Re: Biopsy...........or not to biopsy..........

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They knocked you out for it? See, I'm scared of having one. Yes, I'm a wimp when it comes to dr's for any reason. And I didn't know they knock you out. I don't care if they knock me out with medicine or a 2x4! As long as they do it!

I gotta call my specialist today. I'm really in a lot of pain.

Thanks for your help.

Take care,

Kathy

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Yes it is a biopsy , it is the most accurate way to tell the level and stage of the hep c damage on the live . My last biopsy they gave me something to relax me and then just when they were going to take the specimen they knocked me out , and when I woke up it was all over . No pain what so ever , I was a little sore afterwards ,,, and that is it . I think the fear of having it done is the worse than actually having it done . It's good to see you today !

Biopsy...........or not to biopsy..........

What is the most accurate way to find out what condition the liver is in? Isn't that a biopsy? And what it is really like? I know WHAT it is. How does it feel?I've heard horror stories............You all know best, I think, from what I've read.Hope everyone is having a good day today.Kathy

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In a message dated 9/20/2006 3:29:35 PM Central Daylight Time, elizabethnv1@... writes:

I think the fear of having it done is the worse than actually having it done . It's good to see you today !

I guess I was really lucky. For some reason, I thought the liver didn't have any nerves, so I wasn't scared, and it didn't hurt at all. They deadened the place where they stuck the needle in, and surely must have done something for the liver itself. I wish you all could have gotten that the way I did. The other day, I even asked for another biopsy so I could find out just how bad my liver is, but the doctor said it was not just for MY information, but his, and since he couldn't give me any more medicine I didn't need it. Isn't it wonderful to have people protect you from yourself? I'm too curious, I guess.

Dar

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I had a sympathetic doc doing it , and conveyed my fears so loudly they had no choice ,lol I hope you get in to see your doc soon if your in pain . Usually a radiologist is the one that does the biopsies at least it is that way here . Take care

Re: Biopsy...........or not to biopsy..........

They knocked you out for it? See, I'm scared of having one. Yes, I'm a wimp when it comes to dr's for any reason. And I didn't know they knock you out. I don't care if they knock me out with medicine or a 2x4! As long as they do it!

I gotta call my specialist today. I'm really in a lot of pain.

Thanks for your help.

Take care,

Kathy

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I had a sympathetic doc doing it , and conveyed my fears so loudly they had no choice ,lol I hope you get in to see your doc soon if your in pain . Usually a radiologist is the one that does the biopsies at least it is that way here . Take care

Re: Biopsy...........or not to biopsy..........

They knocked you out for it? See, I'm scared of having one. Yes, I'm a wimp when it comes to dr's for any reason. And I didn't know they knock you out. I don't care if they knock me out with medicine or a 2x4! As long as they do it!

I gotta call my specialist today. I'm really in a lot of pain.

Thanks for your help.

Take care,

Kathy

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My first biopsy was not successful. They got muscle

instead of tissue. It was through my side between my

ribs. My second one I had done was by a radiologist

and he went straight in from the front. I was a lot

less sore after wards having it done the second way.

The anxiety of having is done was worse then the

procedure for me. It is the best way to see what shape

your liver is in.

Valarie

--- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

> Yes it is a biopsy , it is the most accurate way to

> tell the level and stage of the hep c damage on the

> live . My last biopsy they gave me something to

> relax me and then just when they were going to take

> the specimen they knocked me out , and when I woke

> up it was all over . No pain what so ever , I was a

> little sore afterwards ,,, and that is it . I think

> the fear of having it done is the worse than

> actually having it done . It's good to see you today

> !

> Biopsy...........or

> not to biopsy..........

>

>

> What is the most accurate way to find out what

> condition the liver is

> in? Isn't that a biopsy? And what it is really

> like? I know WHAT it is.

> How does it feel?

> I've heard horror stories............

> You all know best, I think, from what I've read.

> Hope everyone is having a good day today.

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

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Your right about the liver not having any nerves , unfortuanately the the sac around the liver is full of pain receptors . So whenever the liver gets enlarged it rubs up against the sac and then comes the pain . Doctors dont generally care about us learning what is going on in our own bodies , because then if they make a mistake we are more likely to know it . Plus it totally takes away some of their God complex , lol

Re: Biopsy...........or not to biopsy..........

