Re: Day 35 Has anyone seen this?

[Guest guest]

Moving this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

Moving this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

Missy,

I forgot… What anti yeast protocol

are you on? My son started having the same behaviors but they are totally

yeast and I really have to pick up the protocol.

-

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Nadeau

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:03

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Day 35

Has anyone seen this?

Moving this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

Missy,

I forgot… What anti yeast protocol

are you on? My son started having the same behaviors but they are totally

yeast and I really have to pick up the protocol.

-

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Nadeau

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:03

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Day 35

Has anyone seen this?

Moving this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

-

Drew is taking ½ tsp. Of Diflucan

and 1 tsp. Of Nystatin twice a day. I’m not sure what else to do

for him. I know I should think about the SCD for him, but he is so

restricted as it is. I’m not sure I can pull it off!

Missy

Re: Day 35

Has anyone seen this?

Moving this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

-

Drew is taking ½ tsp. Of Diflucan

and 1 tsp. Of Nystatin twice a day. I’m not sure what else to do

for him. I know I should think about the SCD for him, but he is so

restricted as it is. I’m not sure I can pull it off!

Missy

Re: Day 35

Has anyone seen this?

Moving this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Missy,

It's not a typical response to the therapy.

I'm not sure how long the regression has been for you so I can't

speak to that.

I wonder if the " hair-like " things are actually hair. If so, then

this is effecting the folicals and could be bacteria. Either way it

sounds more bacterial or fungal based than it does viral based on it

showing up on the arms and the description of the rash... but that's

obviously just my opinion at this point.

I would consider doing Diflucan more often and Nystatin less and

doing an OATS test asap to see what bacteria or fungus might be the

cause.

In the meantime, to do some natural antimicrobial and natural

antifungal on top of what you are doing might be a good idea as well.

In my view, I believe the answer will be bacterial or fungal.

Keep us posted.

- Stan

> >

> > Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things

popping

> > out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> > seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

> >

> > He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I

expect

> > these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving

him? I

> > can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> > behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is

this

> > because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be

loaded

> > with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

> >

> > Missy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Missy,

It's not a typical response to the therapy.

I'm not sure how long the regression has been for you so I can't

speak to that.

I wonder if the " hair-like " things are actually hair. If so, then

this is effecting the folicals and could be bacteria. Either way it

sounds more bacterial or fungal based than it does viral based on it

showing up on the arms and the description of the rash... but that's

obviously just my opinion at this point.

I would consider doing Diflucan more often and Nystatin less and

doing an OATS test asap to see what bacteria or fungus might be the

cause.

In the meantime, to do some natural antimicrobial and natural

antifungal on top of what you are doing might be a good idea as well.

In my view, I believe the answer will be bacterial or fungal.

Keep us posted.

- Stan

> >

> > Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things

popping

> > out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> > seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

> >

> > He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I

expect

> > these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving

him? I

> > can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> > behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is

this

> > because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be

loaded

> > with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

> >

> > Missy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I just read the subject line and can obviously see how long

you've been on Valtrex. That said, my posts stands as is.

- Stan

> >

> > Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things

popping

> > out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> > seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

> >

> > He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I

expect

> > these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving

him? I

> > can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> > behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is

this

> > because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be

loaded

> > with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

> >

> > Missy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I just read the subject line and can obviously see how long

you've been on Valtrex. That said, my posts stands as is.

- Stan

> >

> > Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things

popping

> > out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> > seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

> >

> > He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I

expect

> > these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving

him? I

> > can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> > behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is

this

> > because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be

loaded

> > with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

> >

> > Missy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I just read the subject line and can obviously see how long

you've been on Valtrex. That said, my posts stands as is.

- Stan

> >

> > Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things

popping

> > out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> > seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

> >

> > He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I

expect

> > these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving

him? I

> > can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> > behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is

this

> > because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be

loaded

> > with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

> >

> > Missy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Also...all the people who have morgellon's have lyme disease as well. Lyme disease is also very common in kids with autism , although it goes primarily undiagnosed because it's not a standard test that the DAN docs run.

There is a website that has pictures of different parasites that people with lyme can have. One of them has little thread-like fibers. I believe the site is www.lymephotos.com

beware...it's really graphic and may gross you out, but may help you to identify what could be going on.

Tami

[Guest guest]

Also...all the people who have morgellon's have lyme disease as well. Lyme disease is also very common in kids with autism , although it goes primarily undiagnosed because it's not a standard test that the DAN docs run.

There is a website that has pictures of different parasites that people with lyme can have. One of them has little thread-like fibers. I believe the site is www.lymephotos.com

beware...it's really graphic and may gross you out, but may help you to identify what could be going on.

Tami

[Guest guest]

Missy,

     When I read your post something was

nagging at me about a condition I had read about but I couldn’t remember

the name.  Well I finally did today.  When you described the rash with “hair

like things” coming out I thought maybe you should look into morgellons. 

This is a bacterial condition I think, that can cause extreme irritation, pain

and people feel like things are crawling all over their bodies.  I couldn’t

find the original article that I had read but here’s a link you can read

more about it.   

http://www.morgellons.org/

     I also wanted to mention that the

original piece I read was about a lot of children with Autism have this

condition.  Dr. Jacquelyn McCandless recommends using flagal when using

diflucan because the bacteria can creep in and take over where the yeast used

to be.  Maybe this could be a treatment to try for your son.  You’ve got

the viral in check, the yeast in check but we can’t forget about the

bacteria our kids can experience.  I really hope this helps.  Good luck,

 

    

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Missy Nadeau

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:39

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: RE: Re: Day

35 Has anyone seen this?

-

Drew is taking ½ tsp. Of Diflucan and 1 tsp. Of Nystatin

twice a day. I’m not sure what else to do for him. I know I

should think about the SCD for him, but he is so restricted as it is.

