Re: 504 or IEP Plans?

[Guest guest]

there's no rhyme or reason to most OCD - my dd's however seem to make

sense to some extent - but some doorknobs are ok some not at times -

more often bathroom garbage actual dirty things etc are avoided - when

I see her avoiding I remind her it's OCD and I tell her to be strong

and fight and I'm going to help her fight - then we touch the knob

(against her will, fighting usually)for a few minutes then do something

to occupy and not let them wash -then after say how proud you are and

how they just " shrank the OCD " if they're young - I feel picturing the

OCD (Jake as she named it) now I can tell her she's punching him,

getting him etc - makes her feel good to fight back! -I love seeing the

after effects - so proud of herself!!! not half as proud as I am of

her!!!!!!!!!

Quoting katescakes1000 <katescakes1@...>:

> Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never heard of

> this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade and

> the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun of all

> the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's heavier than

> most( 145) and very smart, I told him they are just jealous and but I

> know his feelings are hurt. I also want to ask is PE an issue to

> anyone elses child?? My son always talked about not wanting to touch

> the gym floor because it was dirty, I can understand to a certain

> point but everyone is doing it. My son would rather run laps than have

> to touch the floor. He was always worried I was going to get mad if

> he got in trouble but I always told him i'll stand behind him 100% no

> matter what.

> Another question and help I need is he's not wanting to open doors

> anymore, He'll stay in his room all day and when he comes out i've

> noticed he'll take socks out of his dresser and open the door that

> way. this is new?? but he'll open the pantry and refrigorator door no

> problem??? do you have any suggestions on what do??? Thanks for the

> help.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-

I'm trying that too!!! and I understand about how proud of her you

are because I'm very proud of my son when he does something as small

as opening the door!! It breaks my heart to see him go through

this, I just want him to be the happy, smiley child he was!!! not to

see him smile makes me so sad!! I wish this ocd would just go

away!! I know its a problem and we are learning more and more about

it, this makes my son feel better!!

Since I joined this group and I read the mail, I talk to my son

about issues other kids have and it makes him feel better knowing

he's not the only child going through this and its not all him!!

I've ordered a couple of books and i'm waiting for the mail

everyday!! I want to learn more and more so I can help my son.

Thank you everyone for teaching me to help my son!! I thaught I was

going crazy(still break down sometimes) but its getting better. I

dont want to get upset with my son because I know its not his fault

but its hard not too.

-- In , " autumn71A@... "

<autumn71A@...> wrote:

>

> there's no rhyme or reason to most OCD - my dd's however seem to

make

> sense to some extent - but some doorknobs are ok some not at

times -

> more often bathroom garbage actual dirty things etc are avoided -

when

> I see her avoiding I remind her it's OCD and I tell her to be

strong

> and fight and I'm going to help her fight - then we touch the knob

> (against her will, fighting usually)for a few minutes then do

something

> to occupy and not let them wash -then after say how proud you are

and

> how they just " shrank the OCD " if they're young - I feel picturing

the

> OCD (Jake as she named it) now I can tell her she's punching him,

> getting him etc - makes her feel good to fight back! -I love

seeing the

> after effects - so proud of herself!!! not half as proud as I am

of

> her!!!!!!!!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Quoting katescakes1000 <katescakes1@...>:

>

> > Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never

heard of

> > this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade

and

> > the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun

of all

> > the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's

heavier than

> > most( 145) and very smart, I told him they are just jealous and

but I

> > know his feelings are hurt. I also want to ask is PE an issue to

> > anyone elses child?? My son always talked about not wanting to

touch

> > the gym floor because it was dirty, I can understand to a certain

> > point but everyone is doing it. My son would rather run laps

than have

> > to touch the floor. He was always worried I was going to get

mad if

> > he got in trouble but I always told him i'll stand behind him

100% no

> > matter what.

> > Another question and help I need is he's not wanting to open

doors

> > anymore, He'll stay in his room all day and when he comes out

i've

> > noticed he'll take socks out of his dresser and open the door

that

> > way. this is new?? but he'll open the pantry and refrigorator

door no

> > problem??? do you have any suggestions on what do??? Thanks for

the

> > help.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

IEP = Individualized Education Plan - requires a child study team eval

and the child has to be classified as having a condition that renders

him/her learning disabled. A 504 plan is provides for special

accommodations you can have in place for a child who is or is not

classified as needing special education, but has special needs. Your

child should be eligible for at least a 504 plan.

