Re: snowed in!

[Guest guest]

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Not yet. This part of Virginia may be getting either rain or sleet tomorrow but we'll have to wait and see. We usually don't get our heavy weather until January and February though. This street is also one of the last to get cleared, but that isn't really a problem. If the weather is looking back in the long range forecast, I'll stock up before the rush and we have the emergency supply cache in the basement as well. Heat shouldn't be a problem either since we have a kerosene heater that we will put in the fireplace for ventilation and when that runs out I can go out and gathers branches and hack up some of the dead trees if I have to. But before it got that bad I think we'd be off to a hotel.

PS I tolerate the cold better than the heat too. It is easier to deal with the cold because you can dress in layers to adapt. But with the heat you could be stark naked and it wouldn't make any difference. snowed in!

Accumalation of 6 inches or more! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!I'm in Iowa and I live on a deadend street with about 30 households on it. We are one of the LAST streets in the city to get plowed. I'm snowed in. But that's ok. There was a Christmas play/musical at church tonight that I can't go to. Just as well. I wasn't too interested in it anyway, but I feel bad for the people who put so much work in and few people will see it. Otherwise I like the winter -- not the darkness so much but I don't mind the cold. When it's really cold (e.g., below zero) I don't like it, but I'd much rather have it be extremely cold than extremely hot. I HATE the heat of the summer.Anyone else snowed in? and the zoo.FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites."

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Much snow here in Sweden too this week. Haven't tried to get out yet so I don't know if I'm snowed in or not.

I sort of like snow, just wish it wasn't so cold. (Don't like heat either.)

Inger

snowed in!

Accumalation of 6 inches or more! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!I'm in Iowa and I live on a deadend street with about 30 households on it. We are one of the LAST streets in the city to get plowed. I'm snowed in. But that's ok. There was a Christmas play/musical at church tonight that I can't go to. Just as well. I wasn't too interested in it anyway, but I feel bad for the people who put so much work in and few people will see it. Otherwise I like the winter -- not the darkness so much but I don't mind the cold. When it's really cold (e.g., below zero) I don't like it, but I'd much rather have it be extremely cold than extremely hot. I HATE the heat of the summer.Anyone else snowed in? and the zoo.

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In a message dated 12/4/2005 12:05:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hug.groups@... writes:

Sounds like you get really prepared! I never pack in that much -- the street will be clear by tomorrow afternoon. It would have been clear by 5:00 pm if it had been a work day. My regular grocery supply on hand is plenty. Heat is no problem other than trying to conserve it because of the costs.

I started keeping a supply on hand after the hurricanes left us without power for a week or more several times. Before long I'm going to break down and buy a small generator to run the 'fridge and the microwave about a couple of other things. That's something I've been putting off since we usually go to a hotel if the power is out for a long time.

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In a message dated 12/4/2005 2:39:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

There is preparedness and there is panic.

Tom,

I also think it is because we learn from the past and mistakes.

The first bad power outage we had was during an ice storm in 1998 to 1999 (it happened over Christmas). We were without power for about 15 days. For the first several days we had no real source of heat or means to prepare food and didn't have large stocks. We ended up going to a hotel, which the insurance covered because of the power outage.

Later, we had some hurricanes come through that knocked out power anywhere from 5 to 14 days. I try to keep at least a week of food on hand as well as means to cook the canned stuff. Now I have good quality space blankets for heat, a manual water filter pump so I could get water from near the creek, a couple of wind up flashlights, long-lasting LED lanterns, two radios (one old model weather radio and a newer one) and even a battery powered TV. This is stored in two containers, one for food items and the rest in the other. Both are kept in the basement. If we had to, They could be carried out to the car and taken with us.

Most other people think that's funny, as is my wanting to get a generator. However, several people in the neighborhood have them already but most do not.

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In a message dated 12/4/2005 2:29:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

But I like darkness and hate sunlight.

I often sit in the dark too especially when on the computer or watching TV. My mother doesn't like me doing that because she can't tell if I'm awake or not at night because its quiet (rarely have the TV up very high because my hearing is still pretty good).

