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From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of natasa778

Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:04

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mb12 valtrex

Subject: Enzymes,

was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

We first tried enzymes ages ago and had to give up as

the taste was vile

and ds would spit them out... same old story. For a while I thought that

all enzymes were like that and no point in trying anything else until

someone mentioned that it is actually the plant enzymes: papain and

bromelain, that give the horrible taste, and suggested we try ZymePrime

and APF Peptizyde - these are the tastless version of Houston original

formulas, we have started the Z one for now and so far no problems, just

pour some in a bit of juice before a meal, no taste!!

here is a site with good description (they don't ship outside UK but

nice clear overview): www.mandimart.com

Best,

Natasa

> >

> > Thanks Natasa,

> >

> > Ever since I read Megson's bethanacol treatment I knew it would

> > definitely relate to CJ's issues. He fits all of the profiles (it

> seems he

> > fits every single profile of all treatments though). I tried

> introducing

> > more Vitamin A through NN children DHA CLO but he is having trouble

> > digesting too much of the oil. I am trying to work up VERY slowly. I

> don't

> > know if he will ever make it to the point of tolerating as much as

> Megson

> > recommends but maybe that just shows how much he needs the

bethanacol

> for it

> > to work. This feels like the never ending road...-

> >

> > BTW, you are really starting to sound like a biologist and

> immunologist.

> > You're soaking it all in like a sponge, I think I've hit

" overwhelm "

> mode so

> > my sponge is a little full at the moment. I need to catch up. LOL!

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: mb12 valtrex@ <mailto:mb12 valtrex%40>

> [mailto:mb12 valtrex@ <mailto:mb12 valtrex%40>

]

> On

> > Behalf Of natasa778

> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:29 AM

> > mb12 valtrex@ <mailto:mb12 valtrex%40>

> > Subject: Re: A New Autism One Radio Show

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quite

a

> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. These

are

> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talks

A

> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This

would be closer to my real

question

> -

> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and how

these

> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calcium

channels.

> >

> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing as

such,

> as

> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am

> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that

> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we

> need

> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and how

to

> go

> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one of

the

> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).

> >

> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's

> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the

> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw

> it,

> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form a

BIG

> > piece of the puzzle...

> >

> > Natasa

> >

>

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From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of natasa778

Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:04

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Enzymes,

was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

We first tried enzymes ages ago and had to give up as

the taste was vile

and ds would spit them out... same old story. For a while I thought that

all enzymes were like that and no point in trying anything else until

someone mentioned that it is actually the plant enzymes: papain and

bromelain, that give the horrible taste, and suggested we try ZymePrime

and APF Peptizyde - these are the tastless version of Houston original

formulas, we have started the Z one for now and so far no problems, just

pour some in a bit of juice before a meal, no taste!!

here is a site with good description (they don't ship outside UK but

nice clear overview): www.mandimart.com

Best,

Natasa

> >

> > Thanks Natasa,

> >

> > Ever since I read Megson's bethanacol treatment I knew it would

> > definitely relate to CJ's issues. He fits all of the profiles (it

> seems he

> > fits every single profile of all treatments though). I tried

> introducing

> > more Vitamin A through NN children DHA CLO but he is having trouble

> > digesting too much of the oil. I am trying to work up VERY slowly. I

> don't

> > know if he will ever make it to the point of tolerating as much as

> Megson

> > recommends but maybe that just shows how much he needs the

bethanacol

> for it

> > to work. This feels like the never ending road...-

> >

> > BTW, you are really starting to sound like a biologist and

> immunologist.

> > You're soaking it all in like a sponge, I think I've hit

" overwhelm "

> mode so

> > my sponge is a little full at the moment. I need to catch up. LOL!

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: mb12 valtrex@ <mailto:mb12 valtrex%40>

> [mailto:mb12 valtrex@ <mailto:mb12 valtrex%40>

]

> On

> > Behalf Of natasa778

> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:29 AM

> > mb12 valtrex@ <mailto:mb12 valtrex%40>

> > Subject: Re: A New Autism One Radio Show

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quite

a

> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. These

are

> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talks

A

> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This

would be closer to my real

question

> -

> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and how

these

> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calcium

channels.

> >

> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing as

such,

> as

> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am

> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that

> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we

> need

> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and how

to

> go

> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one of

the

> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).

> >

> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's

> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the

> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw

> it,

> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form a

BIG

> > piece of the puzzle...

