Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Just wanted to post our experience and see what others have seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago but after 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast ( white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). We then stopped the valtrex and requested a script from our DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural anti fungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In the few days it took to get the script our sons behavior got really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping, grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucan but have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son is doing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, more social , calmer and talking more. THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! This has always been a major problem for him. Can diflucan somehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We have used major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no help with sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan in years since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast. Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issue either. We did an OAT right before we started valtrex and everything was normal. Thanks for any input! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 diflucan lowers testosterone, lower testosterone levels improve behavior(besides killing yeast which helps behavior) Fund <susan_fund@...> wrote: Just wanted to post our experience and see what othershave seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago butafter 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast (white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). Wethen stopped the valtrex and requested a script fromour DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural antifungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In thefew days it took to get the script our sons behaviorgot really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping,grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucanbut have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son isdoing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, moresocial , calmer and talking more. THE MAJORIMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! Thishas always been a major problem for him. Can diflucansomehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We haveused major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no helpwith sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan inyears since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast.Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issueeither. We did an OAT right before we started valtrexand everything was normal.Thanks for any input!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 THE MAJOR > IMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! This > has always been a major problem for him. Can diflucan > somehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? Yeast definitely causes sound sensitivity for my son. >We have not done diflucan in > years since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast. > Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issue > either. IME observation of symptoms is more accurate than those tests. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 My son is very sound sensitive when he is having a yeast flare-up, so it would make sense that Diflucan would help with that. - Dana R. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of FundSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:31 PMMB12valtrex Subject: Diflucan/sound sensitivity improvements Just wanted to post our experience and see what othershave seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago butafter 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast (white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). Wethen stopped the valtrex and requested a script fromour DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural antifungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In thefew days it took to get the script our sons behaviorgot really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping,grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucanbut have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son isdoing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, moresocial , calmer and talking more. THE MAJORIMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! Thishas always been a major problem for him. Can diflucansomehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We haveused major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no helpwith sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan inyears since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast.Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issueeither. We did an OAT right before we started valtrexand everything was normal.Thanks for any input!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Increased sound sensitivity can be either yeast or low magnesium. I have heard that in some recovered kids, sound sensitivity never goes away (some sort of permanent damage), but it certainly sounds like in your case, it was linked to yeast. Huge congrats! VeraReads <gdread@...> wrote: My son is very sound sensitive when he is having a yeast flare-up, so it would make sense that Diflucan would help with that. - Dana R. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of FundSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:31 PMMB12valtrex Subject: Diflucan/sound sensitivity improvements Just wanted to post our experience and see what othershave seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago butafter 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast (white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). Wethen stopped the valtrex and requested a script fromour DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural antifungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In thefew days it took to get the script our sons behaviorgot really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping,grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucanbut have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son isdoing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, moresocial , calmer and talking more. THE MAJORIMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! Thishas always been a major problem for him. Can diflucansomehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We haveused major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no helpwith sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan inyears since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast.Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issueeither. We did an OAT right before we started valtrexand everything was normal.Thanks for any input!