That's one reason I'd like to have a partly underground house. It would be well insulated from the elements but also noise. What I would really like is a bedroom or suite completely underground with no windows, but I think building codes won't allow that. Still, I could but an escape passage out as a fire escape, that might work. I'll worry about that when I build my own place one of these days.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you get really prepared! I never

pack in that much -- the street will be clear by tomorrow afternoon.

It would have been clear by 5:00 pm if it had been a work day. My

regular grocery supply on hand is plenty. Heat is no problem other

than trying to conserve it because of the costs.

It is weird though about the rush at the grocery stores when the

weather is "bad." The absolute MOST that anyone here would be unable

to get to the store would be 3 days, if that. Yet there is a huge run

to the store of people stocking up for the bad weather. I'm sure that

99.99% of those people have plenty of food to last a couple of days.

If I run out of milk before I can get to the store, I'll be a little

bummed but it is certainly NO emergency.

and the zoo.

VISIGOTH@... wrote:

,

Not yet. This part of Virginia may be getting either rain or

sleet tomorrow but we'll have to wait and see. We usually don't get our

heavy weather until January and February though. This street is also

one of the last to get cleared, but that isn't really a problem. If the

weather is looking back in the long range forecast, I'll stock up

before the rush and we have the emergency supply cache in the basement

as well. Heat shouldn't be a problem either since we have a kerosene

heater that we will put in the fireplace for ventilation and when that

runs out I can go out and gathers branches and hack up some of the dead

trees if I have to. But before it got that bad I think we'd be off to a

hotel.

PS I tolerate the cold better than the heat too. It is easier to

deal with the cold because you can dress in layers to adapt. But with

the heat you could be stark naked and it wouldn't make any difference.

snowed in!

Accumalation

of 6 inches or more! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I'm in Iowa and I live on a deadend street with about 30 households on

it. We are one of the LAST streets in the city to get plowed. I'm

snowed in. But that's ok. There was a Christmas play/musical at

church tonight that I can't go to. Just as well. I wasn't too

interested in it anyway, but I feel bad for the people who put so much

work in and few people will see it.

Otherwise I like the winter -- not the darkness so much but I don't

mind the cold. When it's really cold (e.g., below zero) I don't like

it, but I'd much rather have it be extremely cold than extremely hot.

I HATE the heat of the summer.

Anyone else snowed in?

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Sounds like you get really prepared! I never

pack in that much -- the street will be clear by tomorrow afternoon.

It would have been clear by 5:00 pm if it had been a work day. My

regular grocery supply on hand is plenty. Heat is no problem other

than trying to conserve it because of the costs.

It is weird though about the rush at the grocery stores when the

weather is "bad." The absolute MOST that anyone here would be unable

to get to the store would be 3 days, if that. Yet there is a huge run

to the store of people stocking up for the bad weather. I'm sure that

99.99% of those people have plenty of food to last a couple of days.

If I run out of milk before I can get to the store, I'll be a little

bummed but it is certainly NO emergency.

and the zoo.

VISIGOTH@... wrote:

,

Not yet. This part of Virginia may be getting either rain or

sleet tomorrow but we'll have to wait and see. We usually don't get our

heavy weather until January and February though. This street is also

one of the last to get cleared, but that isn't really a problem. If the

weather is looking back in the long range forecast, I'll stock up

before the rush and we have the emergency supply cache in the basement

as well. Heat shouldn't be a problem either since we have a kerosene

heater that we will put in the fireplace for ventilation and when that

runs out I can go out and gathers branches and hack up some of the dead

trees if I have to. But before it got that bad I think we'd be off to a

hotel.

PS I tolerate the cold better than the heat too. It is easier to

deal with the cold because you can dress in layers to adapt. But with

the heat you could be stark naked and it wouldn't make any difference.

snowed in!

