Re: sleep, please

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Our Develop Ped recommended Melatonin. It's not a drug it's actually a suppliment that is supposed to mimic what they kids would get from being in sunlight. It's great for getting them to relax and settle down for the night. We use it for our two children, we give each of them one tablet diced up in their ice cream or their nightime sippy cup. They are asleep within 20 minutes. I tried it myself and also fell asleep. The main thing with it is that it does not keep working through the night so they can wake up later if they are not heavy sleepers. But it's great for getting them to settle down. We found it at Walmart in the Vitamin isle.

HTH

Christy

-- sleep, please

My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues, one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she will pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake up at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas. paul

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Hi . We went through so many similar things with our boys. We have found the following things to work for them:

GFCF Diet improved sleep tremendously and all their behaviors as well. No more stimming!!

Weighted Blanket stopped the head banging to get themselves to sleep. Also allowed our one son to go to sleep and stay asleep and have less bed wetting.

Melatonin helped somewhat for them as well. Given in the evening about one half hour before you want them to sleep.

Sleepytime tea works well, too.....calms them before heading off to bed.

There are certainly more traditional approaches like medication, but we stray from that as much as possible. We do keep Clonodine for our most severely affected child in case he needs it.

Also, a warm epsom salt bath (which I haven't tried but have heard raved about) and lavender lotions (which we have used) would be helpful. Most of all ROUTINE is the best advice I can give you. 7pm is bedtime here no if ands or butts about it. My kids need their sleep and I need mine.

Hope this helps,

Jenna

sleep, please

My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues, one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she will pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake up at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas. paul

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Hi . We went through so many similar things with our boys. We have found the following things to work for them:

GFCF Diet improved sleep tremendously and all their behaviors as well. No more stimming!!

Weighted Blanket stopped the head banging to get themselves to sleep. Also allowed our one son to go to sleep and stay asleep and have less bed wetting.

Melatonin helped somewhat for them as well. Given in the evening about one half hour before you want them to sleep.

Sleepytime tea works well, too.....calms them before heading off to bed.

There are certainly more traditional approaches like medication, but we stray from that as much as possible. We do keep Clonodine for our most severely affected child in case he needs it.

Also, a warm epsom salt bath (which I haven't tried but have heard raved about) and lavender lotions (which we have used) would be helpful. Most of all ROUTINE is the best advice I can give you. 7pm is bedtime here no if ands or butts about it. My kids need their sleep and I need mine.

Hope this helps,

Jenna

sleep, please

My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues, one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she will pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake up at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas. paul

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Hi there

My 4yo son has sleep dysfunction. He cannot calm down enough to get

drowsy and fall asleep. It's been an issue for at least the last 2

yrs. We tried melatonin, and at first it was better. After a couple

of months, he fought the melatonin. We were giving him 6mg and he

was still up till the wee hours of the morning. We then received a

dx of autism, and the dev. ped. prescribed clonidine. It put him to

sleep, but didn't keep him asleep. We did that for a year, and then

he started exhibiting some anxieties (not as a result of the meds).

My family dr. wasn't comfortable changing meds, had no experience

with this in a child so young (almost 4). So, we were able to find

a child psychiatrist and visited her 2 mos ago. We phased out the

clonidine, and started on remeron. Almost immediately, my son

started sleeping 6-8 hrs a night. We still have some bad nights, but

the good ones definitely outnumber them. I have been getting the

best rest I've had in years. In addition, my son has not only been

participating, cooperating with the people around him (his aide, his

baby sitter, us!), he is accepting and playing with more people. He

is also initiating!!! He wants his aide to see what he is doing, etc.

Wish I could say his speech has improved one thousand fold, but his

communication and interaction have definitely improved.

Please don't beat me up about suggesting meds. We all do what we

think is best for our children, and he is clearly benefitting. This

is the only medication that he takes.

Anyway, I hope this is helpful

Trish in IL

>

> My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so

we

> are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues,

> one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant

> seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm

> sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she

will

> pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have

> ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30

or

> 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights

like

> last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not

> too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake

up

> at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the

> time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her

head/body

> so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas.