> >

> > Natasa

> >

>

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Re: A New Autism One Radio Show> >> >> >> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quitea> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. Theseare> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talksA> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This would be closer to my realquestion> -> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and howthese> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calciumchannels.> >> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing assuch,> as> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we> need> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and howto> go> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one ofthe> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).> >> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw> it,> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form aBIG> > piece of the puzzle...> >> > Natasa> >>

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Can you tell us how to order the tasteless enzymes? thanks, lisa

Re: A New Autism One Radio Show> >> >> >> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quitea> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. Theseare> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talksA> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This would be closer to my realquestion> -> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and howthese> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calciumchannels.> >> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing assuch,> as> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we> need> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and howto> go> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one ofthe> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).> >> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw> it,> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form aBIG> > piece of the puzzle...> >> > Natasa> >>

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> Can you tell us how to order the tasteless enzymes? thanks, lisa

>

>

>If you are referring to HNI's Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide, go to

www.houstonni.com or www.asdmarket.com. My son has done very well

with these two enzymes as well as No-Phenol (by HNI). I should

mention that there is a taste to both the Zyme Prime and AFP (even

though is says tasteless on the container) but it is easily flavored

in a bit of juice or food. Additionally, they have all three enzymes

in a chewable form that is pretty good tasting. There is an excellent

website for information on all enzymes. www.enzymestuff.com

Hope that helps.

Tina

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> Can you tell us how to order the tasteless enzymes? thanks, lisa

>

>

>If you are referring to HNI's Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide, go to

www.houstonni.com or www.asdmarket.com. My son has done very well

with these two enzymes as well as No-Phenol (by HNI). I should

mention that there is a taste to both the Zyme Prime and AFP (even

though is says tasteless on the container) but it is easily flavored

in a bit of juice or food. Additionally, they have all three enzymes

in a chewable form that is pretty good tasting. There is an excellent

website for information on all enzymes. www.enzymestuff.com

Hope that helps.

Tina

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Re: Enzymes, was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

>> Can you tell us how to order the tasteless enzymes? thanks, lisa> > >If you are referring to HNI's Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide, go to www.houstonni.com or www.asdmarket.com. My son has done very well with these two enzymes as well as No-Phenol (by HNI). I should mention that there is a taste to both the Zyme Prime and AFP (even though is says tasteless on the container) but it is easily flavored in a bit of juice or food. Additionally, they have all three enzymes in a chewable form that is pretty good tasting. There is an excellent website for information on all enzymes. www.enzymestuff.comHope that helps. Tina

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Re: Enzymes, was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

>> Can you tell us how to order the tasteless enzymes? thanks, lisa> > >If you are referring to HNI's Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide, go to www.houstonni.com or www.asdmarket.com. My son has done very well with these two enzymes as well as No-Phenol (by HNI). I should mention that there is a taste to both the Zyme Prime and AFP (even though is says tasteless on the container) but it is easily flavored in a bit of juice or food. Additionally, they have all three enzymes in a chewable form that is pretty good tasting. There is an excellent website for information on all enzymes. www.enzymestuff.comHope that helps. Tina

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Hi ,

FYI I just wanted to let you know that we have tried different enzymes they didn't seem to make a difference. Houston enzymes I saw positive changes in my daughter. This was probably one of the first things that I saw a noticeable difference in her cognitive abilities. We use Peptizyde, Zyme Prime and/or No-Phenol depending on what she is eating.

--------- Re: A New Autism One Radio Show> >> >> >> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quitea> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. Theseare> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talks

A> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This would be closer to my realquestion> -> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and howthese> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calciumchannels.> >> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing assuch,> as> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we> need> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and howto> go> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one ofthe> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).> >> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw> it,> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form aBIG> > piece of the puzzle...> >> > Natasa> >>

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Hi ,

FYI I just wanted to let you know that we have tried different enzymes they didn't seem to make a difference. Houston enzymes I saw positive changes in my daughter. This was probably one of the first things that I saw a noticeable difference in her cognitive abilities. We use Peptizyde, Zyme Prime and/or No-Phenol depending on what she is eating.

--------- Re: A New Autism One Radio Show> >> >> >> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quitea> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. Theseare> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talks

A> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This would be closer to my realquestion> -> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and howthese> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calciumchannels.> >> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing assuch,> as> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we> need> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and howto> go> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one ofthe> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).> >> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw> it,> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form aBIG> > piece of the puzzle...> >> > Natasa> >>

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I just wanted to add something. My son tolerates all houston's enzymes just fine. BUT for me, I'm gluten and casein intolerant and I've taken Peptizyde twice. These give me severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, sensitivity to light and sound, diahhrea within 1 hour of taking them and for up to 24 hrs to recover. I looked on the website and these enzymes shouldn't be taken if you have ulcers or mold allergies. Well....duh, I have both.