Bonnie

>

> Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never heard of

> this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade and

> the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun of all

> the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's heavier than

> most( 145) and very smart, I told him they are just jealous and but I

> know his feelings are hurt. I also want to ask is PE an issue to

> anyone elses child?? My son always talked about not wanting to touch

> the gym floor because it was dirty, I can understand to a certain

> point but everyone is doing it. My son would rather run laps than have

> to touch the floor. He was always worried I was going to get mad if

> he got in trouble but I always told him i'll stand behind him 100% no

> matter what.

> Another question and help I need is he's not wanting to open doors

> anymore, He'll stay in his room all day and when he comes out i've

> noticed he'll take socks out of his dresser and open the door that

> way. this is new?? but he'll open the pantry and refrigorator door no

> problem??? do you have any suggestions on what do??? Thanks for the

> help.

>

>

[Guest guest]

-

Thank You!!!

I now understand the plans, I think the 504 will help!

-- In , " rnmomo2 " <rnmomo2@...> wrote:

>

> IEP = Individualized Education Plan - requires a child study team

eval

> and the child has to be classified as having a condition that

renders

> him/her learning disabled. A 504 plan is provides for special

> accommodations you can have in place for a child who is or is not

> classified as needing special education, but has special needs.

Your

> child should be eligible for at least a 504 plan.

>

> Bonnie

>

>

>

> >

> > Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never

heard of

> > this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade

and

> > the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun

of all

> > the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's

heavier than

> > most( 145) and very smart, I told him they are just jealous and

but I

> > know his feelings are hurt. I also want to ask is PE an issue

to

> > anyone elses child?? My son always talked about not wanting to

touch

> > the gym floor because it was dirty, I can understand to a

certain

> > point but everyone is doing it. My son would rather run laps

than have

> > to touch the floor. He was always worried I was going to get

mad if

> > he got in trouble but I always told him i'll stand behind him

100% no

> > matter what.

> > Another question and help I need is he's not wanting to open

doors

> > anymore, He'll stay in his room all day and when he comes out

i've

> > noticed he'll take socks out of his dresser and open the door

that

> > way. this is new?? but he'll open the pantry and refrigorator

door no

> > problem??? do you have any suggestions on what do??? Thanks for

the

> > help.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , I'm glad your son realizes he's definitely not alone and is

feeling better. I know what you mean about the smile too.

was always my cheerful child so it was hard when one day I realized he

hadn't smiled in quite a while! Hope you get those books soon!

-

> I'm trying that too!!! and I understand about how proud of her you

> are because I'm very proud of my son when he does something as small

> as opening the door!! It breaks my heart to see him go through

> this, I just want him to be the happy, smiley child he was!!! not to

> see him smile makes me so sad!! I wish this ocd would just go

> away!! I know its a problem and we are learning more and more about

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

A 504 Plan can be used for students with disabilities and it refers

to Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act and is overseen by the

Office for Civil Rights (OCR). Usually I see the words " levels the

playing field " in regard to a 504 Plan, as the school has to sort of

break down any barriers for the student that " typical students " don't

face. Don't think I explained that well (the words just won't come

to me!) but as an example, 's OCD affected his ability at

school, affected his education/learning. He couldn't read sometimes

and when he did it was MUCH slower, he couldn't write at times, his

writing became illegible, he couldn't keep up in class.... Typical

students weren't going through this of course, so the 504 Plan we set

up had accommodations and/or modifications for to use

to " level the playing field. "

An IEP (Individualized Education Plan, or Program) falls under the

Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). You can also get

accommodations and modifications with an IEP. But IEP's can also

provide special education services that a school may offer (speech

therapy, occupational therapy, special classroom...). Also with an

IEP, a student often has goals/outcomes that they are working towards

and it has to be a measurable goal, etc. -- Just a brief

description, you can find a lot on IEPs and 504 Plans with a search,

too much to ever read it all!

The key with either Plan is to show your child's education/learning

being affected.

With the gym floor, is he touching it anyway? That is a good sign

and something he should be working towards, battling against his

OCD. But I do believe that some parents have succeeded with getting

some type accommodations for PE.

As to the teasing - I would bring it to the teachers and or

principal's attention if your son doesn't mind if you do. Make them

aware of it. Schools have policies against this but don't enforce

them very well. Teasing is a sore spot with me, having had the

problem myself as a child and then my son, the one with OCD, also has

gone through this. So I have LOTS of stuff saved on this still I

think if you want some info on schools regarding this.

Well, supper to get, hoped this helped a little. You'll gets LOTS of

info regarding schools from this group if you need it as many of us

have had to learn to advocate for our children!

