Re: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

[Guest guest]

,

My son has been on valtrex since he was 26 mos. old (he will be 4

next month!) He also regressed after the Varicella at his 1 yr.

vaccines, and was a huge responder to valtrex (resolved almost all

gross motor delays and heavily dealt with sensory issues). We began

chelation at 29 mos. old/td dmps, using diflucan and other rx

antifungals on and off for the past 18 mos. (Only going SCDiet were

we able to pull all yeast treatment except low dose nystatin which

isn't hard on the liver). We have never tried ACTOS, but have been

on LDN for 8 mos.

-- In mb12 valtrex , " tophat123 " <ehulsebus@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist

who

> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

>

> He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he

> was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can

ruin

> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the

Actos

> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

> believes it is very dangerous.

>

> My questions are;

>

> Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan,

MB12

> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and

we

> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm

all

> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

> the process.

>

> My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

> concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical

ridge

> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has

so

> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with

this?

>

> Thanks so much for you help!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

My son has been on valtrex since he was 26 mos. old (he will be 4

next month!) He also regressed after the Varicella at his 1 yr.

vaccines, and was a huge responder to valtrex (resolved almost all

gross motor delays and heavily dealt with sensory issues). We began

chelation at 29 mos. old/td dmps, using diflucan and other rx

antifungals on and off for the past 18 mos. (Only going SCDiet were

we able to pull all yeast treatment except low dose nystatin which

isn't hard on the liver). We have never tried ACTOS, but have been

on LDN for 8 mos.

-- In mb12 valtrex , " tophat123 " <ehulsebus@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist

who

> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

>

> He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he

> was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can

ruin

> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the

Actos

> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

> believes it is very dangerous.

>

> My questions are;

>

> Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan,

MB12

> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and

we

> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm

all

> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

> the process.

>

> My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

> concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical

ridge

> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has

so

> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with

this?

>

> Thanks so much for you help!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

a,

My DAN will

not do diflucan and TD-DMPS together at all. So we are doing a 3 week

course and then going back on nystatin to start chelation and when nystatin isn’t

cutting it I add GSE or another natural to it. We’ve been on

Valtrex since March 10th and I would not have added chelation until

after the healing regression period was over. I know Stan really likes

the Diflucan and Valtrex and I think they are probably okay as long as you are

doing liver function tests every several weeks, but remember he did not chelate

Ethan. So, all three might be over the top.

I also believe

you should have a liver support on board with this protocol like milk thistle

for sure. I cannot comment on Actos because it is not a treatment I have

investigated or have in mind at all. You do have a lot of time he is 2

years old. If the varicella was a cause I think valtrex is a good

treatment and most of our kids need to be chelated but there might be a little

too much on board for his little body. Valtrex does cross the blood brain

barrier, so I think it could help the swelling but I am not a Dr. As for

MB-12 it is extremely safe and I think helps the process along better.

After all that

said, most main stream Dr.s do not understand our kids and their bodies.

They don’t believe in the viral or mercury components and I think they

are drastically wrong to miss the connections. But this is a process you

have to research well and feel comfortable with. The real questions are;

How is your son doing? What are his symptoms? And is he over taxed?

What are his blood tests revealing about his liver functions? Etc.

I hope this helps and good luck,

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of tophat123

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:55

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Stan and

Group: Difflucan Question

Hi Everyone,

I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist who

specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but he

was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos

we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

believes it is very dangerous.

My questions are;

Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12

shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and we

believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

the process.

My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so

much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?

Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

a,

My DAN will

not do diflucan and TD-DMPS together at all. So we are doing a 3 week

course and then going back on nystatin to start chelation and when nystatin isn’t

cutting it I add GSE or another natural to it. We’ve been on

Valtrex since March 10th and I would not have added chelation until

after the healing regression period was over. I know Stan really likes

the Diflucan and Valtrex and I think they are probably okay as long as you are

doing liver function tests every several weeks, but remember he did not chelate

Ethan. So, all three might be over the top.

I also believe

you should have a liver support on board with this protocol like milk thistle

for sure. I cannot comment on Actos because it is not a treatment I have

investigated or have in mind at all. You do have a lot of time he is 2

years old. If the varicella was a cause I think valtrex is a good

treatment and most of our kids need to be chelated but there might be a little

too much on board for his little body. Valtrex does cross the blood brain

barrier, so I think it could help the swelling but I am not a Dr. As for

MB-12 it is extremely safe and I think helps the process along better.

