RE: OLE, Valtrex, adenosine... are things more than what they seem?

May 30, 2006

Natasa I just learnt from Yasko that COMT mutation kids break

dopamine more slowly than kids without the mutation. The COMT

mutation kids also are more sensitive to methyl groups and will need

forms of B-12 other than methyl, such as hydroxy or cyano. These

kids also have smaller viral and metal loads, and can tend to be bi-

polar as you have to watch their dopamine levels carefully with

supplementation, more mood swings and tantrums? Undoubtedly

depending on mutations, the OLE possibly does different things to

different kids.

Gayatri

>

> Hi Stan, and others,

>

> following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation and

> possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex therapy

being

> related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> properties ... here is another thought:

>

> someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

this a

> bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son (cannot

get

> Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

So, it

> turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

for this

> purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high blood

> pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

CALCIUM

> CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to adenosine

and

> g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment protocols,

> (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

regulate

> those channels as well).

>

> Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

some of

> our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking of

> viruses????

>

> I hope this discussion continues...

>

> Natasa

>

May 30, 2006

Natasa I just learnt from Yasko that COMT mutation kids break

dopamine more slowly than kids without the mutation. The COMT

mutation kids also are more sensitive to methyl groups and will need

forms of B-12 other than methyl, such as hydroxy or cyano. These

kids also have smaller viral and metal loads, and can tend to be bi-

polar as you have to watch their dopamine levels carefully with

supplementation, more mood swings and tantrums? Undoubtedly

depending on mutations, the OLE possibly does different things to

different kids.

Gayatri

>

> Hi Stan, and others,

>

> following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation and

> possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex therapy

being

> related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> properties ... here is another thought:

>

> someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

this a

> bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son (cannot

get

> Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

So, it

> turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

for this

> purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high blood

> pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

CALCIUM

> CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to adenosine

and

> g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment protocols,

> (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

regulate

> those channels as well).

>

> Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

some of

> our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking of

> viruses????

>

> I hope this discussion continues...

>

> Natasa

>

May 30, 2006

Natasa I just learnt from Yasko that COMT mutation kids break

dopamine more slowly than kids without the mutation. The COMT

mutation kids also are more sensitive to methyl groups and will need

forms of B-12 other than methyl, such as hydroxy or cyano. These

kids also have smaller viral and metal loads, and can tend to be bi-

polar as you have to watch their dopamine levels carefully with

supplementation, more mood swings and tantrums? Undoubtedly

depending on mutations, the OLE possibly does different things to

different kids.

Gayatri

>

> Hi Stan, and others,

>

> following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation and

> possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex therapy

being

> related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> properties ... here is another thought:

>

> someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

this a

> bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son (cannot

get

> Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

So, it

> turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

for this

> purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high blood

> pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

CALCIUM

> CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to adenosine

and

> g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment protocols,

> (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

regulate

> those channels as well).

>

> Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

some of

> our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking of

> viruses????

>

> I hope this discussion continues...

>

> Natasa

>

May 30, 2006

Gayatri,

Is the COMT++ that tends to be bi-polar or COMT-- that tends to be

bipolar?

Will restoring their methylation cycle prevent them from becoming

bi-polar in future?

If they have a lower virus and metal load, does it still mean the

virus and metals that they do have are causing the autisic symptoms?

I heard that COMT++ tend to detox faster than COMT--.

I just got my genetics back last week and I'm still learning.

My uncle is bi-polar and had a hellaious life. I would like my son

to avoid this path at all costs!

---- Original Message ----

From: gayatri_rampal@...

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: OLE, Valtrex, adenosine... are things more

than what they seem?

Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:40:40 -0000

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>

>Natasa I just learnt from Yasko that COMT mutation kids break

>dopamine more slowly than kids without the mutation. The COMT

>mutation kids also are more sensitive to methyl groups and will need

>

>forms of B-12 other than methyl, such as hydroxy or cyano. These

>kids also have smaller viral and metal loads, and can tend to be

>bi-

>polar as you have to watch their dopamine levels carefully with

>supplementation, more mood swings and tantrums? Undoubtedly

>depending on mutations, the OLE possibly does different things to

>

>different kids.

>

>Gayatri

>

>>

>> Hi Stan, and others,

>>

>> following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation

>and

>> possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex

>therapy

>being

>> related to regulation of those rather than purely its

>antiviral

>> properties ... here is another thought:

>>

>> someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has

>antihypertensive

>> properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

>

>this a

>> bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son

>(cannot

>get

>> Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

>

>So, it

>> turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

>

>for this

>> purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high

>blood

>> pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

>

>CALCIUM

>> CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to

>adenosine

>and

>> g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment

>protocols,

>> (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

>

>regulate

>> those channels as well).

