Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I gave money to help thr zoos down there recover. I was told the elephants were particularly happy to see their keepers/trainers again. Many of these animals were intelligent enough to understand the disaster that took place and suffered types of shock and trauma similar to what humans did. Recovery for them is in some cases slow and not easy because they now realize that their environments are not as predictablew as they had thought, and that they are confined - in other words, there are only so many places they can go in dangerous situations. Tom Tom's story about the zoo reminded me of a news story from the other day. The New Orleans Zoo has reopened. It never flooded and the worst damage was blown down trees. The humans weren't the only ones happy about this. The animals had actually been stressed by the lack of people around. It seems that they were used to and enjoyed having the people around. This makes sense to me. If these animals have had crowds around them just about every day all their lives, then the sudden disappearance of the those crowds would be a major change in their environment, probably more so that the hurricane damage. So, when the people came back, their environment was back to normal. I'm glad to hear they faired so well though. The Aquarium was a total loss from what I have gathered. Without power the pumps and filtration systems were shut down and just about all the fish died. That's a shame too because it was a one of the better aquariums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 In a message dated 11/30/2005 4:08:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mikecarrie01@... writes: I was asleep when a slight tremor hit. The bed started shaking and I thought it was my dog jumping on the bed (though she had been dead for 3 years). Then I thought it was demons until I heard a train sound and the windows rattling. Then I thought it was some high powered jets from the airbase. I'd never felt a tremor so I was shocked to learn later that it was a small earthquake. The first tremor I ever felt happened when I was in military school. It happened late one night my senior year and gave us a fair shaking. That quake as another 4 point something, which is the upper limit of what we get around here. It wasn't exactly chaos in out barracks but there were a lot of concerned cadets. This was an interesting study in leadership though. I was an officer then and one thing they told us in officer training was that our bearing was contagious to the "men". The company officer was looking really worried and was kind of hectic but I, a staff officer stayed calm. I went on the hall and told everyone it was just a little quake and that we get them from time to time, even though it was the first I had ever felt, but I didn't tell them that. I told everyone to stand in the doorway for a few minutes and stay quiet. So they could hear any orders and walked off to check the other halls and repeated this as necessary. It was interesting how a calm attitude from an officer could relax the men while an agitated officer could wind them up. Anyway, after a few minutes I went around telling everyone to go back to bed and not worry about it. If there were any aftershocks they would be mild and nothing to get worried about. With that we didn't have anymore trouble in the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Tom, In there quake here at the house, we were far enough away from the epicenter for the waves to separate from each other. The two types of waves actually travel at different speeds through the ground. Here, the first wave was the sharpest because that felt like a kick, like a bomb went off under the house or a big tree fell close by. The second was more of a side to side type of motion that rocked the house and made things fall over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 > > " I gave money to help thr zoos down there recover. " That was nice of you! > > " I was told the elephants were particularly happy to see their > keepers/trainers again. " Poor, intelligent, sensitive ones. It's too bad they have to be reliant on humans like that but then again, they form deep relationships with fellow elephants as well and miss them and mourn them when they die. > > " Many of these animals were intelligent enough to understand the > disaster that took place and suffered types of shock and trauma > similar to what humans did. " I heard that the more sensitive species died of shock. In the wild, animals know a disaster is coming and run. Where my husband is from, that's how they know a hurricane is coming (or at least before newscasting they did). They let any animals that they have fenced in go, the animals run for the hills and come back after everything has settled down. Maybe having their flight response deterred contributes towards those poor trapped animals' shock and deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Animals have sensory abilities most humans don't have. At shortly before 1:10:51 AM, Monday, June 28, 2004, the birds began to chirp and the neighborhood dogs began to bark. I thought I heard a low rumbling sound BEFORE the bed started to jolt up and down, so perhaps I was sensitive too. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqinthenews/2004/uskgad/The quake, centered in the central part of northern Illinois registered 4.2 on the Richter scale. I reported it to the USGS within a week. This was the fourth quake I have experienced, but only the third one I actually felt. This one started off little and finished off with three successive jolts, the last one being the largest. Nothing broke, but window pains rattled, my globes rattled on the bookshelves and, because they were placed so close to the wall, lightly banged against them. Something (probably a dry piece of wood) snapped in the attic.Afterwards, the birds chirped for a few minutes and then went back to bed. The dogs were silent almost immediately, but seemed a bit excited the next morning (which parenthetically suggests that dogs have a good memory contrary to what some scientists believe.)I only wish my cat had been alive to feel that. I would have loved to see what his reaction would have been.TomAdministratorI heard that the more sensitive species died of shock. In the wild, animals know a disaster is coming and run. Where my husband is from, that's how they know a hurricane is coming (or at least before newscasting they did). They let any animals that they have fenced in go, the animals run for the hills and come back after everything has settled down. Maybe having their flight response deterred contributes towards those poor trapped animals' shock and deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I was asleep when a slight tremor hit. The bed started shaking and I thought it was my dog jumping on the bed (though she had been dead for 3 years). Then I thought it was demons until I heard a train sound and the windows rattling. Then I thought it was some high powered jets from the airbase. I'd never felt a tremor so I was shocked to learn later that it was a small earthquake. > > I have felt all three quakes that have occurred