Accumalation

of 6 inches or more! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I'm in Iowa and I live on a deadend street with about 30 households on

it. We are one of the LAST streets in the city to get plowed. I'm

snowed in. But that's ok. There was a Christmas play/musical at

church tonight that I can't go to. Just as well. I wasn't too

interested in it anyway, but I feel bad for the people who put so much

work in and few people will see it.

Otherwise I like the winter -- not the darkness so much but I don't

mind the cold. When it's really cold (e.g., below zero) I don't like

it, but I'd much rather have it be extremely cold than extremely hot.

I HATE the heat of the summer.

Anyone else snowed in?

and the zoo.

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support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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[Guest guest]

and the zoo:

> If I run out of milk before I can get to the store, I'll be a little bummed but it is certainly NO emergency.I don't drink milk but I always have some dried milk at home if I get unexpected guests that want milk in their tea. Could that be an alternative for you?

Inger

[Guest guest]

I love snow!

They promised us 2-4 inches tonight but we only got an inch. I

bought gas for the snow blower just in case but I guess I'll do it by

hand.

I prefer the coldness of winter to the heat of summer also.

But I like darkness and hate sunlight.

Tom

Accumalation of 6 inches or more! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I'm in Iowa and I live on a deadend street with about 30 households

on it. We are one of the LAST streets in the city to get plowed.

I'm snowed in. But that's ok. There was a Christmas play/musical at

church tonight that I can't go to. Just as well. I wasn't too

interested in it anyway, but I feel bad for the people who put so

much work in and few people will see it.

Otherwise I like the winter -- not the darkness so much but I don't

mind the cold. When it's really cold (e.g., below zero) I don't like

it, but I'd much rather have it be extremely cold than extremely

hot. I HATE the heat of the summer.

Anyone else snowed in?

and the zoo.

[Guest guest]

There is preparedness and there is panic.

I think why people turn squirrel immediately before and after storms

is because they are impressed with the fact that they really weren't

prepared for them in the first place and so they tend to over-

compensate for them.

We once had a discussion in these forums about Aspies tending to

react calmly in emergencies. I think this may be because Aspies can

sense possibilities and probabilities better than other people can,

and so we may sometimes take foolish risks that aren't foolish, and

we may use prudence to anticipate disaster and thus avoid panic.

Non-Aspies, on the other hand, may just live more for the moment

without thought, feeling, or care about what might come next.

This is of course a supposition and a generalization on the one hand.

But on the other, the supposition and generalization is based on

observation of Aspies and non-Aspies alike, and the conclusions drawn

are based upon witnessed results that do tend to prove out the theory

that non-Aspies panic more than Aspies.

Tom

Administrator

It is weird though about the rush at the grocery stores when the

weather is " bad. " The absolute MOST that anyone here would be unable

to get to the store would be 3 days, if that. Yet there is a huge

run to the store of people stocking up for the bad weather. I'm sure

that 99.99% of those people have plenty of food to last a couple of

days. If I run out of milk before I can get to the store, I'll be a

little bummed but it is certainly NO emergency.

and the zoo.

[Guest guest]

We've had a little snow, but it didn't really settle - we've had a

few very cold days too - but so far it has been very mild for the

time of year.

The supermarkets are getting very busy though - but that seems to be

people stocking up for Christmas, which I don't personally get - why

do you have to eat more just because it's Christmas?

>

> Sounds like you get really prepared! I never pack in that much --

the

> street will be clear by tomorrow afternoon. It would have been

clear by

> 5:00 pm if it had been a work day. My regular grocery supply on

hand is

> plenty. Heat is no problem other than trying to conserve it

because of

> the costs.

>

> It is weird though about the rush at the grocery stores when the

weather

> is " bad. " The absolute MOST that anyone here would be unable to

get to

> the store would be 3 days, if that. Yet there is a huge run to the

> store of people stocking up for the bad weather. I'm sure that

99.99%

> of those people have plenty of food to last a couple of days. If I

run

> out of milk before I can get to the store, I'll be a little bummed

but

> it is certainly NO emergency.

