Re: A little more explaining-Maurine

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I can't afford one, yet any really doctor needed questions like whether something will be harmful in low doses we can ask our regular pedia, and ofcourse I'm with 6 different message groups all related to the same goal, healing our children, yes I would love to be able to afford all the tests and drive 2 1/2 hrs, to see a DAN but for now I can't so we are just trying to do everything the safest way possible, and not just sit aside and do nothing, when it comes to help that he may obviously need through lots of questions about signs and symptoms to look for, and I know my son, very very well, since I'm with him everyday. Please know that if you are asking because it would be easier, I know, but just because we don't have that kind of money I can't just wait, GFCF led to supplements and here we are, also knowing that there's a possibility that as long as I know he's at his healthiest I may chelate, we have just decided not to go into the next round because with out any

tests, it's obvious he's having to hard a time with yeast, we'll give it a month, and add reenforcements and maybe try again, as long as he gets healthier between now and then. This is not easy, but the gains out way the means, and I would never put my son in harms way intentionally, yet unintentionally his whole world has already done that to him. Wow, I always really let go. Hope I didn't seem to defensive, I just love both my children so much, and want to do the very best I can for them. Tina and LyricMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck@...> wrote: Tina, It sounds to me like you need a doctor to monitor him. Do you have a DAN?Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: Basically this is where we are and are going to be adding yeast fighters due to a major flare I believe from the ALA we were using to chelate, but I'm sure it would do a much better job if the yeast is brought back under control first and we have reenforcements against yeast. I had recently found out that the probiotic we were using wasn't GFCF, I had no idea, then wham someone says, look closer to the label, and there it was all along, and we are actually adding yeast aid with our new hypo probio gold. Then we'll be waiting a month before seeing if we should wait longer or go back to chelating or trying something different,

before anything I need to help him be strong enough to chelate, I don't want to not be chelating properly due to his body being ill and just wasting my poor little guys energy, I know the first four rounds of ALA really showed him more aware, then the nasty yeast flare and it's still there, just now he's so much more uncomfortable, it's got to be so hard for him to, trying to potty train with all this always going on in his body. Wish us Lots Of Luck, by the way, I know what you mean on trying to find the healthiest yet tastiest foods is about impossible. Those two meanings are almost aposing no matter what. Lyric’s Supplement Schedule Used with the GF/CF Diet

Enzyme Chewable Only before a meal with concerns of infractions Before Breakfast 1 MB12 nasal spray every other day After Breakfast 6 Drops of Liver Life in pearsauce Before Lunch ½ Dropper of Olive Leaf Extract in pearsauce With Lunch 1 tsp. of Vit. C in juice and 1/2 tsp. Cod Liver Oil After Lunch 1 Sea Buddies Vitamin Chewable With Dinner 1 Capsule of Calcium Citrate in pearsauce After Dinner 8 Drops of Liver Life in applesauce At Bedtime 1 Capsule of Zinc in pearsauce (HNI AFP Chewables, organic pear sauce, Coastal Compounding Pharmacy’s mb12 nasal spray 25mg per dose, BioRay, Inc Liver Life drops, Nature’s Plus Olive Leaf Extract drops, TwinLab Emulsified Norwegian Cod Liver Oil about 250mg EPA and 170 mg DHA per dose, Natrol Ester-C Powder 3,000 mg vit. C and 330mg Calcium per dose, Enzymatic Therapy Sea Buddies Multi. Vit. Chewables, TwinLabs Calcium Citrate Capsules 150 mg Calcium and 75 mg Magnesium per dose, TwinLabs Zinc capsules 50 mg per dose) NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: hey, no apologies are allowed here I am purty sure. hee hee. No problem!! Always gald to throw a little more explanation and details out there! So, what ARE you going to do with your child's diet?----I am interested in your "take" on things.------nan Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: that's cool, I follow, sorry I

always take a little more explainingNMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: Saying I find that you can add those Offender Foods back in occasionally, and that we personally are suspecting that the GREASE ie in potato chips (ie lays which ARE GFCF-"OK") is a gut problem-creator. The POTATOES are OK, but the grease/oil in those porcessed foods like this is diff to digest. OK? Great!Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: What, I think I follow but am not entirely sure???NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: us too, with corn and