>

> paul

>

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My husband lays down with Hope at around 7:30 or 8 - and she falls right to sleep - she stays in our bed until I come to bed, then hubby moves her. Works like a charm. I will say she won't do this with/for me - go figure!Jenna and Rob <7wonderfulblessings@...> wrote: Hi . We went through so many similar things with our boys. We have found the following things to work for them: GFCF Diet improved sleep tremendously and all their behaviors as well. No more stimming!! Weighted Blanket stopped the head banging to get themselves to sleep. Also allowed our one son to go to sleep and stay asleep and have less bed wetting. Melatonin helped somewhat for them as well. Given in the evening about one half hour before you want them to sleep. Sleepytime tea works well, too.....calms them before heading off to bed. There are certainly more traditional approaches like medication, but we stray from that as much as possible. We do keep Clonodine for our

most severely affected child in case he needs it. Also, a warm epsom salt bath (which I haven't tried but have heard raved about) and lavender lotions (which we have used) would be helpful. Most of all ROUTINE is the best advice I can give you. 7pm is bedtime here no if ands or butts about it. My kids need their sleep and I need mine. Hope this helps, Jenna sleep, please My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues, one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she will pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not too comfy its a twin

and while she is little i am not) then i wake up at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas. paul No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 3:58 PM A great teacher never strives to explain his vision - he simply invites you to stand beside him and see for yourself.... The Rev. R. Inman Children are likely to live up to what you believe of them - Lady Bird Treat a child as though he already is the person he's capable of becoming - Haim Gnott

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i have a son (4yrs old) who was dignosed with aspergers last month and i too dont know what to do for him as far as sleep time too. hes up till 11pm sometimes. he also has a habit of peeing in his room everynite and i cant seem to get him to just get up and use to bathroom during the nite.also he has a thing with ripping eveyrthing in site..and i mean everything his room is completely bare..no rug..curtains...toys..hes on his 4th mattress...ect ect any help would be great!

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, does she get up in the am ok? Meaning does she seem to get enough sleep when doing this? My dd is nearly 14 and still does this as does my pastors 17 yr old son. Both have AS and bi polar disorder. I am not sure which causes the sleeping issues with them but they are there. The doc gave my dd Abilify to see if that would help level her moods and help with sleeping. Seems to help somewhat. Are there any ongoing stimulus in her room? Tv etc? My dd cannot go to sleep with a tv on. Although she says she will, she never has, as long as there is something going on, moving etc, she does not fall asleep no matter what! But my nt child will so...... I have personally found that the laying with them or the letting them sleep with you becomes an almost impossibly traumatic habit to break. Meaning they just freak when you try to get them to sleep on their own again. Sorry I do not have more to offer. I can relate though. I wake up in the

middle of the night and see my dd's light on, or hear her walking around. SCares me to death!Good luck and God bless! DeeDee" H. Beaulieu II" <ballou12400@...> wrote: My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues, one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating

circumstances, then she will pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake up at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas. paul

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Have you tried deep pressure massage with her? Firm back rubs? Rubbing the soles of her feet and her legs? This is how I get my toddler to sleep each night, but also my dd of nearly 8 years old, sometimes it helps her to settle down. Both of my children have sensory problems, but my toddler is being evaluated for ASD and/or SPD. In the meantime, she will start therapy soon until the dev ped can see her in January for an eval and diagnosis (maybe). I'm new here, btw. Kim, 34, married, two children. I also prefer to keep the list moderated as I don't remain on lists that have spammers and flamers posting. I am online every day. I don't know what all would be needed with moderating this group, but I'm willing to try to help out. I've been a moderator and also an owner of other groups before (still am a moderator on a forum, not with ). - Kim Kim's Typing Serviceshttp://www.freewebs.com/kimstypinge-mail: wilson.clan@...