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Increased sound sensitivity can be either yeast or low magnesium. I have heard that in some recovered kids, sound sensitivity never goes away (some sort of permanent damage), but it certainly sounds like in your case, it was linked to yeast. Huge congrats! VeraReads <gdread@...> wrote: My son is very sound sensitive when he is having a yeast flare-up, so it would make sense that Diflucan would help with that. - Dana R. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of FundSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:31 PMMB12valtrex Subject: Diflucan/sound sensitivity improvements Just wanted to post our experience and see what othershave seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago butafter 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast (white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). Wethen stopped the valtrex and requested a script fromour DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural antifungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In thefew days it took to get the script our sons behaviorgot really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping,grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucanbut have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son isdoing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, moresocial , calmer and talking more. THE MAJORIMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! Thishas always been a major problem for him. Can diflucansomehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We haveused major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no helpwith sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan inyears since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast.Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issueeither. We did an OAT right before we started valtrexand everything was normal.Thanks for any input!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 You ask: Can diflucansomehow decrease sound sensitivity?????????? yes, if it makes the gut respond in a + way, it makes the brain process more smoothly---remember the gut-brain connection--- and auditory processing is just one of the many brain functions. Good 4 YOU!!! Continued success!--------Nan , the retired OT w/ sensory integration exper. Fund <susan_fund@...> wrote: Just wanted to post our experience and see what othershave seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago butafter 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast (white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). Wethen stopped the valtrex and requested a script fromour DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural antifungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In thefew days it took to get the script our sons behaviorgot really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping,grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucanbut have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son isdoing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, moresocial , calmer and talking more. THE MAJORIMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! Thishas always been a major problem for him. Can diflucansomehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We haveused major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no helpwith sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan inyears since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast.Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issueeither. We did an OAT right before we started valtrexand everything was normal.Thanks for any input!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 I agree with Vera but you can also add viral infection as a cause for sound senstivitiy. ------ Inner ear and facial nerve complications of acute otitis media with focus on bacteriology and virology. Hyden D, Akerlind B, Peebo M. Department of Otolaryngology, Linkoping University Hospital, Linkoping, Sweden. dag.hyden@... CONCLUSION: Among 20 patients with inner ear complications and/or peripheral facial palsy secondary to acute otitis media (AOM) a proven or probable bacteriological cause was found in 13 (65%). In seven patients (35%), a proven or probable viral cause was found. Only two of the patients (10%), with a proven bacterial AOM and a clinical picture of a purulent labyrinthitis in both, together with a facial palsy in one, had a substantial degree of dysfunction. Although the number of patients in this study is relatively low our findings show that inner ear complications and facial palsy due to AOM can be of both bacterial and viral origin. Severe sequelae were found only where a bacterial origin was proven. OBJECTIVES: Inner ear complications and/or peripheral facial palsy secondary to AOM are rare. The general understanding is that they are due to bacterial infections. However, in some of these patients there are no clinical or laboratory signs of bacterial infections and they have negative bacterial cultures. During recent years different viruses have been isolated from the middle ear or serologically proven in AOM patients and are thought to play a pathogenetic role. We suggest that in some cases of AOM complications from the inner ear and the facial nerve can be caused by viruses. The purpose of our study was to analyze infectious agents present in patients with inner ear complications and/or facial palsy arising from AOM. PATIENTS AND METHODS: The medical records of 20 patients who had inner ear complications and/or facial palsy following AOM ( unilateral in 18, bilateral in 2) between January 1989 and March 2003 were evaluated. Bacterial cultures were carried out for all patients. Sera from 12 of the patients were stored and tested for a battery of specific viral antibodies. In three patients, investigated between November 2002 and March 2003, viral cultures were also performed on samples from the middle ear and nasopharynx. RESULTS: Nineteen patients had inner ear symptoms. Eight of them had a unilateral sensorineural hearing loss and vertigo, three had vertigo as an isolated symptom and one, with bilateral AOM, had bilateral sensorineural hearing loss. Seven patients had a combination of facial palsy and inner ear symptoms (unilateral sensorineural hearing loss in three, unilateral sensorineural hearing loss and vertigo in two, bilateral sensorineural hearing loss and vertigo in one, with bilateral AOM, and vertigo alone in one). One patient had an isolated facial palsy. Healing was complete in 11 of the 20 patients. In seven patients a minor defect remained at follow-up (a sensorineural hearing loss at higher frequencies in all). Only two patients had obvious defects (a pronounced hearing loss in combination with a moderate to severe facial palsy (House- Brackman grade 4) in one, distinct vestibular symptoms and a total caloric loss in combination with a high-frequency loss