After all that

said, most main stream Dr.s do not understand our kids and their bodies.

They don’t believe in the viral or mercury components and I think they

are drastically wrong to miss the connections. But this is a process you

have to research well and feel comfortable with. The real questions are;

How is your son doing? What are his symptoms? And is he over taxed?

What are his blood tests revealing about his liver functions? Etc.

I hope this helps and good luck,

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of tophat123

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:55

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Stan and

Group: Difflucan Question

Hi Everyone,

I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist who

specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but he

was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos

we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

believes it is very dangerous.

My questions are;

Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12

shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and we

believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

the process.

My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so

much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?

Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

,

Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the biomed that we do for our kids.

My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN conferences and say its a bunch of bunk.

He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money. He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9 y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to high functioning. He told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge difference.

Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs will. And other parents will.

Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I personally don't know anything about it. Others here may have experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors, family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut, and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its up to you, Mom. And you can do it.

Hi Everyone, I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist whospecializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but hewas very, very concerned about the "medications" that we are givinghim. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruinyour liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 yearold, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actoswe have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or theValtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol andbelieves it is very dangerous.My questions are;Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and webelieve he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm allabout fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child inthe process.My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, veryconcerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridgeon the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has somuch inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Doviruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

,

Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the biomed that we do for our kids.

My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN conferences and say its a bunch of bunk.

He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money. He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9 y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to high functioning. He told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge difference.

Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs will. And other parents will.

Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I personally don't know anything about it. Others here may have experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors, family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut, and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its up to you, Mom. And you can do it.

Hi Everyone, I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist whospecializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but hewas very, very concerned about the "medications" that we are givinghim. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruinyour liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 yearold, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actoswe have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or theValtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol andbelieves it is very dangerous.My questions are;Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and webelieve he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm allabout fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child inthe process.My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, veryconcerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridgeon the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has somuch inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Doviruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote:

a,

My DAN will not do diflucan and TD-DMPS together at all. So we are doing a 3 week course and then going back on nystatin to start chelation and when nystatin isn't cutting it I add GSE or another natural to it. We've been on Valtrex since March 10

th and I would not have added chelation until after the healing regression period was over. I know Stan really likes the Diflucan and Valtrex and I think they are probably okay as long as you are doing liver function tests every several weeks, but remember he did not chelate Ethan. So, all three might be over the top.

I also believe you should have a liver support on board with this protocol like milk thistle for sure. I cannot comment on Actos because it is not a treatment I have investigated or have in mind at all. You do have a lot of time he is 2 years old. If the varicella was a cause I think valtrex is a good treatment and most of our kids need to be chelated but there might be a little too much on board for his little body. Valtrex does cross the blood brain barrier, so I think it could help the swelling but I am not a Dr. As for MB-12 it is extremely safe and I think helps the process along better.

After all that said, most main stream Dr.s do not understand our kids and their bodies. They don't believe in the viral or mercury components and I think they are drastically wrong to miss the connections. But this is a process you have to research well and feel comfortable with. The real questions are; How is your son doing? What are his symptoms? And is he over taxed? What are his blood tests revealing about his liver functions? Etc. I hope this helps and good luck,

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of tophat123Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:55 PM

mb12 valtrex Subject: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi Everyone, I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist whospecializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but hewas very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are givinghim. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 yearold, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actoswe have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or theValtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

believes it is very dangerous.My questions are;Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and webelieve he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child inthe process.My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, veryconcerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has somuch inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Doviruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote:

a,

My DAN will not do diflucan and TD-DMPS together at all. So we are doing a 3 week course and then going back on nystatin to start chelation and when nystatin isn't cutting it I add GSE or another natural to it. We've been on Valtrex since March 10

th and I would not have added chelation until after the healing regression period was over. I know Stan really likes the Diflucan and Valtrex and I think they are probably okay as long as you are doing liver function tests every several weeks, but remember he did not chelate Ethan. So, all three might be over the top.

I also believe you should have a liver support on board with this protocol like milk thistle for sure. I cannot comment on Actos because it is not a treatment I have investigated or have in mind at all. You do have a lot of time he is 2 years old. If the varicella was a cause I think valtrex is a good treatment and most of our kids need to be chelated but there might be a little too much on board for his little body. Valtrex does cross the blood brain barrier, so I think it could help the swelling but I am not a Dr. As for MB-12 it is extremely safe and I think helps the process along better.