actually regular bread too...after about 5 years now on purty strict GFCF....We are thinking that CAUTIOUS MODERATION is the buzzword(s). Our doc even told us that whil eit is up to us re diet, he doesn't think it is necessary to be that restrictive. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok, now I hear lots of murmuring about what a whack our doc must be, but based on behav and GI symptoms, it seems that OCCASIONAL corn, wheat, oats, do no harm. I am getting very suspicious of GREASE, ie the SmartPop, or potato chips>..more than a few seem to cause skids. ANyone?Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: My son very occasionally has popcorn and or corn of any kind, if I never see any of the bad reprocutions I hear of like agression and rashes and things, is there a possibility he can keep them in his diet occasionally? It's so

hard to! just ke ep restricting his diet. Thanks, Tina and Lyric Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field

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I can't afford one, yet any really doctor needed questions like whether something will be harmful in low doses we can ask our regular pedia, and ofcourse I'm with 6 different message groups all related to the same goal, healing our children, yes I would love to be able to afford all the tests and drive 2 1/2 hrs, to see a DAN but for now I can't so we are just trying to do everything the safest way possible, and not just sit aside and do nothing, when it comes to help that he may obviously need through lots of questions about signs and symptoms to look for, and I know my son, very very well, since I'm with him everyday. Please know that if you are asking because it would be easier, I know, but just because we don't have that kind of money I can't just wait, GFCF led to supplements and here we are, also knowing that there's a possibility that as long as I know he's at his healthiest I may chelate, we have just decided not to go into the next round because with out any

tests, it's obvious he's having to hard a time with yeast, we'll give it a month, and add reenforcements and maybe try again, as long as he gets healthier between now and then. This is not easy, but the gains out way the means, and I would never put my son in harms way intentionally, yet unintentionally his whole world has already done that to him. Wow, I always really let go. Hope I didn't seem to defensive, I just love both my children so much, and want to do the very best I can for them. Tina and LyricMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck@...> wrote: Tina, It sounds to me like you need a doctor to monitor him. Do you have a DAN?Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: Basically this is where we are and are going to be adding yeast fighters due to a major flare I believe from the ALA we were using to chelate, but I'm sure it would do a much better job if the yeast is brought back under control first and we have reenforcements against yeast. I had recently found out that the probiotic we were using wasn't GFCF, I had no idea, then wham someone says, look closer to the label, and there it was all along, and we are actually adding yeast aid with our new hypo probio gold. Then we'll be waiting a month before seeing if we should wait longer or go back to chelating or trying something different,

before anything I need to help him be strong enough to chelate, I don't want to not be chelating properly due to his body being ill and just wasting my poor little guys energy, I know the first four rounds of ALA really showed him more aware, then the nasty yeast flare and it's still there, just now he's so much more uncomfortable, it's got to be so hard for him to, trying to potty train with all this always going on in his body. Wish us Lots Of Luck, by the way, I know what you mean on trying to find the healthiest yet tastiest foods is about impossible. Those two meanings are almost aposing no matter what. Lyric’s Supplement Schedule Used with the GF/CF Diet

Enzyme Chewable Only before a meal with concerns of infractions Before Breakfast 1 MB12 nasal spray every other day After Breakfast 6 Drops of Liver Life in pearsauce Before Lunch ½ Dropper of Olive Leaf Extract in pearsauce With Lunch 1 tsp. of Vit. C in juice and 1/2 tsp. Cod Liver Oil After Lunch 1 Sea Buddies Vitamin Chewable With Dinner 1 Capsule of Calcium Citrate in pearsauce After Dinner 8 Drops of Liver Life in applesauce At Bedtime 1 Capsule of Zinc in pearsauce (HNI AFP Chewables, organic pear sauce, Coastal Compounding Pharmacy’s mb12 nasal spray 25mg per dose, BioRay, Inc Liver Life drops, Nature’s Plus Olive Leaf Extract drops, TwinLab Emulsified Norwegian Cod Liver Oil about 250mg EPA and 170 mg DHA per dose, Natrol Ester-C Powder 3,000 mg vit. C and 330mg Calcium per dose, Enzymatic Therapy Sea Buddies Multi. Vit. Chewables, TwinLabs Calcium Citrate Capsules 150 mg Calcium and 75 mg Magnesium per dose, TwinLabs Zinc capsules 50 mg per dose) NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: hey, no apologies are allowed here I am purty sure. hee hee. No problem!! Always gald to throw a little more explanation and details out there! So, what ARE you going to do with your child's diet?----I am interested in your "take" on things.------nan Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: that's cool, I follow, sorry I