I’m not sure I can pull it off!

Missy

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Message-----

From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Chap 'n Ali

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:21

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: RE: Re: Day

35 Has anyone seen this?

Missy,

I forgot… What anti yeast protocol

are you on? My son started having the same behaviors but they are totally

yeast and I really have to pick up the protocol.

-

From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Nadeau

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:03

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Day 35

Has anyone seen this?

Moving

this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

Missy,

     When I read your post something was

nagging at me about a condition I had read about but I couldn’t remember

the name.  Well I finally did today.  When you described the rash with “hair

like things” coming out I thought maybe you should look into morgellons. 

This is a bacterial condition I think, that can cause extreme irritation, pain

and people feel like things are crawling all over their bodies.  I couldn’t

find the original article that I had read but here’s a link you can read

more about it.   

http://www.morgellons.org/

     I also wanted to mention that the

original piece I read was about a lot of children with Autism have this

condition.  Dr. Jacquelyn McCandless recommends using flagal when using

diflucan because the bacteria can creep in and take over where the yeast used

to be.  Maybe this could be a treatment to try for your son.  You’ve got

the viral in check, the yeast in check but we can’t forget about the

bacteria our kids can experience.  I really hope this helps.  Good luck,

 

    

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Missy Nadeau

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:39

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: RE: Re: Day

35 Has anyone seen this?

-

Drew is taking ½ tsp. Of Diflucan and 1 tsp. Of Nystatin

twice a day. I’m not sure what else to do for him. I know I

should think about the SCD for him, but he is so restricted as it is.

I’m not sure I can pull it off!

Missy

-----Original

Message-----

From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Chap 'n Ali

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:21

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: RE: Re: Day

35 Has anyone seen this?

Missy,

I forgot… What anti yeast protocol

are you on? My son started having the same behaviors but they are totally

yeast and I really have to pick up the protocol.

-

From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Nadeau

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:03

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Day 35

Has anyone seen this?

Moving

this up for a reply.

>

> Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things popping

> out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

>

> He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is this

> because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

>

> Missy

>

[Guest guest]

They are basically symptoms of an immune system gone amuck, thanks

to the wonderful vaccine schedule initiated and furiously maintained

by the CDC and AAP. Our poor kids, what they have to deal with on a

daily basis. Missy you may want to get to an EAV naturopath or a

BioSet practitioner for now and see if they can come up with a

remedy for this acute condition. May want to up the immune and

methylation/ sulphation supports and maybe stop the Valtrex for a

bit, let him recover a bit. This is just awful.

Gayatri

>

> Also...all the people who have morgellon's have lyme disease as

well. Lyme

> disease is also very common in kids with autism , although it goes

primarily

> undiagnosed because it's not a standard test that the DAN docs run.

>

> There is a website that has pictures of different parasites that

people with

> lyme can have. One of them has little thread-like fibers. I

believe the site

> is www.lymephotos.com

> beware...it's really graphic and may gross you out, but may help

you to

> identify what could be going on.

>

> Tami

>

[Guest guest]

They are basically symptoms of an immune system gone amuck, thanks

to the wonderful vaccine schedule initiated and furiously maintained

by the CDC and AAP. Our poor kids, what they have to deal with on a

daily basis. Missy you may want to get to an EAV naturopath or a

BioSet practitioner for now and see if they can come up with a

remedy for this acute condition. May want to up the immune and

methylation/ sulphation supports and maybe stop the Valtrex for a

bit, let him recover a bit. This is just awful.

Gayatri

>

> Also...all the people who have morgellon's have lyme disease as

well. Lyme

> disease is also very common in kids with autism , although it goes

primarily

> undiagnosed because it's not a standard test that the DAN docs run.

>

> There is a website that has pictures of different parasites that

people with

> lyme can have. One of them has little thread-like fibers. I

believe the site

> is www.lymephotos.com

> beware...it's really graphic and may gross you out, but may help

you to

> identify what could be going on.

>

> Tami

>

[Guest guest]

Missy, I totally agree with Alison on this, especially after reading

about the pleomorphism issues last night (see my post of yesterday). As

much as we steer up yeast by antifungals, we could also be re-awakening

nasty bacteria by one way on another. would make sense to approach the

nasties from all sides.

Natasa

> >

> > Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things

popping

> > out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> > seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

> >

> > He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> > these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> > can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> > behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is

this

> > because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> > with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

> >

> > Missy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Missy, I totally agree with Alison on this, especially after reading

about the pleomorphism issues last night (see my post of yesterday). As

much as we steer up yeast by antifungals, we could also be re-awakening

nasty bacteria by one way on another. would make sense to approach the

nasties from all sides.

Natasa

> >

> > Drew now has a pimply rash with little white, hairlike things

popping

> > out of them. This rash is mainly on his face and arms. Has anyone

> > seen this? He's been hyper, obsessive, OCD, and whiny.

> >

> > He still seems to be doing so bad. How much longer should I expect

> > these regressions? Is there anything else I should be giving him? I

> > can't take much more of this. It's sooo scary seeing all these

> > behaviors when he was doing better before we started Valtrex. Is

this

> > because he is so much older (9 in August) or could he just be loaded

> > with viruses and that's why this is taking soooo long?????

> >

> > Missy

> >

>