Re: 12 yr old Asperger

March 1, 2006

Hi Crystal. Wow, this can't be easy for you. Has childhood bipolar disorder been ruled out? The situation you describe is not that far off from how it has been for my 11 yo son. He has been diagnosed with non-verbal learning disability as well as a mood disorder.

There is a questionnaire that you can view on the JBRF.org website to get an idea if your child has bipolar disorder. Good luck.

Tracey

12 yr old Asperger

HI Everyone! I have been getting newsletters and such for quite a while. As I am learning everyday from my son, he has started doing things he never used too. he is now cutting himslf, because "i like the feeling". I am a little nervouse on that end of things. Is that common? We moved to SD 6 years ago, and up until that point, the doctors AND psych. would just say he was acting out or it was myself and my husband. (this in WI). When we moved here, he was increasingly aggressive toward me mostly and some other kids. Around Christmas, he wanted to look at the lights around town. we did that for about an hour and we started back home. he started spitting on me and kicking the dash until it cracked. He then kept telling me how he was going to kill me in my sleep. after that, he said he was going to kill himself. He was 6 years old. The next day, I found my husband's pocket knife next to the passenger door floor. We asked for some advice and were told to have Tyler taken to a Hospital for a psych evaluation. He was diagnosed with Asperger's. He has been kicked out of the only 3 school in the area and we have had to place him in, now 3 private institutions. It's like he goes through cycles. Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional. But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his medication. Crystal

March 2, 2006

Hi Crystal,

It sounds like your son has alot more issues than just aspergers syndrome

going on.I have 2 asd kids and have been around tons more.This is just not

typical autie behavior.I will tell you to please first check your son's

meds.certain meds made my aspie son very delusional and psychotic.Second,

especially during puberty " some " auties will develop other psychological

conditions.Has your psychologist tested for bipolar or manic depressive?

HTH\,

Theresa

12 yr old Asperger

> HI Everyone! I have been getting newsletters and such for quite a

> while. As I am learning everyday from my son, he has started doing

> things he never used too. he is now cutting himslf, because " i like

> the feeling " . I am a little nervouse on that end of things. Is that

> common?

> We moved to SD 6 years ago, and up until that point, the doctors

> AND psych. would just say he was acting out or it was myself and my

> husband. (this in WI). When we moved here, he was increasingly

> aggressive toward me mostly and some other kids. Around Christmas,

> he wanted to look at the lights around town. we did that for about

> an hour and we started back home. he started spitting on me and

> kicking the dash until it cracked. He then kept telling me how he

> was going to kill me in my sleep. after that, he said he was going

> to kill himself. He was 6 years old. The next day, I found my

> husband's pocket knife next to the passenger door floor. We asked

> for some advice and were told to have Tyler taken to a Hospital for

> a psych evaluation. He was diagnosed with Asperger's. He has been

> kicked out of the only 3 school in the area and we have had to place

> him in, now 3 private institutions. It's like he goes through

> cycles. Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on

> forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional.

> But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his

> medication. Crystal

>

March 2, 2006

He has been diagnosed with everything except ADD/ADHD...if feels like that. But yes, Bi-Polar and he is on Risperdal and Chlonadine. It is hard, I can't imagine how he feels.puresleep1@... wrote: Hi Crystal,It sounds like your son has alot more issues than just aspergers syndrome going on.I have 2 asd kids and have been around tons more.This is just not typical autie behavior.I will tell you to please first check your son's meds.certain meds made my aspie son very delusional and psychotic.Second, especially during puberty "some " auties will develop other psychological conditions.Has your psychologist tested for bipolar or manic depressive?HTH\,Theresa 12 yr old Asperger> HI Everyone! I have been getting newsletters and such for quite a> while. As I am learning everyday from my son, he has started doing> things he never used too. he is now cutting himslf, because "i like> the feeling". I am a little nervouse on that end of things. Is that> common?> We moved to SD 6 years ago, and up until that point, the doctors> AND psych. would just say he was acting out or it was myself and my> husband. (this in WI). When we moved here, he was increasingly> aggressive toward me mostly and some other kids. Around Christmas,> he wanted to look at the lights around town. we did that for about> an hour and we started back home. he started spitting on me and> kicking the dash until it cracked. He then kept telling me how he> was going to kill me in my sleep. after that, he said he was going> to kill