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Thanks everyone, here is the detailed version.

my daughter has a routine for bed that begins around 7:30 with some

warnings and her changing into her pajamas. we used to do baths at

night but found that this year with homework etc it was pushing

things back too late so we just wash up at night. at 8:00 the egg

timer goes off(my best friend) and we go upstairs for bed. we do the

bathroom routine teeth etc. then its off to bed with a story from mom

and if miranda lets me, one from me. all this takes about 15-25

minutes.

during the 15-25 minutes she gets her night time snack (3 ritz

crackers)and a small glass of water. if left to her own devices she

will fall asleep around 10:30 -11:00. in the morning she is way too

exhausted and has a hard time waking and is GRUMPY(gets that from Mom)

she has started fighting with me about taking a bath in the morning

now. and throughout the day has periods when she complains of being

tired. Now the only thing i have found to diffuse her is to lay

with her and this for some reason gives her the comfort, security God

knows what but allows her to fall asleep by around 9:00. but as many

have pointed out I am not sure that it is a sustainable solution. I

may give melatonin a try. I will have to talk to my wife about it.

dd goes to a regular school but has a wonderful team of teachers that

she is working with. Here primary teacher was already working with

us from the get go this year even before we were able to get the IEP

written. Her Occupational therapist is the backbone of the whole

operation in that she is the most familiar with ASD and keeps

everyone else on point.(including us) the school psychologist and

student support specialist went to a class on aspergers held by FAU's

Center for Autism and Related Disorder's program the weekend before

the IEP meeting so I barely needed to bring up any of the

documentation that i had prepared.

thanks again for all of the advice.

I still think i will try some herbal and routine route prior to

medication but as we all know meds are necessary for some things. its

only when we use them more than we should that is a problem.

Beaulieu

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Thanks everyone, here is the detailed version.

my daughter has a routine for bed that begins around 7:30 with some

warnings and her changing into her pajamas. we used to do baths at

night but found that this year with homework etc it was pushing

things back too late so we just wash up at night. at 8:00 the egg

timer goes off(my best friend) and we go upstairs for bed. we do the

bathroom routine teeth etc. then its off to bed with a story from mom

and if miranda lets me, one from me. all this takes about 15-25

minutes.

during the 15-25 minutes she gets her night time snack (3 ritz

crackers)and a small glass of water. if left to her own devices she

will fall asleep around 10:30 -11:00. in the morning she is way too

exhausted and has a hard time waking and is GRUMPY(gets that from Mom)

she has started fighting with me about taking a bath in the morning

now. and throughout the day has periods when she complains of being

tired. Now the only thing i have found to diffuse her is to lay

with her and this for some reason gives her the comfort, security God

knows what but allows her to fall asleep by around 9:00. but as many

have pointed out I am not sure that it is a sustainable solution. I

may give melatonin a try. I will have to talk to my wife about it.

dd goes to a regular school but has a wonderful team of teachers that

she is working with. Here primary teacher was already working with

us from the get go this year even before we were able to get the IEP

written. Her Occupational therapist is the backbone of the whole

operation in that she is the most familiar with ASD and keeps

everyone else on point.(including us) the school psychologist and

student support specialist went to a class on aspergers held by FAU's

Center for Autism and Related Disorder's program the weekend before

the IEP meeting so I barely needed to bring up any of the

documentation that i had prepared.

thanks again for all of the advice.

I still think i will try some herbal and routine route prior to

medication but as we all know meds are necessary for some things. its

only when we use them more than we should that is a problem.

Beaulieu

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your information! I am going to try that

for my son. Although, we all hate meds, I hate seeing

my son sleep deprived even more. It is hell on earth

to watch him spiral, and we have tried everything

else. Wish him luck! Thanks again-

--- trishcrochets <TrishFLY@...> wrote:

> Hi there

>

> My 4yo son has sleep dysfunction. He cannot calm

> down enough to get

> drowsy and fall asleep. It's been an issue for at

> least the last 2

> yrs. We tried melatonin, and at first it was

> better. After a couple

> of months, he fought the melatonin. We were giving

> him 6mg and he

> was still up till the wee hours of the morning. We

> then received a

> dx of autism, and the dev. ped. prescribed

> clonidine. It put him to

> sleep, but didn't keep him asleep. We did that for

> a year, and then

> he started exhibiting some anxieties (not as a

> result of the meds).

> My family dr. wasn't comfortable changing meds, had

> no experience

> with this in a child so young (almost 4). So, we

> were able to find

> a child psychiatrist and visited her 2 mos ago. We

> phased out the

> clonidine, and started on remeron. Almost

> immediately, my son

> started sleeping 6-8 hrs a night. We still have

> some bad nights, but

> the good ones definitely outnumber them. I have

> been getting the

> best rest I've had in years. In addition, my son

> has not only been

> participating, cooperating with the people around

> him (his aide, his

> baby sitter, us!), he is accepting and playing with

> more people. He

> is also initiating!!! He wants his aide to see what

> he is doing, etc.

