Re: Man hasn't slept for 33 years

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Wow! This man must really be an exception.

I have an Aspie friend who has suffered from insomnia since he was a child and is practically going nuts from sleep deprivation.

Inger

Man hasn't slept for 33 years

Vietnam man handles three decades without sleepAs songbirds awaken the early risers at dawn on the farm, one resident is already up; in fact, he never slept – not once in the past 33 years. You’d think going without sleep for that long may have its drawbacks, but not for the man in central Quang Nam province who has never been ill after decades of insomnia.His inability to sleep has not only made him famous, but also represents a “miraculous†phenomenon worthy of scientific study.Sixty-four-year-old Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he could not sleep at night after getting a fever in 1973, and has counted infinite numbers of sheep during more than 11,700 consecutive sleepless nights.“I don’t know whether the insomnia has impacted my health or not. But I’m still healthy and can farm normally like others,†Ngoc said.Proving his health, the elderly resident of Que Trung commune, Que Son district said he can carry two 50kg bags of fertilizer down 4km of road to return home every day.His wife said, “My husband used to sleep well, but these days, even liquor cannot put him down.â€She said when Ngoc went to Da Nang for a medical examination, doctors gave him a clean bill of health, except a minor decline in liver function.Ngoc currently lives on his 5ha farm at the foot of a mountain busy with farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six children live at their house in Que Trung.“I have tried sleeping pills and Vietnamese traditional medicine but nothing helps, even to sleep for a few minutes,†he said.Creature of the nightNgoc often does extra farm work or guards his farm at night to prevent theft, saying he used three months of sleepless nights to dig two large ponds to raise fish.Neighbor Vu said Ngoc volunteered to help beat a drum during the night and guard the house for the relatives of the dead during funeral ceremonies so that they could take a nap.Vu also said when the commune was planting sugar cane, several people also asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work, since he was up anywayOn Ngoc’s prolonged insomnia, Phan Ngoc Ha, director of the Hoa Khanh Mental Hospital in Danang said sleep disorders often cause anorexia, lethargy, and irritability.But, in special cases, some people can handle it and still live and work normally, although this was a very small ratio among insomniacs, Ha added.Reported by Vu Phuong Thao – Translated by Thu Thuy

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If he can't sleep, maybe he should get together with me for a little sparring match. I could probably knock him unconscious, and then he'd sleep. God bless, Irelan

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[Guest guest]

Yes, it seems to be very common.

I don't have a problem sleeping, just sleeping at a 24-hour cycle. I've just gotten my first bottle of melatonin but haven't started on it yet. I'll report back how it works when I do.

I wonder if it would work for Hai Ngoc? :-)

Inger

Man hasn't slept for 33 years

Vietnam man handles three decades without sleepAs songbirds awaken the early risers at dawn on the farm, one resident is already up; in fact, he never slept – not once in the past 33 years You’d think going without sleep for that long may have its drawbacks, but not for the man in central Quang Nam province who has never been ill after decades of insomnia.His inability to sleep has not only made him famous, but also represents a “miraculous†phenomenon worthy of scientific study.Sixty-four-year-old Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he could not sleep at night after getting a fever in 1973, and has counted infinite numbers of sheep during more than 11,700 consecutive sleepless nights.“I don’t know whether the insomnia has impacted my health or not. But I’m still healthy and can farm normally like others,†Ngoc said.Proving his health, the elderly resident of Que Trung commune, Que Son district said he can carry two 50kg bags of fertilizer down 4km of road to return home every day.His wife said, “My husband used to sleep well, but these days, even liquor cannot put him down.â€She said when Ngoc went to Da Nang for a medical examination, doctors gave him a clean bill of health, except a minor decline in liver function.Ngoc currently lives on his 5ha farm at the foot of a mountain busy with farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six children live at their house in Que Trung.“I have tried sleeping pills and Vietnamese traditional medicine but nothing helps, even to sleep for a few minutes,†he said.Creature of the nightNgoc often does extra farm work or guards his farm at night to prevent theft, saying he used three months of sleepless nights to dig two large ponds to raise fish.Neighbor Vu said Ngoc volunteered to help beat a drum during the night and guard the house for the relatives of the dead during funeral ceremonies so that they could take a nap.Vu also said when the commune was planting sugar cane, several people also asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work, since he was up anywayOn Ngoc’s prolonged insomnia, Phan Ngoc Ha, director of the Hoa Khanh Mental Hospital in Danang said sleep disorders often cause anorexia, lethargy, and irritability.But, in special cases, some people can handle it and still live and work normally, although this was a very small ratio among insomniacs, Ha added.Reported by Vu Phuong Thao – Translated by Thu Thuy