himself. He was 6 years old. The next day, I found my> husband's pocket knife next to the passenger door floor. We asked> for some advice and were told to have Tyler taken to a Hospital for> a psych evaluation. He was diagnosed with Asperger's. He has been> kicked out of the only 3 school in the area and we have had to place> him in, now 3 private institutions. It's like he goes through> cycles. Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on> forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional.> But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his> medication. Crystal>>>>>>>

March 2, 2006

Hi Tracey, yes that is one thing....Ob. Compulsive, ODD, Severe mood disorder, it seems always a new thing..I will look at that site, Thank you,Crystal"Tracey Demmon, Audiologist" <SHI-Tracey@...> wrote: Hi Crystal. Wow, this can't be easy for you. Has childhood bipolar disorder been ruled out? The situation you describe is not that far off from how it has been for my 11 yo son. He has been diagnosed with non-verbal learning disability as well as a mood disorder. There is a questionnaire that you can view on the JBRF.org website to get an idea if your child has bipolar disorder. Good luck. Tracey 12 yr old Asperger HI Everyone! I have been getting newsletters and such for quite a while. As I am learning everyday from my son, he has started doing things he never used too. he is now cutting himslf, because "i like the feeling". I am a little nervouse on that end of things. Is that common? We moved to SD 6 years ago, and up

until that point, the doctors AND psych. would just say he was acting out or it was myself and my husband. (this in WI). When we moved here, he was increasingly aggressive toward me mostly and some other kids. Around Christmas, he wanted to look at the lights around town. we did that for about an hour and we started back home. he started spitting on me and kicking the dash until it cracked. He then kept telling me how he was going to kill me in my sleep. after that, he said he was going to kill himself. He was 6 years old. The next day, I found my husband's pocket knife next to the passenger door floor. We asked for some advice and were told to have Tyler taken to a Hospital for a psych evaluation. He was diagnosed with Asperger's. He has been kicked out of the only 3 school in the area and we have had to place him in, now 3 private institutions. It's like he goes through cycles. Every 6 months he just breaks down.

Anyway, I could go on forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional. But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his medication. CrystalCrystal Statler26 Helen St.St. Onge, SD 57779605-641-3651 crystalfstatler@... alternate e-mail

Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

March 2, 2006

Crystal,

I know this has to be so hard on you & your son.I would like to encourage you to look into some

biomedical options .There are several good sources for you on ,asd-solutions,autism,and GFCF kids..I have seen more improvement in my son with nutritional intervention ,and helping him learn to accept NT people,than with medication.For my son ,medication caused the psychosis.I ,of course respect that other people choose medication and it works for them.

God's blessings for wellness for your family,

Theresa

12 yr old Asperger> HI Everyone! I have been getting newsletters and such for quite a> while. As I am learning everyday from my son, he has started doing> things he never used too. he is now cutting himslf, because "i like> the feeling". I am a little nervouse on that end of things. Is that> common?> We moved to SD 6 years ago, and up until that point, the doctors> AND psych. would just say he was acting out or it was myself and my> husband. (this in WI). When we moved here, he was increasingly> aggressive toward me mostly and some other kids. Around Christmas,> he wanted to look at the lights around town. we did that for about> an hour and we started back home. he started spitting on me and> kicking the dash until it cracked. He then kept telling me how he> was going to kill me in my sleep. after that, he said he was going> to kill himself. He was 6 years old. The next day, I found my> husband's pocket knife next to the passenger door floor. We asked> for some advice and were told to have Tyler taken to a Hospital for> a psych evaluation. He was diagnosed with Asperger's. He has been> kicked out of the only 3 school in the area and we have had to place> him in, now 3 private institutions. It's like he goes through> cycles. Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on> forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional.> But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his> medication. Crystal>>>>>>>

March 2, 2006

>>>>>>>>>>> Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional. But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his medication. Crystal<<<<<<<<<<<<<