>

> Wish I could say his speech has improved one

> thousand fold, but his

> communication and interaction have definitely

> improved.

>

> Please don't beat me up about suggesting meds. We

> all do what we

> think is best for our children, and he is clearly

> benefitting. This

> is the only medication that he takes.

>

> Anyway, I hope this is helpful

> Trish in IL

>

>

>

> >

> > My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only

> dx'ed in july so

> we

> > are learning techniques for helping her deal with

> different issues,

> > one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the

> one issue i cant

> > seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put

> her to bed at 8 pm

> > sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating

> circumstances, then she

> will

> > pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a

> snack, which i have

> > ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in

> her bed till 10:30

> or

> > 11:00 at night talking to her self or just

> stimming. some nights

> like

> > last night to help calm her i will lay down with

> her in her bed(not

> > too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am

> not) then i wake

> up

> > at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay

> with her all the

> > time but i need to help her diffuse what is going

> on in her

> head/body

> > so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas.

> >

> > paul

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you for your information! I am going to try that

for my son. Although, we all hate meds, I hate seeing

my son sleep deprived even more. It is hell on earth

to watch him spiral, and we have tried everything

else. Wish him luck! Thanks again-

--- trishcrochets <TrishFLY@...> wrote:

> Hi there

>

> My 4yo son has sleep dysfunction. He cannot calm

> down enough to get

> drowsy and fall asleep. It's been an issue for at

> least the last 2

> yrs. We tried melatonin, and at first it was

> better. After a couple

> of months, he fought the melatonin. We were giving

> him 6mg and he

> was still up till the wee hours of the morning. We

> then received a

> dx of autism, and the dev. ped. prescribed

> clonidine. It put him to

> sleep, but didn't keep him asleep. We did that for

> a year, and then

> he started exhibiting some anxieties (not as a

> result of the meds).

> My family dr. wasn't comfortable changing meds, had

> no experience

> with this in a child so young (almost 4). So, we

> were able to find

> a child psychiatrist and visited her 2 mos ago. We

> phased out the

> clonidine, and started on remeron. Almost

> immediately, my son

> started sleeping 6-8 hrs a night. We still have

> some bad nights, but

> the good ones definitely outnumber them. I have

> been getting the

> best rest I've had in years. In addition, my son

> has not only been

> participating, cooperating with the people around

> him (his aide, his

> baby sitter, us!), he is accepting and playing with

> more people. He

> is also initiating!!! He wants his aide to see what

> he is doing, etc.

>

> Wish I could say his speech has improved one

> thousand fold, but his

> communication and interaction have definitely

> improved.

>

> Please don't beat me up about suggesting meds. We

> all do what we

> think is best for our children, and he is clearly

> benefitting. This

> is the only medication that he takes.

>

> Anyway, I hope this is helpful

> Trish in IL

>

>

>

> >

> > My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only

> dx'ed in july so

> we

> > are learning techniques for helping her deal with

> different issues,

> > one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the

> one issue i cant

> > seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put

> her to bed at 8 pm

> > sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating

> circumstances, then she

> will

> > pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a

> snack, which i have

> > ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in

> her bed till 10:30

> or

> > 11:00 at night talking to her self or just

> stimming. some nights

> like

> > last night to help calm her i will lay down with

> her in her bed(not

> > too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am

> not) then i wake

> up

> > at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay

> with her all the

> > time but i need to help her diffuse what is going

> on in her

> head/body

> > so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas.

> >

> > paul

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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psychiatrist and visited her 2 mos ago. We phased out the clonidine, and started on remeron. Almost immediately, my son started sleeping 6-8 hrs a night. We still have some bad nights, but the good ones definitely outnumber them. I have been getting the best rest I've had in years

<<

** My son is 17, a senior, and has been on medications for years and years. He has been on different ones and we have a decent few now that work well. HE has REMERON at bedtime too, and yes he sleeps very well and falls asleep faster than he used to before REMERON. We started the REMERON about 5 years ago I believe.

There are some good medications out there and for many of us, finding the right one or ones works well.

