Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Hi Kathy, I think this is outside the remit of a speech therapist and stems from a lack of understanding of ASD. > The Junior High Speech Therapist has concluded that my Asperger son's > behavior problems stem from a lack of impulsivity filter. > > Has anyone here ever run across this term? > > In other words, he knows and can recite what his reaction to different > situations should be but is unable to carry it out when he finds > himself in the situation. > > They want me to consider medication and therapy for him. > People with ASD can *appear* impulsive (which is part of ADHD) because although they apparently 'know the rules' as indicated by being able to recite them, they don't apply them. But it is not a lack of an impusivity filter (just a fancy way of saying they act without thinking). It is because this set of rules is just a series of words to them and they cannot apply them to a situation, nor can they generalise them to another situation (however similar it may be and however obvious it may be to NTs that the rules apply there as well). in England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 -------Original Message------- From: Rowell Date: 02/06/06 10:39:50 Hi Kathy, I think this is outside the remit of a speech therapist and stems from a lack of understanding of ASD. > The Junior High Speech Therapist has concluded that my Asperger son's > behavior problems stem from a lack of impulsivity filter. > > Has anyone here ever run across this term? > > In other words, he knows and can recite what his reaction to different > situations should be but is unable to carry it out when he finds > himself in the situation. > > They want me to consider medication and therapy for him. > People with ASD can *appear* impulsive (which is part of ADHD) because although they apparently 'know the rules' as indicated by being able to recite them, they don't apply them. But it is not a lack of an impulsivity filter (just a fancy way of saying they act without thinking). It is because this set of rules is just a series of words to them and they cannot apply them to a situation, nor can they generalise them to another situation (however similar it may be and however obvious it may be to NTs that the rules apply there as well). in England ************************* That's because it seems that the rules don't apply. I still have that problem. My wife will say " I don't want you to do X because of Y and Z " If Y and Z don't apply, I am likely to go ahead and do it. She tends to give me very long explanations, trying to cover all possible cases, or she simply says " I don't want you to do X " . My son is the same. He also has ADHD, so sometimes it is just that he didn't think about what might happen. When people give a rule and then examples to illustrate the rule, unless I understand the principle behind the rule, I am likely to assume the rule applies *because* of the circumstances in the examples, and so if the circumstances are different, the rule obviously doesn't apply. If I am told " Don't do X because Y might happen " , and it is obvious that Y won't happen, I happily ignore the rule, as again it obviously doesn't apply. Because of that, if I want my son not to do something, I simply say " don't! " . If he does do it, and turns around and says " But it was OK because of X " , I am usually quite happy to accept that, which drives my wife mad. I don't know if others are the same, but that is why I have problems with transferring rules to different situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Kathy, I think it would be appropriate for you to ask; What qualifications does a Jr High Speech Therapist have to make conclusion's regarding 'behavior problems'. 'The lack of impulsivity filter' as it is described here is quite characteristic of AS. Has anything specific caused her to determine this? Was she performing an impulsivity evaluation at the time? It never ceases to amaze me how those who interact with our ASD kids on an occasional basis can be so brazen in their determinations, and yet they so easily dismiss we parents who have known our children since the beginning. Dont misunderstand, I appreciate the input of specialists, HOWEVER, I am skeptical when someone easily suggests therapy and meds, when the very nature of their disability is communications disorder, both for sending and receiving. Sorry, I just get a little ill about this kind of thing. Joy psalms2go4 <psalms2go4@...> wrote: The Junior High Speech Therapist has concluded that my Asperger son's behavior problems stem from a lack of impulsivity filter.Has anyone here ever run across this term?In other words, he knows and can recite what his reaction to different situations should be but is unable to carry it out when he finds himself in the situation.They want me to consider medication and therapy for him.Thanks for any input.Kathy T. - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 I must have chocolate impulsivity filter. I know I am not supposed to eat it, but when I am confronted with chocolate-especially dark chocolate-a part of brain takes over that I just cannot control. I'm not making light of the situation-just poking fun of teachers/therapists who pick up a new phrase at a conference and cannot wait to strut it out in front of parents. mom to 16yo-Asperger's 9yo-Autism 9yo-whiner-itis --------- Re: Impulsivity filter? > > Kathy, > > I think it would be appropriate for you to ask; What qualifications does a > Jr High Speech Therapist have to make conclusion's regarding 'behavior > problems'. > 'The lack of impulsivity filter' as it is described here is quite > characteristic of AS. > Has anything specific caused her to determine this? Was she performing an > impulsivity evaluation at the time? > It never ceases to amaze me how those who interact with our ASD kids on an > occasional basis can be so brazen in their determinations, and yet they so > easily dismiss we parents who have known our children since the beginning. > Dont misunderstand, I appreciate the input of specialists, HOWEVER, I am > skeptical when someone easily suggests therapy and meds, when the very nature of > their disability is communications disorder, both for sending and receiving. > > Sorry, I just get a little ill about this kind of thing. > > Joy > > > > psalms2go4 wrote: > The Junior High Speech Therapist has concluded that my Asperger son's > behavior problems stem from a lack of impulsivity filter. > > Has anyone here ever run across this term? > > In other words, he knows and can recite what his reaction to different > situations should be but is unable to carry it out when he finds > himself in the situation. > > They want me to consider medication and therapy for him. > > Thanks for any input. > > Kathy T. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > ! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "Autism and Aspergers Treatment" on the web. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 This is a real eye opener for me. Thanks for the informative reply, . What course of action would you recommend? Kathy T. Rowell <nancy@...> wrote: People with ASD can *appear* impulsive (which is part of ADHD) because although they apparently 'know the rules' as indicated by being able to recite them, they don't apply them. But it is not a lack of an impusivity filter (just a fancy way of saying they act without thinking). It is because this set of rules is just a series of words to them and they cannot apply them to a situation, nor can they generalise them to another situation (however similar it may be and however obvious it may be to NTs that the rules apply there as well). Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Yes, this is a problem with impulsivity in children with executive functioning problems. The child has difficulty using forethought to inhibit his response. This is often seen in Asperger's with possible AD/HD. Bill > > The Junior High Speech Therapist has concluded that my Asperger son's > behavior problems stem from a lack of impulsivity filter. > > Has anyone here ever run across this term? > > In other words, he knows and can recite what his reaction to different > situations should be but is unable to carry it out when he finds > himself in the situation. > > They want me to consider medication and therapy for him. > > Thanks for any input. > > Kathy T. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I don't know of a test per sa, but I have seen questionaires that assess executive functioning skills. If I can find one I will email it to you. bill > >> > >> The Junior High Speech Therapist has concluded that my Asperger son's > >> behavior problems stem from a lack of impulsivity filter. > >> > >> Has anyone here ever run across this term? > >> > >> In other words, he knows and can recite what his reaction to > > different > >> situations should be but is unable to carry it out when he finds > >> himself in the situation. > >> > >> They want me to consider medication and therapy for him. > >> > >> Thanks for any input. > >> > >> Kathy T. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I don't know of a test per sa, but I have seen questionaires that assess executive functioning skills. If I can find one I will email it to you. bill > >> > >> The Junior High Speech Therapist has concluded that my Asperger son's > >> behavior problems stem from a lack of impulsivity filter. > >> > >> Has anyone here ever run across this term? > >> > >> In other words, he knows and can recite what his reaction to > > different > >> situations should be but is unable to carry it out when he finds > >> himself in the situation. > >> > >> They want me to consider medication and therapy for him. > >> > >> Thanks for any input. > >> > >> Kathy T. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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