (it is literally starving for iodine), and as it is a superb antiseptic, it can also help fight the fungus. I personally use atomic (colloidal) iodine, made as Edgar Cayce instructed, as it's more bioavailable to the body and cannot toxify the system as Lugol's solution will eventually do if taken in excess. Atomic iodine is available from a source that you can find on my website. Or, you can look up " Cayce Iodine " on the net -- but whatever you do, don't purchase it from the Heritage Store, for although it sells other Cayce products, its iodine is NOT made according to the Cayce recipe. Of course, if you can't obtain the atomic iodine, a dilute solution of Lugol's will do in a pinch and it will nourish the thyroid (just make sure she doesn't get too much). Regarding getting too much iodine, you can read an article on the Skin Patch Test on my website as well, under " Essays " and then under " Holistic Health. " You can also augment her thyroid support with glandular thyroid. Inner Light, Standard Process, and Metagenics are just a few companies that sell thyroid glandular. Be aware that since they ARE glandulars, there will be some animal tissue in the product. Inner Light uses the least amount of animal tissue, and augments its capsule with cell salts and herbs. I will obtain the combination thyroid-pituitary caps for you at cost if you want them; although the glandulars from other companies are good too. Regarding rebuilding nerve and brain cells: Doctors used to say it wasn't possible. Now they are finding that it IS possible. A 660-nanometer (red) LED light stimulates cells of whatever type to regenerate. Such a light has been shown to travel along the meridians. The Light Energy Company in Seattle (phone: 800-LIGHTCO) manufactures some excellent LED lights that go into the tissues quite deeply. If you call them, ask to speak to Pam about how she fully recovered super fast from a stroke because her husband was in the operating room during her surgery, shining an LED into her brain. (Tell them I sent you, so she'll know how you knew the story.) Finally, you might consider EFT, an emotional/energetic method of healing. You can do it vicariously for Maxine. I used it on my dog, who could not tap on her points and say affirmations for herself, and I saw instant dramatic results. You can download the manual for free at http://www.emofree.com/downloadeftmanual.htm My thoughts and prayers are with you. Don't hesitate to write me, on or off-list, if you need any help. With love, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD *Information, products, and services related to healing* ============================================== THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY is now available. Order this and also THE HANDBOOK OF RIFE FREQUENCY HEALING, at http://www.nenahsylver.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Obie Arthur is right. AV was able to get his son out of a coma while he was still in the hospital. AV had to sneak into the hospital various raw foods such as beef, eggs, honey, etc without being found out by the staff, who would have, of course, booted him out if they had learned of it. Raw foods have amazing recuperative properties. Since, as you have reported, your Lady is not necessarily in a true coma, she may respond even better. Take a look at " The Story " at www.primaldiet.com. Corny Re: Update About My Dear Lady obie in the introduction of aajonus vonderplanitz' book 'we want to live' there is a story of him helping his son recover fully from a coma OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Good suggestions Nenah, Regarding Rescue Remedy, you do not need to mix this remedy in a remedy bottle like the other remedies. It is intended to take as is out of the bottle, because it is a blend and not one pure remedy. This is from the course I have taken on the remedies from the Bach school in England, Sherri-Lee Looking for safe and natural health products? http://www.aloeessence.com Update About My Dear Lady > Optimistic Greetings from Obie: > > Max-z is in her 6th week of her coma, all her vitals are near perfect, she > is doing well and the Hospital continues to take wonderful care of her. > They have weaned her from the Ventilator, she is now accustomed to the Trac > tube in her throat, she is breathing normally through it, the Doctor thinks > she cannot originate the swallow response well enough quite yet and will not > order the Trac removed yet. The Doctors all agree that she will not get any > better than she is presently and continue to urge me to " ...pull the plug " > which I perceive as -- well I'm not gong to say it but I'm continuing to > refuse to do that to her. I know she would never do that to me. > > Friday, the Nurse called me and said " The Aide went into her room and told > her that we are down one Aide and no one can come in right now and help her > turn Ms. Max-z so she had to do it by herself so she said to her Maxine, > Honey, you need to help me with this, come on, Honey, help me and she said > Max used her own muscles and helped the Aide turn her over for her bath. " > Brain dead, huh? Well, nobody turns themselves over, even partially, with > no