around here. The last one > was during the day and there was noise going on and activity outside, so I can't > say how the wild animals acted. > > What I can say though is that the jolt from the first wave was nearly strong > enough to knock me out of the chair. It felt like someone kicked it from > below and then started shaking it around. My dog was on the sofa and she was > looking shocked. There was a noise like a deep machine rumble and I thought it > was the yardman grinding some of the stumps, so I ran for the door to tell him > to cut it out. > > Funny thing was that as soon as I stood up, the first wave stopped. Then I > got almost to the front door when the second wave hit and that was worse than > the first. I could actually see the curtains dancing and hear things falling > over. As soon as I stepped outside, I could barely feel it, even though I > could still see the curtains swaying. The yardman had actually finished what he > was doing and was leaving. I ran over to ask him if he noticed anything and he > said no. On the way back into the house, a neighbor had come outside and > told me it was an earthquake. > > Inside the door, my dog was waiting for me right at the door and was looking > really worried. So I put on her leash and took her for a walk. Seeing that > everything was still as it should be outside seemed to have calmed her nerves. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 The thing about the quake that shook me (pun intended) was that it was long lasting (I would say 15 seconds - less at the epicenter, longer with distance) and it got worse as it went on. I knew it was an earthquake from the beginning. No doubt about it in my mind. I had never in my life felt the bed move up and down like that. I didn't panic and had time to think that I wished it was a little bit rougher so I could experience it more...until the very end. The last five second the quake started to spiral upward in intensity and I began to think that maybe New Madrid was re-routing the Mississippi River or else the San s was reducing California to rubble in a big way and my quake was really the distant vibrations from either of them. The last jolt was the hardest one, and after it there was nothing. No winding down or anything. I thought to myself " Well, that was fun " and also I wished that it would have lasted longer. But because it lasted so long and ended so abruptly, it left me with a sense of unease. It was the strongest quake I can remember feeling and I had trouble convincing myself that it was an isolated quake. I figured maybe it was a foreshock to a bigger quake. Then the explanation came through. Apparently the bedrock in northern Illinois looks sort of like a partially tilted slab. The forward end of this slab was compressed and forced downward during the ice age, and the quake was caused by this slab slowly springing back up. There is actually a fault line that runs across the northen part of Illinois that shows how the bedrock snapped eons ago, and now the two occasionally rub up against each other as the southern part springs back into place. Tom Administrator The company officer was looking really worried and was kind of hectic but I, a staff officer stayed calm. I went on the hall and told everyone it was just a little quake and that we get them from time to time, even though it was the first I had ever felt, but I didn't tell them that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 >Tom: "The thing about the quake that shook me"I'm All Shook Up   ------Elvis PresleyA well I bless my soulWhat's wrong with me?I'm itching like a man on a fuzzy treeMy friends say I'm actin' WIRED* as a bugI'm in loveI'm all shook upMm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah!My hands are shaky and my knees are weakI can't seem to stand on my own two feetWho do you thank when you have such luck?I'm in loveI'm all shook upMm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah!Please don't ask me what's on my mindI'm a little mixed up, but I'm feelin' fineWhen I'm near that girl that I love bestMy heart beats so it scares me to death!She touched my hand what a chill I gotHer LIPS* are like a volcano that's hotI'm proud to say she's my buttercupI'm in loveI'm all shook upMm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah!My tongue gets tied when I try to speakMy insides shake like a leaf on a treeThere's only one cure for this BODY* of mineThat's to have the girl that I love so fine!  Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 "When they had the earthquake -in San Francisco -- back in 19'6They said that old mother nature was up to her old tricks.That's the story that went around, but here's the real lowdown:Put the blame on Mame, boysPut the blame on MameOne night she started to - shim and shake -that brought on the 'Frisco quakeSo you canPut the blame on Mame, boysPut the blame on Mame." (Rita Hayworth in Gilda) Inger Re: Re: New Orleans Zoo >Tom: "The thing about the quake that shook me" I'm All Shook Up ------Elvis Presley A well I bless my soul What's wrong with me? I'm itching like a man on a fuzzy tree My friends say I'm actin' WIRED* as a bug I'm in love I'm all shook up Mm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah! My hands are shaky and my knees are weak I can't seem to stand on my own two feet Who do you thank when you have such luck? I'm in love I'm all shook up Mm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah! Please don't ask me what's on my mind I'm a little mixed up, but I'm feelin' fine When I'm near that girl that I love best My heart beats so it scares me to death! She touched my hand what a chill I got Her LIPS* are like a volcano that's hot I'm proud to say she's my buttercup I'm in love I'm all shook up Mm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah! My tongue gets tied when I try to speak My insides shake like a leaf on a tree There's only one cure for this BODY* of mine That's to have the girl that I love so fine! Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 >> >Tom: "The thing about the quake that shook me"> > > I'm All Shook Up> ------Elvis Presley> > A well I bless my soul> What's wrong with me?> I'm itching like a man on a fuzzy tree> My friends say I'm actin' WIRED* as a bug> I'm in love> I'm all shook up> Mm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah!> My hands are shaky and my knees are weak> I can't seem to stand on my own two feet> Who do you thank when you have such luck?> I'm in love> I'm all shook up> Mm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah!> > Please don't ask me what's on my mind> I'm a little mixed up, but I'm feelin' fine> When I'm near that girl that I love best> My heart beats so it scares me to death!> > She touched my hand what a chill I got> Her LIPS* are like a volcano that's hot> I'm proud to say she's my buttercup> I'm in love> I'm all shook up> Mm mm oh, oh, yeah, yeah!> > My tongue gets tied when I try to speak> My insides shake like a leaf on a tree> There's only one cure for this BODY* of mine> That's to have the girl that I love so fine!> > Rainbow> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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