ot genetic testing

June 8, 2006

hello, we have a mutation. it is linked to autism. it is x-linked autism. we all seem to have it, how it is expressed is how it determines much of our symptoms down to how disabling it can be. mine daughter has rett syndrome, i have autism, all three of mine sisters child peoples have autism. as does mine brother and another brother adhd with ld and his autistic son. we have chosen not to vaccinate mine sisters youngest, and mine brothers youngest. and mine brother has another on the way that we will not vaccinate. the youngest too non vaccinated are still autistic but high functioning. both still have the mutation and the same issues on the hypoglamus and frontol lobes. however these don't have the same weakness or sickness the rest of us do. they are healthy pink faced rosy happy autistics, but autistic nonetheless.

crabtailkennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber.

June 8, 2006

we have a mecp2 mutation in the long arm of the x-chromosome. when they found the gene responsible for mine daughters retts, the mutation was found in other members of the family primarily the autistics, also those diagnosed with ADHD and LD. expression was different maybe like with an extra X chromosome mine mutated x was mostly inactivated, while mine healthy X activated, something like that, best i can relay it, would switch on so that's why they think i missed out on getting rett's but had only autism to deal with. being that our boys have only one x-chromosome when effected they usually had a more severe case, they were more in the autistic MR range, while our girls grazed by with adhd or ld, we also had many miscarriages, mostly males, almost full term child 5 months, 6 months, and even full term sudden stillborn, and also fatal births boys dieing soon after birth, my sister went through four miscarriages, three of which were male, one actually drew breath and lived five minutes before dieing, her girls are both hfa and aspergers, her only surviving son classic kanners. my brother also after a miscarriage has an autistic boy, severe, the mecp2 mutation we have has been seen in LD, ADHD, autism , retts, and schizophrenia and language disorders. my brother who is 39 is also autistic, but his autism does not look much like what is being called 'autism' now. for one thing mine brother is rarely sick, strong and very healthy, and is basically classically dealing with a developmental disorder not a disease state, (because he is just too healthy). we have gone thorugh some interventions with our kids, and much has helped with other issues but mostly the autism remained. we also do have autistics, that do not fall on the category of fragile x, nor retts, and can only be categorized as just plain autism, or ADHD.

here is some info about what is being termed x-linked autism:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060504075317.htm

http://www.brainbank.org/HtmNew/researchmain.html

In a message dated 6/8/2006 1:04:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, eislerfamily@... writes:

Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber.

June 8, 2006

we have a mecp2 mutation in the long arm of the x-chromosome. when they found the gene responsible for mine daughters retts, the mutation was found in other members of the family primarily the autistics, also those diagnosed with ADHD and LD. expression was different maybe like with an extra X chromosome mine mutated x was mostly inactivated, while mine healthy X activated, something like that, best i can relay it, would switch on so that's why they think i missed out on getting rett's but had only autism to deal with. being that our boys have only one x-chromosome when effected they usually had a more severe case, they were more in the autistic MR range, while our girls grazed by with adhd or ld, we also had many miscarriages, mostly males, almost full term child 5 months, 6 months, and even full term sudden stillborn, and also fatal births boys dieing soon after birth, my sister went through four miscarriages, three of which were male, one actually drew breath and lived five minutes before dieing, her girls are both hfa and aspergers, her only surviving son classic kanners. my brother also after a miscarriage has an autistic boy, severe, the mecp2 mutation we have has been seen in LD, ADHD, autism , retts, and schizophrenia and language disorders. my brother who is 39 is also autistic, but his autism does not look much like what is being called 'autism' now. for one thing mine brother is rarely sick, strong and very healthy, and is basically classically dealing with a developmental disorder not a disease state, (because he is just too healthy). we have gone thorugh some interventions with our kids, and much has helped with other issues but mostly the autism remained. we also do have autistics, that do not fall on the category of fragile x, nor retts, and can only be categorized as just plain autism, or ADHD.

here is some info about what is being termed x-linked autism:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060504075317.htm

http://www.brainbank.org/HtmNew/researchmain.html

In a message dated 6/8/2006 1:04:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, eislerfamily@... writes:

Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber.