After all that said, most main stream Dr.s do not understand our kids and their bodies. They don't believe in the viral or mercury components and I think they are drastically wrong to miss the connections. But this is a process you have to research well and feel comfortable with. The real questions are; How is your son doing? What are his symptoms? And is he over taxed? What are his blood tests revealing about his liver functions? Etc. I hope this helps and good luck,

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of tophat123Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:55 PM

mb12 valtrex Subject: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi Everyone, I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist whospecializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but hewas very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are givinghim. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 yearold, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actoswe have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or theValtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

believes it is very dangerous.My questions are;Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and webelieve he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child inthe process.My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, veryconcerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has somuch inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Doviruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

Hi Amber,

My GI doc had no

problem prescribing the diflucan with the valtrex only because I had milk

thistle on board. It is by far my favorite supplement and I never forget

it because it provides my son and me with full nights of sleep!! It’s

adding the chelation part that also affects the liver that leads me to want to

do diflucan in spurts instead of full time. My DAN sells me my milk

thistle it’s called Milk Thistle Max-V from

labs. 250mg milk thistle herbal extract and 100 mg of milk thistle seed. Liver

Life from bioray is also another product a lot of the parents are using

successfully. If you ask me liver is such a key part to our children’s

issues. Even my mainstream docs like the effects of milk thistle for

liver function, support and detoxification. -

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Amber Eisler

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:41

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Stan

and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a

double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been

getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the

valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and

saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in

the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor

little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I

am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver

support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

[Guest guest]

Hi Amber,

My GI doc had no

problem prescribing the diflucan with the valtrex only because I had milk

thistle on board. It is by far my favorite supplement and I never forget

it because it provides my son and me with full nights of sleep!! It’s

adding the chelation part that also affects the liver that leads me to want to

do diflucan in spurts instead of full time. My DAN sells me my milk

thistle it’s called Milk Thistle Max-V from

labs. 250mg milk thistle herbal extract and 100 mg of milk thistle seed. Liver

Life from bioray is also another product a lot of the parents are using

successfully. If you ask me liver is such a key part to our children’s

issues. Even my mainstream docs like the effects of milk thistle for

liver function, support and detoxification. -

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Amber Eisler

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:41

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Stan

and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a

double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been

getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the

valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and

saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in

the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor

little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I

am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver

support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, .

Would the milk thistle that you buy from the health food store be good, or do you recommend the labs one?

Thanks, again.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote:

Hi Amber,

My GI doc had no problem prescribing the diflucan with the valtrex only because I had milk thistle on board. It is by far my favorite supplement and I never forget it because it provides my son and me with full nights of sleep!! It's adding the chelation part that also affects the liver that leads me to want to do diflucan in spurts instead of full time. My DAN sells me my milk thistle it's called Milk Thistle Max-V from labs. 250mg milk thistle herbal extract and 100 mg of milk thistle seed. Liver Life from bioray is also another product a lot of the parents are using successfully. If you ask me liver is such a key part to our children's issues. Even my mainstream docs like the effects of milk thistle for liver function, support and detoxification. -

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Amber EislerSent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:41 PM

mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, .

Would the milk thistle that you buy from the health food store be good, or do you recommend the labs one?

Thanks, again.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote:

Hi Amber,

My GI doc had no problem prescribing the diflucan with the valtrex only because I had milk thistle on board. It is by far my favorite supplement and I never forget it because it provides my son and me with full nights of sleep!! It's adding the chelation part that also affects the liver that leads me to want to do diflucan in spurts instead of full time. My DAN sells me my milk thistle it's called Milk Thistle Max-V from labs. 250mg milk thistle herbal extract and 100 mg of milk thistle seed. Liver Life from bioray is also another product a lot of the parents are using successfully. If you ask me liver is such a key part to our children's issues. Even my mainstream docs like the effects of milk thistle for liver function, support and detoxification. -

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Amber EislerSent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:41 PM

mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

>

> Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the

biomed that we do for our kids.

>

> My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest

HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm

doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN

conferences and say its a bunch of bunk.

>

> He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money.

He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9

y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to high functioning. He

told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know

enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every

day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at

this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money

for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him

a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-

fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage

to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge

difference.

>

> Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover

him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs

will. And other parents will.

>

> Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is

the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I

personally don't know anything about it. Others here may have

experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is

personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there

will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors,

family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with

what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut,

and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very

common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its

not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to

help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its

up to you, Mom. And you can do it.

>

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist

who

> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

>

> He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he

> was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos

> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

> believes it is very dangerous.

>

> My questions are;

>

> Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan,

MB12

> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and

we

> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

> the process.

