Re: Re: Another mew member with questions, forgot something!

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Hi again,

I forgot to mention that on FRiday night I did not

take the Lipitor but did on Saturday night. All

Saturday night, I was having cramping on my calves. I

never get this, could it be the Lipitor? I did not

take it last night and no cramps.

--- teresa stuart <lilliebelle3@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> I was put on 10 Mg's of Lipitor every night about 1

> 5

> weeks ago. My total Cholesterol was 204, my HDL was

> 16 points over normal and LDL was fine, my trigs.

> were

> 118. I am also a severe Hypoglycemic. I had had

> several lab tests, and it seems as though my

> pancreas

> shoots out too much insulin which causes my blood

> sugar to drop. My Endocrinologist put me on Metforim

> 250 MG at night only. I do not have Insulin

> Resistance. I am worried about taking 10 Mg's of

> Lipitor every night and sometimes I skip nights

> taking

> it. I am wondering if I should just quit taking it

> all

> together. After taking it 8 nights my Total Chol.

> went down to 130. I am also taking 3,000 mg´s of

> Vitamin C daily, Omega 3 , three times a day, a

> Vitamin B complex 3 times a day and CoQ10 120mg

> daily.

> I am a 48 year old female. I follow a very low carb

> diet for my hypoglycemia. I eat protein, nuts, and

> veggies. I do not eat sugar, fruit (rarely), starchy

> veggies, beans, bread, cereal, grains, milk, yogurt,

> pasta, rice etc. I also do not consume any

> artificial

> sweetener, such as Equal (Nutra Sweet), which makes

> my

> blood sugar drop.

> Can anyone advice me here? I don't want to take the

> Lipitor, was my Total Cholesterol reading of 204

> that

> bad, now it is 130. I cannot adjust my diet due to

> the hypoglycemia.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I wanted to add that because of my severe

hypoglycemia, I cannot do much exercise also. I have

to eat every 2 1/2 hours or else. I don´t think my

Endocrinologist knows what he is doing. So a total

204 is just fine right? Are all of you on low fat,

high carb diets? That would kill me for sure.

Thanks,

--- jlkinkona <josephine@...> wrote:

> ,

> My gut feeling is that the cramps are

> lipitor-induced.If you go to

> the forum at Spacedoc.com you will read about the

> hundreds of folks

> who have suffered from taking statin drugs and have

> not recovered.

> Your cholesterol at 204 was fine. A cholesterol of

> 130 is TOO LOW.

> You should not go below 180. Keep up the supplement

> regimen and add a

> good multi and Gamma E. The doctors are being misled

> by drug

> companies and we are the ones suffering from it. jlk

>

>

> >

> > Hi again,

> > I forgot to mention that on FRiday night I did not

> > take the Lipitor but did on Saturday night. All

> > Saturday night, I was having cramping on my

> calves. I

> > never get this, could it be the Lipitor? I did not

> > take it last night and no cramps.

> >

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I wanted to add that because of my severe

hypoglycemia, I cannot do much exercise also. I have

to eat every 2 1/2 hours or else. I don´t think my

Endocrinologist knows what he is doing. So a total

204 is just fine right? Are all of you on low fat,

high carb diets? That would kill me for sure.

Thanks,

--- jlkinkona <josephine@...> wrote:

> ,

> My gut feeling is that the cramps are

> lipitor-induced.If you go to

> the forum at Spacedoc.com you will read about the

> hundreds of folks

> who have suffered from taking statin drugs and have

> not recovered.

> Your cholesterol at 204 was fine. A cholesterol of

> 130 is TOO LOW.

> You should not go below 180. Keep up the supplement

> regimen and add a

> good multi and Gamma E. The doctors are being misled

> by drug

> companies and we are the ones suffering from it. jlk

>

>

> >

> > Hi again,

> > I forgot to mention that on FRiday night I did not

> > take the Lipitor but did on Saturday night. All

> > Saturday night, I was having cramping on my

> calves. I

> > never get this, could it be the Lipitor? I did not

> > take it last night and no cramps.