Good luck.

in IL

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My son, who will be 4 next week, has had sleep problems since he was a

baby. We tried the melatonin, 3mg, I don't think it did much. A good

routine, which I keep repeating to him throughout the evening was really

the biggest help.

I tell him " after dinner, we will watch one movie, then do a puzzle and

then take a bath and go night, night. " I also have a picture schedule,

sometimes we go to that, if I see that he is having trouble coping with

the transitions, but not that often.

I also play a book on tape for him, after I am done reading his expected

3 books, usually something from the Chronicles of Narnia...it is an

almost mesmerzing voice. I have heard that others use white noise

machines? Anyway, it does seem to help.

About every 3-4 weeks I do get a " middle of the night " wide awake can't

go back to sleep night, but it has come along way and I know I am a

better parent when I get my sleep...!

>

> My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we

> are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues,

> one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant

> seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm

> sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she will

> pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have

> ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or

> 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like

> last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not

> too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake up

> at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the

> time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body

> so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas.

>

> paul

>

[Guest guest]

My son, who will be 4 next week, has had sleep problems since he was a

baby. We tried the melatonin, 3mg, I don't think it did much. A good

routine, which I keep repeating to him throughout the evening was really

the biggest help.

I tell him " after dinner, we will watch one movie, then do a puzzle and

then take a bath and go night, night. " I also have a picture schedule,

sometimes we go to that, if I see that he is having trouble coping with

the transitions, but not that often.

I also play a book on tape for him, after I am done reading his expected

3 books, usually something from the Chronicles of Narnia...it is an

almost mesmerzing voice. I have heard that others use white noise

machines? Anyway, it does seem to help.

About every 3-4 weeks I do get a " middle of the night " wide awake can't

go back to sleep night, but it has come along way and I know I am a

better parent when I get my sleep...!

>

> My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we

> are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues,

> one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant

> seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm

> sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she will

> pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have

> ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or

> 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like

> last night to help calm her i will lay down with her in her bed(not

> too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake up

> at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the

> time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body

> so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas.

>

> paul

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I find melatonin only works for me if my brain wants to go to sleep. Otherwise, its just like I'm more relaxed, yet still awake. I find melatonin works best when I do not expose my eyes to light after taking it.

I had sleep issues for years, and the only thing that could fix them was to write or draw out everything that was in my head. Sometimes it took an hour, and I quickly learned to use pencils (as falling asleep with a pen in your hand ruins sheets), but it has always worked for me. It is kind of like a winding down ritual, almost like debriefing my brain.

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Hi Trich, I dont think badly of you for using meds. I think that each child has his or her own needs and you have to handle each child differently. I say that is the meds work for you and your child then that is great. I know from some of my friends that sometimes the meds will only work for a time and then stop. My best friend has a ddthat is 17 with BP and a son that is 8 with TS,OCD,and SA. The docs. tried the son on a med and she thought okay cause her dd had taken it before. The med did great things for her daughter but her sons behavior worsen. So I think that if it works for you and yours go for it. I'm not saying that everyone should or should not use meds, just that it works will with some and not on others. Peace Be With You All, trishcrochets <TrishFLY@...> wrote: Hi there :)My 4yo son has sleep dysfunction. He cannot calm down enough to get drowsy and fall asleep. It's been an issue for at least the last 2 yrs. We tried melatonin, and at first it was better. After a couple of months, he fought the melatonin. We were giving him 6mg and he was still up till the wee hours of the morning. We then received a dx of autism, and the dev. ped. prescribed clonidine. It put him to sleep, but didn't keep him asleep. We did that for a year, and then he started exhibiting some anxieties (not

as a result of the meds). My family dr. wasn't comfortable changing meds, had no experience with this in a child so young (almost 4). So, we were able to find a child psychiatrist and visited her 2 mos ago. We phased out the clonidine, and started on remeron. Almost immediately, my son started sleeping 6-8 hrs a night. We still have some bad nights, but the good ones definitely outnumber them. I have been getting the best rest I've had in years. In addition, my son has not only been participating, cooperating with the people around him (his aide, his baby sitter, us!), he is accepting and playing with more people. He is also initiating!!! He wants his aide to see what he is doing, etc.Wish I could say his speech has improved one thousand fold, but his communication and interaction have definitely improved.Please don't beat me up about suggesting meds. We all do what we think is best for our children, and