, 17, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers Syndrome/autism

>

> Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never heard

of

> this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade

and

> the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun of

all

> the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's heavier

[Guest guest]

.. My daughter has a 504 plan because of her bipolar and ocd. My son has an IEP

for speech therapy set up for kindergarten. He was just recently diagnosed with

ocd. Does anyone know if I could just add certain accomadations to the IEP for

his ocd?

Judy

[Guest guest]

Judy, you can just add to the IEP anything needed due to his OCD

diagnosis. was just graduating from speech therapy and the

IEP ended when all the OCD stuff began. So - a 504 Plan for him!

Else, we'd have just added all to the IEP if he'd stayed in speech.

>

> . My daughter has a 504 plan because of her bipolar and ocd. My son

has an IEP for speech therapy set up for kindergarten. He was just

recently diagnosed with ocd. Does anyone know if I could just add

certain accomadations to the IEP for his ocd?

> Judy

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy,

My son (13-years-old and rising 8th grader) had an IEP from the time

he was in 1st grade through the middle of 6th grade for intellectual

giftedness, but we pulled him out of the gifted class in mid-6th

grade (long story - but he received his OCD diagnosis at about this

same time), so he no longer had an active IEP. In 7th grade, he was

also diagnosed with AD/HD, primarily inattentive type, which also

qualified him for an IEP. When the school psychologist filled out

the paperwork for the IEP this time, most of the special education

modifications were to accommodate for his AD/HD, but she noted that

he also has OCD and is intellectually gifted, requiring

services/modifications in those areas as needed.

Some things the school has allowed for his OCD (even without a 504

and before the second IEP) included changing his class schedule

around to put him in classes where he was less likely to obsess,

allowing him to leave the classroom when his anxiety would rise

(after cueing the teacher he is leaving), giving him the right to

carry a water bottle to school because of dry mouth caused by his

SSRI, modifying his instruction if the lesson dealt with issues that

he often obsessed about, etc. His psychologist and/or psych nurse

practioner would write a letter requesting these accommodations, and

the school allowed it. I have found, so far, that when the teachers

and administrative staff are informed and his mental health providers

request it, the school pretty much allows anything within reason.

> >

> > . My daughter has a 504 plan because of her bipolar and ocd. My

son

> has an IEP for speech therapy set up for kindergarten. He was just

> recently diagnosed with ocd. Does anyone know if I could just add

> certain accomadations to the IEP for his ocd?

> > Judy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-

Thanks I'll check into the plans! My son's learning/school

work is not the issue, He's doing quite well in fact, I'm surprised

but he is, Last year he had the highest avarage in the 7th grade,

I'm very proud of him!! Now his issue is people touching

his " stuff " if someone touches his books, paper,

homework,dest,pen/pencil things like this he freeks!!! this is what

i'm so worried about. And to answer your question about the gym

floor, I'm not sure exactly what he does/did. all I know is he

talked about it all the time and I can just picture him in PE trying

not to touch the floor when the excercise.

I'm a divorced mother of 2 and last night my son was with his dad,

his dad is NO help the s issues. My communication with is

so good and we are working of this together i'm afraid that going to

his dads house is going to make it worse. We'll see and i'm keeping

my fingers crossed!

Thanks for everything!

-- In , " "

<@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> A 504 Plan can be used for students with disabilities and it

refers

> to Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act and is overseen by the

> Office for Civil Rights (OCR). Usually I see the words " levels

the

> playing field " in regard to a 504 Plan, as the school has to sort

of

> break down any barriers for the student that " typical students "

don't

> face. Don't think I explained that well (the words just won't

come

> to me!) but as an example, 's OCD affected his ability at

> school, affected his education/learning. He couldn't read

sometimes

> and when he did it was MUCH slower, he couldn't write at times,

his

> writing became illegible, he couldn't keep up in class....

Typical

> students weren't going through this of course, so the 504 Plan we

set

> up had accommodations and/or modifications for to use

> to " level the playing field. "

>

> An IEP (Individualized Education Plan, or Program) falls under the

> Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). You can also

get

> accommodations and modifications with an IEP. But IEP's can also

> provide special education services that a school may offer (speech

> therapy, occupational therapy, special classroom...). Also with

an

> IEP, a student often has goals/outcomes that they are working

towards

> and it has to be a measurable goal, etc. -- Just a brief

> description, you can find a lot on IEPs and 504 Plans with a

search,

> too much to ever read it all!

>

> The key with either Plan is to show your child's

education/learning

> being affected.

>

> With the gym floor, is he touching it anyway? That is a good sign

> and something he should be working towards, battling against his

> OCD. But I do believe that some parents have succeeded with

getting

> some type accommodations for PE.