>

> and the zoo.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/4/2005 9:42:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ojmalm@... writes:

We Norwegians call this "Speilhålke" (Mirror ice) because streets sometime is covered in almost transparent ice.

That's called black ice here in the states. It causes many auto accidents because you can't see it so when people hit it, they tend to lose control of the car. Mostly though we get this unpleasant looking stuff made when cars compact the snow into this sickly white and very slippery ice. Mixed in with the white is the sand and other stuff they put down to melt the ice.

That stuff is a real pain to get off the front steps and walk but there is a way around that. I found that by putting down a layer of cedar chips when the snow starts, it doesn't stick as well to the bricks. Then you can shovel it off easily and the cedar chips will just decay into the soil. The chips also work well on top of the ice for traction, provided the wind doesn't blow them away.

[Guest guest]

I live in central Norway, so yes, we have plenty of snow! we had a

little rain on wednesday, so after the cold came back, the streets

froze and became slippery as h... We Norwegians call

this " Speilhålke " (Mirror ice) because streets sometime is covered in

almost transparent ice.

>

> Much snow here in Sweden too this week. Haven't tried to get out

yet so I don't know if I'm snowed in or not.

>

> I sort of like snow, just wish it wasn't so cold. (Don't like heat

either.)

>

> Inger

>

>

>

>

> snowed in!

>

>

>

>

> Accumalation of 6 inches or more! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>

> I'm in Iowa and I live on a deadend street with about 30 households

on it. We are one of the LAST streets in the city to get plowed.

I'm snowed in. But that's ok. There was a Christmas play/musical at

church tonight that I can't go to. Just as well. I wasn't too

interested in it anyway, but I feel bad for the people who put so

much work in and few people will see it.

>

> Otherwise I like the winter -- not the darkness so much but I don't

mind the cold. When it's really cold (e.g., below zero) I don't like

it, but I'd much rather have it be extremely cold than extremely

hot. I HATE the heat of the summer.

>

> Anyone else snowed in?

>

> and the zoo.

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Inger Lorelei wrote:

and the zoo:

> If I run out of milk before I can get

to the store, I'll be a little bummed but it is certainly NO emergency.

I don't drink milk but I always have

some dried milk at home if I get unexpected guests that want milk

in their tea. Could that be an alternative for you?

Inger

I think in Europe you have decent dried milk. In

the States our powdered milk is just horrible. I gag to think about

it.

We tend to have lots and lots of fresh pasteurized milk. -- must be

refrigerated. I don't know exactly why we think cow's milk as almost a

perfect food, good for your bones, good for your health, etc. But we

do.

and the zoo.

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VISIGOTH@... wrote:

In a message dated 12/4/2005 12:05:06 A.M. Eastern Standard

Time, hug.groups@... writes:

Sounds like you get really prepared! I

never pack in that much -- the street will be clear by tomorrow

afternoon. It would have been clear by 5:00 pm if it had been a work

day. My regular grocery supply on hand is plenty. Heat is no problem

other than trying to conserve it because of the costs.

I started keeping a supply on hand after the hurricanes left us

without power for a week or more several times. Before long I'm going

to break down and buy a small generator to run the 'fridge and the

microwave about a couple of other things. That's something I've been

putting off since we usually go to a hotel if the power is out for a

long time.

That is a good reason to keep a supply on hand. I've never encountered

troubles like that before. Red Cross has always said that everyone

should have at least a week's worth of food on hand for any emergency.

Maybe I should think about that for myself.

and the zoo.

[Guest guest]

VISIGOTH@... wrote:

Most other people think that's funny, as is my wanting to get a

generator. However, several people in the neighborhood have them

already but most do not.

Nope. Not funny or weird at all. Generators are a good thing to have

on hand for sure.

I'm on a forum for aquariums and many people there have automatic

generators for their fish tanks. If someone has over $5000 invested in

a saltwater tank, a few hundred for a generator is nothing. Fish can't

survive if you can't regulate their water (filters, heaters,

bubblers). One person has a 525 gallon saltwater tank and he said that

he's spent about $25,000 on it to date.

and the zoo.