always take a little more explainingNMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: Saying I find that you can add those Offender Foods back in occasionally, and that we personally are suspecting that the GREASE ie in potato chips (ie lays which ARE GFCF-"OK") is a gut problem-creator. The POTATOES are OK, but the grease/oil in those porcessed foods like this is diff to digest. OK? Great!Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: What, I think I follow but am not entirely sure???NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: us too, with corn and

actually regular bread too...after about 5 years now on purty strict GFCF....We are thinking that CAUTIOUS MODERATION is the buzzword(s). Our doc even told us that whil eit is up to us re diet, he doesn't think it is necessary to be that restrictive. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok, now I hear lots of murmuring about what a whack our doc must be, but based on behav and GI symptoms, it seems that OCCASIONAL corn, wheat, oats, do no harm. I am getting very suspicious of GREASE, ie the SmartPop, or potato chips>..more than a few seem to cause skids. ANyone?Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: My son very occasionally has popcorn and or corn of any kind, if I never see any of the bad reprocutions I hear of like agression and rashes and things, is there a possibility he can keep them in his diet occasionally? It's so

hard to! just ke ep restricting his diet. Thanks, Tina and Lyric Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field

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Tina, If you thin it's yeast-can you get your doctor to write a script for diflucan? PS And I do know how the money problems is-I am living on a fixed income and taking care of my grandson. It's very hard.Tina Payton <amamteews@...> wrote: I can't afford one, yet any really doctor needed questions like whether something will be harmful in low doses we can ask our regular pedia, and ofcourse I'm with 6 different message groups all related to the same goal, healing our children, yes I

would love to be able to afford all the tests and drive 2 1/2 hrs, to see a DAN but for now I can't so we are just trying to do everything the safest way possible, and not just sit aside and do nothing, when it comes to help that he may obviously need through lots of questions about signs and symptoms to look for, and I know my son, very very well, since I'm with him everyday. Please know that if you are asking because it would be easier, I know, but just because we don't have that kind of money I can't just wait, GFCF led to supplements and here we are, also knowing that there's a possibility that as long as I know he's at his healthiest I may chelate, we have just decided not to go into the next round because with out any tests, it's obvious he's having to hard a time with yeast, we'll give it a month, and add reenforcements and maybe try again, as long as he gets healthier between now and then. This is not easy, but the gains out way the means, and I would never put my

son in harms way intentionally, yet unintentionally his whole world has already done that to him. Wow, I always really let go. Hope I didn't seem to defensive, I just love both my children so much, and want to do the very best I can for them. Tina and LyricMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck > wrote: Tina, It sounds to me like you need a doctor to monitor him. Do you have a DAN?Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: Basically this is where we are and are going to be adding yeast fighters due to a major flare I believe from the ALA we were using to chelate, but I'm sure it would do a much better job if the yeast is brought back under control first and

we have reenforcements against yeast. I had recently found out that the probiotic we were using wasn't GFCF, I had no idea, then wham someone says, look closer to the label, and there it was all along, and we are actually adding yeast aid with our new hypo probio gold. Then we'll be waiting a month before seeing if we should wait longer or go back to chelating or trying something different, before anything I need to help him be strong enough to chelate, I don't want to not be chelating properly due to his body being ill and just wasting my poor little guys energy, I know the first four rounds of ALA really showed him more aware, then the nasty yeast flare and it's still there, just now he's so much more uncomfortable, it's got to be so hard for him to, trying to potty train with all this always going on in his body. Wish us Lots Of Luck, by the way, I know what you mean on trying to find the healthiest yet tastiest foods is about impossible. Those two meanings are

almost aposing no matter what. Lyric’s Supplement Schedule Used with the GF/CF Diet Enzyme Chewable Only before a meal with concerns of infractions Before Breakfast 1 MB12 nasal spray every other day After Breakfast 6 Drops of Liver Life in pearsauce Before Lunch ½ Dropper of Olive Leaf Extract in

pearsauce With Lunch 1 tsp. of Vit. C in juice and 1/2 tsp. Cod Liver Oil After Lunch 1 Sea Buddies Vitamin Chewable With Dinner 1 Capsule of Calcium Citrate in pearsauce After Dinner 8 Drops of Liver Life in applesauce At Bedtime 1 Capsule of Zinc in pearsauce (HNI AFP Chewables, organic pear sauce, Coastal Compounding Pharmacy’s mb12 nasal spray 25mg per dose, BioRay, Inc Liver Life drops, Nature’s Plus Olive

