Re: Natasa/: Calcium.. was/Valtrex opening methylation pathway?

June 6, 2006

Funny, my son has never done well with much calcium before either.

Maybe once I get this B12 thing under control I will try adding

that. Natasa, I know you are the resident calcium expert. Is that

a bad idea?

Anne

>

> I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after

some more

> time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

supplements he

> could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

sign. I

> know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

given me the

> incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

>

> _____

>

> From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't

get enough

> MB12? -HELP!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been

a

> very good intervention for us.

>

> Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got

> little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my

> son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of

> tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

>

> For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

him,

> and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

him

> one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much

> can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point

> to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help

> bring the B12 levels up?

>

> The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Anne

>

June 6, 2006

Funny, my son has never done well with much calcium before either.

Maybe once I get this B12 thing under control I will try adding

that. Natasa, I know you are the resident calcium expert. Is that

a bad idea?

Anne

>

> I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after

some more

> time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

supplements he

> could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

sign. I

> know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

given me the

> incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

>

> _____

>

> From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't

get enough

> MB12? -HELP!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been

a

> very good intervention for us.

>

> Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got

> little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my

> son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of

> tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

>

> For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

him,

> and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

him

> one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much

> can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point

> to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help

> bring the B12 levels up?

>

> The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Anne

>

June 6, 2006

Anne,

I know that this time when I add back

in Calcium it will be citrate or marine coral cal separate from D to start. I

know Natasa was hoping that the LDN would help the calcium channels but I’m

not sure how that’s going. Let us know if you are able to reintroduce

it. Good luck,

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of anneecbrynn

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:21

AM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re:

Natasa/: Calcium.. was/Valtrex opening methylation pathway?

Funny, my son has never done well with much calcium

before either.

Maybe once I get this B12 thing under control I will try adding

that. Natasa, I know you are the resident calcium expert. Is that

a bad idea?

Anne

>

> I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after

some more

> time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

supplements he

> could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

sign. I

> know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

given me the

> incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

>

> _____

>

> From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On

> Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't

get enough

> MB12? -HELP!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been

a

> very good intervention for us.

>

> Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got

> little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my

> son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of

> tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

>

> For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

him,

> and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

him

> one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much

> can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point

> to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help

> bring the B12 levels up?

>

> The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Anne

>

June 6, 2006

Anne,

I know that this time when I add back

in Calcium it will be citrate or marine coral cal separate from D to start. I

know Natasa was hoping that the LDN would help the calcium channels but I’m

not sure how that’s going. Let us know if you are able to reintroduce

it. Good luck,

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of anneecbrynn

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:21

AM

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re:

Natasa/: Calcium.. was/Valtrex opening methylation pathway?

Funny, my son has never done well with much calcium

before either.

Maybe once I get this B12 thing under control I will try adding

that. Natasa, I know you are the resident calcium expert. Is that

a bad idea?

Anne

>

> I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after

some more

> time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

supplements he

> could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

sign. I

> know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

given me the

> incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

>

> _____

>

> From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On

> Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't

get enough

> MB12? -HELP!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been

a

> very good intervention for us.

>

> Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got

> little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my

> son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of

> tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

>

> For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

him,

> and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

him

> one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much

> can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point

> to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help

> bring the B12 levels up?

>

> The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Anne

>

June 6, 2006

my grandson hasn't chewed his shirt once since I took him off calcium supplement.Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote: Anne, I know that this time when I add back in Calcium it will be citrate or marine coral cal separate from D to start. I know Natasa was

hoping that the LDN would help the calcium channels but I’m not sure how that’s going. Let us know if you are able to reintroduce it. Good luck, From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of anneecbrynnSent:

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:21 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Natasa/: Calcium.. was/Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Funny, my son has never done well with much calcium before either. Maybe once I get this B12 thing under control I will try adding that. Natasa, I know you are the resident calcium expert. Is that a bad idea?Anne>> I discussed this with my Dr. last

week. He said that maybe after some more> time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the supplements he> could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good sign. I> know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just given me the> incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks, > > > > _____ > > From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On> Behalf Of anneecbrynn> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM> mb12 valtrex > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't get enough> MB12? -HELP!> > > > Hi Everyone,> >

