Re: Mood Meter - anyone else with special lists?

November 16, 2005

Lida,

Sometimes when I quit smoking I chart how many cigarettes I don't

have and how much money I save by not having them.

I chart the activity in these forums and track it month to month and

year to year.

I used to chart all the daily share prices of eight mutual funds

against four or five key indexes. I used that data to select one

fund which is now outperforming the other 7 that I was tracking.

I keep charts of my income and interest earned.

Tom

Anyone else with this kind of lists or other things you keep records

of that probably is rather aspie?

Lida

November 16, 2005

That's so funny--mood meter. I keep all kinds of lists about myself

to track my own moods and physical symptoms and other things in my

environment, but I've never done that on other people. Women that I

know moods are somewhat predictible to me but maybe I should track my

husband's to see if there really is some type of cycle.

I would think that checking how you're acting would be very

Aspergers, although not every Aspergers does it. I am constantly

doing it, but I only just recently found out I was Aspergers and it's

second nature now, I can't change it too much. If I had known I was

Aspergers a long time ago, maybe I would act different, but I'm very

sensitive about trying to fit into my environment and with others, so

probably not.

>

> Hi,

>

> Every now and then I wonder if I really are 'that asperger', which

is not because I don't want to be asperger but because I try to check

if I am acting very weird or not in my social environment. My social

environment is rather reduced (I see 2 adults and 2 teenagers on a

regular basis)so it is not so difficult not te get weird. And because

I have such a reduced environment, I am able to live quite balanced.

>

> Today I was again thinking: " Hm, well... I don't see some really

notorious aspie-traits in myself these days " .. and then I suddenly

started to laugh, because I was thinking that while I was updating my

Mood Meter. This Mood Meter is a document in Excel that I manage in

which I make a map of these 4 persons around me and how their moods

have been - trying to compare it what has happened that day.

>

> This Mood Meter helps me to try to figure out some logic about how

my beloved ones act 'emotionalwise'. I realized that it must be very

aspie to have such a list.

>

> Anyone else with this kind of lists or other things you keep

records of that probably is rather aspie?

>

> Lida

>

November 16, 2005

" I chart the activity in these forums and track it month to month and

year to year. "

Now I find this interesting - are certain months busier than others?

Has there been a gradual incline?

I suppose you could expand it to see if certain times of week or day

are busier and is there more conflict around a full moon as some

would suggest? When are the peaks in subscription - or people

leaving? Is this related to anything? Are there patterns? :-)

>

> Anyone else with this kind of lists or other things you keep

records

> of that probably is rather aspie?

>

> Lida

>

November 17, 2005

I used to love making lists.

For many years I used to do a graph of my biorhythms, in which I also recorded moon phase, menstrual phase, sleep- & waking up time, physical-, emotional- & mental state, as well as major events. Made me notice some interesting correlations. :-)

Also kept records of my dreams, but that got too arduous after a while.

Now I don't have time or interest. (I keep the records in my head instead.)

Inger

Mood Meter - anyone else with special lists?

Hi,

Every now and then I wonder if I really are 'that asperger', which is not because I don't want to be asperger but because I try to check if I am acting very weird or not in my social environment. My social environment is rather reduced (I see 2 adults and 2 teenagers on a regular basis)so it is not so difficult not te get weird. And because I have such a reduced environment, I am able to live quite balanced.

Today I was again thinking: "Hm, well... I don't see some really notorious aspie-traits in myself these days".. and then I suddenly started to laugh, because I was thinking that while I was updating my Mood Meter. This Mood Meter is a document in Excel that I manage in which I make a map of these 4 persons around me and how their moods have been - trying to compare it what has happened that day.

This Mood Meter helps me to try to figure out some logic about how my beloved ones act 'emotionalwise'. I realized that it must be very aspie to have such a list.

Anyone else with this kind of lists or other things you keep records of that probably is rather aspie?