Leaf Extract drops, TwinLab Emulsified Norwegian Cod Liver Oil about 250mg EPA and 170 mg DHA per dose, Natrol Ester-C Powder 3,000 mg vit. C and 330mg Calcium per dose, Enzymatic Therapy Sea Buddies Multi. Vit. Chewables, TwinLabs Calcium Citrate Capsules 150 mg Calcium and 75 mg Magnesium per dose, TwinLabs Zinc capsules 50 mg per dose) NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: hey, no apologies are allowed here I am purty sure. hee hee. No problem!! Always gald to throw a little more

explanation and details out there! So, what ARE you going to do with your child's diet?----I am interested in your "take" on things.------nan Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: that's cool, I follow, sorry I always take a little more explainingNMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: Saying I find that you can add those Offender Foods back in occasionally, and that we personally are suspecting that the GREASE ie in potato chips (ie lays which ARE GFCF-"OK") is a gut problem-creator. The POTATOES are OK, but the grease/oil in those porcessed foods like this is diff to digest. OK? Great!Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: What, I think I follow but am not entirely sure???NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: us too, with corn and actually regular bread too...after about 5 years now on purty strict GFCF....We are thinking that CAUTIOUS MODERATION is the buzzword(s). Our doc even told us that whil eit is up to us re diet, he doesn't think it is necessary to be that restrictive. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok, now I hear lots of murmuring about what a whack our doc must be, but based on behav and GI symptoms, it seems that OCCASIONAL corn, wheat, oats, do no harm. I am getting very suspicious of GREASE, ie the SmartPop, or potato chips>..more than a few seem to cause skids. ANyone?Tina Payton <amamteews >

wrote: My son very occasionally has popcorn and or corn of any kind, if I never see any of the bad reprocutions I hear of like agression and rashes and things, is there a possibility he can keep them in his diet occasionally? It's so hard to! just ke ep restricting his diet. Thanks, Tina and Lyric Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field Services/Photography Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field Services/Photography All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! ,and, "Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared." -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field Services/Photography Get your own web address for

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Tina, If you thin it's yeast-can you get your doctor to write a script for diflucan? PS And I do know how the money problems is-I am living on a fixed income and taking care of my grandson. It's very hard.Tina Payton <amamteews@...> wrote: I can't afford one, yet any really doctor needed questions like whether something will be harmful in low doses we can ask our regular pedia, and ofcourse I'm with 6 different message groups all related to the same goal, healing our children, yes I

would love to be able to afford all the tests and drive 2 1/2 hrs, to see a DAN but for now I can't so we are just trying to do everything the safest way possible, and not just sit aside and do nothing, when it comes to help that he may obviously need through lots of questions about signs and symptoms to look for, and I know my son, very very well, since I'm with him everyday. Please know that if you are asking because it would be easier, I know, but just because we don't have that kind of money I can't just wait, GFCF led to supplements and here we are, also knowing that there's a possibility that as long as I know he's at his healthiest I may chelate, we have just decided not to go into the next round because with out any tests, it's obvious he's having to hard a time with yeast, we'll give it a month, and add reenforcements and maybe try again, as long as he gets healthier between now and then. This is not easy, but the gains out way the means, and I would never put my

son in harms way intentionally, yet unintentionally his whole world has already done that to him. Wow, I always really let go. Hope I didn't seem to defensive, I just love both my children so much, and want to do the very best I can for them. Tina and LyricMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck > wrote: Tina, It sounds to me like you need a doctor to monitor him. Do you have a DAN?Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: Basically this is where we are and are going to be adding yeast fighters due to a major flare I believe from the ALA we were using to chelate, but I'm sure it would do a much better job if the yeast is brought back under control first and

