Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane@...>Group Leader <Lipitor >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PMSubject: All In Good Taste Group,Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue.For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives.Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there.T/ Chicago, ILhttp://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane@...>Group Leader <Lipitor >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PMSubject: All In Good Taste Group,Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue.For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives.Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there.T/ Chicago, ILhttp://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Kay,Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards,T/Chicago, IlFrom: kay graham <canadiankayte@...>Lipitor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com>Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PMSubject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group,Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue.For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives.Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there.T/ Chicago, ILhttp://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Kay,Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards,T/Chicago, IlFrom: kay graham <canadiankayte@...>Lipitor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com>Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PMSubject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group,Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue.For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives.Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there.T/ Chicago, ILhttp://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. Quantum is available at http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034. Mike From: Lipitor [mailto:Lipitor ] On Behalf Of kay graham Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:37 AM To: Lipitor Subject: Re: All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane@...> Group Leader <Lipitor > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated " he never heard of that symptom " but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. Quantum is available at http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034. Mike From: Lipitor [mailto:Lipitor ] On Behalf Of kay graham Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:37 AM To: Lipitor Subject: Re: All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane@...> Group Leader <Lipitor > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated " he never heard of that symptom " but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@...> To: Lipitor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@...> To: Lipitor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Mike Shea wrote: > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > Quantum is available at > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>. > > > > Mike To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Mike Shea wrote: > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > Quantum is available at > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>. > > > > Mike To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I take COQ10 300 mgs daily - plus Glucosamine Sulphate 1500mgs/Chondroitin 1200mgs and Cod Liver Oil 1000mgs. After 6 months of not taking the Statins and taking the above, I feel so much better.PamelaSP > > Kay, > > Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both > > mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. > > > > Best regards, > > > > T/ > > Chicago, Il > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* kay graham <canadiankayte@...> > > *To:* Lipitor > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM > > *Subject:* Re: All In Good Taste > > > > can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> > > *To:* Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> > > *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM > > *Subject:* [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste > > > > > > Group, > > Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other > > pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult > > to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk > > factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly > > queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the > > Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during > > office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the > > beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while > > trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after > > two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I > > discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated " he never heard > > of that symptom " but did not push me to continue. > > > > For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after > > now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking > > Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste > > equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective > > in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. > > > > Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. > > > > T/ > > Chicago, IL > > > > > > > > > > http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle <http://st.com/lifestyle> > > s/ci_10819814? source=email > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Looking for the perfect gift?* Give the gift of Flickr!* > > <http://www.flickr.com/gift/> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I take COQ10 300 mgs daily - plus Glucosamine Sulphate 1500mgs/Chondroitin 1200mgs and Cod Liver Oil 1000mgs. After 6 months of not taking the Statins and taking the above, I feel so much better.PamelaSP > > Kay, > > Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both > > mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. > > > > Best regards, > > > > T/ > > Chicago, Il > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* kay graham <canadiankayte@...