> >

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

, I agree with phine 100%!!! Muscle pains are a

symptom of statin side effects. I also agree that a total cholesterol of

130 is TOO LOW. Cholesterol is needed by the body, especially the brain,

and a total of 204 is not bad at all. Also cholesterol increases with age

and the body must have a good reason for that. Another excellent website,

created by the owner of another statin group, has much worthwhile

information:

http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/

Diet?? NO, my wife and I are NOT on low fat, high carb diets. That is

exactly opposite of the diet that we are on. We eat grass fed beef, fish,

shell fish, and fresh, mostly organic, vegetables, drink raw milk, and

eat few sweets. We also avoid artificial sweeteners, and processed foods

in the grocery stores like the plague. Here is another website that says

exactly what we believe about diet:

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/dietguidelines.html

Probably more information than you wanted,

Gene

At 01:48 PM 8/27/2007, you wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to add that because of my severe

hypoglycemia, I cannot do much exercise also. I have

to eat every 2 1/2 hours or else. I don´t think my

Endocrinologist knows what he is doing. So a total

204 is just fine right? Are all of you on low fat,

high carb diets? That would kill me for sure.

Thanks,

--- jlkinkona

<josephine@...

> wrote:

> ,

> My gut feeling is that the cramps are

> lipitor-induced.If you go to

> the forum at Spacedoc.com you will read about the

> hundreds of folks

> who have suffered from taking statin drugs and have

> not recovered.

> Your cholesterol at 204 was fine. A cholesterol of

> 130 is TOO LOW.

> You should not go below 180. Keep up the supplement

> regimen and add a

> good multi and Gamma E. The doctors are being misled

> by drug

> companies and we are the ones suffering from it. jlk

>

>

> >

> > Hi again,

> > I forgot to mention that on FRiday night I did not

> > take the Lipitor but did on Saturday night. All

> > Saturday night, I was having cramping on my

> calves. I

> > never get this, could it be the Lipitor? I did not

> > take it last night and no cramps.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, I agree with phine 100%!!! Muscle pains are a

symptom of statin side effects. I also agree that a total cholesterol of

130 is TOO LOW. Cholesterol is needed by the body, especially the brain,

and a total of 204 is not bad at all. Also cholesterol increases with age

and the body must have a good reason for that. Another excellent website,

created by the owner of another statin group, has much worthwhile

information:

http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/

Diet?? NO, my wife and I are NOT on low fat, high carb diets. That is

exactly opposite of the diet that we are on. We eat grass fed beef, fish,

shell fish, and fresh, mostly organic, vegetables, drink raw milk, and

eat few sweets. We also avoid artificial sweeteners, and processed foods

in the grocery stores like the plague. Here is another website that says

exactly what we believe about diet:

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/dietguidelines.html

Probably more information than you wanted,

Gene

At 01:48 PM 8/27/2007, you wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to add that because of my severe

hypoglycemia, I cannot do much exercise also. I have

to eat every 2 1/2 hours or else. I don´t think my

Endocrinologist knows what he is doing. So a total

204 is just fine right? Are all of you on low fat,

high carb diets? That would kill me for sure.

Thanks,

--- jlkinkona

<josephine@...

> wrote:

> ,

> My gut feeling is that the cramps are

> lipitor-induced.If you go to

> the forum at Spacedoc.com you will read about the

> hundreds of folks

> who have suffered from taking statin drugs and have

> not recovered.

> Your cholesterol at 204 was fine. A cholesterol of

> 130 is TOO LOW.

> You should not go below 180. Keep up the supplement

> regimen and add a

> good multi and Gamma E. The doctors are being misled

> by drug

> companies and we are the ones suffering from it. jlk

>

>

> >

> > Hi again,

> > I forgot to mention that on FRiday night I did not

> > take the Lipitor but did on Saturday night. All

> > Saturday night, I was having cramping on my

> calves. I

> > never get this, could it be the Lipitor? I did not

> > take it last night and no cramps.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I will almost guarantee you the cramps are due to lipitor. I had HORRIBLE leg cramps until I got off it and almost quit running forever. I am now running like the wind. Get off this poison, eat right, exercise and forget about cholesterol. Their darn ads even state that these drugs have NOT been shown to prevent heart disease or heart attacks. There was a very minor benefit of lowering cholesterol among people with proven heart diseases. Meanwhile your coenzyme Q10 is goiing down and THAT will harm you greatly. Kipteresa stuart <lilliebelle3@...> wrote: Hi again,I forgot to mention that on FRiday night I did nottake the Lipitor but did on Saturday night. AllSaturday night, I was having cramping on my calves. Inever get this, could it be the Lipitor? I did nottake it last night and no cramps.--- teresa stuart <lilliebelle3 > wrote:> Hi,> I was put on 10 Mg's of Lipitor every night about 1> 5> weeks ago. My total Cholesterol was 204, my HDL was> 16 points over normal and LDL was fine, my trigs.> were> 118. I am also a severe Hypoglycemic. I had had> several lab tests, and it seems as though my> pancreas> shoots out too much insulin which causes my blood> sugar to drop. My Endocrinologist put me on Metforim> 250 MG at night only. I do not have