we have reenforcements against yeast. I had recently found out that the probiotic we were using wasn't GFCF, I had no idea, then wham someone says, look closer to the label, and there it was all along, and we are actually adding yeast aid with our new hypo probio gold. Then we'll be waiting a month before seeing if we should wait longer or go back to chelating or trying something different, before anything I need to help him be strong enough to chelate, I don't want to not be chelating properly due to his body being ill and just wasting my poor little guys energy, I know the first four rounds of ALA really showed him more aware, then the nasty yeast flare and it's still there, just now he's so much more uncomfortable, it's got to be so hard for him to, trying to potty train with all this always going on in his body. Wish us Lots Of Luck, by the way, I know what you mean on trying to find the healthiest yet tastiest foods is about impossible. Those two meanings are

almost aposing no matter what. Lyric’s Supplement Schedule Used with the GF/CF Diet Enzyme Chewable Only before a meal with concerns of infractions Before Breakfast 1 MB12 nasal spray every other day After Breakfast 6 Drops of Liver Life in pearsauce Before Lunch ½ Dropper of Olive Leaf Extract in

pearsauce With Lunch 1 tsp. of Vit. C in juice and 1/2 tsp. Cod Liver Oil After Lunch 1 Sea Buddies Vitamin Chewable With Dinner 1 Capsule of Calcium Citrate in pearsauce After Dinner 8 Drops of Liver Life in applesauce At Bedtime 1 Capsule of Zinc in pearsauce (HNI AFP Chewables, organic pear sauce, Coastal Compounding Pharmacy’s mb12 nasal spray 25mg per dose, BioRay, Inc Liver Life drops, Nature’s Plus Olive

Leaf Extract drops, TwinLab Emulsified Norwegian Cod Liver Oil about 250mg EPA and 170 mg DHA per dose, Natrol Ester-C Powder 3,000 mg vit. C and 330mg Calcium per dose, Enzymatic Therapy Sea Buddies Multi. Vit. Chewables, TwinLabs Calcium Citrate Capsules 150 mg Calcium and 75 mg Magnesium per dose, TwinLabs Zinc capsules 50 mg per dose) NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: hey, no apologies are allowed here I am purty sure. hee hee. No problem!! Always gald to throw a little more

explanation and details out there! So, what ARE you going to do with your child's diet?----I am interested in your "take" on things.------nan Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: that's cool, I follow, sorry I always take a little more explainingNMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: Saying I find that you can add those Offender Foods back in occasionally, and that we personally are suspecting that the GREASE ie in potato chips (ie lays which ARE GFCF-"OK") is a gut problem-creator. The POTATOES are OK, but the grease/oil in those porcessed foods like this is diff to digest. OK? Great!Tina Payton <amamteews > wrote: What, I think I follow but am not entirely sure???NMS Brach <nanskiwans (DOT) net> wrote: us too, with corn and actually regular bread too...after about 5 years now on purty strict GFCF....We are thinking that CAUTIOUS MODERATION is the buzzword(s). Our doc even told us that whil eit is up to us re diet, he doesn't think it is necessary to be that restrictive. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok, now I hear lots of murmuring about what a whack our doc must be, but based on behav and GI symptoms, it seems that OCCASIONAL corn, wheat, oats, do no harm. I am getting very suspicious of GREASE, ie the SmartPop, or potato chips>..more than a few seem to cause skids. ANyone?Tina Payton <amamteews >

wrote: My son very occasionally has popcorn and or corn of any kind, if I never see any of the bad reprocutions I hear of like agression and rashes and things, is there a possibility he can keep them in his diet occasionally? It's so hard to! just ke ep restricting his diet. Thanks, Tina and Lyric Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field Services/Photography Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field Services/Photography All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Remember: Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground! ,and, "Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared." -Nance Swiderski Brach, Field Services/Photography Get your own web address for

just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

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Tina,

     I totally know how you feel.  My son

turned 6yrs last December and that’s when we were finally able to afford

to get to a DAN and things still aren’t perfect.  We had a major yeast

outbreak that is taking months to fix.  We were supposed to start chelation

last week and his DAN called us and said no go, his yeast is still out of

control.  He had been on a full month of Diflucan.  He had been on Nystatin

since Februrary.  I’ve been changing his diet, etc, etc.  He has raised

liver enzymes and we have to stop the diflucan but it didn’t work

anyway.  We are moving to Uva Ursa.  She said 10 drops 2x per day.  You can get

it at the health food store. 