he is clearly benefitting. This is the only medication that he takes.Anyway, I hope this is helpfulTrish in IL>> My dd who is almost 7 has aspergers, she was only dx'ed in july so we > are learning techniques for helping her deal with different issues, > one issue at a time it seems. right now to me the one issue i cant > seem to get any traction with is sleep. we put her to bed at 8 pm > sometimes 8:30 if there are extenuating circumstances, then she will > pull a couple traditional tricks, dad i want a snack, which i have > ready, then a drink, then she will stay awake in her bed till 10:30 or > 11:00 at night talking to her self or just stimming. some nights like > last night to help calm her i

will lay down with her in her bed(not > too comfy its a twin and while she is little i am not) then i wake up > at 3 am and she is sleeping. i certainly can lay with her all the > time but i need to help her diffuse what is going on in her head/body > so she can sleep. i just dont have any ideas. > > paul>

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My AS (8) son also has a problem wetting the bed. It's like he just can't wake himself up. I found that making him go to the bathroom RIGHT before bed helps alot, (it's usually an argument) and also when I hear him whimper in his sleep at night it means he needs to pee. I have to pretty much drag him to the bathroom, but every time I make him he goes. I'd much rather wake up and argue with him about going to the bathroom at 1:00 am, than have to change the sheets at 1:30. If he urinates alot during the day, and seems to be constantly thirsty have him checked for diabetes. Hope this helps AlMAMI24ANGELS@... wrote: i have a son (4yrs old) who was dignosed with aspergers last month and i too dont know what to do for him as far as sleep time too. hes up till 11pm sometimes. he also has a habit of peeing in his room everynite and i cant seem to get him to just get up and use to bathroom during the nite.also he has a thing with ripping eveyrthing in site..and i mean everything his room is completely bare..no rug..curtains...toys..hes on his 4th mattress...ect ect any help would be great!

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Hope takes a medication called DVAPP which works to enable that part of the brain that regulates bed wetting and/or waking in time to take care of it. She stayed completely dry the whole time, we took her off it to see if those neural pathways were permanent and she has been wetting ever since, I am waiting for the refill as we speak. It may be worth discussing with your p doc. There is also a type of training that uses those mats that have alarms on them, it is supposed to be very effective, however, because Hope has sleep issues as well, we decided against that course of action."Blair, Al & the kids" <foreverfamilyof5@...> wrote: My AS (8) son also has a problem wetting the bed. It's like he just can't wake himself up. I found that making him go to the bathroom RIGHT before bed helps alot, (it's usually an argument) and also when I hear him whimper in his sleep at night it means he needs to pee. I have to pretty much drag him to the bathroom, but every time I make him he goes. I'd much rather wake up and argue with him about going to the bathroom at 1:00 am, than have to change the sheets at 1:30. If he urinates alot during the day, and seems to be constantly thirsty have him checked for diabetes. Hope this helps AlMAMI24ANGELSaol wrote: i have a son (4yrs old) who was dignosed with aspergers last month and i too dont know what to do for him as far as sleep time too. hes up till 11pm sometimes. he also has a habit of peeing in his room everynite and i cant seem to get him to just get up and use to bathroom during the nite.also he has a thing with ripping eveyrthing in site..and i mean everything his room is completely bare..no rug..curtains...toys..hes on his 4th mattress...ect ect any help would be great! Sponsored Link Degrees for working adults in as fast as 1 year. Bachelors, Masters, Associates. Top schools A great teacher never strives to explain his vision - he simply invites you to stand beside him and see for yourself.... The Rev. R. Inman Children are likely to live up to what you believe of them - Lady Bird Treat a child as though he already is the person he's capable of becoming - Haim Gnott