>>

>> Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

>

>some of

>> our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking

>of

>> viruses????

>>

>> I hope this discussion continues...

>>

>> Natasa

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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> <tt>

May 30, 2006

Gayatri,

Is the COMT++ that tends to be bi-polar or COMT-- that tends to be

bipolar?

Will restoring their methylation cycle prevent them from becoming

bi-polar in future?

If they have a lower virus and metal load, does it still mean the

virus and metals that they do have are causing the autisic symptoms?

I heard that COMT++ tend to detox faster than COMT--.

I just got my genetics back last week and I'm still learning.

My uncle is bi-polar and had a hellaious life. I would like my son

to avoid this path at all costs!

---- Original Message ----

From: gayatri_rampal@...

mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: OLE, Valtrex, adenosine... are things more

than what they seem?

Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:40:40 -0000

><html><body>

>

>Natasa I just learnt from Yasko that COMT mutation kids break

>dopamine more slowly than kids without the mutation. The COMT

>mutation kids also are more sensitive to methyl groups and will need

>

>forms of B-12 other than methyl, such as hydroxy or cyano. These

>kids also have smaller viral and metal loads, and can tend to be

>bi-

>polar as you have to watch their dopamine levels carefully with

>supplementation, more mood swings and tantrums? Undoubtedly

>depending on mutations, the OLE possibly does different things to

>

>different kids.

>

>Gayatri

>

>>

>> Hi Stan, and others,

>>

>> following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation

>and

>> possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex

>therapy

>being

>> related to regulation of those rather than purely its

>antiviral

>> properties ... here is another thought:

>>

>> someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has

>antihypertensive

>> properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

>

>this a

>> bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son

>(cannot

>get

>> Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

>

>So, it

>> turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

>

>for this

>> purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high

>blood

>> pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

>

>CALCIUM

>> CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to

>adenosine

>and

>> g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment

>protocols,

>> (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

>

>regulate

>> those channels as well).

>>

>> Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

>

>some of

>> our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking

>of

>> viruses????

>>

>> I hope this discussion continues...

>>

>> Natasa

>>

>

>

>

>

>

> <div style= " width:500px; text-align:right; margin-bottom:1px;

>color:#909090; " >

> <tt>

May 30, 2006

Gayatri, I didn't mean to imply that OLE might be doing different things

to different individuals, rather that the results we see might be due to

mechanisms other than those that are commonly known and expected...

Natasa

> >

> > Hi Stan, and others,

> >

> > following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation and

> > possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex therapy

> being

> > related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> > properties ... here is another thought:

> >

> > someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> > properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

> this a

> > bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son (cannot

> get

> > Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

> So, it

> > turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

> for this

> > purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high blood

> > pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

> CALCIUM

> > CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to adenosine

> and

> > g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment protocols,

> > (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

> regulate

> > those channels as well).

> >

> > Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

> some of

> > our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking of

> > viruses????

> >

> > I hope this discussion continues...

> >

> > Natasa

> >

>

May 30, 2006

Gayatri, I didn't mean to imply that OLE might be doing different things

to different individuals, rather that the results we see might be due to

mechanisms other than those that are commonly known and expected...

Natasa

> >

> > Hi Stan, and others,

> >

> > following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation and

> > possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex therapy

> being

> > related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> > properties ... here is another thought:

> >

> > someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> > properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

> this a

> > bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son (cannot

> get

> > Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

> So, it

> > turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

> for this

> > purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high blood

> > pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

> CALCIUM

> > CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to adenosine

> and

> > g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment protocols,

> > (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

> regulate

> > those channels as well).

> >

> > Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

> some of

> > our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking of

> > viruses????

> >

> > I hope this discussion continues...

> >

> > Natasa

> >

>

May 30, 2006

Natasa,

Looks like purines are released by calcium channel blockers.

Glutamate is also part of this picture!

> > >

> > > Hi Stan, and others,

> > >

> > > following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation

and

> > > possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex

therapy

> > being

> > > related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> > > properties ... here is another thought:

> > >

> > > someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> > > properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

> > this a

> > > bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son

(cannot

> > get

> > > Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about

it.

> > So, it

> > > turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

> > for this

> > > purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high

blood

> > > pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

> > CALCIUM

> > > CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to

adenosine

> > and

> > > g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment

protocols,

> > > (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

> > regulate

> > > those channels as well).

> > >

> > > Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that

helps

> > some of

> > > our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely

attacking of

> > > viruses????

> > >

> > > I hope this discussion continues...

> > >

> > > Natasa

> > >

> >

>

May 30, 2006

Natasa,

Looks like purines are released by calcium channel blockers.

Glutamate is also part of this picture!

