Re: Two questions re: protocol and antifungals

May 15, 2006

Anyone?? I just really want to do this right so that I can help my

son but I feel like I have no clue what I'm doing. Any help would

be appreciated. Thanks,

>

> Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN dr

> tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

per

> day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the mix

or

> do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> haven't seen any regression yet.

>

> Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

wasn't

> sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

natural

> yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before but

I

> really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

Boulardii

> or Candex? Any recommendations?

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

May 15, 2006

Anyone?? I just really want to do this right so that I can help my

son but I feel like I have no clue what I'm doing. Any help would

be appreciated. Thanks,

>

> Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN dr

> tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

per

> day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the mix

or

> do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> haven't seen any regression yet.

>

> Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

wasn't

> sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

natural

> yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before but

I

> really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

Boulardii

> or Candex? Any recommendations?

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

May 15, 2006

,

Yes to the natural antifungals. Both SB and Candex are good

choices, IMO. If there is no yeast for Candex to digest, then there

isn't a problem. If there is no bad yeast for the SB to push out of

the way, again, I don't think there is a problem because you will

remove the SB after you're done the AV.

As I've written before, I am a big believer in throwing all the

antivirals you can at the problem. This is what Andy Cutler

recommends and my experience as been that the man is rarely wrong.

Also, it just makes sense. The antivirals work by different

mechanisms on different viruses. We really don't know what problems

our kids are having, so this wide approach makes sense.

Hope this helps,

Anita

> >

> > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN

dr

> > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

> per

> > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the

mix

> or

> > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> > haven't seen any regression yet.

> >

> > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

> wasn't

> > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

> natural

> > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before

but

> I

> > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> Boulardii

> > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> >

>

May 15, 2006

,

Yes to the natural antifungals. Both SB and Candex are good

choices, IMO. If there is no yeast for Candex to digest, then there

isn't a problem. If there is no bad yeast for the SB to push out of

the way, again, I don't think there is a problem because you will

remove the SB after you're done the AV.

As I've written before, I am a big believer in throwing all the

antivirals you can at the problem. This is what Andy Cutler

recommends and my experience as been that the man is rarely wrong.

Also, it just makes sense. The antivirals work by different

mechanisms on different viruses. We really don't know what problems

our kids are having, so this wide approach makes sense.

Hope this helps,

Anita

> >

> > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN

dr

> > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

> per

> > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the

mix

> or

> > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> > haven't seen any regression yet.

> >

> > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

> wasn't

> > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

> natural

> > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before

but

> I

> > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> Boulardii

> > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> >

>

May 15, 2006

-What is SB?

Carol-

- In mb12 valtrex , " Anita Kugelstadt "

<mysuperteach@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Yes to the natural antifungals. Both SB and Candex are good

> choices, IMO. If there is no yeast for Candex to digest, then

there

> isn't a problem. If there is no bad yeast for the SB to push out

of

> the way, again, I don't think there is a problem because you will

> remove the SB after you're done the AV.

>

> As I've written before, I am a big believer in throwing all the

> antivirals you can at the problem. This is what Andy Cutler

> recommends and my experience as been that the man is rarely wrong.

> Also, it just makes sense. The antivirals work by different

> mechanisms on different viruses. We really don't know what

problems

> our kids are having, so this wide approach makes sense.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Anita

>

> > >

> > > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN

> dr

> > > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

> > per

> > > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the

> mix

> > or

> > > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains

but

> > > haven't seen any regression yet.

> > >

> > > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

> > wasn't

> > > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

> > natural

> > > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before

> but

> > I

> > > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> > Boulardii

> > > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help!

> > >

> >

>

May 15, 2006

-What is SB?

Carol-

- In mb12 valtrex , " Anita Kugelstadt "

<mysuperteach@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Yes to the natural antifungals. Both SB and Candex are good

> choices, IMO. If there is no yeast for Candex to digest, then

there

> isn't a problem. If there is no bad yeast for the SB to push out

of

> the way, again, I don't think there is a problem because you will

> remove the SB after you're done the AV.

>

> As I've written before, I am a big believer in throwing all the

> antivirals you can at the problem. This is what Andy Cutler

> recommends and my experience as been that the man is rarely wrong.

> Also, it just makes sense. The antivirals work by different

> mechanisms on different viruses. We really don't know what

problems

> our kids are having, so this wide approach makes sense.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Anita

>

> > >

> > > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN

> dr

> > > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

> > per

> > > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the

> mix

> > or

> > > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains

but

> > > haven't seen any regression yet.

> > >

> > > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

> > wasn't

> > > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

> > natural

> > > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before

> but

> > I

> > > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> > Boulardii

> > > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help!

> > >

> >

>

May 15, 2006

SB is S. Boulardii...a natural yeast fighter.

> > > >

> > > > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling

DAN

> > dr

> > > > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop

(3

> > > per

> > > > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to

the

> > mix

> > > or

> > > > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains

> but

> > > > haven't seen any regression yet.