My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been a > very good intervention for us.> > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12 > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?> > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on him, > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving him > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still > there. If I am right that

this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help > bring the B12 levels up? > > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!> > Thanks in advance.> > Anne>

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my grandson hasn't chewed his shirt once since I took him off calcium supplement.Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote: Anne, I know that this time when I add back in Calcium it will be citrate or marine coral cal separate from D to start. I know Natasa was

hoping that the LDN would help the calcium channels but I’m not sure how that’s going. Let us know if you are able to reintroduce it. Good luck, From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of anneecbrynnSent:

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:21 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Natasa/: Calcium.. was/Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Funny, my son has never done well with much calcium before either. Maybe once I get this B12 thing under control I will try adding that. Natasa, I know you are the resident calcium expert. Is that a bad idea?Anne>> I discussed this with my Dr. last

week. He said that maybe after some more> time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the supplements he> could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good sign. I> know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just given me the> incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks, > > > > _____ > > From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On> Behalf Of anneecbrynn> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM> mb12 valtrex > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't get enough> MB12? -HELP!> > > > Hi Everyone,> >

My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been a > very good intervention for us.> > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12 > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?> > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on him, > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving him > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still > there. If I am right that

this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help > bring the B12 levels up? > > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!> > Thanks in advance.> > Anne>

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Anne, I don't know that one, we haven't tried supplementing again since

that original bad reaction. Also, that first episode made me 'revisit'

our son's lab test results, which show calcium within range, which made

me question why on earth I wanted to supplement it in the first place...

it is not neuroprotective or has any other benefits that our kids might

need extra help with, like eg magnesium (which btw actually protects

agains calcium neurotoxicity!!) so I am still puzzled as to why should

the kids with normal ranges have to supplement it at all...

Alison, are you going to give it with meals in citrate form, as per

LOD/ Owens recommendations? Were your son's levels originally low?

Good luck and keep us posted!

Maurine, glad to hear the chewing stopped!!!

Natasa

> >

> > I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after

> some more

> > time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

> supplements he

> > could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

> sign. I

> > know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

> given me the

> > incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: mb12 valtrex

> [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> > Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> > mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't

> get enough

> > MB12? -HELP!

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been

> a

> > very good intervention for us.

> >

> > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got

> > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my

> > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of

> > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

> >

> > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

> him,

> > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

> him

> > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> > there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much

> > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point

> > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help

> > bring the B12 levels up?

> >

> > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Anne

> >

>

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June 6, 2006

Anne, I don't know that one, we haven't tried supplementing again since

that original bad reaction. Also, that first episode made me 'revisit'

our son's lab test results, which show calcium within range, which made

me question why on earth I wanted to supplement it in the first place...

it is not neuroprotective or has any other benefits that our kids might

need extra help with, like eg magnesium (which btw actually protects

agains calcium neurotoxicity!!) so I am still puzzled as to why should

the kids with normal ranges have to supplement it at all...

Alison, are you going to give it with meals in citrate form, as per

LOD/ Owens recommendations? Were your son's levels originally low?

Good luck and keep us posted!

Maurine, glad to hear the chewing stopped!!!

Natasa

> >

> > I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after

> some more

> > time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

> supplements he

> > could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

> sign. I

> > know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

> given me the

> > incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: mb12 valtrex

> [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> > Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> > mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't

> get enough

> > MB12? -HELP!

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been

> a

> > very good intervention for us.

> >

> > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got

> > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my

> > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of

> > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

> >

> > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

> him,

> > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

> him

> > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> > there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much

> > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point

> > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help

> > bring the B12 levels up?