>

> My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

> concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so

> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with

this?

>

> Thanks so much for you help!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

>

> Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the

biomed that we do for our kids.

>

> My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest

HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm

doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN

conferences and say its a bunch of bunk.

>

> He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money.

He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9

y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to high functioning. He

told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know

enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every

day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at

this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money

for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him

a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-

fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage

to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge

difference.

>

> Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover

him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs

will. And other parents will.

>

> Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is

the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I

personally don't know anything about it. Others here may have

experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is

personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there

will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors,

family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with

what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut,

and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very

common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its

not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to

help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its

up to you, Mom. And you can do it.

>

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist

who

> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

>

> He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he

> was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos

> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

> believes it is very dangerous.

>

> My questions are;

>

> Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan,

MB12

> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and

we

> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

> the process.

>

> My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

> concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so

> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with

this?

>

> Thanks so much for you help!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

The Dan protocol properly monitiored by a dan physician is safe

Kaiser and traditional allopaths are biased against the help offered

by Dan and Yasko. Sad but thats the way it is

> ,

>

> Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the

biomed that we do for our kids.

>

> My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest

HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm

doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN

conferences and say its a bunch of bunk.

>

> He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money.

He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9

y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to high functioning. He

told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know

enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every

day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at

this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money

for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him

a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-

fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage

to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge

difference.

>

> Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover

him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs

will. And other parents will.

>

> Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is

the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I

personally don't know anything about it. Others here may have

experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is

personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there

will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors,

family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with

what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut,

and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very

common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its

not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to

help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its

up to you, Mom. And you can do it.

>

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist

who

> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

>

> He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he

> was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos

> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

> believes it is very dangerous.

>

> My questions are;

>

> Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan,

MB12

> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and

we

> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

> the process.

>

> My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

> concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so

> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with

this?

>

> Thanks so much for you help!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

The Dan protocol properly monitiored by a dan physician is safe

Kaiser and traditional allopaths are biased against the help offered

by Dan and Yasko. Sad but thats the way it is

> ,

>

> Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the

biomed that we do for our kids.

>

> My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest

HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm

doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN

conferences and say its a bunch of bunk.

>

> He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money.

He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9

y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to high functioning. He

told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know

enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every

day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at

this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money

for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him

a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-

fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage

to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge

difference.

>

> Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover

him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs

will. And other parents will.

>

> Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is

the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I

personally don't know anything about it. Others here may have

experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is

personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there

will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors,

family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with

what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut,

and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very

common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its

not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to

help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its

up to you, Mom. And you can do it.

>

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist

who

> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.

>

> He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he

> was very, very concerned about the " medications " that we are giving

> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin

> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year

> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos

> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the

> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and

> believes it is very dangerous.

>

> My questions are;

>

> Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan,

MB12

> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and

we

> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in

> the process.

>

> My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very

> concerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge

> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so

> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do

> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with

this?

>

> Thanks so much for you help!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not , but what about Liver Life or TAPS (www.pslchiro.com ) from Thorne.

Re: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote:

a,

My DAN will not do diflucan and TD-DMPS together at all. So we are doing a 3 week course and then going back on nystatin to start chelation and when nystatin isn't cutting it I add GSE or another natural to it. We've been on Valtrex since March 10 th and I would not have added chelation until after the healing regression period was over. I know Stan really likes the Diflucan and Valtrex and I think they are probably okay as long as you are doing liver function tests every several weeks, but remember he did not chelate Ethan. So, all three might be over the top.

I also believe you should have a liver support on board with this protocol like milk thistle for sure. I cannot comment on Actos because it is not a treatment I have investigated or have in mind at all. You do have a lot of time he is 2 years old. If the varicella was a cause I think valtrex is a good treatment and most of our kids need to be chelated but there might be a little too much on board for his little body. Valtrex does cross the blood brain barrier, so I think it could help the swelling but I am not a Dr. As for MB-12 it is extremely safe and I think helps the process along better.

After all that said, most main stream Dr.s do not understand our kids and their bodies. They don't believe in the viral or mercury components and I think they are drastically wrong to miss the connections. But this is a process you have to research well and feel comfortable with. The real questions are; How is your son doing? What are his symptoms? And is he over taxed? What are his blood tests revealing about his liver functions? Etc. I hope this helps and good luck,

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of tophat123Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:55 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi Everyone, I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist whospecializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but hewas very, very concerned about the "medications" that we are givinghim. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 yearold, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actoswe have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or theValtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and believes it is very dangerous.My questions are;Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and webelieve he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child inthe process.My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, veryconcerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has somuch inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Doviruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

Not , but what about Liver Life or TAPS (www.pslchiro.com ) from Thorne.