      It is very frustrating to introduce

something and then have to back off due to worsening effects.  The amount of

information is overwhelming and asking parents for advice is how most of us are

able to figure everything out.  Keep asking questions, when something doesn’t

work make sure it’s just not an adjustment thing and if not change to

something else.  This is a puzzle for all of us.  My DAN says Valtrex does not

create yeast in any way, but I absolutely know that is wrong.  Trust your gut, watch

Lyric closely, be okay with having to back off a little, keep asking questions,

research and more research.  You’ll find the path most suited for him. 

    My son used to wake up for hours every

night until I started him on Milk Thistle.  I know you are on LL but maybe

there’s not enough milk thistle and you could add some more.  You are so

right, you can’t wait.  Concentrate on the biggies, diet, yeast,

antioxidants, zinc, anti-virals and metals.  I know you have Lyric on enzymes. 

My son cannot tolerate any of the ones we have tried.  Calcium and folinic are

others he cannot tolerate.  Lastly, breathe and remember you are a wonderful

advocate for your son.  Some fantastic Mom’s had to remind me of that

last week when I needed the support.  Take care,           

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Tina Payton

Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006

1:46 PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: A

little more explaining-Maurine

I can't afford one, yet any really doctor needed questions like whether

something will be harmful in low doses we can ask our regular pedia, and

ofcourse I'm with 6 different message groups all related to the same goal,

healing our children, yes I would love to be able to afford all the tests and

drive 2 1/2 hrs, to see a DAN but for now I can't so we are just trying to do

everything the safest way possible, and not just sit aside and do nothing, when

it comes to help that he may obviously need through lots of questions about

signs and symptoms to look for, and I know my son, very very well, since I'm

with him everyday. Please know that if you are asking because it would be

easier, I know, but just because we don't have that kind of money I can't just

wait, GFCF led to supplements and here we are, also knowing that there's a

possibility that as long as I know he's at his healthiest I may chelate, we

have just decided not to go into the next round because with out any tests,

it's obvious he's having to hard a time with yeast, we'll give it a month, and

add reenforcements and maybe try again, as long as he gets healthier between

now and then. This is not easy, but the gains out way the means, and I would

never put my son in harms way intentionally, yet unintentionally his whole

world has already done that to him. Wow, I always really let go. Hope I didn't

seem to defensive, I just love both my children so much, and want to do the

very best I can for them. Tina and Lyric

Maurine Meleck

<maurine_meleck > wrote:

Tina, It sounds to me like you need a doctor to monitor him. Do

you have a DAN?

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Tina,

     I totally know how you feel.  My son

turned 6yrs last December and that’s when we were finally able to afford

to get to a DAN and things still aren’t perfect.  We had a major yeast

outbreak that is taking months to fix.  We were supposed to start chelation

last week and his DAN called us and said no go, his yeast is still out of

control.  He had been on a full month of Diflucan.  He had been on Nystatin

since Februrary.  I’ve been changing his diet, etc, etc.  He has raised

liver enzymes and we have to stop the diflucan but it didn’t work

anyway.  We are moving to Uva Ursa.  She said 10 drops 2x per day.  You can get

it at the health food store. 

      It is very frustrating to introduce

something and then have to back off due to worsening effects.  The amount of

information is overwhelming and asking parents for advice is how most of us are

able to figure everything out.  Keep asking questions, when something doesn’t

work make sure it’s just not an adjustment thing and if not change to

something else.  This is a puzzle for all of us.  My DAN says Valtrex does not

create yeast in any way, but I absolutely know that is wrong.  Trust your gut, watch

Lyric closely, be okay with having to back off a little, keep asking questions,

research and more research.  You’ll find the path most suited for him. 

    My son used to wake up for hours every

night until I started him on Milk Thistle.  I know you are on LL but maybe

there’s not enough milk thistle and you could add some more.  You are so

right, you can’t wait.  Concentrate on the biggies, diet, yeast,

antioxidants, zinc, anti-virals and metals.  I know you have Lyric on enzymes. 