> >

> > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Anne

> >

>

> ---------------------------------

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June 6, 2006

Ya, and now I can save a bundle of money(LOL) Maurinenatasa778 <neno@...> wrote: Anne, I don't know that one, we haven't tried supplementing again sincethat original bad reaction. Also, that first episode made me 'revisit'our son's lab test results, which show calcium within range, which mademe question why on earth I wanted to supplement it in the first place...it is not neuroprotective or has any other benefits that our kids mightneed extra help with, like eg magnesium (which btw actually protectsagains calcium

neurotoxicity!!) so I am still puzzled as to why shouldthe kids with normal ranges have to supplement it at all...Alison, are you going to give it with meals in citrate form, as perLOD/ Owens recommendations? Were your son's levels originally low?Good luck and keep us posted!Maurine, glad to hear the chewing stopped!!!Natasa> >> > I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after> some more> > time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the> supplements he> > could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good> sign. I> > know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just> given me the> > incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks, > >> >> >> > _____> >> > From: mb12 valtrex > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On> > Behalf Of anneecbrynn> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM> > mb12 valtrex > > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't> get enough> > MB12? -HELP!> >> >> >> > Hi Everyone,> >> > My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it> > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been> a> > very good intervention for us.> >> > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12> > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got> > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my> > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of> > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that> > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?>

>> > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on> him,> > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving> him> > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The> > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still> > there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is> > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much> > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point> > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help> > bring the B12 levels up?> >> > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has> > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!> >> > Thanks in advance.> >> > Anne>

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June 6, 2006

Ya, and now I can save a bundle of money(LOL) Maurinenatasa778 <neno@...> wrote: Anne, I don't know that one, we haven't tried supplementing again sincethat original bad reaction. Also, that first episode made me 'revisit'our son's lab test results, which show calcium within range, which mademe question why on earth I wanted to supplement it in the first place...it is not neuroprotective or has any other benefits that our kids mightneed extra help with, like eg magnesium (which btw actually protectsagains calcium

neurotoxicity!!) so I am still puzzled as to why shouldthe kids with normal ranges have to supplement it at all...Alison, are you going to give it with meals in citrate form, as perLOD/ Owens recommendations? Were your son's levels originally low?Good luck and keep us posted!Maurine, glad to hear the chewing stopped!!!Natasa> >> > I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe after> some more> > time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the> supplements he> > could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good> sign. I> > know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just> given me the> > incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks, > >> >> >> > _____> >> > From: mb12 valtrex > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On> > Behalf Of anneecbrynn> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM> > mb12 valtrex > > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway? Can't> get enough> > MB12? -HELP!> >> >> >> > Hi Everyone,> >> > My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it> > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has been> a> > very good intervention for us.> >> > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12> > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he got> > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks, my> > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and tip of> > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that> > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?>

>> > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on> him,> > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving> him> > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The> > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still> > there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is> > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How much> > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could point> > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to help> > bring the B12 levels up?> >> > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has> > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!> >> > Thanks in advance.> >> > Anne>

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June 6, 2006

Natasa,

My son's calcium levels have always been in range too, despite the

fact that we have never supplemented him much and he has not gotten

much from his diet in a while. That gives me cause for concern.

Where it is coming from? Probably the bones.... Not good.

Anne

> > >

> > > I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe

after

> > some more

> > > time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

> > supplements he

> > > could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

> > sign. I

> > > know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

> > given me the

> > > incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: mb12 valtrex

> > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> > > Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> > > mb12 valtrex

> > > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway?

Can't

> > get enough

> > > MB12? -HELP!

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> > > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has

been

> > a

> > > very good intervention for us.

> > >

> > > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> > > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he

got

> > > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks,

my

> > > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and

tip of

> > > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> > > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

> > >

> > > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

> > him,

> > > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

> > him

> > > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> > > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> > > there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> > > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How

much

> > > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could

point

> > > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to

help

> > > bring the B12 levels up?

> > >

> > > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> > > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance.

> > >

> > > Anne

> > >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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June 6, 2006

Natasa,

My son's calcium levels have always been in range too, despite the

fact that we have never supplemented him much and he has not gotten

much from his diet in a while. That gives me cause for concern.