> > > *To:* Lipitor > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM > > *Subject:* Re: All In Good Taste > > > > can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> > > *To:* Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> > > *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM > > *Subject:* [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste > > > > > > Group, > > Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other > > pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult > > to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk > > factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly > > queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the > > Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during > > office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the > > beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while > > trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after > > two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I > > discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated " he never heard > > of that symptom " but did not push me to continue. > > > > For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after > > now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking > > Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste > > equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective > > in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. > > > > Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. > > > > T/ > > Chicago, IL > > > > > > > > > > http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle <http://st.com/lifestyle> > > s/ci_10819814? source=email > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Looking for the perfect gift?* Give the gift of Flickr!* > > <http://www.flickr.com/gift/> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I take 2,000 mg wild alaskan salmon oil per day, and 100 mg CoQ10. Bobby > > > > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > > > Quantum is available at > > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>. > > > > > > > > Mike > > To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If > one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a > wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I take 2,000 mg wild alaskan salmon oil per day, and 100 mg CoQ10. Bobby > > > > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > > > Quantum is available at > > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>. > > > > > > > > Mike > > To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If > one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a > wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Thanks to you all for your help. Already taking fish oil 1000 mgm per day, should I take more?G.ReevesFrom: Lee Schelin <LSchelin@...>Lipitor Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:47:29 AMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@ .ca> To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Thanks to you all for your help. Already taking fish oil 1000 mgm per day, should I take more?G.ReevesFrom: Lee Schelin <LSchelin@...>Lipitor Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:47:29 AMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@ .ca> To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Steve: Where did the 2.5 grams number come from? Mike Re: All In Good Taste Mike Shea wrote: > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > Quantum is available at > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>. > > > > Mike To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Steve: Where did the 2.5 grams number come from? Mike Re: All In Good Taste Mike Shea wrote: > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > Quantum is available at > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>. > > > > Mike To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 So Lee,As former natural fats and oils chemist for some 30 years I wonder just why you prefer the Krill Oil to the other C-18 unsaturated fatty acids like fish and olive oil. Not disputing but just wondering as I see many flavors of various oils on the health market these days.T/ Chicago, ILFrom: Lee Schelin <LSchelin@...>To: Lipitor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:47:29 PMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@ .ca> To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 So Lee,As former natural fats and oils chemist for some 30 years I wonder just why you prefer the Krill Oil to the other C-18 unsaturated fatty acids like fish and olive oil. Not disputing but just wondering as I see many flavors of various oils on the health market these days.T/ Chicago, ILFrom: Lee Schelin <LSchelin@...>To: Lipitor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:47:29 PMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@ .ca> To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 So Gloria,In my uneducated opinion how much you take is dependent on your current health status and meds package. I personally found it interesting that by increasing my daily dosage to 2,400 mg my blood pressure returned to 120/70 which negated need to take other scrip drugs.Hope this helps.T/Chicago, IlFrom: Gloria Reeves <g.reeves64@...>To: Lipitor Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:26:55 AMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste Thanks to you all for your help. Already taking fish oil 1000 mgm per day, should I take more?G.ReevesFrom: Lee Schelin <LSchelinVerizon (DOT) net>TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:47:29 AMSubject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@ .ca> To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 So Gloria,In my uneducated opinion how much you take is dependent on your current health status and meds package. I personally found it interesting that by increasing my daily dosage to 2,400 mg my blood pressure returned to 120/70 which negated need to take other scrip drugs.Hope this helps.T/Chicago, IlFrom: Gloria Reeves <g.reeves64@...>To: Lipitor Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:26:55 AMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste Thanks to you all for your help. Already taking fish oil 1000 mgm per day, should I take more?G.ReevesFrom: Lee Schelin <LSchelinVerizon (DOT) net>TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:47:29 AMSubject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@ .ca> To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Thanks for your input. My only health problems are elevated cholestrol & trig. I do take meds for RLS but I am not hypertensive.Thanks again, Gloria ReevesFrom: Toe Newman <yallethane@...