My son cannot tolerate any of the ones we have tried.  Calcium and folinic are

others he cannot tolerate.  Lastly, breathe and remember you are a wonderful

advocate for your son.  Some fantastic Mom’s had to remind me of that

last week when I needed the support.  Take care,           

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Tina Payton

Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006

1:46 PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: A

little more explaining-Maurine

I can't afford one, yet any really doctor needed questions like whether

something will be harmful in low doses we can ask our regular pedia, and

ofcourse I'm with 6 different message groups all related to the same goal,

healing our children, yes I would love to be able to afford all the tests and

drive 2 1/2 hrs, to see a DAN but for now I can't so we are just trying to do

everything the safest way possible, and not just sit aside and do nothing, when

it comes to help that he may obviously need through lots of questions about

signs and symptoms to look for, and I know my son, very very well, since I'm

with him everyday. Please know that if you are asking because it would be

easier, I know, but just because we don't have that kind of money I can't just

wait, GFCF led to supplements and here we are, also knowing that there's a

possibility that as long as I know he's at his healthiest I may chelate, we

have just decided not to go into the next round because with out any tests,

it's obvious he's having to hard a time with yeast, we'll give it a month, and

add reenforcements and maybe try again, as long as he gets healthier between

now and then. This is not easy, but the gains out way the means, and I would

never put my son in harms way intentionally, yet unintentionally his whole

world has already done that to him. Wow, I always really let go. Hope I didn't

seem to defensive, I just love both my children so much, and want to do the

very best I can for them. Tina and Lyric

Maurine Meleck

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you have a DAN?

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> We were supposed to start chelation last week and his DAN called us

and said

> no go, his yeast is still out of control.

My experience is that yeast was impossible to get under control until

I chelated. No diet or amount of antifungals worked. Then once I got

got started chelating, Cutler protocol, I had to take plenty of weeks

off to beat the yeast back. Eventually it got controllable, but

chelation is what did it.

Nell

[Guest guest]

> We were supposed to start chelation last week and his DAN called us

and said

> no go, his yeast is still out of control.

My experience is that yeast was impossible to get under control until

I chelated. No diet or amount of antifungals worked. Then once I got

got started chelating, Cutler protocol, I had to take plenty of weeks

off to beat the yeast back. Eventually it got controllable, but

chelation is what did it.

Nell

[Guest guest]

I am under the impression that the yeast needs to go(asmuch as one can) prior to starting chelation. That is how we are doing it, anyway. Chelation works better when the body is ready for it. lanellici <lanellici@...> wrote: > We were supposed to start chelation last week and his DAN called usand said> no go, his yeast is still out of

control.My experience is that yeast was impossible to get under control untilI chelated. No diet or amount of antifungals worked. Then once I gotgot started chelating, Cutler protocol, I had to take plenty of weeksoff to beat the yeast back. Eventually it got controllable, butchelation is what did it.Nell

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I am under the impression that the yeast needs to go(asmuch as one can) prior to starting chelation. That is how we are doing it, anyway. Chelation works better when the body is ready for it. lanellici <lanellici@...> wrote: > We were supposed to start chelation last week and his DAN called usand said> no go, his yeast is still out of

control.My experience is that yeast was impossible to get under control untilI chelated. No diet or amount of antifungals worked. Then once I gotgot started chelating, Cutler protocol, I had to take plenty of weeksoff to beat the yeast back. Eventually it got controllable, butchelation is what did it.Nell

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[Guest guest]

I would agree with Nell. Very commonly the fungal issues are central to metals,

and I'll

add viruses. Both have the capacity to cause chronic fungal/bacterial issues.

- Stan

>

> > We were supposed to start chelation last week and his DAN called us

> and said

> > no go, his yeast is still out of control.

>

> My experience is that yeast was impossible to get under control until

> I chelated. No diet or amount of antifungals worked. Then once I got

> got started chelating, Cutler protocol, I had to take plenty of weeks

> off to beat the yeast back. Eventually it got controllable, but

> chelation is what did it.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

I would agree with Nell. Very commonly the fungal issues are central to metals,

and I'll

add viruses. Both have the capacity to cause chronic fungal/bacterial issues.

- Stan

>

> > We were supposed to start chelation last week and his DAN called us

> and said

> > no go, his yeast is still out of control.

>

> My experience is that yeast was impossible to get under control until

> I chelated. No diet or amount of antifungals worked. Then once I got

> got started chelating, Cutler protocol, I had to take plenty of weeks

> off to beat the yeast back. Eventually it got controllable, but

> chelation is what did it.

>

> Nell

>