Where it is coming from? Probably the bones.... Not good.

Anne

> > >

> > > I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe

after

> > some more

> > > time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

> > supplements he

> > > could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a good

> > sign. I

> > > know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have just

> > given me the

> > > incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: mb12 valtrex

> > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> > > Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> > > mb12 valtrex

> > > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway?

Can't

> > get enough

> > > MB12? -HELP!

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think it

> > > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it has

been

> > a

> > > very good intervention for us.

> > >

> > > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any MB12

> > > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and he

got

> > > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few weeks,

my

> > > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and

tip of

> > > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> > > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

> > >

> > > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray on

> > him,

> > > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been giving

> > him

> > > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems. The

> > > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are still

> > > there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it is

> > > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How

much

> > > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could

point

> > > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to

help

> > > bring the B12 levels up?

> > >

> > > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it has

> > > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to do!

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance.

> > >

> > > Anne

> > >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with

> Messenger with Voice.

> >

>

> ---------------------------------

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June 6, 2006

Ditto here. My son has always been on the low end but always within

range. Again we do not have to supplement much - I give 200 mg a day

plus the 30% he gets from the milk substitutes (rice milk and

Dairyfree). On the other hand he depletes magnesium a lot faster, I

give him maybe 4-5 times that. Shows up as deficient on the EAV. By

the way Yasko says calcium is an excitotoxin so if your glutamate is

high you should avoid it, get it from natural sourcers such as

nettle and chammomile. That stopped me from worrying about it,

temporarily.

Thanks for the tip about citrate. Also I did not know that B-12

deficiency manifested in the red tipped tongue and sides, good to

know.

Gayatri

> > > >

> > > > I discussed this with my Dr. last week. He said that maybe

> after

> > > some more

> > > > time on Valtrex my son may be able to tolerate some of the

> > > supplements he

> > > > could not before like Calcium and folinic. Your post is a

good

> > > sign. I

> > > > know it's tough to keep trying everything but you may have

just

> > > given me the

> > > > incentive to go for the calcium again slooowly. Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > From: mb12 valtrex

> > > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> > > > Behalf Of anneecbrynn

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM

> > > > mb12 valtrex

> > > > Subject: Valtrex opening methylation pathway?

> Can't

> > > get enough

> > > > MB12? -HELP!

> > > >

> > > > Hi Everyone,

> > > >

> > > > My son has been on Valtrex for about 4 months. I don't think

it

> > > > will be the thing that ultimately recovers my son, but it

has

> been

> > > a

> > > > very good intervention for us.

> > > >

> > > > Here is my question: My son was never able to tolerate any

MB12

> > > > (whether by injection or spray) until fairly recently (and

he

> got

> > > > little if any benefit from oral MB12). For the last few

weeks,

> my

> > > > son has been showing signs of B12 deficiency (red sides and

> tip of

> > > > tongue. In fact, it had gotten quite bad. I am thinking that

> > > > perhaps the Valtrex helped open up a methylation pathway....?

> > > >

> > > > For the umpteenth time, I tried the MB12/Folinic nasal spray

on

> > > him,

> > > > and lo and behold, he is tolerating it fine. I have been

giving

> > > him

> > > > one spray each morning for the last week, without problems.

The

> > > > tongue has improved some, but the signs of deficiency are

still

> > > > there. If I am right that this is a B12 deficiency sign, it

is

> > > > almost like he needs lots of B12 now. Is that possible? How

> much

> > > > can I give him? Does anyone else know what these signs could

> point

> > > > to? Any other deficiency I may be missing? Any co-factors to

> help

> > > > bring the B12 levels up?

> > > >

> > > > The only thing that annoys me about the Valtrex is that it

has

> > > > changed things so much I can't figure out what the heck to

do!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > >

> > > > Anne

> > > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min

with

> > Messenger with Voice.

> > >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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> low rates.

> >

>

June 6, 2006