> > >

> > > Hi Stan, and others,

> > >

> > > following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation

and

> > > possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex

therapy

> > being

> > > related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> > > properties ... here is another thought:

> > >

> > > someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> > > properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

> > this a

> > > bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son

(cannot

> > get

> > > Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about

it.

> > So, it

> > > turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

> > for this

> > > purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high

blood

> > > pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

> > CALCIUM

> > > CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to

adenosine

> > and

> > > g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment

protocols,

> > > (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

> > regulate

> > > those channels as well).

> > >

> > > Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that

helps

> > some of

> > > our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely

attacking of

> > > viruses????

> > >

> > > I hope this discussion continues...

> > >

> > > Natasa

> > >

> >

>

May 30, 2006

, do you have more details or links to this?

Thanks,

Natasa

> > > >

> > > > Hi Stan, and others,

> > > >

> > > > following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation

> and

> > > > possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex

> therapy

> > > being

> > > > related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> > > > properties ... here is another thought:

> > > >

> > > > someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> > > > properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

> > > this a

> > > > bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son

> (cannot

> > > get

> > > > Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about

> it.

> > > So, it

> > > > turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

> > > for this

> > > > purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high

> blood

> > > > pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

> > > CALCIUM

> > > > CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to

> adenosine

> > > and

> > > > g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment

> protocols,

> > > > (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

> > > regulate

> > > > those channels as well).

> > > >

> > > > Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that

> helps

> > > some of

> > > > our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely

> attacking of

> > > > viruses????

> > > >

> > > > I hope this discussion continues...

> > > >

> > > > Natasa

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 30, 2006

, do you have more details or links to this?

Thanks,

Natasa

> > > >

> > > > Hi Stan, and others,

> > > >

> > > > following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation

> and

> > > > possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex

> therapy

> > > being

> > > > related to regulation of those rather than purely its antiviral

> > > > properties ... here is another thought:

> > > >

> > > > someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has antihypertensive

> > > > properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

> > > this a

> > > > bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son

> (cannot

> > > get

> > > > Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about

> it.

> > > So, it

> > > > turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

> > > for this

> > > > purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high

> blood

> > > > pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

> > > CALCIUM

> > > > CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to

> adenosine

> > > and

> > > > g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment

> protocols,

> > > > (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

> > > regulate

> > > > those channels as well).

> > > >

> > > > Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that

> helps

> > > some of

> > > > our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely

> attacking of

> > > > viruses????

> > > >

> > > > I hope this discussion continues...

> > > >

> > > > Natasa

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 30, 2006

I got my genetics last week too and am learning as well. I saw

the starter DVD yesterday and am fairly certain that the COMT++ kids

tend to be bi-polar. I think what causes autism is impaired

sulphation, impaired methylation, gut and other issues from the

mealses in the MMR (possibly compounded by a variant of the herpes

family), and finally viruses (including metals) and pathogens living

in an immune system compromised by the above. I think you have to

keep an eye on the sulphur chemistry (I think Yasko calls the whole

thing methylation) and fix methylation and detox/rid the body of

viruses, bacteria and metals. Amy Yasko believes you can do this by

working around the genetics by appropriate supplementation. I have

not read too much though, still reading and trying to learn.

Gayatri

> >>

> >> Hi Stan, and others,

> >>

> >> following the post on adenosine, adenosine receptor modulation

> >and

> >> possible benefits we are seeing in our kids during Valrex

> >therapy

> >being

> >> related to regulation of those rather than purely its

> >antiviral

> >> properties ... here is another thought:

> >>

> >> someone mentioned to me recently that OLE has

> >antihypertensive

> >> properties (protects against high blood pressure), I researched

> >

> >this a

> >> bit as this is the direction we want to go in with our son

> >(cannot

> >get

> >> Valtrex rx) and wanted to find out as much as possible about it.

> >

> >So, it

> >> turns out that OLE does have those properties, it has been used

> >

> >for this

> >> purpose for centuries, and even more interestingly, its high

> >blood

> >> pressure regulation mechanism is thought to be related to its

> >

> >CALCIUM

> >> CHANNEL BLOCKING PROPERTIES! ... which brings me back to

> >adenosine

> >and

> >> g-protein coupled receptors, to Megson's treatment

> >protocols,

> >> (possibly to LDN, as dopamine receptors are closely related and

> >

> >regulate

> >> those channels as well).

> >>

> >> Ok, could that be that here we have another antiviral that helps

> >

> >some of

> >> our autistic kids through mechanism other than purely attacking

> >of

> >> viruses????

> >>

> >> I hope this discussion continues...

> >>

> >> Natasa

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > <div style= " width:500px; text-align:right; margin-bottom:1px;

> >color:#909090; " >

> > <tt>

May 30, 2006