Lida

November 17, 2005

Mmmmmmm interesting :-) I had noticed a few of the trends myself,

just by observation - like people tending to post within office hours

and weekends been quieter etc.

Now I am thinking what other statistics might there be, like how many

males, females? age groups? single/married? working? Living with

someone/living alone? What country is most represented? (I am tempted

to say there are a lot of Americans on these boards, but also people

from Sweden.

Just curious as ever :-) I can think of loads more questions :-)

Survery time? (just joking) :-)

>

> " Now I find this interesting - are certain months busier than

> others? "

>

> My answer(s) to your questions take the combined totals from all

FAM

> forums into account.

>

> March of 2005 was the busiest month to date with the months of May,

> June and July 2005 running a close second.

>

> " Has there been a gradual incline? "

>

> Since July there has been a gradual decline.

>

> I attribute this to my not bringing in new members via invitation

> and my banning some troublemakers, which caused consternation and

an

> exodous among certain members.

>

> " I suppose you could expand it to see if certain times of week or

day

> are busier and is there more conflict around a full moon as some

> would suggest? "

>

> I could, but just monitoring the activity tells me that most of our

> members post while at work or during (American) business hours.

> Weekends are typically slow, holidays even slower depending on

which

> religion's or which country's oberservances are taking place.

>

> " When are the peaks in subscription - or people leaving?

>

> " Is this related to anything? "

>

> People tend to migrate here when other boards experience trouble or

> interuptions in service. They also arrive after newspapers or TV

> shows publish/televise stories about AS.

>

> People tend to leave when

>

> 1) there is fighting going on on the board and when

>

> 2) liberals speak too freely of " rights " regarding controversial

> issues. (Conservatives tend not to like to be around people who

> advocate things they deem morally or ethically objectionable. It is

> at times like these when I get the most complaint mail for people.)

>

> People also tend to leave during

>

> 3) religious discussions.

>

> " Are there patterns? :-) "

>

> Yes. People who come here looking just to socialize tend to leave

> quickly and wind up posting to other more populated boards, like

AI,

> WP and others. People who are looking to join a movement go off to

> AFF.

>

> People who experience trouble on the new boards they go to usually

> return after a while but the radical posters who go to AFF do not.

>

> People looking for deep conversations stay here, but may stop

> participating after a while due to old topics being re-covered.

>

> Periodically, I canvass older members who haven't posted recently

to

> remind them that they are still welcome. Usually at that point,

some

> of them remember they have memberships here that they no longer

want

> and leave, while others rejoin the conversations.

>

> Tom

>

November 17, 2005

I have done something similar previously - I also took into account

planetary aspects etc.

I remember as soon as I could write I was making lists - I made

myself 'to do' lists even before I knew what 'to do' lists were - I

liked to catalouge things too. I think a lot of this was to do with I

liked order and structure, but my mother brought me up with the

theory of 'Dr Spocks' self regulating child. I couldn't really

function without a list of options - I made my own routines and

order - but the more chaotic my life has become (and more complex)

the less organised I have become - my time management and

organisation skills have gone. Basically I have too much to do and

not enough time and I am cr*p at multi tasking too :-(

>

> I used to love making lists.

>

> For many years I used to do a graph of my biorhythms, in which I

also recorded moon phase, menstrual phase, sleep- & waking up time,

physical-, emotional- & mental state, as well as major events. Made

me notice some interesting correlations. :-)

>

> Also kept records of my dreams, but that got too arduous after a

while.

>

> Now I don't have time or interest. (I keep the records in my head

instead.)

>

> Inger

>

November 17, 2005

I miss that about childhood--when there were so many interests and so

much time!

> >

> > I used to love making lists.

> >

> > For many years I used to do a graph of my biorhythms, in which I

> also recorded moon phase, menstrual phase, sleep- & waking up time,

> physical-, emotional- & mental state, as well as major events. Made

> me notice some interesting correlations. :-)

> >

> > Also kept records of my dreams, but that got too arduous after a

> while.

> >

> > Now I don't have time or interest. (I keep the records in my head

> instead.)