What meds is he on and how long has he been on them? My son is almost 10 and was dx'd with Asperger's at 6. He has only had psychotic experiences such as this while on medication. My thoughts are that this may be your son's problem and/or he has an underlying issue other than just Asperger's, like bi-polar, depression or ODD. My son is perfectly natured, but there were times when behavior was horrid. We've found success with diet, vits/mins and a naturopath

March 2, 2006

Crystal, i read your post and i understnad the cycles. My son who is diagnoised autistic also goes thru cycles. He has been treated since 18 months old and has cycled since he was born. he is only 9 but the cycle behavior is changing to more aggressive then when he was little. he also tries to copy other kids and will copy inappropriate behavior he has witnessed over and over again. he has bitten people and makes threats also....Since peter has been mainstreamed this year into the local public school his behavior has really accelerated. He is living and witnessing for the first time all sorts of kids and all sorts of behavior. he was previously in a private school for children with disabilities and the behavior I am seeing now is copying 'regular" kids but to the extreme... I find that anytime peter comes out with something like you describe below [a threat of physical harm for example] I have found that because he is

soooooooooo literal that he hears one kid say to another kid "I'm going to kill you" that has no concept that it is just a phrase used for totally frustartion...And peter will threaten with an object as a weapon.... Self-mutilation is an occurence that can happen with a person with autism. I would contact his MD's , physcologists or social worker and start figuring out what can be done to stop the behavior immediately. if he cycles then you can treat the behaviors during the bad cycle and ease off any meds when things settle down.. puresleep1@... wrote: Hi Crystal,It sounds like your son has alot more issues than just aspergers syndrome going on.I have 2 asd kids and have been around tons more.This is just not typical autie behavior.I will tell you to please first check

your son's meds.certain meds made my aspie son very delusional and psychotic.Second, especially during puberty "some " auties will develop other psychological conditions.Has your psychologist tested for bipolar or manic depressive?HTH\,Theresa 12 yr old Asperger> HI Everyone! I have been getting newsletters and such for quite a> while. As I am learning everyday from my son, he has started doing> things he never used too. he is now cutting himslf, because "i like> the feeling". I am a little nervouse on that end of things. Is that> common?> We moved to SD 6 years ago, and up until that point, the doctors> AND psych. would just say he was acting out or it was myself and my> husband. (this in WI). When

we moved here, he was increasingly> aggressive toward me mostly and some other kids. Around Christmas,> he wanted to look at the lights around town. we did that for about> an hour and we started back home. he started spitting on me and> kicking the dash until it cracked. He then kept telling me how he> was going to kill me in my sleep. after that, he said he was going> to kill himself. He was 6 years old. The next day, I found my> husband's pocket knife next to the passenger door floor. We asked> for some advice and were told to have Tyler taken to a Hospital for> a psych evaluation. He was diagnosed with Asperger's. He has been> kicked out of the only 3 school in the area and we have had to place> him in, now 3 private institutions. It's like he goes through> cycles. Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on> forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very

emotional.> But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his> medication. Crystal>>>>>>>

March 2, 2006

Hi Crystal,

I too am a mom to 2 aspie boys ages 10 and 14. My 10 year old has the

behaviors that you have described with your son. Does your son have

an IEP? School are required to work with kids. If they suspend them

their are steps to take. If you need further information please feel

free to contact me off list.

My little one also has a side of bi-polar. He used to take risperdal

with zoloft. Now he is on those 2 with Abilify while we are weening

from risperdal. You may also need to alert the doctor that the meds

may need to be adjusted. At the age your son is at he is probably

growing fast and his motabilism (sorry for spelling) may be impeding

the meds effects. I have run into this previously and currently,

thankfully we have a dr. appt on Monday to adjust.

Are there any alternative schools in your area? Maybe a residential

school so you can get a break while they try to figure out better ways

to help? Let me know if you need help researching these possibities.