in the other. Eight patients had positive bacteriological cultures from middle ear contents: Streptococcus pneumoniae in two, beta-hemolytic Streptococcus group A in two, beta-hemolytic Streptococcus group A together with Staphylococcus aureus in one, Staph. aureus alone in one and coagulase- negative staphylococci (interpreted as pathogens) in two. In the 12 patients with negative cultures, there was a probable bacteriological cause due to the outcome in SR/CRP and leukocyte count in five. In four patients serological testing showed a concomitant viral infection that was interpreted to be the cause (varicella zoster virus in two, herpes simplex virus in one and adenovirus in one.) In three there was a probable viral cause despite negative viral antibody test due to normal outcome in SR/CRP, normal leukocyte count, serous fluid at myringotomy and a relatively short pre-complication antibiotic treatment period. PMID: 16698694 [PubMed - in process] ------ Acta Otorrinolaringol Esp. 2006 Apr;57(4):189-92. Links [Varicella-zoster infection with isolated cochleovestibular affectation (without facial palsy)] [Article in Spanish] Gundin G, Monedero G, Teba JM, Esteban L, Sanz R. Servicio de Otorrinolaringologia, Hospital Universitario de Getafe, Madrid. Otological complications of Ramsay Hunt syndrome include facial paralysis, tinnitus, hearing loss, vertigo, dysgeusia, and skin eruption. The lower cranial nerves sometimes are affected by this neuritis. A case is reported of a man without immune-system impairment who had a cranial mononeuritis with unilateral involment of the VIII and VII cranial nerves after infection with varicella-zoster without herpetic lesions. PMID: 16686230 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ----- > My son is very sound sensitive when he is having a yeast flare-up, so it would make sense that Diflucan would help with that. > > - Dana R. > Diflucan/sound sensitivity improvements > > > Just wanted to post our experience and see what others > have seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago but > after 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast ( > white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). We > then stopped the valtrex and requested a script from > our DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural anti > fungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In the > few days it took to get the script our sons behavior > got really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping, > grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucan > but have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son is > doing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, more > social , calmer and talking more. THE MAJOR > IMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! This > has always been a major problem for him. Can diflucan > somehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We have > used major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no help > with sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan in > years since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast. > Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issue > either. We did an OAT right before we started valtrex > and everything was normal. > > Thanks for any input! > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Hi , This is a very typical story when you try Valtrex or OLE without diflucan or nizoral onboard. A yeast flare kicks up. The folks who see the best gains use both at the same time so there isn't any time for the virus and/or fungus to mutate into something harder to kill off. If that were my child I would get the Valtrex in with the Diflucan. This is what we hear works the best. I'm glad you are seeing gains. - Stan > Just wanted to post our experience and see what others > have seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago but > after 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast ( > white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). We > then stopped the valtrex and requested a script from > our DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural anti > fungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In the > few days it took to get the script our sons behavior > got really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping, > grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucan > but have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son is > doing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, more > social , calmer and talking more. THE MAJOR > IMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! This > has always been a major problem for him. Can diflucan > somehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We have > used major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no help > with sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan in > years since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast. > Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issue > either. We did an OAT right before we started valtrex > and everything was normal. > > Thanks for any input! > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 give it at the same time you give the valtrex on a empty stomach?Stan Kurtz <stankurtz@...> wrote: Hi ,This is a very typical story when you try Valtrex or OLE without diflucan or nizoral onboard. A yeast flare kicks up. The folks who see the best gains use both at the same time so there isn't any time for the virus and/or fungus to mutate into something harder to kill off. If that were my child I would get the Valtrex in with the Diflucan. This is what we hear works the best.I'm glad you are seeing gains.- Stan> Just wanted to post our experience and see what others> have seen. We started valtrex a few weeks ago but> after 2 weeks had what seemed like really bad yeast (> white tongue, not sleeping, red ring around anus). We> then stopped the valtrex and requested a script from> our DAN for diflucan..we had been using natural anti> fungals but they were not keeping yeast at bay. In the> few days it took to get the script our sons behavior> got really bad...hitting, biting, not sleeping,> grouchy....just miserable. We started the diflucan> but have not added back the valtrex yet. Our son is> doing great on just the diflucan. He is happier, more> social , calmer and talking more. THE MAJOR> IMPROVEMENT IS HIS SOUND SENSITIVITY IS WAY DOWN! This> has always been a major problem for him. Can diflucan> somehow decrease sound sensitivity??????????? We have> used major amounts of zinc and magnesium with no help> with sound sensitivity. We have not done diflucan in> years since our OAT tests have always showed no yeast.> Our CDSA's have never shown bacteria to be an issue> either. We did an OAT right before we started valtrex> and everything was normal.> > Thanks for any input!> > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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