[Guest guest]

and the zoo:

> I don't know exactly why we think cow's milk as almost a perfect food, good for your bones, good for your health, etc. But we do. It is because those who sell it have been conspiring with authorities to spread this myth..

That milk CONTAINS calcium does not mean that the body will absorb it. Rather, milk lowers blood pH and may have quite the opposite effect. We usually absorb more calcium (and other good things) from green veggies.

I think milk IS a perfect food - for calves! ;-)

But darned good in your tea all the same. :-P

Inger

[Guest guest]

We've also got a generator and a healthy supply of food on hand.

I suppose my comments about people turning squirrels or panicking

before and after storms comes from frustration.

One gets tired of hearing " Hey! Can we borrow your generator? " from

neighbors who didn't think to buy their own in anticipation of a

power outage for example.

But it also seems that people -in a rush to protect themselves before

a storm- make insensible decisions about stocking up (buying sandwich

meat in copious quantities which will be sure to spoil if the power

outage is long enough) and make silly decisions afterwards. Is

hoarding food AFTER a storm a good idea? What purpose will it serve?

Can it all be eaten? Isn't the cost of the food you wind up wasting

because you can't eat it just about the cost of a generator for many

of these people that would paid for itself THE FIRST TIME by keeping

your hindquarter of beef and sic chickens in the freezer fresh

throughout the storm???

My family hardly wastes any food. We buy only what we can eat, and

everything that we store is used up oldest food first. Since we have

a pantry and a freezer, we can store enough to last us a month, and

the generator is strong enough to power the freezer in the summer and

the freezer and the furnace in the winter if you switch between the

two of them regularly.

Of course, when people ask to borrow the generator, they -having

absolutely no skill at planning for themselves- obviously don't

understand why it is we won't share with them, especially in the

winter (either the temperature outside is enough above freezing that

spoiling COULD occur, or the house will get cold). All they seem to

care about is getting angry with us instead of getting angry at their

own inability to plan for these events.

Tom

Administrator

Most other people think that's funny, as is my wanting to get a

generator. However, several people in the neighborhood have them

already but most do not.

Nope. Not funny or weird at all. Generators are a good thing to

have on hand for sure.

I'm on a forum for aquariums and many people there have automatic

generators for their fish tanks. If someone has over $5000 invested

in a saltwater tank, a few hundred for a generator is nothing. Fish

can't survive if you can't regulate their water (filters, heaters,

bubblers). One person has a 525 gallon saltwater tank and he said

that he's spent about $25,000 on it to date.

and the zoo.

[Guest guest]

It has been raining all day here and the temperature is just above freezing and it will dip below that tonight. Tomorrow we'll have streets of ice most likely. I've just come back in from laying down a layer of cedar chips on the front steps. They'll probably have ice on them in the morning but it will still be safer than walking down bare icy bricks.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/5/2005 6:53:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apeasant@... writes:

Where's here?

sburg, Virginia

[Guest guest]

that wouldn't be too likely to happen here in Georgia. Does it get cold? yes. It even has been known to snow, but generally not to the point of sticking. When it does stay down, one can usually get around in it. Schools will, however, close, if the buses are going to have a problem getting through. That happened once when I was at college, students and faculty could have gotten in wrecks. We had A LOT of folks driving to work and class. So for the most part, classes were cancelled. It was the teacher's discretion.Inger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote: Much snow here in Sweden too this week. Haven't tried to get out yet so I don't know if I'm snowed in or not. I sort of like snow, just wish it wasn't so cold. (Don't like heat either.) Inger snowed in! Accumalation of 6 inches or

more! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!I'm in Iowa and I live on a deadend street with about 30 households on it. We are one of the LAST streets in the city to get plowed. I'm snowed in. But that's ok. There was a Christmas play/musical at church tonight that I can't go to. Just as well. I wasn't too interested in it anyway, but I feel bad for the people who put so much work in and few people will see it. Otherwise I like the winter -- not the darkness so much but I don't mind the cold. When it's really cold (e.g., below zero) I don't like it, but I'd much rather have it be extremely cold than extremely hot. I HATE the heat of the summer.Anyone else snowed in? and the zoo. If you love something, set it free! So it is with books. See what I mean atwww.bookcrossing.com/friend/nheckoblogcritics.orghttp://notesfromnancy.blogspot.com Heckofreelance proofreadernancygailus@...