Hugs

JAN

`

March 3, 2006

right now he is on Trileptal and seroquel. He has been kicked out of school at this point due to aggression. my option is to have him in placement, as homeschooling does not work...or the state will step in. We have insurance and have chosen to place him in a facility that is equipped to work with him. he is only there for a few more months, but he is getting worse I feel. his dr wont take him off his meds and he is the on psych on our in network insurance provider. i have bipolar, but i am an adult and can make better choices. i feel fine, other than the broken heart i have from his absence. im just frustrated, he doesnt listen to me, anyone at this point.pjand3kids <pjand3kids@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional. But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his medication. Crystal<<<<<<<<<<<<< What meds is he on and how long has he been on them? My son is almost 10 and was dx'd with Asperger's at 6. He has only had psychotic experiences such as this while on medication. My thoughts are that this may be your son's problem and/or he has an underlying issue other than just Asperger's, like bi-polar, depression or ODD. My son is perfectly natured, but there were times when behavior was horrid.

We've found success with diet, vits/mins and a naturopath. a - Peoria IL <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: Autism and Aspergers Treatment/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Autism and Aspergers Treatment-unsubscribe <*> Your use of is subject to: ________________________________________________________________________Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage.Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up

today!Crystal Statler26 Helen St.St. Onge, SD 57779605-641-3651 crystalfstatler@... alternate e-mail

Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

March 3, 2006

Thanks Jan, Yes he is on an IEP. The school is paying for the educational end of his residential care. we pay the rest. But even so, He has also been taken out of Alternative schools. His issues are so emotional, I can hardly stand to watch him self desrtuct. The facilities they have , have 19-25 year old I will say working as staff and counselors. That is at 90% of residentail places. The 3 in my area are like that. It is hard because I am 30 and still a college student. The young girl(19)who sits next to me is his night staff worker. as she is super nice, can't i do the same job she is for min. wage? it is just frusrating, like I said. I am going to see him after class tomorrow and have an apt. with his Dr. in 3 weeks. I have read about th eother meds, so I will ask.Thanksjan08912000 <janboys0891@...> wrote: Hi Crystal, I too am a

mom to 2 aspie boys ages 10 and 14. My 10 year old has thebehaviors that you have described with your son. Does your son havean IEP? School are required to work with kids. If they suspend themtheir are steps to take. If you need further information please feelfree to contact me off list.My little one also has a side of bi-polar. He used to take risperdalwith zoloft. Now he is on those 2 with Abilify while we are weeningfrom risperdal. You may also need to alert the doctor that the medsmay need to be adjusted. At the age your son is at he is probablygrowing fast and his motabilism (sorry for spelling) may be impedingthe meds effects. I have run into this previously and currently,thankfully we have a dr. appt on Monday to adjust.Are there any alternative schools in your area? Maybe a residentialschool so you can get a break while they try to figure out better

waysto help? Let me know if you need help researching these possibities.HugsJAN`Crystal Statler26 Helen St.St. Onge, SD 57779605-641-3651 crystalfstatler@... alternate e-mail__________________________________________________

March 3, 2006

Hi ,

You have just described my daughter,she also regressed for the first time at around 18 mo.She will make gains and then we have few months of regression,then she comes out of it.And the copying other people to extremes,she will question someone about what they watched on tv,or a toy,or animal they had as a kid.Then she will turn it aroung in a conversation to another person.She was telling somebody she watched Captain Kangeroo(ok I am old)

WHAT is this?It is making her younger nt sister nuts,DD will even take bites of her food at exact same time as sis.It is so strange that we spent all that time when she was little to get her to imitate,

and it has went overboard now that she is a teen

theresa

12 yr old Asperger> HI Everyone! I have been getting newsletters and such for quite a> while. As I am learning everyday from my son, he has started doing> things he never used too. he is now cutting himslf, because "i like> the feeling". I am a little nervouse on that end of things. Is that> common?> We moved to SD 6 years ago, and up until that point, the doctors> AND psych. would just say he was acting out or it was myself and my> husband. (this in WI). When we moved here, he was increasingly> aggressive toward me mostly and some other kids. Around Christmas,> he wanted to look at the lights around town. we did that for about> an hour and we started back home. he started spitting on me and> kicking the dash until it cracked. He then kept telling me how he> was going to kill me in my sleep. after that, he said he was going> to kill himself. He was 6 years old. The next day, I found my> husband's pocket knife next to the passenger door floor. We asked> for some advice and were told to have Tyler taken to a Hospital for> a psych evaluation. He was diagnosed with Asperger's. He has been> kicked out of the only 3 school in the area and we have had to place> him in, now 3 private institutions. It's like he goes through> cycles. Every 6 months he just breaks down. Anyway, I could go on> forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is very emotional.> But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is 'cheeking' his> medication. Crystal>>>>>>>