June 8, 2006

one most consider distinctions within what is called autism, in some sense it is genetic, in others environmental and in many a case a mixture of both. however, autism as a developmental disorder looks very different from autism as in a disease state. but if the developmental genetics affect the same part of the brain as a disease effect both can look much similar, but is distinctly different differently.

there is a genetic developmental disorder called autism, as well as autism stemming from genetic predisposition and environmental factors generating what you now call 'autism'. however we have had long history of autistics in our family and many of us do not look like what is called autism today, also our new generation of autistics are much sicker than the madmen or those strange ones termed the 'possessed' from our own family history. our children are dealing with more issues than our autistics from years back.

i would like our family to return to our original autism, without all these new health issues that were not so prevalent back years ago.

crabtail

In a message dated 6/8/2006 2:16:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, abrynn@... writes:

I would never accept that explanation, but that might just be me. First, I doubt if any test can show that autism is purely genetic. In fact, it probably is both - genetic predisposition coupled with environmental insult. Have you considered that the interventions your son's doctor is recommending may not be appropriate at this point in your son's development? Have you had any tests run (other than genetic)? Viral? Hair Test (Doctor's Data)? Anne

June 8, 2006

one most consider distinctions within what is called autism, in some sense it is genetic, in others environmental and in many a case a mixture of both. however, autism as a developmental disorder looks very different from autism as in a disease state. but if the developmental genetics affect the same part of the brain as a disease effect both can look much similar, but is distinctly different differently.

there is a genetic developmental disorder called autism, as well as autism stemming from genetic predisposition and environmental factors generating what you now call 'autism'. however we have had long history of autistics in our family and many of us do not look like what is called autism today, also our new generation of autistics are much sicker than the madmen or those strange ones termed the 'possessed' from our own family history. our children are dealing with more issues than our autistics from years back.

i would like our family to return to our original autism, without all these new health issues that were not so prevalent back years ago.

crabtail

In a message dated 6/8/2006 2:16:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, abrynn@... writes:

I would never accept that explanation, but that might just be me. First, I doubt if any test can show that autism is purely genetic. In fact, it probably is both - genetic predisposition coupled with environmental insult. Have you considered that the interventions your son's doctor is recommending may not be appropriate at this point in your son's development? Have you had any tests run (other than genetic)? Viral? Hair Test (Doctor's Data)? Anne

June 8, 2006

I am no expert, but I am not aware that this can be done since they don't know what genes specifically cause autism or leave a child predispotitioned to autism. So how can they test this. The only genetic testing i am aware of is fragile X and that should have been done when the child was first diagnosed to rule it out. (predispositioned I mean). Our family is in a genetic study with the medical school at the Univ. of SC and every so often they come to do blood testing, but so far they have not published anything on the study. Maurinekennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

I am no expert, but I am not aware that this can be done since they don't know what genes specifically cause autism or leave a child predispotitioned to autism. So how can they test this. The only genetic testing i am aware of is fragile X and that should have been done when the child was first diagnosed to rule it out. (predispositioned I mean). Our family is in a genetic study with the medical school at the Univ. of SC and every so often they come to do blood testing, but so far they have not published anything on the study. Maurinekennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

some people in this group talk about Amy Yusko(spelling) who does some genetic testing to be able to help your child further-maybe they can help you better than I. (but I still don't think she can say this is genes or this is environment) Maurinekennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr

old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

some people in this group talk about Amy Yusko(spelling) who does some genetic testing to be able to help your child further-maybe they can help you better than I. (but I still don't think she can say this is genes or this is environment) Maurinekennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr

old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

Hi Amber, that is really a wrong question, because everybody's autism,

or any other disorder or disease is 'genetic' in origin - a genetic

predisposition coupled with environmental insults... so don't be too

worried, as even in monogenetic disorders - i.e. those rare cases where

they are able to isolate that one 'guilty' gene, like FragileX or Retts

or Down's syndromes, where one mutation in one gene is able to cause

many symptoms - don't think this is the case in your son as you would

have notices many other symptoms by now, and docs are usually good at

diagnosing those disorders... having said that, science and medicine are

making leaps there as well, even in some of those firmly genetic cases

there will be something very soon that will help in treatments...

your DAN is probably thinking of Amy Yasko's testing - identifying

genes that make one vulnerable to envioromental assaults, where body is

not able to detox easily... her protocol is based on helping the body

bypass those genetic mutations and detox on its own, helping

methylation... her website is www.autismanswer.com she has a very

good reputation for helping 'tough nut' kids, older kids and

non-responders....

Best of luck,

Natasa

> Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that

will

> determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.

> Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it

more

> and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any

> of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription

> anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of

> diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex.

> If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do

> will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact

> that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.

> I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on

> this.

> Thanks.

> Amber.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

June 8, 2006

I would never accept that explanation, but that might just be me.

First, I doubt if any test can show that autism is purely genetic.

In fact, it probably is both - genetic predisposition coupled with

environmental insult.

Have you considered that the interventions your son's doctor is

recommending may not be appropriate at this point in your son's

development? Have you had any tests run (other than genetic)?

Viral? Hair Test (Doctor's Data)?

Anne

>

> Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will

> determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally

caused.

> Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it

more

> and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to

any

> of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes,

prescription

> anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of

> diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex.

> If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we

do

> will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the

fact

> that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.

> I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on

> this.

> Thanks.

> Amber.

>

June 8, 2006

I would never accept that explanation, but that might just be me.

First, I doubt if any test can show that autism is purely genetic.

In fact, it probably is both - genetic predisposition coupled with

environmental insult.

Have you considered that the interventions your son's doctor is

recommending may not be appropriate at this point in your son's

development? Have you had any tests run (other than genetic)?

Viral? Hair Test (Doctor's Data)?

Anne

>

> Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will

> determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally

caused.

> Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it

more

> and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to

any

> of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes,

prescription

> anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of

> diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex.

> If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we

do

> will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the

fact

> that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.

> I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on

> this.

> Thanks.

> Amber.

>

June 8, 2006

I know it is very rare to find a specific gene for autism. I agree that you should test all possibilities so you can rule them out. You've written an extensive list of things you've tried on your 5 year old. Have you tested his testosterone level? It has been my experience that the things you mentioned have little effect when their is high testosterone. I also have a 5 year old for which nothing worked until I lowered his testosterone. If nothing else, I would test for his testosterone. kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

Hi Abid, did you lower his testoserone using Luperon, I am wanting to try this, however we live on the other side of the world, do you know what the protocol for this is? Have gotten no reply from the Gierers, and am wanting to take something to my Pediatrician who will have to prescribe the drug etc

regards

Re: OT Genetic Testing

I know it is very rare to find a specific gene for autism. I agree that you should test all possibilities so you can rule them out.

You've written an extensive list of things you've tried on your 5 year old. Have you tested his testosterone level?

It has been my experience that the things you mentioned have little effect when their is high testosterone. I also have a 5 year old for which nothing worked until I lowered his testosterone.

If nothing else, I would test for his testosterone. kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber.

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June 8, 2006

These are incredible! I have received help from so many here and i am greatful to help others. I'm not sure what part of the world you are in but you need to tell a competent pediatrician that you suspect your child has "Precocious puberty". No need to get into the fact that he is autistic or that you believe that lowering his testosterone will treat his autism -- I doubt if a doctor will believe you. Again, tell your doctor that you suspect your child has "Precocious puberty". He may be a little more hairy than normal or play with himself like my son. Insist that he test him for "Precocious puberty". Here's the challange: NT kids with Precocious puberty have high testosterone and high FSH and LH. Autistic kids with Precocious puberty have high testosterone and LOW FSH and LH. The only way this is

possible (according to mainstream medicine) is if a child has a brain tumor. So the doctor may panic and have your kid tested for a brain tumor too. There will be no brain tumor and the doctor will be very confused. I went through this. If you feel comfortable with the treatment (Lupron) then start treatment. Yes, my son is now using Lupron and DMSA chelation with the AC protocal and is doing awesome! If you like, I can talk to Dr. Geier for you. I am meeting him on June 15th. I hope I helped. Good luck. <maryhe@...> wrote: Hi Abid, did you lower his testoserone using Luperon, I am wanting to try this, however we live on the other side of the world, do you know what the protocol for this is? Have gotten no reply from the Gierers, and am wanting to take something to my Pediatrician who will have to prescribe the drug etc regards Re: OT Genetic Testing I know it is very rare to find a specific gene for autism. I agree that you should test all possibilities so you can rule them out. You've written an extensive list of things you've tried on your 5 year old. Have you tested his testosterone level? It has been my experience that the things you mentioned have little effect when their is high testosterone. I also have a 5 year old for which nothing worked until I lowered his testosterone. If nothing else, I would test for his testosterone. kennetheriklucy

<eislerfamily@...> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

yes please talk to him for me - basically what we need is a letter with the protocol on it, went to see my GP this morning, he is fine to refer us to the Pediatrician for this, he is great in that he encourages us to try things and isn't phased by controversy etc - however the pediatrician will be different - my email is maryhe@... have gone and had his stats for hormones done again this morning, they will be back within a few days - can I then email them to you off line - and if Dr Geier would consult us via email that would be great -

thanks for taking the time - so good to hear your son is doing well - what is the protocol for your child so far

regards

Re: OT Genetic Testing

I know it is very rare to find a specific gene for autism. I agree that you should test all possibilities so you can rule them out.

