Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 In a message dated 09/02/2010 12:07:50 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@... writes: Does anyone read these lists?Today they are discussing communication books, what a palavar!Should we do this should we do that, apparently no one has ever heard of PECS. >>Send me the link, I feel like some fun! Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Does anyone read these lists? Today they are discussing communication books, what a palavar! Should we do this should we do that, apparently no one has ever heard of PECS. I haven't seen any parents posting on this list and think it is meant for schools and teachers but really illustrates what a dire state education is in for SLD kids which in many cases includes our severely autistic children. Just my daily education punch in the face, can't help myself. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 First of all great to see you back BB, just recently back myself and still banging on about education, had some really useful studies pointed out which were really helpful in Mondays mediation. I can post you the link to the SLD forum but what it really does is illustrate how hopeless the situation is out there. At the moment I am looking into duty of care and how that translates to Speech therapists giving advice within an autism unit when they are not autism specific themselves. I am looking beyond the kangaroo court we all know as tribunal to see where I can go if we, as is likely lose. Somewhere amongst my realms and realms of paper work I have a human rights solicitor who deals with this kind of thing but need to dig it out. One interesting thing I have found is that parents are gagged all the way through the system, at AR I was not allowed to discuss past grievances, at Mediation the conSENsus woman was doing her level best to stop me talking about anything at all as recently as last week, yet allowed speech therapist to hide behind my husbands temper tantrums in school and then told me off for interrupting him, last tribunal the Chair quite literally shouted at me to stop bringing up the past! I conclude that within Educational settings there is no redress, no accountability, so it has to be taken somehow to another level where failures are allowed to be exposed by someone who is not paid by the same government department whether it is LEA, schools, or Tribunals, mediators, specialist outreach on contract, or anything else. Next time you are in a meeting look around the room and see who is not being paid for their opinion, guarantee the only person will be you. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 First of all great to see you back BB, just recently back myself and still banging on about education, had some really useful studies pointed out which were really helpful in Mondays mediation. I can post you the link to the SLD forum but what it really does is illustrate how hopeless the situation is out there. At the moment I am looking into duty of care and how that translates to Speech therapists giving advice within an autism unit when they are not autism specific themselves. I am looking beyond the kangaroo court we all know as tribunal to see where I can go if we, as is likely lose. Somewhere amongst my realms and realms of paper work I have a human rights solicitor who deals with this kind of thing but need to dig it out. One interesting thing I have found is that parents are gagged all the way through the system, at AR I was not allowed to discuss past grievances, at Mediation the conSENsus woman was doing her level best to stop me talking about anything at all as recently as last week, yet allowed speech therapist to hide behind my husbands temper tantrums in school and then told me off for interrupting him, last tribunal the Chair quite literally shouted at me to stop bringing up the past! I conclude that within Educational settings there is no redress, no accountability, so it has to be taken somehow to another level where failures are allowed to be exposed by someone who is not paid by the same government department whether it is LEA, schools, or Tribunals, mediators, specialist outreach on contract, or anything else. Next time you are in a meeting look around the room and see who is not being paid for their opinion, guarantee the only person will be you. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 First of all great to see you back BB, just recently back myself and still banging on about education, had some really useful studies pointed out which were really helpful in Mondays mediation. I can post you the link to the SLD forum but what it really does is illustrate how hopeless the situation is out there. At the moment I am looking into duty of care and how that translates to Speech therapists giving advice within an autism unit when they are not autism specific themselves. I am looking beyond the kangaroo court we all know as tribunal to see where I can go if we, as is likely lose. Somewhere amongst my realms and realms of paper work I have a human rights solicitor who deals with this kind of thing but need to dig it out. One interesting thing I have found is that parents are gagged all the way through the system, at AR I was not allowed to discuss past grievances, at Mediation the conSENsus woman was doing her level best to stop me talking about anything at all as recently as last week, yet allowed speech therapist to hide behind my husbands temper tantrums in school and then told me off for interrupting him, last tribunal the Chair quite literally shouted at me to stop bringing up the past! I conclude that within Educational settings there is no redress, no accountability, so it has to be taken somehow to another level where failures are allowed to be exposed by someone who is not paid by the same government department whether it is LEA, schools, or Tribunals, mediators, specialist outreach on contract, or anything else. Next time you are in a meeting look around the room and see who is not being paid for their opinion, guarantee the only person will be you. