Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hi, I went to a naturalpathic doctor 2 years ago just too see how she would deal with heart disease and guess what? She was all set to give me RED YEAST RICE which is a statin drug in its natural form. I thanked her, paid her for her advice and never went back to her. phine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Grapefruit pectin? I thought you weren't supposed to eat ANY grapefruit while taking ANY statins? Isn't that dangerous? Why is your doctor doing that? Also, why is your doctor combining policosanol and RYR? High cholesterol DOES NOT cause heart disease. Rather high cholesterol is the result of atherosclerosis/arteriosclerosis. The heart disease is caused because the artery walls are inflamed and need strengthening via nutrition. Dummy MDs and even many naturalpaths are sitting on their brains. phine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 phine, I had the same experience a while back. I chalked it up to ignorance on the doctor's part, although she called herself an integrative doctor. I no longer go to her. But look at it like this: at least your doctor wasn't trying to help Big Pharma rake in more billions! (I know, that's only just barely on the plus side of the equation, but it's a start.) Good for you for not going back!jlkinkona <josephine@...> wrote: Hi,I went to a naturalpathic doctor 2 years ago just too see how shewould deal with heart disease and guess what? She was all set to giveme RED YEAST RICE which is a statin drug in its natural form. Ithanked her, paid her for her advice and never went back to her.phine.----- Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=bmFuY2FybDIwNzQ%3D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Hmm, Is it grapefuit "pectin" or grapefruit seed extract which would be used for candidiasis or "candida?" I also question the potential dangers of the two "drugs" combined. Let us know. D From: jlkinkona <josephine@...>Subject: Re: From Our Newest MemberLipitor Date: Sunday, May 11, 2008, 4:01 PM Grapefruit pectin? I thought you weren't supposed to eat ANYgrapefruit while taking ANY statins? Isn't that dangerous?Why is your doctor doing that?Also, why is your doctor combining policosanol and RYR? High cholesterol DOES NOT cause heart disease. Rather high cholesterolis the result of atherosclerosis/ arteriosclerosis . The heart diseaseis caused because the artery walls are inflamed and need strengtheningvia nutrition. Dummy MDs and even many naturalpaths are sitting ontheir brains. phine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Ok, I just went to You Tube and accessed a video by Dr. Beatrice Golomb from UCSD on the "Statins and Heart Attacks." It's about 56 minutes long and VERY informative. Just when it got the when she said "people on statins tended to die sooner" the whole thing forze and I can't get it to continue! There's about 20 minutes left to this lecture and I can't watch it!!!! I'm hearing the theme to The Twilight Zone right now. If anyone else can view it in its entirety can you report back here? D From: Ed Gundy <edgundy@...>Subject: From Our Newest MemberLipitor Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 10:58 PM Here is the entry comment to the group from our newest member. Anyonehave a comment or two to relay to him?"I am a holistic doctor and want to learn what reactions people arehaving to statins. I use natural medicines for the same results.thank you" Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 > > Here is the statement from our newest member as he requested to join. > > Any comments from any of the ol' timers in the group? > > " I just had a heart attack and am taking lipitor, very concerned about > side effects and long term consequences, would like to be able to > participate and hopefully contribute to discussion " > Did you just now start taking lipitor after your heart attack? My husband passed away last year at the age of 56 of a massive heart attack. His cholesterol was in the normal range. My father also died of a massive heart attack and he too had normal cholesterol levels. I think your physician needs to run more tests to see just what caused this heart attack. I don't believe for one moment that it was because of high cholesterol. I would not take any statins. If you feel you must lower your cholesterol, do it by natural supplements, vitamins, exercise, and diet. It works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I was on Lipitor for 18 months and finally had to stop taking it. My aches and muscle weakest were affecting the quality of my life. I've been off of it for 3 months and am starting feel normal again Lee... Ed Gundy wrote: Here is the statement from our newest member as he requested to join. Any comments from any of the ol' timers in the group? "I just had a heart attack and am taking lipitor, very concerned about side effects and long term consequences, would like to be able to participate and hopefully contribute to discussion" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Welcome! You're in the right place. I'm 6'1 and 253 pounds and have lifted the wheel of a VW Beetle off the ground (when i was younger). After 6 months on Zocor I couldn't drive a screw into a board because the muscle pain in my arm stopped me every 1/3 of a turn. But my doctor said my blood work was fine. I stopped statins and guess what? i just finished remodeling our bathroom and I feel great! Glenn______________________"Life is not about finding yourself; it is about creating yourself. " - Bernard Shaw From our newest member Here is the statement from our newest member as he requested to join.Any comments from any of the ol' timers in the group?"I just had a heart attack and am taking lipitor, very concerned about side effects and long term consequences, would like to be able