March 17, 2006

My daughter has only threatened to hurt herself thank

goodness but the " cheeking " the meds struck a chord. I

have to physically make her take her meds and then

check to see that they are swallowed. We have had some

VERY serious meltdowns etc because I have trusted her

to take them when told (I am a single mom with two

other kids who works fulltime so I was trying to let

her have more responsibility for herself in some

areas) She says she shouldn't have to take meds just

to get along with everyone else in the world, THEY

should accept her the way she is but she was miserable

without her meds and she acts out and obsesses etc and

noone can deal with her. She honestly does not see why

she has to take them. I have tried explaining that it

is like a person who is diabetic, their body should be

making insulin in the correct porportions but it is

not, so they have to take it to give the body its

natural balance, it is the same for you, your body

doesn't make some chemicals it should in the correct

porportions so you take these to correct that. Doesn't

fly. I still have to watch her religiously (at 13!) to

make sure she is taking them and not lying about it.

But the meds make such a big differnce for her, she is

not a zombie or anything, she is just Elissa at a good

time, most of the time with her meds. It is like we

have the child she is inside who used to just peek out

sometimes much more often! I did not believe in meds

at all! I did not think it was right to " drug " my

child so the rest of us could deal with her, as a

parent, I felt I should be able to find a way to deal

with her so none of that was necessary but I trusted

our ped (at the time) as he NEVER used ANY meds

unnecessarily and it has made a world of difference!

Sorry, got off on a tanget there!

God Bless!

--- pjand3kids <pjand3kids@...> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> Every 6 months he just breaks down.

> Anyway, I could go on

> forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is

> very emotional.

> But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is

> 'cheeking' his

> medication. Crystal<<<<<<<<<<<<<

> What meds is he on and how long has he been on them?

> My son is almost 10 and was dx'd with Asperger's at

> 6. He has only had psychotic experiences such as

> this while on medication. My thoughts are that this

> may be your son's problem and/or he has an

> underlying issue other than just Asperger's, like

> bi-polar, depression or ODD. My son is perfectly

> natured, but there were times when behavior was

> horrid. We've found success with diet, vits/mins

> and a naturopath.

> a - Peoria IL

>

March 19, 2006

a, That is how I felt about meds until I realized that the reason I wasnt giving them was because I wanted to feel like the supermom who could handle anything. I was ignoring the fact that my son Warren was completely miserable because he could not control his self or his emotions. What a terrible way to spend life. His meds have been a Godsend. No side effects, he is happy, on the honor roll at school, got his picture on the Hall of Fame in the office. Truth be told I dont think he would have been able to cope without the meds. Some people unfortunately have brains that dont work like everyone else's and medication is the only option. Its just a fact. Eating healthy and taking supplements has also helped plus regular excercise.... But the meds was huge difference for him. in Lancaster, Cad corbin <jdcorbin_2000@...> wrote: My daughter has only threatened to hurt herself thankgoodness but the "cheeking" the meds struck a chord. Ihave to physically make her take her meds and thencheck to see that they are swallowed. We have had someVERY serious meltdowns etc because I have trusted herto take them when told (I am a single mom with twoother kids who works fulltime so I was trying to lether have more responsibility for herself in someareas) She says she shouldn't have to take meds justto get along with everyone else in the world, THEYshould accept her the way she is but she was miserablewithout her meds and she acts out and obsesses etc andnoone can deal with her. She honestly does not see whyshe has to take them. I have tried explaining that itis like a person who is diabetic, their body should bemaking insulin in the correct porportions but it isnot, so they have to take it to give the body itsnatural