You've written an extensive list of things you've tried on your 5 year old. Have you tested his testosterone level?

It has been my experience that the things you mentioned have little effect when their is high testosterone. I also have a 5 year old for which nothing worked until I lowered his testosterone.

If nothing else, I would test for his testosterone. kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber.

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June 9, 2006

Amber,

Dr. Amy Yasko does genetic testing to find

out how to treat your child. Genetic mutations may inhibit some of the

therapies but she has developed some ways to fix or get around some of the

problems. So I wouldn’t give up even if there are genetics involved. I

don’t follow her yet but I know she is there in case the avenues in which

we go don’t heed the results we’re looking for. We are seeing some

results as of now. Others on this sight follow her protocol and can give you

more advice. -

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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006

12:59 PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: OT Genetic

Testing

Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test

that will

determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.

Our DAN Dr.

has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more

and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any

of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription

anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of

diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex.

If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do

will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact

that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.

I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on

this.

Thanks.

Amber.

June 9, 2006

Hi everyone,

I am pretty new to all of this- we just started a few months ago. When I heard genetic testing, I was really in the dark about it. My son has been a very slow to no responder to everything that I've tried so far, and I am worried and frustrated, and I am sure everyone can relate.

I just want to say thank-you so much to everyone. I was feeling really confused and bad yesterday, and now, I have so much info to look at.

I definitely feel much better today- thanks again to everyone for all the wonderful help.

I am sure I'll be back with more question- real soon.

Amber.

On 6/9/06, Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote:

Amber,

Dr. Amy Yasko does genetic testing to find out how to treat your child. Genetic mutations may inhibit some of the therapies but she has developed some ways to fix or get around some of the problems. So I wouldn't give up even if there are genetics involved. I don't follow her yet but I know she is there in case the avenues in which we go don't heed the results we're looking for. We are seeing some results as of now. Others on this sight follow her protocol and can give you more advice. -

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mb12 valtrex Subject: OT Genetic Testing

Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it more and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to any of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes, prescription anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of

diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex. If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.

I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on this. Thanks.Amber.

June 9, 2006

Amber,

To add to this post. Dr. Yasko believes that the methelation cycle

is the " genetic " part of autism. Think of the methylation cycle like

a revolving door in a hotel building. The revolving door will let in

toxins from the environment and let out those same toxins. Children

who exhibit autistic symptoms have the capability to take in toxins

(revolves one way), but not able to let them out (won't revolve the

other way).

Dr Yasko uses supplements and nutritional support to " bypass " the

problems in the methylation cycle. Think of the methylation cycle

like gears on a clock. Genetic flaws in the methylation cycle cause

the gears to get stuck. Her supplementation and RNA's allow the

cycle to work again.

Chelation is like letting the toxins from out environment out a " back

door " rather then through the revolving door of the methylation

cycle. It does get the toxins out; however, you will have to

continue chelating sporadically throughout the child's life to

continually rid them of toxin buildup. Dr. Amy's protocol allows the

revolving door to be fixed continually.

I think her program is wise and sound. She is brilliant and

understands the majority of what is going on with our children.

Once you order the genetics, it will tell you where your child's

genetic mutations are. It is overwhelming to understand at first, but

gets better as you read more and more about it.

I will also state without hesitation (Dr. Yasko believes this also)

that genetics are only one part of autism. You must have the toxins

from the environment to push the vast majority of children into

autism. Many years ago, children had to have the CBS C699T mutation

to become autistic. Now, she is seeing children with only MTHFR,

MTR, MTRR mutations and they are on the spectrum. This is because

the overload of toxins in our environment now are so intense, the

" autistic bar " has been lowered. It is sad and discouraging, but

true.

My son is one of those children WITHOUT the CBS c699T mutation and I

noticed a very slow decline into autism starting at six months. I'm

sure that his vaccination schedule and DTaP shots from 1998 (loaded

with thimersol) didn't help him.