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[Guest guest]

Do they know for sure that he hasn't slept AT ALL? Is that even

possible?

My husband has severe insomnia which started after he got hit on the

head as a child. He goes days without sleep and when he does sleep he

only gets an hour or two at a time and not more than 5 hours over the

course of the whole night at the most. He gets tired but not nearly

as tired or low energy or low functioning as he should be. I wonder

what happens to the brain that allows a person to sleep little

without health problems?

>

> Vietnam man handles three decades without sleep

>

>

>

> As songbirds awaken the early risers at dawn on the farm, one

resident is

> already up; in fact, he never slept †" not once in the past 33

years.

> You’d think going without sleep for that long may have its

drawbacks, but not

> for the man in central Quang Nam province who has never been ill

after

> decades of insomnia.

>

> His inability to sleep has not only made him famous, but also

represents a “

> miraculous†phenomenon worthy of scientific study.

>

> Sixty-four-year-old Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he could not

sleep at

> night after getting a fever in 1973, and has counted infinite

numbers of sheep

> during more than 11,700 consecutive sleepless nights.

>

> “I don’t know whether the insomnia has impacted my health or

not. But I’m

> still healthy and can farm normally like others,†Ngoc said.

>

> Proving his health, the elderly resident of Que Trung commune, Que

Son

> district said he can carry two 50kg bags of fertilizer down 4km of

road to return

> home every day.

>

> His wife said, “My husband used to sleep well, but these days,

even liquor

> cannot put him down.â€

>

> She said when Ngoc went to Da Nang for a medical examination,

doctors gave

> him a clean bill of health, except a minor decline in liver

function.

>

> Ngoc currently lives on his 5ha farm at the foot of a mountain busy

with

> farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six

children live at

> their house in Que Trung.

>

> “I have tried sleeping pills and Vietnamese traditional medicine

but nothing

> helps, even to sleep for a few minutes,†he said.

>

> Creature of the night

>

> Ngoc often does extra farm work or guards his farm at night to

prevent theft,

> saying he used three months of sleepless nights to dig two large

ponds to

> raise fish.

>

> Neighbor Vu said Ngoc volunteered to help beat a drum during the

night and

> guard the house for the relatives of the dead during funeral

ceremonies so that

> they could take a nap.

>

> Vu also said when the commune was planting sugar cane, several

people also

> asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work, since he was

up anyway.

>

> On Ngoc’s prolonged insomnia, Phan Ngoc Ha, director of the Hoa

Khanh Mental

> Hospital in Danang said sleep disorders often cause anorexia,

lethargy, and

> irritability.

>

> But, in special cases, some people can handle it and still live and

work

> normally, although this was a very small ratio among insomniacs, Ha

added.

>

> Reported by Vu Phuong Thao †" Translated by Thu Thuy

>

[Guest guest]

Do they know for sure that he hasn't slept AT ALL? Is that even

possible?

My husband has severe insomnia which started after he got hit on the

head as a child. He goes days without sleep and when he does sleep he

only gets an hour or two at a time and not more than 5 hours over the

course of the whole night at the most. He gets tired but not nearly

as tired or low energy or low functioning as he should be. I wonder

what happens to the brain that allows a person to sleep little

without health problems?

>

> Vietnam man handles three decades without sleep

>

>

>

> As songbirds awaken the early risers at dawn on the farm, one

resident is

> already up; in fact, he never slept †" not once in the past 33

years.

