Re: [OK]OT organics

[Guest guest]

We cannot have the word " organic " ANYWHERE on our label for raw milk. Even

though we feed all certified organic feed, use all certified organic treatments,

use all certified organic fertilizers (manure), and graze our cows way over the

required time. We are not CERTIFIED yet. Period.

I am shocked though, that Whole Foods would dare to sell any kind of GMOs. You

are right. Large scale organics are becoming corrupted. Too much beuracracy.

That's why we are going direct to consumer.

Rodrick

Re: Brewing/Storage Containers

Yes, organic standards are strict, but not nearly as much as they were before

BigAg jumped onto that bandwagon, or perhaps there are different rules for them

as opposed to the small farmer - I don't know.. The biggest problem is all the

processed foods that now carry an organic label- READ the labels, I would not

consider them organic by any manner of means. Seems as how if it contains ONE

organic ingredient, they are allowed to label it organic somehow.

Congratulations for having the courage and foresight to make the transition- we

need more folks like yourselves.

Now as to Whole Foods, I found them terribly overpriced for one thing, and for

another caught them selling GM potatoes as " Organic " that was the last straw for

me, won't shop there any more - glad we don't have one in this area. We had

Henry's ( Sprout's) in San Diego but out here its Food-Fare which seems to be

pretty decent. They carry mostly organics and they buy from the locals. Prices

not that bad either on most things.

Best of luck on your venture, I have a feeling your farm will be getting

national attention before too long. Hoping to come and see it one of these days.

Huggs

zoe

Rodrick wrote

> You're right Zoe, growing your own is preferred but I must say that

> the organic standards are strict. You mentioned water runoff and air

> contamination and those are probably the biggest. They do make us

> put fairly wide borders around the whole farm which gives us a

> greater distance from a conventional farmer and catches run off.

> They will inspect everything very carefully and give correction

> where it is needed. We are still transitioning our farm to organic.

> It is a several year process. In December we will be certified by

> PCO. (Pennsylvania Certified Organic)

> Your point about grocery chains is partly right. The " organics " in

> Wal-Mart might not be very organic. But I think Whole Foods market is

another story.

> Rodrick

> Btw, I got myself some green tea now.