>

> As to the teasing - I would bring it to the teachers and or

> principal's attention if your son doesn't mind if you do. Make

them

> aware of it. Schools have policies against this but don't enforce

> them very well. Teasing is a sore spot with me, having had the

> problem myself as a child and then my son, the one with OCD, also

has

> gone through this. So I have LOTS of stuff saved on this still I

> think if you want some info on schools regarding this.

>

> Well, supper to get, hoped this helped a little. You'll gets LOTS

of

> info regarding schools from this group if you need it as many of

us

> have had to learn to advocate for our children!

>

>

> , 17, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers Syndrome/autism

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never

heard

> of

> > this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade

> and

> > the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun

of

> all

> > the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's heavier

>

[Guest guest]

, I am not divorced, but my husband and I see Abby's issues very

differently. He basically tells her to knock it off, that she doesnt need to do

those things. So she doesnt do much of it around him (most of her issue is

worrying and needing reassurrance). But, when she is with him, it seems to

sometimes build up, then she dumps it all on me.

Right now her 2 main ones are toys going down the drain in the bath tub, so she

has gone to taking showers, but wants to oversee her little sister in the tub,

to be sure nothing goes down the drain when she is done. The other one is toys

falling down the side of her bed by the wall. She sleeps way over to the other

side of her bed, by the edge, almost falling out, to try to keep anything from

falling down the wall side. I have showed her we can move her bed to get

anything that falls, but she doesnt accept that. Like in the tub, I have showed

her none of the toys will fit down the drain, wont accept that. I feel so bad

for her having to deal with these feelings all the time.

Sharon

Re: 504 or IEP Plans?

-

Thanks I'll check into the plans! My son's learning/school

work is not the issue, He's doing quite well in fact, I'm surprised

but he is, Last year he had the highest avarage in the 7th grade,

I'm very proud of him!! Now his issue is people touching

his " stuff " if someone touches his books, paper,

homework,dest,pen/pencil things like this he freeks!!! this is what

i'm so worried about. And to answer your question about the gym

floor, I'm not sure exactly what he does/did. all I know is he

talked about it all the time and I can just picture him in PE trying

not to touch the floor when the excercise.

I'm a divorced mother of 2 and last night my son was with his dad,

his dad is NO help the s issues. My communication with is

so good and we are working of this together i'm afraid that going to

his dads house is going to make it worse. We'll see and i'm keeping

my fingers crossed!

Thanks for everything!

-- In , " "

<@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> A 504 Plan can be used for students with disabilities and it

refers

> to Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act and is overseen by the

> Office for Civil Rights (OCR). Usually I see the words " levels

the

> playing field " in regard to a 504 Plan, as the school has to sort

of

> break down any barriers for the student that " typical students "

don't

> face. Don't think I explained that well (the words just won't

come

> to me!) but as an example, 's OCD affected his ability at

> school, affected his education/learning. He couldn't read

sometimes

> and when he did it was MUCH slower, he couldn't write at times,

his

> writing became illegible, he couldn't keep up in class....

Typical

> students weren't going through this of course, so the 504 Plan we

set

> up had accommodations and/or modifications for to use

> to " level the playing field. "

>

> An IEP (Individualized Education Plan, or Program) falls under the

> Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). You can also

get

> accommodations and modifications with an IEP. But IEP's can also

> provide special education services that a school may offer (speech

> therapy, occupational therapy, special classroom...). Also with

an

> IEP, a student often has goals/outcomes that they are working

towards

> and it has to be a measurable goal, etc. -- Just a brief

> description, you can find a lot on IEPs and 504 Plans with a

search,

> too much to ever read it all!

>

> The key with either Plan is to show your child's

education/learning

> being affected.

>

> With the gym floor, is he touching it anyway? That is a good sign

> and something he should be working towards, battling against his

> OCD. But I do believe that some parents have succeeded with

getting

> some type accommodations for PE.

>

> As to the teasing - I would bring it to the teachers and or

> principal's attention if your son doesn't mind if you do. Make

them

> aware of it. Schools have policies against this but don't enforce

> them very well. Teasing is a sore spot with me, having had the

> problem myself as a child and then my son, the one with OCD, also

has

> gone through this. So I have LOTS of stuff saved on this still I

> think if you want some info on schools regarding this.

>

> Well, supper to get, hoped this helped a little. You'll gets LOTS

of

> info regarding schools from this group if you need it as many of

us

> have had to learn to advocate for our children!