>Lipitor Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:16:04 PMSubject: Re: All In Good Taste So Gloria,In my uneducated opinion how much you take is dependent on your current health status and meds package. I personally found it interesting that by increasing my daily dosage to 2,400 mg my blood pressure returned to 120/70 which negated need to take other scrip drugs.Hope this helps.T/Chicago, IlFrom: Gloria Reeves <g.reeves64 (DOT) com>To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:26:55 AMSubject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Thanks to you all for your help. Already taking fish oil 1000 mgm per day, should I take more?G.ReevesFrom: Lee Schelin <LSchelinVerizon (DOT) net>TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:47:29 AMSubject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste I take CoQ10 also but I take Krill Oil instead of Fish Oil Lee... Toe Newman wrote: Kay, Am taking 2400 mg fish oil and 200 mg CoQ10 on daily basis. Take both mid-afternoon so not adsorbed by increased fiber diet in morning meal. Best regards, T/ Chicago, Il From: kay graham <canadiankayte@ .ca> To: TakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste can you advise me on fish oil and dosage please? Kay From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com> Group Leader <takinglipitorandhat eitgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34:15 PM Subject: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] All In Good Taste Group, Attached article great insight on effects of both statins and other pre-/post MI drugs on our respective lifestyle. I found it difficult to adjust my scratch cooking style to eliminate the dietary risk factors while at the same time my sense of taste was increasingly queered by strong inorganic-metallic taste in the pallet. Both the Primary MD and Cardio trivalized my comments on this subject during office visits but the effects lingered as I reverse titrated off the beta blockers and statins. There was a short period of time while trying to include HCTZ diuretic into the daily meds package and after two weeks the increasing bitter taste was literally gagging and I discontinued that drug. Once again the Primary stated "he never heard of that symptom" but did not push me to continue. For what it's worth this aspect, at least for me, was reversable after now some 6 months after discontinuing the statins. Still taking Plavix and Avapro so they at least for me are not in that taste equation. Increasing daily intake of fish oil was just as effective in reducing BP as that HCTZ without all of the negatives. Hope this helps some questions and concerns out there. T/ Chicago, IL http://www.denverpo st.com/lifestyle s/ci_10819814? source=email Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Here is the fish oil product at lef.org (the life extension foundation) http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00982/Super-Omega-3-EPA-DHA-with-Ses\ ame-Lignans-Olive-Fruit-Extract.html There recommend dose contains 1200 mg of DHA + EPA twice a day for a total of 2.4 grams. I've also read their articles regularly and 2.4 grams was the number that they put together from " their " reading of the medical literature. I've been trying to search PubMed but tonight all I get is abstract titles and it won't display the abstract. Thinking it was a quirk in my browser, that somehow I had some settings off I tried IE and still, PubMed is failing. Perhaps tomorrow it will be back up so I can do some searching. As I recall, a traditional Japanese diet (low cardiovascular disease) contained about 3 grams of EPA+DHA but in regular news stores from searching the web, I'm getting numbers from 1.3 grams on up. News stories tend to get the facts wrong or make huge assumptive leaps, hence, my reason for looking for good references. Steve Mike Shea wrote: > > > Steve: > Where did the 2.5 grams number come from? > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > Mike Shea wrote: > > > > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > > > Quantum is available at > > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034> > > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>>. > > > > > > > > Mike > > To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If > one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a > wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Here is the fish oil product at lef.org (the life extension foundation) http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00982/Super-Omega-3-EPA-DHA-with-Ses\ ame-Lignans-Olive-Fruit-Extract.html There recommend dose contains 1200 mg of DHA + EPA twice a day for a total of 2.4 grams. I've also read their articles regularly and 2.4 grams was the number that they put together from " their " reading of the medical literature. I've been trying to search PubMed but tonight all I get is abstract titles and it won't display the abstract. Thinking it was a quirk in my browser, that somehow I had some settings off I tried IE and still, PubMed is failing. Perhaps tomorrow it will be back up so I can do some searching. As I recall, a traditional Japanese diet (low cardiovascular disease) contained about 3 grams of EPA+DHA but in regular news stores from searching the web, I'm getting numbers from 1.3 grams on up. News stories tend to get the facts wrong or make huge assumptive leaps, hence, my reason for looking for good references. Steve Mike Shea wrote: > > > Steve: > Where did the 2.5 grams number come from? > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > Mike Shea wrote: > > > > > > From what I have gathered you want high quality good old fashioned Cod > > Liver Oil. High in all the good stuff, A,D and some E as a side benefit. > > > > Quantum is available at > > http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034> > > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034 > <http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/prod.cfm/ct/4/pid/1034>>. > > > > > > > > Mike > > To get the 2.5 grams/day of EPA+DHA one has to take enough fish oil. If > one used Cod Liver Oil, one will get 5 TIMES the RDA of vitamin A, not a > wise decision. Other fish oils don't have the vitamin A problem. > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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