> >

> > Inger

> >

>

November 17, 2005

In a message dated 11/17/2005 2:03:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

When I am being myself that doesn't always go down well - people either love me or hate me - I must be like marmite (advert reference).

That's just the way it is. 10% of people will like you, 10% will hate you and 80% won't care one way or the other.

November 17, 2005

In a message dated 11/17/2005 2:03:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

When I am being myself that doesn't always go down well - people either love me or hate me - I must be like marmite (advert reference).

That's just the way it is. 10% of people will like you, 10% will hate you and 80% won't care one way or the other.

November 17, 2005

America is the most represented followed by the UK, Sweden, Australia,

and Canada. But the Americans, Brits, and Swedes tend to participate

the most.

More females than males join which would suggest that their are more

women than men being diagnosed, but I think men are just less likely

to seek out these kinds of boards.

Can't answer the rest of the questions because I really don't know.

I'd conduct a survey, but I'd rather have folks maintain their privacy.

Tom

Mmmmmmm interesting :-) I had noticed a few of the trends myself,

just by observation - like people tending to post within office hours

and weekends been quieter etc.

Now I am thinking what other statistics might there be, like how many

males, females? age groups? single/married? working? Living with

someone/living alone? What country is most represented? (I am tempted

to say there are a lot of Americans on these boards, but also people

from Sweden.

Just curious as ever :-) I can think of loads more questions :-)

Survery time? (just joking) :-)

November 17, 2005

America is the most represented followed by the UK, Sweden, Australia,

and Canada. But the Americans, Brits, and Swedes tend to participate

the most.

More females than males join which would suggest that their are more

women than men being diagnosed, but I think men are just less likely

to seek out these kinds of boards.

Can't answer the rest of the questions because I really don't know.

I'd conduct a survey, but I'd rather have folks maintain their privacy.

Tom

Mmmmmmm interesting :-) I had noticed a few of the trends myself,

just by observation - like people tending to post within office hours

and weekends been quieter etc.

Now I am thinking what other statistics might there be, like how many

males, females? age groups? single/married? working? Living with

someone/living alone? What country is most represented? (I am tempted

to say there are a lot of Americans on these boards, but also people

from Sweden.

Just curious as ever :-) I can think of loads more questions :-)

Survery time? (just joking) :-)

November 17, 2005

>

> Mmmmmmm interesting :-) I had noticed a few of the trends myself,

> just by observation - like people tending to post within office

hours

> and weekends been quieter etc.

>

> Now I am thinking what other statistics might there be, like how

many

> males, females? age groups? single/married? working? Living with

> someone/living alone? What country is most represented? (I am

tempted

> to say there are a lot of Americans on these boards, but also people

> from Sweden.

>

> Just curious as ever :-) I can think of loads more questions :-)

> Survery time? (just joking) :-)

>

November 17, 2005

,

Your dreams have disappeared because answers to many of your

questions have been found here, thus your mind no longer needs to

work them out for itself. However, as you continue on the journey of

discovery, it will open your mind to new and interesting thoughts

and possibilities and you will have a whole new run of interesting

dreams.

That's what happened to me anyway. In fact, I now have reccurring

dreams that are like " hideaways " for me. I go to them, almost at

will, and never get tired of these dreams, even when I have them

four of five nights in a row.

One is that I and many of the others here try to hide ourselves in a

cave.

Another is that we are going through this big long conservatory and

trying to get ourselves lost so others cannot find us.

In still another, there is a secret place where I go to where I can

see out and no one else can see in. There I play on computer

terminals and keep opening up windows into new places that are more

and more interesting. These forums are designed after that dream.

Getting to the destinations in these dreams is half the fun, but

once there, the destinations themselves are really cool.

In the first dream its an underground city, sometimes made up or

different colored metals, and other times like Roman cities.

In the second dream its a huge dome in the middle of a green -

gardened and landscaped continent. We all hold hands as the rest of

the world wipes itself out, but we live and have a new beginning.