Insulin> Resistance. I am worried about taking 10 Mg's of> Lipitor every night and sometimes I skip nights> taking> it. I am wondering if I should just quit taking it> all> together. After taking it 8 nights my Total Chol.> went down to 130. I am also taking 3,000 mg´s of> Vitamin C daily, Omega 3 , three times a day, a> Vitamin B complex 3 times a day and CoQ10 120mg> daily.> I am a 48 year old female. I follow a very low carb> diet for my hypoglycemia. I eat protein, nuts, and> veggies. I do not eat sugar, fruit (rarely), starchy> veggies, beans, bread, cereal, grains, milk, yogurt,> pasta, rice etc. I also do not consume any> artificial> sweetener, such as Equal (Nutra Sweet), which makes> my> blood sugar drop. > Can anyone advice me here? I don't want to take the> Lipitor, was my Total Cholesterol reading of 204>

that> bad, now it is 130. I cannot adjust my diet due to> the hypoglycemia. > > Thanks,> > > > >__________________________________________________________> Park yourself in front of a world of choices in> alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green> Center.> http://autos./green_center/ > __________________________________________________________Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.http://sims./

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kip,

I am now off Lipitor since last Sat. night. If my

Cholesterol went from 204 to 130 after 8 pills, I

don´t know how low it went after taking the 30 pills I

took.

I have to eat the way I do because of my hypoglycemia,

if I ate a diet low fat/high carb, I would pass out

and probably die one day.

My diet is just about like the South Beach Diet Phase

I. Meaning: eggs, meat, chicken, turkey, cheese,

bacon, avocados, veggies(non starch only), nuts, olive

oil, butter. I do not eat any grain, rice,

sugar,milk, yogurt, artificial sweeteners. I eat on

occasion low glycemic fruits such as melon and

strawberries(twice a week). I don´t know if this diet

sounds good to all on this list, but I have no other

choice but to eat this way. Actually, I eat nothing

that cannot be killed, picked or milked, fished. I eat

nothing in a box, I eat real food.

--- Kip Cleaver <kipcleaver@...> wrote:

> I will almost guarantee you the cramps are due to

> lipitor. I had HORRIBLE leg cramps until I got off

> it and almost quit running forever. I am now running

> like the wind. Get off this poison, eat right,

> exercise and forget about cholesterol.

>

> Their darn ads even state that these drugs have

> NOT been shown to prevent heart disease or heart

> attacks. There was a very minor benefit of lowering

> cholesterol among people with proven heart diseases.

> Meanwhile your coenzyme Q10 is goiing down and THAT

> will harm you greatly.

>

> Kip

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Gene,

Your diet looks just like mine except for the milk. I

think it is the best diet. I don´t know why Doctor´s

try to put everyone on high carb/low fat diets. I

think that is what is killing everyone, all that

processed food and trans fats, white flour and sugar

and artificial sweeteners. I say if you cannot pick

it, milk it or kill it, do not eat it. I also stay

away from caffeine, it stimulates the insulin and

adrenal glands. I do miss my coffee though.

--- Gene Wolfe <genew@...> wrote:

> , I agree with phine 100%!!! Muscle

> pains are a symptom of statin side effects. I

> also agree that a total cholesterol of 130 is TOO

> LOW. Cholesterol is needed by the body,

> especially the brain, and a total of 204 is not

> bad at all. Also cholesterol increases with age

> and the body must have a good reason for that.

> Another excellent website, created by the owner

> of another statin group, has much worthwhile

> information:

>

> http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/

>

> Diet?? NO, my wife and I are NOT on low fat, high

> carb diets. That is exactly opposite of the diet

> that we are on. We eat grass fed beef, fish,

> shell fish, and fresh, mostly organic,

> vegetables, drink raw milk, and eat few sweets.

> We also avoid artificial sweeteners, and

> processed foods in the grocery stores like the

> plague. Here is another website that says exactly

> what we believe about diet:

>

>

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/dietguidelines.html

>

> Probably more information than you wanted,

> Gene

>

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