> You’d think going without sleep for that long may have its

drawbacks, but not

> for the man in central Quang Nam province who has never been ill

after

> decades of insomnia.

>

> His inability to sleep has not only made him famous, but also

represents a “

> miraculous†phenomenon worthy of scientific study.

>

> Sixty-four-year-old Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he could not

sleep at

> night after getting a fever in 1973, and has counted infinite

numbers of sheep

> during more than 11,700 consecutive sleepless nights.

>

> “I don’t know whether the insomnia has impacted my health or

not. But I’m

> still healthy and can farm normally like others,†Ngoc said.

>

> Proving his health, the elderly resident of Que Trung commune, Que

Son

> district said he can carry two 50kg bags of fertilizer down 4km of

road to return

> home every day.

>

> His wife said, “My husband used to sleep well, but these days,

even liquor

> cannot put him down.â€

>

> She said when Ngoc went to Da Nang for a medical examination,

doctors gave

> him a clean bill of health, except a minor decline in liver

function.

>

> Ngoc currently lives on his 5ha farm at the foot of a mountain busy

with

> farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six

children live at

> their house in Que Trung.

>

> “I have tried sleeping pills and Vietnamese traditional medicine

but nothing

> helps, even to sleep for a few minutes,†he said.

>

> Creature of the night

>

> Ngoc often does extra farm work or guards his farm at night to

prevent theft,

> saying he used three months of sleepless nights to dig two large

ponds to

> raise fish.

>

> Neighbor Vu said Ngoc volunteered to help beat a drum during the

night and

> guard the house for the relatives of the dead during funeral

ceremonies so that

> they could take a nap.

>

> Vu also said when the commune was planting sugar cane, several

people also

> asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work, since he was

up anyway.

>

> On Ngoc’s prolonged insomnia, Phan Ngoc Ha, director of the Hoa

Khanh Mental

> Hospital in Danang said sleep disorders often cause anorexia,

lethargy, and

> irritability.

>

> But, in special cases, some people can handle it and still live and

work

> normally, although this was a very small ratio among insomniacs, Ha

added.

>

> Reported by Vu Phuong Thao †" Translated by Thu Thuy

>

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In a message dated 2/20/2006 12:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikecarrie01@... writes:

My husband has severe insomnia which started after he got hit on the

head as a child. He goes days without sleep and when he does sleep he

only gets an hour or two at a time and not more than 5 hours over the

course of the whole night at the most. He gets tired but not nearly

as tired or low energy or low functioning as he should be. I wonder

what happens to the brain that allows a person to sleep little

without health problems?

There is a natural variance in sleep. Some people need only 4 hours per night while others need 12. 8 is only the average. When I was in high school and had a rigid schedule, I often slept only 4 or 5 hours each night and sometimes a short nap in the afternoon. These days I get about 8 or so but not at the same times. By that I mean I seem to run more on a 25 hour day rather than 24. If I'm not careful, my sleep schedule will wrap around the clock going forward an hour or two now and then.

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In a message dated 2/20/2006 12:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikecarrie01@... writes:

My husband has severe insomnia which started after he got hit on the

head as a child. He goes days without sleep and when he does sleep he

only gets an hour or two at a time and not more than 5 hours over the

course of the whole night at the most. He gets tired but not nearly

as tired or low energy or low functioning as he should be. I wonder

what happens to the brain that allows a person to sleep little

without health problems?

There is a natural variance in sleep. Some people need only 4 hours per night while others need 12. 8 is only the average. When I was in high school and had a rigid schedule, I often slept only 4 or 5 hours each night and sometimes a short nap in the afternoon. These days I get about 8 or so but not at the same times. By that I mean I seem to run more on a 25 hour day rather than 24. If I'm not careful, my sleep schedule will wrap around the clock going forward an hour or two now and then.

[Guest guest]

Really? I'll have to look that up. When I was taking pineal gland

(where melatonin is manufactured) I slept the best I ever had but I

was afraid to keep taking it since my nutritionist/naturopath said it

was no longer indicated in my tests.

 Wow! This man must

really be an exception.

>

> I have an Aspie friend who has suffered from insomnia since he

was a child and is practically going nuts from sleep deprivation.