balance, it is the same for you, your bodydoesn't make some chemicals it should in the correctporportions so you take these to correct that. Doesn'tfly. I still have to watch her religiously (at 13!) tomake sure she is taking them and not lying about it.But the meds make such a big differnce for her, she isnot a zombie or anything, she is just Elissa at a goodtime, most of the time with her meds. It is like wehave the child she is inside who used to just peek outsometimes much more often! I did not believe in medsat all! I did not think it was right to "drug" mychild so the rest of us could deal with her, as aparent, I felt I should be able to find a way to dealwith her so none of that was necessary but I trustedour ped (at the time) as he NEVER used ANY medsunnecessarily and it has made a world of difference!Sorry, got off on a tanget there! God Bless! --- pjand3kids <pjand3kids@...>

wrote:> >>>>>>>>>>> Every 6 months he just breaks down.> Anyway, I could go on > forever. he is my research for my thesis, so it is> very emotional. > But I was wondering about the cutting and also he is> 'cheeking' his > medication. Crystal<<<<<<<<<<<<<> What meds is he on and how long has he been on them?> My son is almost 10 and was dx'd with Asperger's at> 6. He has only had psychotic experiences such as> this while on medication. My thoughts are that this> may be your son's problem and/or he has an> underlying issue other than just Asperger's, like> bi-polar, depression or ODD. My son is perfectly> natured, but there were times when behavior was> horrid. We've found success with diet, vits/mins> and a naturopath.> a - Peoria IL> >

> > > >

March 20, 2006

We were very resistant to meds but it has been amazing. In fact, we just changed insurance and it takes longer to get prescriptions filled so we did two reduced dosages and missed one. We could all tell the difference and (8.5) even said that he didn't want to miss his medicine again because he couldn't control himself! It was a nice reassurance that it does help and it was nice that he was able to recognize the difference. Now if I could just get him to swallow it with water! Getting him to take meds is tough. I really want to try some of the supplements but I can't get him to take them. Are there liquid supplements available somewhere?

LJ

March 22, 2006

My son is 11 and has been on meds since he was 5. I waited that long

even knowing there was a problem as early as 1 yrs old. I still have

to watch him take them due to the fact that when I clean the house

I've found several pills scattered around. Who knew he wasn't taking

them when he wasn't insite. A lessoned learned. I just make sure he

has some type of food or snak to help him swallow his pills. Heck I

haven't even mastered swallowing pills as an adult. lol

>

> We were very resistant to meds but it has been amazing. In fact, we

just

> changed insurance and it takes longer to get prescriptions filled

so we did two

> reduced dosages and missed one. We could all tell the difference

and

> (8.5) even said that he didn't want to miss his medicine again

because he

> couldn't control himself! It was a nice reassurance that it does

help and it was

> nice that he was able to recognize the difference. Now if I could

just get

> him to swallow it with water! Getting him to take meds is tough. I

really

> want to try some of the supplements but I can't get him to take

them. Are there

> liquid supplements available somewhere?

>

> LJ

>

March 22, 2006

So what is it that everyone is giving their Aspies meds. for? My son doesn't have any issues that require meds. What do all your kids have besides AS? Just curious if I'm missing something. I'm new to this, just learning, unofficial diagnosis, that myself and my 12 yo have AS. I have also never given my ADHD boys meds. or had them officially diagnosed. I don't plan on having any of us officially diagnosed unless meds are absolutely necessary. -home school mom, also Aspergers 12 Aspergers, Zachary 10 ADHD, Cystic Fibrosis and Celiac Disease, Tyler 5 ADHD and Miranda 2 Celiac Disease

Percin

Usborne Books At Home www.educationalbooks4children.com 248-982-5574

mdpercin@...

March 22, 2006

I used Coromega with my son for a fish oil

supplement. I also would crush his others up and put them in apple sauce.

He is 12 now and started swallowing pills about a year ago. We did meds

from age 8-10, he hated them, we had side effects, and went through tons of

them. His impulse control was a little better but his grades never

changed (he was already an A/B student).