In a message dated 9/20/2006 3:29:35 PM Central Daylight Time, elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net writes:

I think the fear of having it done is the worse than actually having it done . It's good to see you today !I guess I was really lucky. For some reason, I thought the liver didn't have any nerves, so I wasn't scared, and it didn't hurt at all. They deadened the place where they stuck the needle in, and surely must have done something for the liver itself. I wish you all could have gotten that the way I did. The other day, I even asked for another biopsy so I could find out just how bad my liver is, but the doctor said it was not just for MY information, but his, and since he couldn't give me any more medicine I didn't need it. Isn't it wonderful to have people protect you from yourself? I'm too curious, I guess.Dar

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Im so glad its over now Valarie,, you will have to let us know what you find out in regards to the stage of damage you have and what genotype you are! Im glad it went well,, but sorry you had to have it done twice! jaxValarie Page <flap85274@...> wrote: My first biopsy was not successful. They got muscleinstead of tissue. It was through my side between myribs. My second one I had done was by a radiologistand he went straight in from the front. I was a lotless sore

after wards having it done the second way.The anxiety of having is done was worse then theprocedure for me. It is the best way to see what shapeyour liver is in.Valarie--- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:> Yes it is a biopsy , it is the most accurate way to> tell the level and stage of the hep c damage on the> live . My last biopsy they gave me something to> relax me and then just when they were going to take> the specimen they knocked me out , and when I woke> up it was all over . No pain what so ever , I was a> little sore afterwards ,,, and that is it . I think> the fear of having it done is the worse than> actually having it done . It's good to see you today> !> Biopsy...........or> not to biopsy..........> > > What is the most accurate way to find out what> condition the liver is > in? Isn't that a biopsy? And what it is really> like? I know WHAT it is. > How does it feel?> I've heard horror stories............> You all know best, I think, from what I've read.> Hope everyone is having a good day today.> Kathy> > > > __________________________________________________

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Kathy DEMAND that they use conscious sedation,, you are awake enough to follow their commands when they ask you to hold your breath,, but you never remember anything about it,, makes it a piece of cake,, HONEST,, it was so easy this way,, just tell them that you will have the biopsy but ONLY IF you have this procedure,, they will let ya !KVAMP777@... wrote: They knocked you out for it? See, I'm scared of having one. Yes, I'm a wimp when it

comes to dr's for any reason. And I didn't know they knock you out. I don't care if they knock me out with medicine or a 2x4! As long as they do it! I gotta call my specialist today. I'm really in a lot of pain. Thanks for your help. Take care, Kathy Jackie

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I totally agree with ya Liz,, piece of cake!elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Yes it is a biopsy , it is the most accurate way to tell the level and stage of the hep c damage on the live . My last biopsy they gave me something to relax me and then just when they were going to take the specimen they knocked me out , and when I woke up it was all over . No pain what so ever , I was a little sore afterwards ,,, and that is it . I think the fear of having it done is the worse than

actually having it done . It's good to see you today ! Biopsy...........or not to biopsy.......... What is the most accurate way to find out what condition the liver is in? Isn't that a biopsy? And what it is really like? I know WHAT it is. How does it feel?I've heard horror

stories............You all know best, I think, from what I've read.Hope everyone is having a good day today.Kathy Jackie

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Yep Kathy, its the biopsy,, but DEMAND consicous sedation,, then it wont hurt at all..Kathy <KVAMP777@...> wrote: What is the most accurate way to find out what condition the liver is in? Isn't that a biopsy? And what it is really like? I know WHAT it is. How does it feel?I've heard horror stories............You all know best, I think, from what I've read.Hope everyone is having a good day today.KathyJackie

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Liz wrote;...Doctors dont generally care about us learning what is going on in our own bodies , because then if they make a mistake we are more likely to know it . Plus it totally takes away some of their God complex , lolThere is a risk associated with ANY procedure, so if there is no medical reason for a liver biopsy (except the patient's curiosity), it would be unethical for the doc to do it don't you think?Don

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Don writes:

There is a risk associated with ANY procedure, so if there is no medical reason for a liver biopsy (except the patient's curiosity), it would be unethical for the doc to do it don't you think

I believe that too, but it doesn't cost anything to ask. You never know when you might have a pushover, (just teasing, of course)

Dar

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Don, You're right about a Dr ordering a biopsy, and not just having one for curiousity. I, personally, just wanted to talk to people who've had it done. Because of my fear.

I see the Dr on Fri, and will talk to him about how I've been feeling...........

Kathy

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If the patient has not had one in at least 2 yrs then it is acceptable , but to just have them every yr is not right . Besides the insurance companies would put up a stink . I will be having another biopsy in the next 6 months to see about the progression of my disease . It can also help a doc to track the progress of the disease . They use the first biopsy as a baseline and compare the following ones to determine how best to treat the patient .

Re: Biopsy...........or not to biopsy..........