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 And there's more, everyone else is being paid to say what they do under the guise of the best interests of the child, but they know their paymasters will have to foot the bill. I really think they should not be allowed to present their cases under best interests of the child if the parent is sitting there as on that particular point no one can outrank. The tuth is it is best interest of child up against best interest of budget. Vicky In a message dated 17/02/2010 16:42:56 GMT Standard Time, bobsallyeva@... writes: That last sentence. I've thought that many times Vicky. It's true in every meeting. The parent is the only person who cares, who does most of the work and is not paid at all. Everyone else is having a break from the coal face, will be on expenses for lunch, and goes home with a pay packet, whatever the outcome.Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Can someone post the link to this SLD forum?? currently seeking ammunition for a potential school fall-out. thanks > > > In a message dated 09/02/2010 12:07:50 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@... > writes: > > Does anyone read these lists? > Today they are discussing communication books, what a palavar! > Should we do this should we do that, apparently no one has ever heard of > PECS. > > > > >>Send me the link, I feel like some fun! > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Can someone post the link to this SLD forum?? currently seeking ammunition for a potential school fall-out. thanks > > > In a message dated 09/02/2010 12:07:50 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@... > writes: > > Does anyone read these lists? > Today they are discussing communication books, what a palavar! > Should we do this should we do that, apparently no one has ever heard of > PECS. > > > > >>Send me the link, I feel like some fun! > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Can someone post the link to this SLD forum?? currently seeking ammunition for a potential school fall-out. thanks > > > In a message dated 09/02/2010 12:07:50 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@... > writes: > > Does anyone read these lists? > Today they are discussing communication books, what a palavar! > Should we do this should we do that, apparently no one has ever heard of > PECS. > > > > >>Send me the link, I feel like some fun! > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 That last sentence. I've thought that many times Vicky. It's true in every meeting. The parent is the only person who cares, who does most of the work and is not paid at all. Everyone else is having a break from the coal face, will be on expenses for lunch, and goes home with a pay packet, whatever the outcome. Sally MaddiganV@... wrote: > > > First of all great to see you back BB, just recently back myself and > still banging on about education, had some really useful studies > pointed out which were really helpful in Mondays mediation. > I can post you the link to the SLD forum but what it really does is > illustrate how hopeless the situation is out there. > At the moment I am looking into duty of care and how that translates > to Speech therapists giving advice within an autism unit when they are > not autism specific themselves. > I am looking beyond the kangaroo court we all know as tribunal to see > where I can go if we, as is likely lose. > Somewhere amongst my realms and realms of paper work I have a human > rights solicitor who deals with this kind of thing but need to dig it out. > One interesting thing I have found is that parents are gagged all the > way through the system, at AR I was not allowed to discuss past > grievances, at Mediation the conSENsus woman was doing her level best > to stop me talking about anything at all as recently as last week, yet > allowed speech therapist to hide behind my husbands temper tantrums in > school and then told me off for interrupting him, last tribunal the > Chair quite literally shouted at me to stop bringing up the past! I > conclude that within Educational settings there is no redress, no > accountability, so it has to be taken somehow to another level where > failures are allowed to be exposed by someone who is not paid by the > same government department whether it is LEA, schools, or Tribunals, > mediators, specialist outreach on contract, or anything else. > Next time you are in a meeting look around the room and see who is not > being paid for their opinion, guarantee the only person will be you. > Vicky > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 07:35:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 That last sentence. I've thought that many times Vicky. It's true in every meeting. The parent is the only person who cares, who does most of the work and is not paid at all. Everyone else is having a break from the coal face, will be on expenses for lunch, and goes home with a pay packet, whatever the outcome. Sally MaddiganV@... wrote: > > > First of all great to see you back BB, just recently back myself and > still banging on about education, had some really useful studies > pointed out which were really helpful in Mondays mediation. > I can post you the link to the SLD forum but what it really