Re: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan, sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote:

a,

My DAN will not do diflucan and TD-DMPS together at all. So we are doing a 3 week course and then going back on nystatin to start chelation and when nystatin isn't cutting it I add GSE or another natural to it. We've been on Valtrex since March 10 th and I would not have added chelation until after the healing regression period was over. I know Stan really likes the Diflucan and Valtrex and I think they are probably okay as long as you are doing liver function tests every several weeks, but remember he did not chelate Ethan. So, all three might be over the top.

I also believe you should have a liver support on board with this protocol like milk thistle for sure. I cannot comment on Actos because it is not a treatment I have investigated or have in mind at all. You do have a lot of time he is 2 years old. If the varicella was a cause I think valtrex is a good treatment and most of our kids need to be chelated but there might be a little too much on board for his little body. Valtrex does cross the blood brain barrier, so I think it could help the swelling but I am not a Dr. As for MB-12 it is extremely safe and I think helps the process along better.

After all that said, most main stream Dr.s do not understand our kids and their bodies. They don't believe in the viral or mercury components and I think they are drastically wrong to miss the connections. But this is a process you have to research well and feel comfortable with. The real questions are; How is your son doing? What are his symptoms? And is he over taxed? What are his blood tests revealing about his liver functions? Etc. I hope this helps and good luck,

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of tophat123Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:55 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi Everyone, I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist whospecializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but hewas very, very concerned about the "medications" that we are givinghim. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 yearold, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actoswe have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or theValtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and believes it is very dangerous.My questions are;Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and webelieve he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination). I'm all

about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child inthe process.My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, veryconcerned about his enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has somuch inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Doviruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?Thanks so much for you help!

[Guest guest]

Just make sure of the mgs. I bought one

from the store for my husband and noticed the marked difference in mgs.

Although my son needs really good liver support.

-

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Amber Eisler

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:41

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Stan

and Group: Difflucan Question

Thanks for the info, .

Would the milk thistle that you buy from the health food store be good,

or do you recommend the labs one?

Thanks, again.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n

Ali <chapnalli@...>

wrote:

Hi Amber,

My GI doc had no problem prescribing the diflucan with the valtrex only because

I had milk thistle on board. It is by far my favorite supplement and I

never forget it because it provides my son and me with full nights of sleep!!

It's adding the chelation part that also affects the liver that leads me to

want to do diflucan in spurts instead of full time. My DAN sells me my

milk thistle it's called Milk Thistle Max-V from

labs. 250mg milk thistle herbal extract and 100 mg of milk thistle seed.

Liver Life from bioray is also another product a lot of the parents are using

successfully. If you ask me liver is such a key part to our children's

issues. Even my mainstream docs like the effects of milk thistle for

liver function, support and detoxification. -

From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Amber Eisler

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:41

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Stan

and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan,

sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started

valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped

the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a

pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it

flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do

worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little

bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind

of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

[Guest guest]

Just make sure of the mgs. I bought one

from the store for my husband and noticed the marked difference in mgs.

Although my son needs really good liver support.

-

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Amber Eisler

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:41

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Stan

and Group: Difflucan Question

Thanks for the info, .

Would the milk thistle that you buy from the health food store be good,

or do you recommend the labs one?

Thanks, again.

Amber.

On 6/26/06, Chap 'n

Ali <chapnalli@...>

wrote:

Hi Amber,

My GI doc had no problem prescribing the diflucan with the valtrex only because

I had milk thistle on board. It is by far my favorite supplement and I

never forget it because it provides my son and me with full nights of sleep!!

It's adding the chelation part that also affects the liver that leads me to

want to do diflucan in spurts instead of full time. My DAN sells me my

milk thistle it's called Milk Thistle Max-V from

labs. 250mg milk thistle herbal extract and 100 mg of milk thistle seed.

Liver Life from bioray is also another product a lot of the parents are using

successfully. If you ask me liver is such a key part to our children's

issues. Even my mainstream docs like the effects of milk thistle for

liver function, support and detoxification. -

From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Amber Eisler

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:41

PM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Stan

and Group: Difflucan Question

Hi ,

My 5 yr old asd son has done Nystatin, diflucan,

sporonax, and then, a double dose of diflucan. Then, 3 weeks ago, he started

valtrex. (and he's been getting MB12 shots for about 4 months, now.) He stopped

the diflucan when the valtrex started, so to control yeast, he gets a

pro-biotic, candex, and saccromyses boulardii 3x a week, and if I see it

flaring up, I'll give GSE in the morning.