In the third, if I open the right computer windows, I eventually

open a real door, which takes me to a stairwell that goes down and

down where no one can find me. Sometimes I come across mine tunnels

and drive coal cars deep into them so no one can get to me. These

tunnels go on forever, and many of the people here are already down

there.

I think these dreams are all about embracing my AS and my

reclusiveness and wallowing in it.

I also have a woman who has come to me in my dreams since I was a

child, and she has taken new forms and the dreams have gotten quite

elaboarte since I have been an adult.

You will have neat and interesting dreams again. Never fear.

Tom

Administrator

One strange thing about my dreams--I have had the most amazing

interesting dreams so that I couldn't wait to go to sleep. Ever since

I found out that I'm Aspergers my amazing dreams are gone! It seems

that now that I'm self-realized my subconcious is no longer needed.

Though finding out I'm Aspergers has been amazing for my waking life,

I'm really bummed about losing my sleeping life.

November 17, 2005

I was joking about the survey :-) but thanks for info' - I just like

knowing stuff :-)

I wonder if it is possible to have too much info' - sometimes I worry

about some things - diseases etc and I avoid finding out too much

otherwise I would probably worry myself to death - that is not to say

I ignore sensible sound advice - but programmes on microscopic bugs

that live on you and stuff - not exactly bedtime viewing with my mind.

>

> Mmmmmmm interesting :-) I had noticed a few of the trends myself,

> just by observation - like people tending to post within office

hours

> and weekends been quieter etc.

>

> Now I am thinking what other statistics might there be, like how

many

> males, females? age groups? single/married? working? Living with

> someone/living alone? What country is most represented? (I am

tempted

> to say there are a lot of Americans on these boards, but also people

> from Sweden.

>

> Just curious as ever :-) I can think of loads more questions :-)

> Survery time? (just joking) :-)

>

November 17, 2005

I was joking about the survey :-) but thanks for info' - I just like

knowing stuff :-)

I wonder if it is possible to have too much info' - sometimes I worry

about some things - diseases etc and I avoid finding out too much

otherwise I would probably worry myself to death - that is not to say

I ignore sensible sound advice - but programmes on microscopic bugs

that live on you and stuff - not exactly bedtime viewing with my mind.

>

> Mmmmmmm interesting :-) I had noticed a few of the trends myself,

> just by observation - like people tending to post within office

hours

> and weekends been quieter etc.

>

> Now I am thinking what other statistics might there be, like how

many

> males, females? age groups? single/married? working? Living with

> someone/living alone? What country is most represented? (I am

tempted

> to say there are a lot of Americans on these boards, but also people

> from Sweden.

>

> Just curious as ever :-) I can think of loads more questions :-)

> Survery time? (just joking) :-)

>

November 17, 2005

I don't particularly like talking - verbally I mean - but I love

writing. I often prefer messenger over a verbal conversation.

I will and do have verbal conversations when I am in the mood - but

sometimes it is just so painful - I seem to sometimes have difficulty

verbalising things - getting the right words and my tone of voice is

not correct either and can lead to misunderstandings - I think I also

have a nervous smile and laugh - that I suppose can come across as

inappropriate - I think this was partly learned - as when I don't

smile people assume I am miserable and want to know what is wrong - I

can actually sound quite happy when I am extremely down. It seems my

outer self is not a true reflection of the inner me and yet I cannot

seem to do anything to change it - as I am not always aware of how I

am coming across.

>

> " More females than males join which would suggest that their are

more

> > women than men being diagnosed, but I think men are just less

> likely

> > to seek out these kinds of boards. "

>

> Interesting that you say you think more women are being diagnosed

> when the statistics show that more men are. I think those

statistics

> don't reflect that there are probably just as many women who are

AS,

> they're just not diagnosed, possibly because women are not noticed

as

> being AS as much as men are. As for the boards, I think women in

> general like to talk more, maybe it's true with Aspie women as

well,

> what do you think? I used to be quiet but now that I know I'm AS I

> can't seem to shut up! Hopefully I will level off soon or I'm going

> to start irritating myself (I've never enjoyed super-talkative

> people.)