brain. > > Let me ask you a couple questions regarding her condition. Do we know if > the body can rebuild brain cells following damage for a lack of Oxygen? > And Max-z now has a Thrush condition appearing in her mouth. I know it's > because of an imbalance in her good bacteria-bad bacteria. Can anyone say > if there is any cure for this other than Acidophifilus [sp], etc, and > balancing them, please; should I give her something else for this fungus? > Also, her saliva pH was 5.5 and I'm going to give her Cod Liver Oil to bring > that up unless you can suggest something better. > > Now, I'm curious about her Thyroid. Is there anything natural for her > Thyroid, please? They have her on Synthroid and I'd rather use bovine > granules but don't want to use the normal Pork granules; don't know of > anything natural. Please suggest something for this if it exists. > > So you'll know, because of the conflict for me between taking her to a > Nursing Home versus taking her to our home, I asked the Master for help and, > quite out of the blue, Dr. Abbott, an ND, called asking to bring a 38' > RV, park it on our place and care for our Lady. Think God doesn't answer > those who serve Him? I hate the thought of just dumping her somewhere. > > Also, I organized a Trust for Maxine because several individuals asked to > help with her care. I mean, lots of us want to have a part in this but we > just can't leave our own life to come to Arkansas. To transport her back to > Texas, near Austin, is estimated at $5,000 just for the Ambulance both ways, > the equipment that will accompany her and the RN with her in case she needs > help. I think I'm going to be forced to keep her in Arkansas. We'll be all > alone but I can't pay for the transport. > > The Home Health Service can provide 1 RN for 1 hour per day and an Aide for > 2 hours per day. Without help, I'll be alone with her for 21 hours each day > and she needs more care than that. If you're able to help, please make > your check to " Medical Trust for Maxine " and the Trustee is Ms. Lee Burt, > Post Office Box 1701, Bastrop, Texas, 78601, [512] 321-5434. And please > know that I've made a personal commitment to Maxine. I'm going to stay by > her, provide for her as I'm able and I'm not pulling any plug on my Lady; > it's for better or worse, come what may. And I fully expect her to come out > of this; just going to take longer. > > Forgive me for not replying yet, I will soon. And I'm not giving into > Battle Fatigue. I'm Obie, taking care of his Lady. . . . . .lovin' it! Hello Obie. Thank you for reporting about Maxine. I am very moved to hear about her/your experiences and your response to events around you. I have a few suggestions. Do you know about the Bach Flower remedies? They were developed by Dr. Bach, a British physician who went into the countryside and made remedies primarily of flowers. He created something called " Rescue Remedy " which is a combination of 5 plants. The books I have about the Bach Flower remedies say that Rescue Remedy is quite effective for people in comas! All you have to do is buy a stock bottle for about $8.00 from the health food store. You then put 8 drops of the mother tincture into a separate dropper bottle, and fill it up with spring water and something to preserve it so it doesn't go bad. Some people use pure grain alcohol or brandy; others use colloidal silver. Colloidal silver might help with the thrush in her mouth, too. You can drop the Rescue Remedy into her mouth or on her lips at regular intervals. It is very gentle: it will not harm her in any way and it doesn't interfere with medications (unless it's to make them unnecessary). Rescue Remedy will also help with the shock. Regarding the thrush problem and her thyroid: You can address both issues with iodine tincture. Iodine will help speed up the thyroid (it is literally starving for iodine), and as it is a superb antiseptic, it can also help fight the fungus. I personally use atomic (colloidal) iodine, made as Edgar Cayce instructed, as it's more bioavailable to the body and cannot toxify the system as Lugol's solution will eventually do if taken in excess. Atomic iodine is available from a source that you can find on my website. Or, you can look up " Cayce Iodine " on the net -- but whatever you do, don't purchase it from the Heritage Store, for although it sells other Cayce products, its iodine is NOT made according to the Cayce recipe. Of course, if you can't obtain the atomic iodine, a dilute solution of Lugol's will do in a pinch and it will nourish the thyroid (just make sure she doesn't get too much). Regarding getting too much iodine, you can read an article on the Skin Patch Test on my website as well, under " Essays " and then under " Holistic Health. " You can also augment her thyroid support with glandular thyroid. Inner Light, Standard Process, and Metagenics are just a few companies that sell thyroid glandular. Be aware that since they ARE glandulars, there will be some animal tissue in the product. Inner Light uses the least amount of animal tissue, and augments its capsule with cell salts and herbs. I will obtain the combination thyroid-pituitary caps for you at cost if you want