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Hi, When I first read your letter I thought to myself OMG she is talking about my son.,{lol} My son is 4 and 1/2 and was disnosed this summer. I usually have him in bed between 8 & 9 but it could be 10 or 11 before he is asleep. He bangs his head on the wall or the floor several time a night. He has no toys, a rug , carpet, or a curtain in his room. He "bed" is only a mattress on the floor because he tears the frames and box spring up. BTW this is his 4th bed also. If you dont mind may I ask your name and where you live? Peace Be With You All, MAMI24ANGELS@... wrote: i have a son (4yrs old) who was dignosed with aspergers last month and i too dont know what to do for him as far as sleep time too. hes up till 11pm sometimes. he also has a habit of peeing in his room everynite and i cant seem to get him to just get up and use to bathroom during the nite.also he has a thing with ripping eveyrthing in site..and i mean everything

his room is completely bare..no rug..curtains...toys..hes on his 4th mattress...ect ect any help would be great! KELLY

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In a message dated 11/19/2006 5:58:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, diegowench@... writes:

Hope takes a medication called DVAPP which works to enable that part of the brain that regulates bed wetting and/or waking in time to take care of it. She stayed completely dry the whole time, we took her off it to see if those neural pathways were permanent and she has been wetting ever since, I am waiting for the refill as we speak. It may be worth discussing with your p doc. There is also a type of training that uses those mats that have alarms on them, it is supposed to be very effective, however, because Hope has sleep issues as well, we decided against that course of action.

Honey before bed is supposed to be very helpful.

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In a message dated 11/19/2006 5:58:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, diegowench@... writes:

My AS (8) son also has a problem wetting the bed. It's like he just can't wake himself up. I found that making him go to the bathroom RIGHT before bed helps alot, (it's usually an argument) and also when I hear him whimper in his sleep at night it means he needs to pee. I have to pretty much drag him to the bathroom, but every time I make him he goes. I'd much rather wake up and argue with him about going to the bathroom at 1:00 am, than have to change the sheets at 1:30. If he urinates alot during the day, and seems to be constantly thirsty have him checked for diabetes.

Hope this helps

ty so much for the help!

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In a message dated 11/19/2006 5:58:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, diegowench@... writes:

Hope takes a medication called DVAPP which works to enable that part of the brain that regulates bed wetting and/or waking in time to take care of it. She stayed completely dry the whole time, we took her off it to see if those neural pathways were permanent and she has been wetting ever since, I am waiting for the refill as we speak. It may be worth discussing with your p doc. There is also a type of training that uses those mats that have alarms on them, it is supposed to be very effective, however, because Hope has sleep issues as well, we decided against that course of action.

i didn't know there was a med for that..thanks!

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In a message dated 11/19/2006 5:58:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, krbenglish@... writes:

Hi, When I first read your letter I thought to myself OMG she is talking about my son.,{lol} My son is 4 and 1/2 and was disnosed this summer. I usually have him in bed between 8 & 9 but it could be 10 or 11 before he is asleep. He bangs his head on the wall or the floor several time a night. He has no toys, a rug , carpet, or a curtain in his room. He "bed" is only a mattress on the floor because he tears the frames and box spring up. BTW this is his 4th bed also. If you dont mind may I ask your name and where you live?

wow they r basicly the same age too! my name is rachel and im from buffalo ny. u? finally someone out there that understands me!!

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Dear , Yes sweetie someone out there understands you{LOL}. I know how you feel and so UNDERSTAND. Sometimes I know that I feel like a bad mother or that I have failed my son because of his actions but then I sit back take a few deep breaths and know I'm wrong. I know that I'm a very good mother and I show my son lots of love and show and tell him right from wrong. Zachary also had holes in walls were he had hit or banged toys or himself in the walls. My husband redid his room the weekend before Thanksgiving. Lets see how long that last{LOL}. Well I hope things get easier for you and please know you are not alone. Gods Blessings To You All , Oklahoma City OK. MAMI24ANGELS@... wrote: In a message dated 11/19/2006 5:58:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, krbenglish writes: Hi, When I first read your letter I thought to myself OMG she is talking about my son.,{lol} My son is 4 and 1/2 and was disnosed this summer. I usually have him in bed between 8 & 9 but it could be 10 or 11 before he is asleep. He bangs his head on the wall or the floor several time a night. He has no toys, a rug , carpet, or a curtain in his room. He "bed" is only a mattress on the floor because he tears the frames and box spring up. BTW this is his 4th bed also. If you dont mind may I ask your name and where you live? wow they r basicly the same age too! my name is rachel and im from buffalo ny. u? finally someone out there that understands

me!!

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