to participate and hopefully contribute to discussion" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I did just start taking it after my 9-7 " event. " I am pretty skeptical about any cholesterol connection but at the same time my research to date suggests that even some anti-statin advocates think their anti-inflammatory properties may be a reason to take one at least for a short time following an MI. I am taking with a grain of salt what my big hospital/big pharma cardiologist says (even though he saved my life!!) but my primary care physician -- who is at a very reputable integrative/alternative medicine center -- told me to stay on the statin at least for now to reduce arterial inflammation. > > > > Here is the statement from our newest member as he requested to join. > > > > Any comments from any of the ol' timers in the group? > > > > " I just had a heart attack and am taking lipitor, very concerned about > > side effects and long term consequences, would like to be able to > > participate and hopefully contribute to discussion " > > > Did you just now start taking lipitor after your heart attack? My > husband passed away last year at the age of 56 of a massive heart > attack. His cholesterol was in the normal range. My father also died > of a massive heart attack and he too had normal cholesterol levels. I > think your physician needs to run more tests to see just what caused > this heart attack. I don't believe for one moment that it was because > of high cholesterol. I would not take any statins. If you feel you > must lower your cholesterol, do it by natural supplements, vitamins, > exercise, and diet. It works! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I did just start taking it after my 9-7 " event. " I am pretty skeptical about any cholesterol connection but at the same time my research to date suggests that even some anti-statin advocates think their anti-inflammatory properties may be a reason to take one at least for a short time following an MI. I am taking with a grain of salt what my big hospital/big pharma cardiologist says (even though he saved my life!!) but my primary care physician -- who is at a very reputable integrative/alternative medicine center -- told me to stay on the statin at least for now to reduce arterial inflammation. > > > > Here is the statement from our newest member as he requested to join. > > > > Any comments from any of the ol' timers in the group? > > > > " I just had a heart attack and am taking lipitor, very concerned about > > side effects and long term consequences, would like to be able to > > participate and hopefully contribute to discussion " > > > Did you just now start taking lipitor after your heart attack? My > husband passed away last year at the age of 56 of a massive heart > attack. His cholesterol was in the normal range. My father also died > of a massive heart attack and he too had normal cholesterol levels. I > think your physician needs to run more tests to see just what caused > this heart attack. I don't believe for one moment that it was because > of high cholesterol. I would not take any statins. If you feel you > must lower your cholesterol, do it by natural supplements, vitamins, > exercise, and diet. It works! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I just wanted to say that as of last night I am no longer taking the prescription for Tricor. I went to bed at 7 pm because I felt so lousy ... pain in my shoulders... pain and weakness in my legs. I can't feel like this ... will tell my cardiologist that got off it because of the side effects. He assured me that Tricor is nothing like any of the other " or " s... Lipitor, Crestor, Zocor... bull. All drugs that end in a OR are the same. A statin is a statin is a statin. I have felt the same side effects with all of them and end up going off of them soon. Only to find that the pain went away almost as soon as I stopped taking it. Ed > > " My mother is 79 y.o. and is taking 80 mg of Lipitor. She's having > terrible side effects but won't believe that the Lipitor could be > causing some of her problems. " > > Any thoughts .... > > My mom is also 79 and she was taking Lipitor and felt lousy all the > time. After all my harping on the subject to her she quit taking it and > she has been feeling terrific without it ever since... > > Ed > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 nope .. it is Dr. Bornstein .... but there is a " or " in there. > > > > > > " My mother is 79 y.o. and is taking 80 mg of Lipitor. She's having > > > terrible side effects but won't believe that the Lipitor could be > > > causing some of her problems. " > > > > > > Any thoughts .... > > > > > > My mom is also 79 and she was taking Lipitor and felt lousy all the > > > time. After all my harping on the subject to her she quit taking it and > > > she has been feeling terrific without it ever since... > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Stop taking the damn things....Period Lee... Ed Gundy wrote: > Their statement when they joined. > > " My friend is suffering from what I believe may be side effects of statin drugs. 2 of the doctors that she has seen said to continue taking the meds. I want to find help for her " > > Any suggestions for our newest member to tell their friend's dr. and to the friend? > > Ed > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 ditto what Lee said and tell the doctor to quit poisoning his patients. phine > > Stop taking the damn things....Period > > Lee... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 " I am taking Lipitor. My feet, hands, face, ankles are swelling and I have discoloration on the lower legs. I would like see if anyone has experienced this. " Would anyone like to respond? Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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