It could be that having such a severe reaction is due to a mold allergy that you don't know about. Or H.pylori bacteria which causes ulcers. It's not a bad idea to get these 2 things tested.

I wouldn't wish this reaction on my worst enemy and unfortunately it's how many of our kids feel on a daily basis.

Tami

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I just wanted to add something. My son tolerates all houston's enzymes just fine. BUT for me, I'm gluten and casein intolerant and I've taken Peptizyde twice. These give me severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, sensitivity to light and sound, diahhrea within 1 hour of taking them and for up to 24 hrs to recover. I looked on the website and these enzymes shouldn't be taken if you have ulcers or mold allergies. Well....duh, I have both.

It could be that having such a severe reaction is due to a mold allergy that you don't know about. Or H.pylori bacteria which causes ulcers. It's not a bad idea to get these 2 things tested.

I wouldn't wish this reaction on my worst enemy and unfortunately it's how many of our kids feel on a daily basis.

Tami

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I just wanted to add something. My son tolerates all houston's enzymes just fine. BUT for me, I'm gluten and casein intolerant and I've taken Peptizyde twice. These give me severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, sensitivity to light and sound, diahhrea within 1 hour of taking them and for up to 24 hrs to recover. I looked on the website and these enzymes shouldn't be taken if you have ulcers or mold allergies. Well....duh, I have both.

It could be that having such a severe reaction is due to a mold allergy that you don't know about. Or H.pylori bacteria which causes ulcers. It's not a bad idea to get these 2 things tested.

I wouldn't wish this reaction on my worst enemy and unfortunately it's how many of our kids feel on a daily basis.

Tami

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Thanks ,

I have the

chewables from Houston

and my son runs screaming through the house. Since I’ve tried

introducing them he will no long take any chewable vitamins. I think I

tried introducing them too close to all of the other prescriptions. Even

though he’s not functionally verbal and sometimes you think he’s

not listening to anything you say he is soooo smart. He heard me tell his

teacher I have a new chewable enzyme I was about to try. I’ll have

to be a little sneakier next time. Thanks for the encouragement.

-

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of gartgal@...

Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:26

AM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re:

Enzymes, was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

Hi

,

FYI I

just wanted to let you know that we have tried different enzymes they didn't

seem to make a difference. Houston

enzymes I saw positive changes in my daughter. This was probably one of

the first things that I saw a noticeable difference in her cognitive

abilities. We use Peptizyde, Zyme Prime and/or No-Phenol depending

on what she is eating.

--------- Re: A New Autism One Radio Show

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quite

a

> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. These

are

> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talks

A

> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This

would be closer to my real

question

> -

> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and how

these

> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calcium

channels.

> >

> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing as

such,

> as

> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am

> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that

> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we

> need

> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and how

to

> go

> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one of

the

> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).

> >

> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's

> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the

> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw

> it,

> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form a

BIG

> > piece of the puzzle...

> >

> > Natasa

> >

>

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Thanks ,

I have the

chewables from Houston

and my son runs screaming through the house. Since I’ve tried

introducing them he will no long take any chewable vitamins. I think I

tried introducing them too close to all of the other prescriptions. Even

though he’s not functionally verbal and sometimes you think he’s

not listening to anything you say he is soooo smart. He heard me tell his

teacher I have a new chewable enzyme I was about to try. I’ll have

to be a little sneakier next time. Thanks for the encouragement.

-

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of gartgal@...

Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:26

AM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re:

Enzymes, was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

Hi

,

FYI I

just wanted to let you know that we have tried different enzymes they didn't

seem to make a difference. Houston

enzymes I saw positive changes in my daughter. This was probably one of

the first things that I saw a noticeable difference in her cognitive

abilities. We use Peptizyde, Zyme Prime and/or No-Phenol depending

on what she is eating.

--------- Re: A New Autism One Radio Show

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Stan, Dr Deth is definitely the guy for this - he has done quite

a

> > lot of research on dopamine receptors, notably D4 receptors. These

are

> > linked to calcium channels. In his Autism One presentation he talks

A

> > LOT about membrane fluidity. This

would be closer to my real

question

> -

> > ie interdependence between these receptors and channels and how

these

> > modulate each other, with the focus being on L-type calcium

channels.

> >

> > My question is NOT related to problems of calcium processing as

such,

> as

> > those problems would be downstream of membrane dysfunctions and I am

> > sure Dr Deth has not gone into that area (Alison, I believe that

> > somehow our kids' problems are related to membrane dysfunctions, we

> need

> > guys like and to help figure out how exactly, and how

to

> go

> > about testing and treatment - VitA/bethanacol treatment is one of

the

> > possible answers, for some of our kids!).