He’s been off meds for 2 years and

the school has made many changes so they are now teaching him how to control his

behaviors. He is also learning the necessary organizational skills he

needs with their help too. I have asked him when things get really hard

if he is interested in trying the meds again and he absolutely refuses to ever

go back to them. It’s so funny how they are all different

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of laclaylew@...

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:10

AM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re: 12

yr old Asperger

We were very resistant to meds but it has

been amazing. In fact, we just changed insurance and it takes longer to get prescriptions

filled so we did two reduced dosages and missed one. We could all tell the

difference and (8.5) even said that he didn't want to miss his medicine

again because he couldn't control himself! It was a nice reassurance that

it does help and it was nice that he was able to recognize the

difference. Now if I could just get him to swallow it with water!

Getting him to take meds is tough. I really want to try some of the supplements

but I can't get him to take them. Are there liquid supplements available

somewhere?

LJ

March 22, 2006

LJ, I dont normally buy soda but when my son started taking meds I did buy some of the natural sodas. It helped him to swallow the pills easier. I myself had trouble swallowing pills and to this day cannot swallow pills with water unless I am dying. The bubbles seem to block out the feeling of the pill sliding down your throat. He now can take pills with water but it helped him to learn to swallow them initially. It worked for us..... in Lancaster, Calaclaylew@... wrote: We were very resistant to meds but it has been amazing. In fact, we just changed insurance and it takes longer to get prescriptions filled so we did two reduced dosages and missed one. We could all tell the

difference and (8.5) even said that he didn't want to miss his medicine again because he couldn't control himself! It was a nice reassurance that it does help and it was nice that he was able to recognize the difference. Now if I could just get him to swallow it with water! Getting him to take meds is tough. I really want to try some of the supplements but I can't get him to take them. Are there liquid supplements available somewhere? LJ

Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!

March 23, 2006

My daughter has Aspergers and ADHDH. She

takes Concerta for the ADHD and it has made a HUGH difference for her. We did

two years of behavioral stuff prior to meds and she continues to be behavior

help with the meds. The combo of meds and behavioral therapy seems to be a

good one for her. Gretchen

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of melissa percin

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006

9:56 AM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re: 12 yr old Asperger

So what is it that everyone is giving their

Aspies meds. for? My son doesn't have any issues that require meds.

What do all your kids have besides AS?

Just curious if I'm missing something. I'm new to

this, just learning, unofficial diagnosis, that myself and my 12 yo have

AS. I have also never given my ADHD boys meds. or had them officially

diagnosed. I don't plan on having any of us officially diagnosed unless meds

are absolutely necessary.

-home school mom, also Aspergers

12 Aspergers,

Zachary 10 ADHD, Cystic Fibrosis and Celiac Disease, Tyler 5 ADHD and

Miranda 2 Celiac Disease

Percin

Usborne Books

At Home

www.educationalbooks4children.com

248-982-5574

mdpercin@...

March 23, 2006

My son also has ADHD, he got that

diagnosis before the AS diagnosis and it seems they were trying to “medicate

away” some of the AS traits.

The more I learned, I got him off of meds

and got him the appropriate diagnosis. I think most Aspie’s are

medicated for focus, impulsivity and mood. We have tried both ADHD meds and

Anti-Depressants. They just don’t work for all kids but they do work

miracles for some. He is off all meds now at 12.

-Charlotte

From:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of melissa percin

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006

9:56 AM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re: 12 yr old Asperger

So what is it that everyone is giving their

Aspies meds. for? My son doesn't have any issues that require meds.

What do all your kids have besides AS?

Just curious if I'm missing something. I'm new to this,

just learning, unofficial diagnosis, that myself and my 12 yo have AS. I

have also never given my ADHD boys meds. or had them officially diagnosed. I

don't plan on having any of us officially diagnosed unless meds are absolutely

necessary.

-home school mom, also Aspergers

12 Aspergers,

Zachary 10 ADHD, Cystic Fibrosis and Celiac Disease, Tyler 5 ADHD and

Miranda 2 Celiac Disease

Percin

Usborne Books

At Home

www.educationalbooks4children.com

248-982-5574

mdpercin@...