He doesn't get any liver support at all, and I do

worry about his poor little liver.

I have heard of milk thistle- can you tell me a little

bit about it, I am thinking of adding it, as I would like to add some kind

of liver support.

Thank-you so much.

Amber.

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what you are doing is great, follow your heart!

Re: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

>The Dan protocol properly monitiored by a dan physician is safeKaiser and traditional allopaths are biased against the help offered by Dan and Yasko. Sad but thats the way it is> ,> > Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the biomed that we do for our kids. > > My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN conferences and say its a bunch of bunk. > > He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money. He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9 y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to

high functioning. He told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge difference.> > Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs will. And other parents will.> > Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I personally don't know anything about it. Others here

may have experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors, family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut, and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its up to you, Mom. And you can do it.> > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist who> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.> > He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he> was very, very concerned about the "medications" that we are giving> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and> believes it is very dangerous.> > My questions are;> > Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and we> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination) . I'm all> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in> the process.> > My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very> concerned about his

enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?> > Thanks so much for you help!> > >

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Hi -

what you are doing is great, follow your heart!

Re: Stan and Group: Difflucan Question

>The Dan protocol properly monitiored by a dan physician is safeKaiser and traditional allopaths are biased against the help offered by Dan and Yasko. Sad but thats the way it is> ,> > Most allopathic (standard Western medical) doctors are against the biomed that we do for our kids. > > My husband works in Finance for Kaiser, the nation's second largest HMO. He is constantly bring me home studies on how all the stuff I'm doing is not proven, doesn't work, etc. Kaiser docs have been to DAN conferences and say its a bunch of bunk. > > He is totally opposed to biomed and thinks I'm wasting our money. He argues with me all the time, but I still do it. I know I have a 9 y.o. ds who went from moderate functioning to

high functioning. He told me every day for 3 years his stomach hurt. He didn't know enought to make that up, as my husband claimed. He gets better every day, and my plan is sill to recover him, even though I've been at this for 5 years. I don't have a DAN doc, and I don't have the money for tests and little access to prescriptions, but I have brought him a long ways with Epsom salt baths, probiotics, enzymes, OTC anti-fungals and anti-virals, supplements, and homeopathy. I did manage to get a prescription for nasal B12 and it has made a huge difference.> > Of course you don't want to hurt your child. You want to recover him. The allopaths will not help you recover him. The DAN docs will. And other parents will.> > Of the list below the only thing I would be very concerned about is the Actos, because it is pretty new to the DAN protocol and I personally don't know anything about it. Others here

may have experience with it. I also choose not to chelate, but that is personal and I respect other parents who do. The point is, there will be many naysayers on your road to recover your son. Doctors, family, neighbors, etc. Do your research so you are comfortable with what you are administering, and then go for it! Listen to your gut, and ignore the rest. And yes, the head inflamation is serious (very common in autism) and could be viral. Medical doctors will say its not, and our kids don't have yeast, ect., yet they do nothing to help. Kaiser actually told me there is nothing I can do. Bull. Its up to you, Mom. And you can do it.> > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I just traveled 8 hours today to see a board certified geneticist who> specializes in Down Syndrome and autistic children.> > He did give us some good news that our son is doing very well, but

he> was very, very concerned about the "medications" that we are giving> him. He was highly concerned about the Difflucan because it can ruin> your liver to the point of transplant. He believes that a 2 year> old, let alone any child, should NOT be on it. He dislikes the Actos> we have him on too. He didn't say much about the TD-DMPS or the> Valtrex. He did say he greatly dislikes the DAN protocol and> believes it is very dangerous.> > My questions are;> > Is it safe to have my 2.8 year old on TD-DMPS, Actos, Difflucan, MB12> shots and Valtrex? We have my son starting Valtrex on Tuesday, and we> believe he needs is (regressed after Varicella vaccination) . I'm all> about fighting fire with fire, but I don't want to hurt my child in> the process.> > My son also has a head circumference in the 97%. We are very, very> concerned about his

enormous head size. He also has a vertical ridge> on the top of his head near his forehead. It's almost like he has so> much inflammation that the plates of his skill are bulging. Do> viruses in the brain cause inflammation? Will Valtrex help with this?> > Thanks so much for you help!> > >