> >

> > Megson presented on both 2005 and 2006 Autism One. This year's

> > presentation focused closely on calcium channelopathy and one of the

> > possible treatments for channel modulation. Not sure if Dr Deth saw

> it,

> > but I believe the two presentation would link up nicely to form a

BIG

> > piece of the puzzle...

> >

> > Natasa

> >

>

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Yep..check the houston's website and click on the enzyme you used, scroll down and read the contraindication section. It's nice to at least have an answer as to why the reaction.

By the way, at autism one, I cheated big time on my diet GFCF and got some samples of Kirkman enzymes, I had no reaction. I haven't looked at the ingredients though or checked the website for contraindications on theirs. Good luck.

Tami

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Yep..check the houston's website and click on the enzyme you used, scroll down and read the contraindication section. It's nice to at least have an answer as to why the reaction.

By the way, at autism one, I cheated big time on my diet GFCF and got some samples of Kirkman enzymes, I had no reaction. I haven't looked at the ingredients though or checked the website for contraindications on theirs. Good luck.

Tami

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Very interesting. Both my son and I

have mold allergies no ulcers though. BINGO.

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Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:11

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re:

Enzymes, was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

I just wanted to add something. My son tolerates all houston's enzymes just

fine. BUT for me, I'm gluten and casein intolerant and I've taken

Peptizyde twice. These give me severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting,

sensitivity to light and sound, diahhrea within 1 hour of taking them and for

up to 24 hrs to recover. I looked on the website and these enzymes

shouldn't be taken if you have ulcers or mold allergies. Well....duh, I

have both.

It could be that having such a severe reaction is due to a mold allergy

that you don't know about. Or H.pylori bacteria which causes

ulcers. It's not a bad idea to get these 2 things tested.

I wouldn't wish this reaction on my worst enemy and unfortunately it's

how many of our kids feel on a daily basis.

Tami

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Very interesting. Both my son and I

have mold allergies no ulcers though. BINGO.

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Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:11

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re:

Enzymes, was: Bethanacol, was: A New Autism One Radio Show

I just wanted to add something. My son tolerates all houston's enzymes just

fine. BUT for me, I'm gluten and casein intolerant and I've taken

Peptizyde twice. These give me severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting,

sensitivity to light and sound, diahhrea within 1 hour of taking them and for

up to 24 hrs to recover. I looked on the website and these enzymes

shouldn't be taken if you have ulcers or mold allergies. Well....duh, I

have both.

It could be that having such a severe reaction is due to a mold allergy

that you don't know about. Or H.pylori bacteria which causes

ulcers. It's not a bad idea to get these 2 things tested.

I wouldn't wish this reaction on my worst enemy and unfortunately it's

how many of our kids feel on a daily basis.

Tami

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>

> I just wanted to add something. My son tolerates all houston's enzymes just

> fine. BUT for me, I'm gluten and casein intolerant and I've taken Peptizyde

> twice. These give me severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, sensitivity to

> light and sound, diahhrea within 1 hour of taking them and for up to 24 hrs to

> recover. I looked on the website and these enzymes shouldn't be taken if you

> have ulcers or mold allergies. Well....duh, I have both.

>

> It could be that having such a severe reaction is due to a mold allergy that

> you don't know about. Or H.pylori bacteria which causes ulcers. It's not a

> bad idea to get these 2 things tested.

>

> I wouldn't wish this reaction on my worst enemy and unfortunately it's how

> many of our kids feel on a daily basis.

>

> Tami

>Tami were are the mold and bacterias coming from are they part of your

Environment???

elizabeth bates

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> I just wanted to add something. My son tolerates all houston's enzymes just

> fine. BUT for me, I'm gluten and casein intolerant and I've taken Peptizyde

> twice. These give me severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, sensitivity to

> light and sound, diahhrea within 1 hour of taking them and for up to 24 hrs to

> recover. I looked on the website and these enzymes shouldn't be taken if you

> have ulcers or mold allergies. Well....duh, I have both.

>

> It could be that having such a severe reaction is due to a mold allergy that

> you don't know about. Or H.pylori bacteria which causes ulcers. It's not a

> bad idea to get these 2 things tested.

>

> I wouldn't wish this reaction on my worst enemy and unfortunately it's how

> many of our kids feel on a daily basis.

>

> Tami

>Tami were are the mold and bacterias coming from are they part of your

Environment???

elizabeth bates

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