> > > >

> > > > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying

she

> > > wasn't

> > > > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him

on

> > > natural

> > > > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems

before

> > but

> > > I

> > > > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> > > Boulardii

> > > > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your help!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 15, 2006

SB is S. Boulardii...a natural yeast fighter.

> > > >

> > > > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling

DAN

> > dr

> > > > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop

(3

> > > per

> > > > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to

the

> > mix

> > > or

> > > > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains

> but

> > > > haven't seen any regression yet.

> > > >

> > > > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying

she

> > > wasn't

> > > > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him

on

> > > natural

> > > > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems

before

> > but

> > > I

> > > > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> > > Boulardii

> > > > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your help!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 17, 2006

I seem to spend my days saying this, but it is quite important to be on an

antifungal with

Valtrex for our kids. The reason you need it is that in our kids (not all

conditions, but very

often in autism) we see acute fungal flares when we start antiviral therapy in a

great

majority of children.

Additionally we see more kids get better and more kids recovery when using an

antifungal

with Valtrex than with just Valtrex alone.

I guess if all the doctors knew it, I could spend my on other things. Someday.

- Stan

>

> Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN dr

> tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3 per

> day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the mix or

> do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> haven't seen any regression yet.

>

> Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she wasn't

> sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on natural

> yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before but I

> really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S. Boulardii

> or Candex? Any recommendations?

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

May 17, 2006

I seem to spend my days saying this, but it is quite important to be on an

antifungal with

Valtrex for our kids. The reason you need it is that in our kids (not all

conditions, but very

often in autism) we see acute fungal flares when we start antiviral therapy in a

great

majority of children.

Additionally we see more kids get better and more kids recovery when using an

antifungal

with Valtrex than with just Valtrex alone.

I guess if all the doctors knew it, I could spend my on other things. Someday.

- Stan

>

> Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN dr

> tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3 per

> day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the mix or

> do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> haven't seen any regression yet.

>

> Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she wasn't

> sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on natural

> yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before but I

> really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S. Boulardii

> or Candex? Any recommendations?

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

May 17, 2006

Anita, are you suggesting all antivirals at once? What are you suggesting?

- Stan

> > >

> > > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN

> dr

> > > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

> > per

> > > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the

> mix

> > or

> > > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> > > haven't seen any regression yet.

> > >

> > > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

> > wasn't

> > > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

> > natural

> > > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before

> but

> > I

> > > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> > Boulardii

> > > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help!

> > >

> >

>

May 17, 2006

Anita, are you suggesting all antivirals at once? What are you suggesting?

- Stan

> > >

> > > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling DAN

> dr

> > > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop (3

> > per

> > > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to the

> mix

> > or

> > > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains but

> > > haven't seen any regression yet.

> > >

> > > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying she

> > wasn't

> > > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him on

> > natural

> > > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems before

> but

> > I

> > > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> > Boulardii

> > > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help!

> > >

> >

>

May 17, 2006

Stan,

I'm not suggesting all antivirals at once. But I am suggesting (as

Andy Cutler has suggested, and I respect his opinion enormously)

that antivirals work by different mechanisms, and that fact can be

used to our benefit. Also, most of our kids would seem to have more

than one virus at work in them, perhaps even viruses we haven't

identified as problematic (our bodies are absolutely filled with

viruses--the vast majority cause no problems whatsoever). While

researching this, I spoke to a number of parents who had tried

either Valtrex or the other one I can never remember how to spell,

but with little result.

All these things lead me to believe that for a good number of our

kids, a multiple approach is best. And not one after another, or in

rotation--which could lead to resistance--but all at once. Starting

one at a time, of course, just adding them in. I chose the ones I

chose based on what they are supposed to do. VS to attack all

viruses through digesting them. Lauricidin because it can work on

measles, which I believe to be a problem. And OLE, because it uses

a different mechanism again, and had been used successfully by

people like Dana for a very long time. Sambucol because it seems to

do well with flu viruses, which change all the time.

Anita

-- In mb12 valtrex , " Stan Kurtz " <kurtzstan@...>

wrote:

>

> Anita, are you suggesting all antivirals at once? What are you

suggesting?

>

> - Stan

>

> > > >

> > > > Cade is currently on Valtrex (only 250 mg per day...calling

DAN

> > dr

> > > > tomorrow to see if we can up it to 750 mg per day), Virastop

(3

> > > per

> > > > day) and OLE (21 drops per day). Can I add Lauricidin to

the

> > mix

> > > or

> > > > do we have enough going on now? Btw, we've seen small gains

but

> > > > haven't seen any regression yet.

> > > >

> > > > Second question, his DAN wouldnt prescribe Diflucan saying

she

> > > wasn't

> > > > sure why he would need it. Should I go ahead and start him

on

> > > natural

> > > > yeast fighters now? We haven't had any yeast problems

before

> > but

> > > I

> > > > really don't want to start any time soon! Should I start S.

> > > Boulardii

> > > > or Candex? Any recommendations?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your help!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 17, 2006