>

> Inger

>

>

> Man hasn't slept for 33 years

>

>

>

> Vietnam man handles three decades without sleep

>

>

>

> As songbirds awaken the early risers at dawn on the farm, one

resident is already up; in fact, he never slept †" not once in the

past 33 years.

> You’d think going without sleep for that long may have its

drawbacks, but not for the man in central Quang Nam province who has

never been ill after decades of insomnia.

>

> His inability to sleep has not only made him famous, but also

represents a “miraculous†phenomenon worthy of scientific study.

>

> Sixty-four-year-old Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he could not

sleep at night after getting a fever in 1973, and has counted

infinite numbers of sheep during more than 11,700 consecutive

sleepless nights.

>

> “I don’t know whether the insomnia has impacted my health or

not. But I’m still healthy and can farm normally like others,â€

Ngoc said.

>

> Proving his health, the elderly resident of Que Trung commune, Que

Son district said he can carry two 50kg bags of fertilizer down 4km

of road to return home every day.

>

> His wife said, “My husband used to sleep well, but these days,

even liquor cannot put him down.â€

>

> She said when Ngoc went to Da Nang for a medical examination,

doctors gave him a clean bill of health, except a minor decline in

liver function.

>

> Ngoc currently lives on his 5ha farm at the foot of a mountain busy

with farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six

children live at their house in Que Trung.

>

> “I have tried sleeping pills and Vietnamese traditional medicine

but nothing helps, even to sleep for a few minutes,†he said.

>

> Creature of the night

>

> Ngoc often does extra farm work or guards his farm at night to

prevent theft, saying he used three months of sleepless nights to dig

two large ponds to raise fish.

>

> Neighbor Vu said Ngoc volunteered to help beat a drum during the

night and guard the house for the relatives of the dead during

funeral ceremonies so that they could take a nap.

>

> Vu also said when the commune was planting sugar cane, several

people also asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work,

since he was up anyway

>

> On Ngoc’s prolonged insomnia, Phan Ngoc Ha, director of the Hoa

Khanh Mental Hospital in Danang said sleep disorders often cause

anorexia, lethargy, and irritability.

>

> But, in special cases, some people can handle it and still live and

work normally, although this was a very small ratio among insomniacs,

Ha added.

>

> Reported by Vu Phuong Thao †" Translated by Thu Thuy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Really? I'll have to look that up. When I was taking pineal gland

(where melatonin is manufactured) I slept the best I ever had but I

was afraid to keep taking it since my nutritionist/naturopath said it

was no longer indicated in my tests.

 Wow! This man must

really be an exception.

>

> I have an Aspie friend who has suffered from insomnia since he

was a child and is practically going nuts from sleep deprivation.

>

> Inger

>

>

> Man hasn't slept for 33 years

>

>

>

> Vietnam man handles three decades without sleep

>

>

>

> As songbirds awaken the early risers at dawn on the farm, one

resident is already up; in fact, he never slept †" not once in the

past 33 years.

> You’d think going without sleep for that long may have its

drawbacks, but not for the man in central Quang Nam province who has

never been ill after decades of insomnia.

>

> His inability to sleep has not only made him famous, but also

represents a “miraculous†phenomenon worthy of scientific study.

>

> Sixty-four-year-old Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he could not

sleep at night after getting a fever in 1973, and has counted

infinite numbers of sheep during more than 11,700 consecutive

sleepless nights.

>

> “I don’t know whether the insomnia has impacted my health or

not. But I’m still healthy and can farm normally like others,â€

Ngoc said.

>

> Proving his health, the elderly resident of Que Trung commune, Que

Son district said he can carry two 50kg bags of fertilizer down 4km

of road to return home every day.

>

> His wife said, “My husband used to sleep well, but these days,

even liquor cannot put him down.â€

>

> She said when Ngoc went to Da Nang for a medical examination,

doctors gave him a clean bill of health, except a minor decline in

liver function.

>

> Ngoc currently lives on his 5ha farm at the foot of a mountain busy

with farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six

children live at their house in Que Trung.

