Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Regarding Krigsman's comments. There is one other theroy. Some doctors talk openly about benefits from antifungals even when urine and stool tests are negative. They talk about yeast as " yeast like symptoms. " Reading between the lines, I believe there is a growing number of doctors who believe there is something else going on here. Maybe we are taking care of yeast in the blood, maybe it's in a different place in the GI tract, or maybe the antifungals are doing something else all together, like managing testosterone... and the testosterone problems are what is making some our kids batty. Personally, I often see fungus on the tongues of chronically ill kids in my school and I see it often go away with diet and/or antifungals so I'm convinced that at goodly amount of our kids have yeast somewhere, which sometimes includes the digestive tract. But, what about the ones that respond to antifungals when the tongue is clear and scopes and OATs/stool tests show clear. Could this be more systemic fungus or a testerone or other related issue that is mediated by antifungals. Maybe. Stay tuned. - Stan > > > > > > For people using OLE long term, it wouldn't seem wise to avoid > > > probiotics. OLE seems only to impact SOME of the kinds of > things > > > found in formulas like Primal Defence. > > > > > > I was using OLE on my son as part of his antiviral protocol, and > > if > > > we missed the second dose of probiotics for the day (one > > Culturelle, > > > one SuperProBio) it was much more likely that we had yeast that > > > night. The same is true now that we're not using OLE. That is, > > the > > > OLE wasn't having an impact on those probiotics. What is having > > an > > > impact, IMO, is the viral die-off, which somehow feeds the > yeast. > > > And if we are not on top of that yeast with Candex and > probiotics, > > > we have sleepless nights. > > > > > > >Virastop and antifungals do kill what probiotics > > > >contribute. > > > > > > Also, for people using antifungals like Candex, you needn't > worry > > > that the Candex will kill your probiotics. Candex is an enzymes > > > that digests yeast, not bacteria. There are even people like > > Dana, > > > of Dana's View, who dose things like GSE with probiotics and > have > > > had no problems. This isn't what I do, but it is important to > > > understand that antifungals attack fungal and not bacteria, > UNLESS > > > they are antibacterial as well, and even then there seems to be > > some > > > disagreement. > > > > > > It is my understanding that Virastop does not harm the bacteria > of > > > probiotics. Virastop digests the protein sheath of viruses--it > > is > > > an enzyme. Enzymes, like VS and Candex, are very particular, > and > > VS > > > is formulated for proteins. If probiotics couldn't withstand > > > enzymes, taking probiotics would be of no use to us because we > > have > > > enzymes in us working all the time. > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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