Liz wrote;...Doctors dont generally care about us learning what is going on in our own bodies , because then if they make a mistake we are more likely to know it . Plus it totally takes away some of their God complex , lolThere is a risk associated with ANY procedure, so if there is no medical reason for a liver biopsy (except the patient's curiosity), it would be unethical for the doc to do it don't you think?Don

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I agree Liz,, My gastro, the one that I fired,, he refused to do another biopsy after tx because he said there are risks,, not huge risks, but there are still there and he would feel awful if something happened while he was doing a procedure that was not absolutely necessary.. so I didnt get another biopsy until this last year when I had my gallbladder removed..elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: If the patient has not had one in at least 2 yrs then it is acceptable , but to just have

them every yr is not right . Besides the insurance companies would put up a stink . I will be having another biopsy in the next 6 months to see about the progression of my disease . It can also help a doc to track the progress of the disease . They use the first biopsy as a baseline and compare the following ones to determine how best to treat the patient . Re:

Biopsy...........or not to biopsy.......... Liz wrote;...Doctors dont generally care about us learning what is going on in our own bodies , because then if they make a mistake we are more likely to know it . Plus it totally takes away some of their God complex , lolThere is a risk associated with ANY procedure, so if there is no medical reason for a liver biopsy (except the patient's curiosity), it would be unethical for the doc to do it don't you think?Don Copy addresses and emails from any email account to - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Jackie

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My genotype is 1a and my biopsy shows no scaring or

damage. It is inflamed but just stage 1.

--- Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote:

> Im so glad its over now Valarie,, you will have to

> let us know what you find out in regards to the

> stage of damage you have and what genotype you are!

> Im glad it went well,, but sorry you had to have

> it done twice!

> jax

>

> Valarie Page <flap85274@...> wrote:

>

> My first biopsy was not successful. They got muscle

> instead of tissue. It was through my side between my

> ribs. My second one I had done was by a radiologist

> and he went straight in from the front. I was a lot

> less sore after wards having it done the second way.

> The anxiety of having is done was worse then the

> procedure for me. It is the best way to see what

> shape

> your liver is in.

>

> Valarie

> --- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

>

> > Yes it is a biopsy , it is the most accurate way

> to

> > tell the level and stage of the hep c damage on

> the

> > live . My last biopsy they gave me something to

> > relax me and then just when they were going to

> take

> > the specimen they knocked me out , and when I woke

> > up it was all over . No pain what so ever , I was

> a

> > little sore afterwards ,,, and that is it . I

> think

> > the fear of having it done is the worse than

> > actually having it done . It's good to see you

> today

> > !

> > Biopsy...........or

> > not to biopsy..........

> >

> >

> > What is the most accurate way to find out what

> > condition the liver is

> > in? Isn't that a biopsy? And what it is really

> > like? I know WHAT it is.

> > How does it feel?

> > I've heard horror stories............

> > You all know best, I think, from what I've read.

> > Hope everyone is having a good day today.

> > Kathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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THATS GREAT Valarie!!! that has to be a relief... sorry about having geno 1 cuz if you treat, you have to treat for 48 weeks..Valarie Page <flap85274@...> wrote: My genotype is 1a and my biopsy shows no scaring ordamage. It is inflamed but just stage 1. --- Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:> Im so glad its over now Valarie,, you will have to> let us know what you find out in regards to the> stage of damage you have and what

genotype you are!> Im glad it went well,, but sorry you had to have> it done twice!> jax> > Valarie Page <flap85274 > wrote:> > My first biopsy was not successful. They got muscle> instead of tissue. It was through my side between my> ribs. My second one I had done was by a radiologist> and he went straight in from the front. I was a lot> less sore after wards having it done the second way.> The anxiety of having is done was worse then the> procedure for me. It is the best way to see what> shape> your liver is in.> > Valarie> --- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:> > > Yes it is a biopsy , it is the most accurate way> to> > tell the level and stage of the hep c damage

on> the> > live . My last biopsy they gave me something to> > relax me and then just when they were going to> take> > the specimen they knocked me out , and when I woke> > up it was all over . No pain what so ever , I was> a> > little sore afterwards ,,, and that is it . I> think> > the fear of having it done is the worse than> > actually having it done . It's good to see you> today> > !> > Biopsy...........or> > not to biopsy..........> > > > > > What is the most accurate way to find out what> > condition the

liver is > > in? Isn't that a biopsy? And what it is really> > like? I know WHAT it is. > > How does it feel?> > I've heard horror stories............> > You all know best, I think, from what I've read.> > Hope everyone is having a good day today.> > Kathy> > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________>