>

> “I have tried sleeping pills and Vietnamese traditional medicine

but nothing helps, even to sleep for a few minutes,†he said.

>

> Creature of the night

>

> Ngoc often does extra farm work or guards his farm at night to

prevent theft, saying he used three months of sleepless nights to dig

two large ponds to raise fish.

>

> Neighbor Vu said Ngoc volunteered to help beat a drum during the

night and guard the house for the relatives of the dead during

funeral ceremonies so that they could take a nap.

>

> Vu also said when the commune was planting sugar cane, several

people also asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work,

since he was up anyway

>

> On Ngoc’s prolonged insomnia, Phan Ngoc Ha, director of the Hoa

Khanh Mental Hospital in Danang said sleep disorders often cause

anorexia, lethargy, and irritability.

>

> But, in special cases, some people can handle it and still live and

work normally, although this was a very small ratio among insomniacs,

Ha added.

>

> Reported by Vu Phuong Thao †" Translated by Thu Thuy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, I wasn't being clear (as usual). IF he gets 5 hours of sleep

that's at the most. A typical sleep schedule for him might be (though

it's totally random):

Sunday: no sleep

Monday: 1 hour

Tuesday: no sleep

Wednesday: 3 hours total--woke up after each hour and stayed awake

for an 2 hours between each hour slept

Thursday: 2 hours total--woke up after 45 minutes, awake for 6 hours,

slept an hour and 15 mins

Friday: 5 hours total--woke up after two hours, stayed awake for an

hour, slept an hour, awake for an hour, slept an hour

Saturday: no sleep

>

> In a message dated 2/20/2006 12:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mikecarrie01@... writes:

>

>

> > My husband has severe insomnia which started after he got hit on

the

> > head as a child. He goes days without sleep and when he does

sleep he

> > only gets an hour or two at a time and not more than 5 hours over

the

> > course of the whole night at the most. He gets tired but not

nearly

> > as tired or low energy or low functioning as he should be. I

wonder

> > what happens to the brain that allows a person to sleep little

> > without health problems?

> >

>

> There is a natural variance in sleep. Some people need only 4 hours

per night

> while others need 12. 8 is only the average. When I was in high

school and

> had a rigid schedule, I often slept only 4 or 5 hours each night

and sometimes a

> short nap in the afternoon. These days I get about 8 or so but not

at the

> same times. By that I mean I seem to run more on a 25 hour day

rather than 24.

> If I'm not careful, my sleep schedule will wrap around the clock

going forward

> an hour or two now and then.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, I wasn't being clear (as usual). IF he gets 5 hours of sleep

that's at the most. A typical sleep schedule for him might be (though

it's totally random):

Sunday: no sleep

Monday: 1 hour

Tuesday: no sleep

Wednesday: 3 hours total--woke up after each hour and stayed awake

for an 2 hours between each hour slept

Thursday: 2 hours total--woke up after 45 minutes, awake for 6 hours,

slept an hour and 15 mins

Friday: 5 hours total--woke up after two hours, stayed awake for an

hour, slept an hour, awake for an hour, slept an hour

Saturday: no sleep

>

> In a message dated 2/20/2006 12:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mikecarrie01@... writes:

>

>

> > My husband has severe insomnia which started after he got hit on

the

> > head as a child. He goes days without sleep and when he does

sleep he

> > only gets an hour or two at a time and not more than 5 hours over

the

> > course of the whole night at the most. He gets tired but not

nearly

> > as tired or low energy or low functioning as he should be. I

wonder

> > what happens to the brain that allows a person to sleep little

> > without health problems?

> >

>

> There is a natural variance in sleep. Some people need only 4 hours

per night

> while others need 12. 8 is only the average. When I was in high

school and

> had a rigid schedule, I often slept only 4 or 5 hours each night

and sometimes a

> short nap in the afternoon. These days I get about 8 or so but not

at the

> same times. By that I mean I seem to run more on a 25 hour day

rather than 24.

> If I'm not careful, my sleep schedule will wrap around the clock

going forward

> an hour or two now and then.

>

>

>