does is > illustrate how hopeless the situation is out there. > At the moment I am looking into duty of care and how that translates > to Speech therapists giving advice within an autism unit when they are > not autism specific themselves. > I am looking beyond the kangaroo court we all know as tribunal to see > where I can go if we, as is likely lose. > Somewhere amongst my realms and realms of paper work I have a human > rights solicitor who deals with this kind of thing but need to dig it out. > One interesting thing I have found is that parents are gagged all the > way through the system, at AR I was not allowed to discuss past > grievances, at Mediation the conSENsus woman was doing her level best > to stop me talking about anything at all as recently as last week, yet > allowed speech therapist to hide behind my husbands temper tantrums in > school and then told me off for interrupting him, last tribunal the > Chair quite literally shouted at me to stop bringing up the past! I > conclude that within Educational settings there is no redress, no > accountability, so it has to be taken somehow to another level where > failures are allowed to be exposed by someone who is not paid by the > same government department whether it is LEA, schools, or Tribunals, > mediators, specialist outreach on contract, or anything else. > Next time you are in a meeting look around the room and see who is not > being paid for their opinion, guarantee the only person will be you. > Vicky > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 07:35:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 That last sentence. I've thought that many times Vicky. It's true in every meeting. The parent is the only person who cares, who does most of the work and is not paid at all. Everyone else is having a break from the coal face, will be on expenses for lunch, and goes home with a pay packet, whatever the outcome. Sally MaddiganV@... wrote: > > > First of all great to see you back BB, just recently back myself and > still banging on about education, had some really useful studies > pointed out which were really helpful in Mondays mediation. > I can post you the link to the SLD forum but what it really does is > illustrate how hopeless the situation is out there. > At the moment I am looking into duty of care and how that translates > to Speech therapists giving advice within an autism unit when they are > not autism specific themselves. > I am looking beyond the kangaroo court we all know as tribunal to see > where I can go if we, as is likely lose. > Somewhere amongst my realms and realms of paper work I have a human > rights solicitor who deals with this kind of thing but need to dig it out. > One interesting thing I have found is that parents are gagged all the > way through the system, at AR I was not allowed to discuss past > grievances, at Mediation the conSENsus woman was doing her level best > to stop me talking about anything at all as recently as last week, yet > allowed speech therapist to hide behind my husbands temper tantrums in > school and then told me off for interrupting him, last tribunal the > Chair quite literally shouted at me to stop bringing up the past! I > conclude that within Educational settings there is no redress, no > accountability, so it has to be taken somehow to another level where > failures are allowed to be exposed by someone who is not paid by the > same government department whether it is LEA, schools, or Tribunals, > mediators, specialist outreach on contract, or anything else. > Next time you are in a meeting look around the room and see who is not > being paid for their opinion, guarantee the only person will be you. > Vicky > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 07:35:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Have you looked into Judicial Reviews? > > First of all great to see you back BB, just recently back myself and still > banging on about education, had some really useful studies pointed out > which were really helpful in Mondays mediation. > I can post you the link to the SLD forum but what it really does is > illustrate how hopeless the situation is out there. > At the moment I am looking into duty of care and how that translates to > Speech therapists giving advice within an autism unit when they are not autism > specific themselves. > I am looking beyond the kangaroo court we all know as tribunal to see where > I can go if we, as is likely lose. > Somewhere amongst my realms and realms of paper work I have a human > rights solicitor who deals with this kind of thing but need to dig it out. > One interesting thing I have found is that parents are gagged all the way > through the system, at AR I was not allowed to discuss past grievances, at > Mediation the conSENsus woman was doing her level best to stop me talking > about anything at all as recently as last week, yet allowed speech therapist > to hide behind my husbands temper tantrums in school and then told me off > for interrupting him, last tribunal the Chair quite literally shouted at me > to stop bringing up the past! I conclude that within Educational settings > there is no redress, no accountability, so it has to be taken somehow to > another level where failures are allowed to be exposed by someone who is not > paid by the same government department whether it is LEA, schools, or > Tribunals, mediators, specialist outreach on contract, or anything else. > Next time you are in a meeting look around the room and see who is not > being paid for their opinion, guarantee the only person will be you. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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