March 23, 2006

Re:

Re: 12 yr old Asperger

So what is it that everyone is giving their

Aspies meds. for? My son doesn't have any issues that require meds.

What do all your kids have besides AS?

*******OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder,

Tourette’s, High Anxiety, Depression at 9 but doing very well now…my

son is 13

Percin

Usborne Books

At Home

www.educationalbooks4children.com

248-982-5574

mdpercin@...

March 23, 2006

,

I have never heard of natural soda! A previous diet coke fiend myself, had to give it up after severe stomach issues, I would be interested in hearing more if you can give me the info. Soda has always been restricted from my son's diet, and he (14) sneaks it whenever he can, I would love the option to offer it if I knew more about it!

Re: 12 yr old Asperger

LJ,

I dont normally buy soda but when my son started taking meds I did buy some of the natural sodas. It helped him to swallow the pills easier. I myself had trouble swallowing pills and to this day cannot swallow pills with water unless I am dying. The bubbles seem to block out the feeling of the pill sliding down your throat. He now can take pills with water but it helped him to learn to swallow them initially. It worked for us.....

in Lancaster, Calaclaylew@... wrote:

We were very resistant to meds but it has been amazing. In fact, we just changed insurance and it takes longer to get prescriptions filled so we did two reduced dosages and missed one. We could all tell the difference and (8.5) even said that he didn't want to miss his medicine again because he couldn't control himself! It was a nice reassurance that it does help and it was nice that he was able to recognize the difference. Now if I could just get him to swallow it with water! Getting him to take meds is tough. I really want to try some of the supplements but I can't get him to take them. Are there liquid supplements available somewhere?

LJ

TravelFind great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!

March 23, 2006

You can get it at any health food store.

It is high in sugar but there are no dyes or additives which I like. It is a

rare treat here.

-Charlotte

From:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Bernstein

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006

8:53 AM

To:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re: 12

yr old Asperger

,

I have never heard of natural soda! A previous diet coke

fiend myself, had to give it up after severe stomach issues, I would be

interested in hearing more if you can give me the info. Soda has always been

restricted from my son's diet, and he (14) sneaks it whenever he can, I would

love the option to offer it if I knew more about it!

Re:

12 yr old Asperger

LJ,

I dont normally buy soda but when my son started

taking meds I did buy some of the natural sodas. It helped him to swallow the

pills easier. I myself had trouble swallowing pills and to this day cannot

swallow pills with water unless I am dying. The bubbles seem to block out the

feeling of the pill sliding down your throat. He now can take pills with water

but it helped him to learn to swallow them initially. It worked for us.....

in Lancaster, Ca

laclaylew@...

wrote:

We were very resistant

to meds but it has been amazing. In fact, we just changed insurance and it

takes longer to get prescriptions filled so we did two reduced dosages and

missed one. We could all tell the difference and (8.5) even said that he

didn't want to miss his medicine again because he couldn't control

himself! It was a nice reassurance that it does help and it was nice that

he was able to recognize the difference. Now if I could just get him to

swallow it with water! Getting him to take meds is tough. I really want

to try some of the supplements but I can't get him to take them. Are there

liquid supplements available somewhere?

LJ

Travel

Find

great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!

March 23, 2006

Charlotte wrote:

> You can get it at any health food store. It is high in sugar but there

> are no dyes or additives which I like. It is a rare treat here.

>

> -Charlotte

Another alternative is sparkling flavored spring water and/or seltzer.

I had to give up sodas because of the sodium and the sugar, so I weaned

myself off them with Santa Fe Springs sparkling spring water in lime,

lemon, berry, and plain (it's not from NM, and they have a website).

Now the only thing I drink is Albertson's Seltzer in either lemon or

lime (my favorite). No sugar, no sodium, but flavor and (most important

to me) bubbles! Even Louie likes seltzer and drinks it sometimes when

he's over for dinner. Oh, and Albertson's seltzer is under a dollar

for a 2 liter bottle, so it's even cheaper than soda too.

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

--

“I don’t have the discipline to be a hippie.” -- Homer Simpson

March 23, 2006