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First sign of a tiny little snowflake here - or a bit of frost forcast

and the school busses stop running - still better safe than sorry.

Also when I was at college in Bradford (UK) at the first sign of bad

weather it was important to get out as Bradford is kind of in a valley

and you could easily get stuck there.

>

> that wouldn't be too likely to happen here in Georgia. Does it get

cold? yes. It even has been known to snow, but generally not to the

point of sticking. When it does stay down, one can usually get around

in it. Schools will, however, close, if the buses are going to have a

problem getting through.

> That happened once when I was at college, students and faculty

could have gotten in wrecks. We had A LOT of folks driving to work and

class. So for the most part, classes were cancelled. It was the

teacher's discretion.

[Guest guest]

First sign of a tiny little snowflake here - or a bit of frost forcast

and the school busses stop running - still better safe than sorry.

Also when I was at college in Bradford (UK) at the first sign of bad

weather it was important to get out as Bradford is kind of in a valley

and you could easily get stuck there.

>

> that wouldn't be too likely to happen here in Georgia. Does it get

cold? yes. It even has been known to snow, but generally not to the

point of sticking. When it does stay down, one can usually get around

in it. Schools will, however, close, if the buses are going to have a

problem getting through.

> That happened once when I was at college, students and faculty

could have gotten in wrecks. We had A LOT of folks driving to work and

class. So for the most part, classes were cancelled. It was the

teacher's discretion.

[Guest guest]

Ah college!

This brings back fond memories about some of the weather we had when

I used to live on campus way back when.

1) I remember being in English Literature class in college when the

tornado alarm went off. We went from the second floor to the first

but did NOT go to the basement since it appeared that the funnel

cloud forming over Huskie Stadium four blocks away hadn't yet

materialized into a full-blown tornado.

I can remember my professor's voice to this day saying " If it

becomes a tornado, we'll go downstairs. Now does anyone want to tell

me who Swift's s are meant to satirize? "

2) We got snowed in one year, and the chefs couldn;t get in to cooks

us food, so the student workers broke into the freezer and we all

had hamburgers and fries galore for three meals in a row (breakfast

lunch and dinner). The next day it was back to the same old slop.

3) Fog. When the fog used to roll in off of the cornfields, it used

to blanket the whole area in silence and secrecy. Sometimes when I

walked to classes in this fog I used to pretend that the campus was

being transported to some far away land. The fog would lift and

everybody would freak out but me, who could survive in this strange

new Medeivel place.

But since that never happened, sometimes, usually around 8:00 or

9:00 at night, I would go over to the tracks and sit beside them.

You could hear the trains honking their horns forlornly in the

distance. Then you might hear the humming of the train engines, but,

oddly enough, not see the headlight until the very last minute when

a four engine hundred car frieght came barrelling out of the fog at

50 miles an hour like a ghost, the fog getting caught up in the

slipstream and following after it, swirling and making eerie shapes

well after the train had passed.

Tom

Administrator

" Also when I was at college in Bradford (UK) at the first sign of bad

weather it was important to get out as Bradford is kind of in a

valley and you could easily get stuck there.

"

[Guest guest]

>

> It has been raining all day here and the temperature is just above

freezing

> and it will dip below that tonight. Tomorrow we'll have streets of

ice most

> likely. I've just come back in from laying down a layer of cedar

chips on the

> front steps. They'll probably have ice on them in the morning but it

will

> still be safer than walking down bare icy bricks.

>

>

>

Where's here?