Most importantly, she believes in recovery and that recovery is a

reality for most. I love her sincere dedication and hope for our

children.

HTH,

---- Original Message ---

From: chapnalli@...

mb12 valtrex

Subject: RE: OT Genetic Testing

Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:48:47 -0400

>Amber,

>

>Dr. Amy Yasko does genetic testing to find out how to treat your

>child.

>Genetic mutations may inhibit some of the therapies but she has

>developed

>some ways to fix or get around some of the problems. So I wouldn't

>give up

>even if there are genetics involved. I don't follow her yet but I

>know she

>is there in case the avenues in which we go don't heed the results

>we're

>looking for. We are seeing some results as of now. Others on this

>sight

>follow her protocol and can give you more advice. -

>

> _____

>

>From: mb12 valtrex

>[mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

>Behalf Of kennetheriklucy

>Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:59 PM

>mb12 valtrex

>Subject: OT Genetic Testing

>

>Has anyone ever heard of genetic testing? It's a test that will

>determine if a person's autism is genetic or environmentally caused.

>Our DAN Dr. has been telling us about it, and lately mentioning it

>more

>and more. He is concerned that my 5 yr old son hasn't responded to

>any

>of the treatments that we've tried on him- diet, enzymes,

>prescription

>anti-fungals including Nystain and diflucan and a double dose of

>diflucan, MB12 shots, and most recently, valtrex.

>If the test comes out that his autism is genetic, then nothing we do

>will work, so we might as well stop treating him, and accept the fact

>

>that he will be like this for the rest of his life and not improve.

>I am very worried, and am wondering if anyone has any more info on

>this.

>Thanks.

>Amber.

>

June 9, 2006

Hi Amber,

At the Boston Dan Jon Pangborn stated that chronic inflammation causes genetic dna mutations to take place in the cells. I personally after all the years of medical research I have done do not believe ANY OF IT IS GENETIC!!!!!It is induced!Just because your child may show mutations do not believe nothing can be done.My child shows 22 genetic mutations that were not there when he was 3 yrs old.The longer the inflammation continues the more mutations they can get. Address the inflammation. If it were my child I would give high doses of anti-oxidants(C ,E, COQ 10,Aloe vera capsules,garlic,monolaurin ,magnesium, calcium,and efalex)I know they say that efalex has arachidonic acid in it but some kids need this. My son has made incredible gains by giving Sam-e. Some kids can't take this. I kept trying different supps and yes it is expensive, but so is a life of autism.

Hope I helped, R

June 9, 2006

this is interesting as we have much mutations and some very similar and we always thought it strange how we'de have the same mutation but whilst some of us ended up with rett's the other only have mild ld. how could the same mutation express itself so differently? also we had a sample of mine childs dna from 6 months old and it didn't reflect half the mutations that showed up at age 5 years, like some more stuff happened, we just assumed maybe it didn't show when she was 6 months old. she still had the full blown mecp2 mutation but other stuff other mutations that weren't there before showed up later.

thanks, this brings up more wonderments.

crabtail

In a message dated 6/9/2006 5:58:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jamaraw@... writes:

Hi Amber,

At the Boston Dan Jon Pangborn stated that chronic inflammation causes genetic dna mutations to take place in the cells. I personally after all the years of medical research I have done do not believe ANY OF IT IS GENETIC!!!!!It is induced!Just because your child may show mutations do not believe nothing can be done.My child shows 22 genetic mutations that were not there when he was 3 yrs old.The longer the inflammation continues the more mutations they can get. Address the inflammation. If it were my child I would give high doses of anti-oxidants(C ,E, COQ 10,Aloe vera capsules,garlic,monolaurin ,magnesium, calcium,and efalex)I know they say that efalex has arachidonic acid in it but some kids need this. My son has made incredible gains by giving Sam-e. Some kids can't take this. I kept trying different supps and yes it is expensive, but so is a life of autism.

Hope I helped, R

June 9, 2006

That was a beautiful tribute!! How

wonderful it is to feel that way about your Dr. I believe too that she does

make sound sense even though my son is not on her protocol. Everything I read

of hers is impressive and she certainly has a loyal following. I appreciated

reading this. Thanks, -

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of tophat123

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:52

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mb12 valtrex

Subject: RE: OT

Genetic Testing