>

November 17, 2005

Wow, those are amazing dreams, Tom. And you can get to them almost by

will? Thanks--that's encouraging to know that this is just a stage on

my journey and I will dream again.

>

> One strange thing about my dreams--I have had the most amazing

> interesting dreams so that I couldn't wait to go to sleep. Ever

since

> I found out that I'm Aspergers my amazing dreams are gone! It seems

> that now that I'm self-realized my subconcious is no longer needed.

> Though finding out I'm Aspergers has been amazing for my waking

life,

> I'm really bummed about losing my sleeping life.

>

November 17, 2005

Same with me, . I write better than I talk and have difficulty

verbalising sometimes and don't always get the tone right, have a

nervous smile and laugh. I've gotten in the habit of smiling all time

so that people won't be put off by me, but then that backfires. I

know another Aspie who smiles all the time and it does look a little

strange so I've stopped doing that so much but will alternate between

being too smiley and chipper and being too reserved and stoney faced.

I realize that I'll never get it quite right so I just try to relax

and when I do it all works a little better.

> >

> > " More females than males join which would suggest that their are

> more

> > > women than men being diagnosed, but I think men are just less

> > likely

> > > to seek out these kinds of boards. "

> >

> > Interesting that you say you think more women are being diagnosed

> > when the statistics show that more men are. I think those

> statistics

> > don't reflect that there are probably just as many women who are

> AS,

> > they're just not diagnosed, possibly because women are not

noticed

> as

> > being AS as much as men are. As for the boards, I think women in

> > general like to talk more, maybe it's true with Aspie women as

> well,

> > what do you think? I used to be quiet but now that I know I'm AS

I

> > can't seem to shut up! Hopefully I will level off soon or I'm

going

> > to start irritating myself (I've never enjoyed super-talkative

> > people.)

> >

>

November 17, 2005

I think Aspies would make good butlers. In my receptionist role, I

can act like a butler. Quiet, reserved, and without expressing an

opinion about anything.

Works for me since I am quiet by nature.

It's only when I am in the role of administrative assistant that I

have to smile a lot to indicate to others that I am not depressed or

angry, which they seem to feel I am if I am not wearing a smile as

an admin. assistant.

Smiles look fake to me. Every time I see someone showing their teeth

in a magazine ad, I think to myself that teeth are part of the

digestive system. Would I want to look at any OTHER parts of

someone's digestive system? No. So why would I want to look at their

teeth?

I also hate it when people whiten their teeth. Teeth are not

supposed to be whitened. They are supposed to be whatever color they

are naturally, which is more of an off white or yellow. Whenever I

see someone with whitened teeth I am repulsed. I will not date a

woman who has her teeth whitened. Cleaned? Fine. Whitened? No.

Flashy teeth and smiles are all distractions to me and are

interpreted by me to be deceiving for that reason. What people who

smile alot are doing in my opinion is saying " Look at my smile so

that it distracts you from hearing the lies in my conversation. "

I also used to try to smile a lot to try to fit in better. But that

was at my old job. Here, people seem to like it that I appear

neutral all the time. The executive search wing of the firm I work

for has interviewees coming in every day. My quietness calms them,

and my lack of commentary on their attire keeps them confident. A

slight upturn in the corners of my mouth seems to cause them to

think I am warmly welcoming them.

What they don't realize is that I could care less whether or not

they are nervous and I don't notice their attire, and even if they

were nervous or were dressed sloppy I wouldn't care, and the slight

upturn is the most I smile for anyone, and it is my " stock " smile.

Fake to the hilt.

The only time I will smile wider is if I want to get rid of someone

sooner. People seem to think that if you smile at them, then you

either like them, or like what they are saying, and this appehars to

be all they really want. They don't care if YOU are happy. All they

care about is that you are happy about THEM.