>

>

> , 17, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers Syndrome/autism

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never

heard

> of

> > this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade

> and

> > the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun

of

> all

> > the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's heavier

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon - dd sleeps at the edge of the bed too! I never in thought of

OCD or if so maybe staying where brothers/sister don't sit when

playing??

Quoting kidsnpets <sdonovan1@...>:

> , I am not divorced, but my husband and I see Abby's issues very

> differently. He basically tells her to knock it off, that she doesnt

> need to do those things. So she doesnt do much of it around him

> (most of her issue is worrying and needing reassurrance). But, when

> she is with him, it seems to sometimes build up, then she dumps it

> all on me.

>

> Right now her 2 main ones are toys going down the drain in the bath

> tub, so she has gone to taking showers, but wants to oversee her

> little sister in the tub, to be sure nothing goes down the drain when

> she is done. The other one is toys falling down the side of her bed

> by the wall. She sleeps way over to the other side of her bed, by

> the edge, almost falling out, to try to keep anything from falling

> down the wall side. I have showed her we can move her bed to get

> anything that falls, but she doesnt accept that. Like in the tub, I

> have showed her none of the toys will fit down the drain, wont accept

> that. I feel so bad for her having to deal with these feelings all

> the time.

>

> Sharon

> Re: 504 or IEP Plans?

>

>

> -

> Thanks I'll check into the plans! My son's learning/school

> work is not the issue, He's doing quite well in fact, I'm surprised

> but he is, Last year he had the highest avarage in the 7th grade,

> I'm very proud of him!! Now his issue is people touching

> his " stuff " if someone touches his books, paper,

> homework,dest,pen/pencil things like this he freeks!!! this is what

> i'm so worried about. And to answer your question about the gym

> floor, I'm not sure exactly what he does/did. all I know is he

> talked about it all the time and I can just picture him in PE trying

> not to touch the floor when the excercise.

> I'm a divorced mother of 2 and last night my son was with his dad,

> his dad is NO help the s issues. My communication with is

> so good and we are working of this together i'm afraid that going to

> his dads house is going to make it worse. We'll see and i'm keeping

> my fingers crossed!

> Thanks for everything!

>

>

> -- In , " "

> <@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi ,

> > A 504 Plan can be used for students with disabilities and it

> refers

> > to Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act and is overseen by the

> > Office for Civil Rights (OCR). Usually I see the words " levels

> the

> > playing field " in regard to a 504 Plan, as the school has to sort

> of

> > break down any barriers for the student that " typical students "

> don't

> > face. Don't think I explained that well (the words just won't

> come

> > to me!) but as an example, 's OCD affected his ability at

> > school, affected his education/learning. He couldn't read

> sometimes

> > and when he did it was MUCH slower, he couldn't write at times,

> his

> > writing became illegible, he couldn't keep up in class....

> Typical

> > students weren't going through this of course, so the 504 Plan we

> set

> > up had accommodations and/or modifications for to use

> > to " level the playing field. "

> >

> > An IEP (Individualized Education Plan, or Program) falls under the

> > Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). You can also

> get

> > accommodations and modifications with an IEP. But IEP's can also

> > provide special education services that a school may offer (speech

> > therapy, occupational therapy, special classroom...). Also with

> an

> > IEP, a student often has goals/outcomes that they are working

> towards

> > and it has to be a measurable goal, etc. -- Just a brief

> > description, you can find a lot on IEPs and 504 Plans with a

> search,

> > too much to ever read it all!

> >

> > The key with either Plan is to show your child's

> education/learning

> > being affected.

> >

> > With the gym floor, is he touching it anyway? That is a good sign

> > and something he should be working towards, battling against his

> > OCD. But I do believe that some parents have succeeded with

> getting

> > some type accommodations for PE.

> >

> > As to the teasing - I would bring it to the teachers and or

> > principal's attention if your son doesn't mind if you do. Make

> them

> > aware of it. Schools have policies against this but don't enforce

> > them very well. Teasing is a sore spot with me, having had the

> > problem myself as a child and then my son, the one with OCD, also

> has

> > gone through this. So I have LOTS of stuff saved on this still I

> > think if you want some info on schools regarding this.

> >

> > Well, supper to get, hoped this helped a little. You'll gets LOTS

> of

> > info regarding schools from this group if you need it as many of

> us

> > have had to learn to advocate for our children!

> >

> >

> > , 17, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers Syndrome/autism

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Can someone please explain what a 504 or IEP Plan is? Never

> heard

> > of

> > > this before. My son had such a bad year, he made wonderful grade

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> > > the teachers said he was great. But he was teased and made fun

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> > > the time at school. Kids like to pick on him because he's heavier

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