them; although the glandulars from other companies are good too. Regarding rebuilding nerve and brain cells: Doctors used to say it wasn't possible. Now they are finding that it IS possible. A 660-nanometer (red) LED light stimulates cells of whatever type to regenerate. Such a light has been shown to travel along the meridians. The Light Energy Company in Seattle (phone: 800-LIGHTCO) manufactures some excellent LED lights that go into the tissues quite deeply. If you call them, ask to speak to Pam about how she fully recovered super fast from a stroke because her husband was in the operating room during her surgery, shining an LED into her brain. (Tell them I sent you, so she'll know how you knew the story.) Finally, you might consider EFT, an emotional/energetic method of healing. You can do it vicariously for Maxine. I used it on my dog, who could not tap on her points and say affirmations for herself, and I saw instant dramatic results. You can download the manual for free at http://www.emofree.com/downloadeftmanual.htm My thoughts and prayers are with you. Don't hesitate to write me, on or off-list, if you need any help. With love, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD *Information, products, and services related to healing* ============================================== THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY is now available. Order this and also THE HANDBOOK OF RIFE FREQUENCY HEALING, at http://www.nenahsylver.com OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 > Let me ask you a couple questions regarding her condition. Do we know if > the body can rebuild brain cells following damage for a lack of Oxygen? For any kind of brain damage--- stroke, lack of oxygen at birth, etc--- the first therapy I think of is Hyperbaric Oxygen. Very good stuff, but also very expensive. Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Yes, Obie, moria is right. I have a home hyperbaric chamber. In fact, the hospital she's in is likely to have a hyperbaric chamber. Unfortunately these wonderful chambers are not used nearly as often as they should be. They can help all kinds of brain trauma, including stroke, cerebral palsy, trauma from accidents, etc. By forcing oxygen into the tissues under pressure, new blood vessel growth and nerve growth is stimulated. > > Let me ask you a couple questions regarding her condition. Do we > know if > > the body can rebuild brain cells following damage for a lack of > Oxygen? > > > For any kind of brain damage--- stroke, lack of oxygen at birth, > etc--- the first therapy I think of is Hyperbaric Oxygen. > > Very good stuff, but also very expensive. > > Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Obie, colloidal silver might help with the fungus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 mistletoe tincture moriamerri wrote: > > > >>Let me ask you a couple questions regarding her condition. Do we >> >> >know if > > >>the body can rebuild brain cells following damage for a lack of >> >> >Oxygen? > > >For any kind of brain damage--- stroke, lack of oxygen at birth, >etc--- the first therapy I think of is Hyperbaric Oxygen. > >Very good stuff, but also very expensive. > >Moria > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Re: Update About My Dear Lady > Good suggestions Nenah, > > Regarding Rescue Remedy, you do not need to mix this remedy in a remedy bottle like the other remedies. It is intended to take as is out of the bottle, because it is a blend and not one pure remedy. > > This is from the course I have taken on the remedies from the Bach school in England, > > Sherri-Lee Interesting, Sherri-Lee. Since Rescue Remedy *is* comprised of 5 different essences, that's why the books I have say to add the equivalent number of extra drops of Rescue Remedy into the dropper bottle if you're diluting it. Either way should work, no? After all, it IS homeopathic...and therefore it shouldn't matter how much of the original substance is in the solution. Comments? Nenah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Hi Nenah, I will try to find my books from the Bach School about this and post it for you. We are in the middle of renovations and they are packed in boxes in the dining room so it might take me awhile, but I will, Sherri-Lee Looking for safe and natural health products? http://www.aloeessence.com Re: Update About My Dear Lady > Good suggestions Nenah, > > Regarding Rescue Remedy, you do not need to mix this remedy in a remedy bottle like the other remedies. It is intended to take as is out of the bottle, because it is a blend and not one pure remedy. > > This is from the course I have taken on the remedies from the Bach school in England, > > Sherri-Lee Interesting, Sherri-Lee. Since Rescue Remedy *is* comprised of 5 different essences, that's why the books I have say to add the equivalent number of extra drops of Rescue Remedy into the dropper bottle if you're diluting it. Either way should work, no? After all, it IS homeopathic...and therefore it shouldn't matter how much of the original substance is in the solution. Comments? Nenah OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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