Re: Third day on Valtrex and throwing up

May 22, 2006

Hi Kim,

This is actually the first post in the group about throwing up after Valtrex, so

it's

important to let your doctor know, especially with so little data about throwing

up here.

I'm sure at least some of our kids feel sick when they Valtrex and start kicking

up viruses

and detoxing metals, but this is the first report of actual throwing up.

You have at least one therapy (Yasko) onboard and a diet with rice that I don't

have a lot of

experience with, so you should take that into consideration as far as my

experience base.

I'm hoping that with that many therapies onboard I would emagine your doctor is

doing

the right things to monitor your child's liver, etc.

That said, if I were to guess, I would guess it's related to a surfacing virus

in the gut,

metals detox in the gut, or a fungal flair in the gut from the antiviral

therapy.

Could you expect significant results with Valtrex in 3 days? Oh yes.

If you see signs of viral illness like a runny nose, that might help you figure

it out.

Assuming your doctor says to continue, I would consider trying some activated

charcoal a

few hours after the Valtrex (for maybe the first week) and see if that helps the

nausea.

Lastly, I don't believe in giving 500 mgs at a time. I see 250mg three times a

day working

the best for a child about this age...

Maybe your doctor will consider starting at a lower dosage three times a day.

These are just my parentdotal thoughts. There is certainly something going on

if your

child is throwing up. I would work closely with your doctor to make sure there

isn't

something else going on and proceed slowly and I would bet you'll figure it out

shortly.

Please keep us (your doctor and the group) posted.

- Stan

>

> ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third day of

> Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he hurled

> twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets about

> 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a trooper.

> I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back.

>

> Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly warm to

> his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was only 98

> degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six hours before

> he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his program in

> the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the Vinitsky

> protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm, and

> Metals II).

>

> We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-12 shots

> (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to know what

> is causing what.

>

> Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea their

> first week on Valtrex?

>

> - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

>

May 22, 2006

Hi Kim,

This is actually the first post in the group about throwing up after Valtrex, so

it's

important to let your doctor know, especially with so little data about throwing

up here.

I'm sure at least some of our kids feel sick when they Valtrex and start kicking

up viruses

and detoxing metals, but this is the first report of actual throwing up.

You have at least one therapy (Yasko) onboard and a diet with rice that I don't

have a lot of

experience with, so you should take that into consideration as far as my

experience base.

I'm hoping that with that many therapies onboard I would emagine your doctor is

doing

the right things to monitor your child's liver, etc.

That said, if I were to guess, I would guess it's related to a surfacing virus

in the gut,

metals detox in the gut, or a fungal flair in the gut from the antiviral

therapy.

Could you expect significant results with Valtrex in 3 days? Oh yes.

If you see signs of viral illness like a runny nose, that might help you figure

it out.

Assuming your doctor says to continue, I would consider trying some activated

charcoal a

few hours after the Valtrex (for maybe the first week) and see if that helps the

nausea.

Lastly, I don't believe in giving 500 mgs at a time. I see 250mg three times a

day working

the best for a child about this age...

Maybe your doctor will consider starting at a lower dosage three times a day.

These are just my parentdotal thoughts. There is certainly something going on

if your

child is throwing up. I would work closely with your doctor to make sure there

isn't

something else going on and proceed slowly and I would bet you'll figure it out

shortly.

Please keep us (your doctor and the group) posted.

- Stan

>

> ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third day of

> Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he hurled

> twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets about

> 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a trooper.

> I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back.

>

> Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly warm to

> his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was only 98

> degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six hours before

> he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his program in

> the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the Vinitsky

> protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm, and

> Metals II).

>

> We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-12 shots

> (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to know what

> is causing what.

>

> Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea their

> first week on Valtrex?

>

> - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

>

May 22, 2006

I agree with Stan. Definitely talk to your doctor.

I would like to add one thing about vomitting since there has not

been much discussion about it here. During our OLE experience, my

son vomitted for a couple of days any time he ate. This was

something that he used to do on a daily basis for about 10 months

that had disappeared a few months prior to antivirals, but

antivirals brought it back temporarily. It was a texture issue for

him, and he would gag on alomost any food he was eating. It was

not " random " vomitting and it went away in only a few days, and we

have never seen it again -- leading me to believe that this was

definitely a viral issue for him.

It sounds like your issue may be related to something else.

Good Luck,

> >

> > ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third

day of

> > Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he

hurled

> > twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets

about

> > 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a

trooper.

> > I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's

back.

> >

> > Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly warm

to

> > his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was

only 98

> > degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six hours

before

> > he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his

program in

> > the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the

Vinitsky

> > protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm,

and

> > Metals II).

> >

> > We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-12

shots

> > (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to

know what

> > is causing what.

> >

> > Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea

their

> > first week on Valtrex?

> >

> > - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

> >

>

May 22, 2006

I agree with Stan. Definitely talk to your doctor.

I would like to add one thing about vomitting since there has not

been much discussion about it here. During our OLE experience, my

son vomitted for a couple of days any time he ate. This was

something that he used to do on a daily basis for about 10 months

that had disappeared a few months prior to antivirals, but

antivirals brought it back temporarily. It was a texture issue for

him, and he would gag on alomost any food he was eating. It was

not " random " vomitting and it went away in only a few days, and we

have never seen it again -- leading me to believe that this was

definitely a viral issue for him.

It sounds like your issue may be related to something else.

Good Luck,

> >

> > ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third

day of

> > Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he

hurled

> > twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets

about

> > 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a

trooper.

> > I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's

back.

> >

> > Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly warm

to

> > his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was

only 98

> > degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six hours

before

> > he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his

program in

> > the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the

Vinitsky

> > protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm,

and

> > Metals II).

> >

> > We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-12

shots

> > (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to

know what

> > is causing what.

> >

> > Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea

their

> > first week on Valtrex?

> >

> > - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

> >

>

May 22, 2006

My son was about to throw up several times right off the bat but didn't.

But I remember another post a couple of months ago where someone's child

threw up after starting valtrex and the next day was completely potty

trained. The funny thing is that this is one of the things valtrex is

really helping with. My son finally is asking to go consistently and also

just going by himself. He's been in undies fine since 3years but we always

had to just take him every few hours now he's finally getting it and he's 6.

-

Re: Third day on Valtrex and throwing up

I agree with Stan. Definitely talk to your doctor.

I would like to add one thing about vomitting since there has not

been much discussion about it here. During our OLE experience, my

son vomitted for a couple of days any time he ate. This was

something that he used to do on a daily basis for about 10 months

that had disappeared a few months prior to antivirals, but

antivirals brought it back temporarily. It was a texture issue for

him, and he would gag on alomost any food he was eating. It was

not " random " vomitting and it went away in only a few days, and we

have never seen it again -- leading me to believe that this was

definitely a viral issue for him.

It sounds like your issue may be related to something else.

Good Luck,

> >

> > ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third

day of

> > Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he

hurled

> > twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets

about

> > 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a

trooper.

> > I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's

back.

> >

> > Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly warm

to

> > his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was

only 98

> > degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six hours

before

> > he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his

program in

> > the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the

Vinitsky

> > protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm,

and

> > Metals II).

> >

> > We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-12

shots

> > (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to

know what

> > is causing what.

> >

> > Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea

their

> > first week on Valtrex?

> >

> > - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

> >

>

May 22, 2006

My son was about to throw up several times right off the bat but didn't.

But I remember another post a couple of months ago where someone's child

threw up after starting valtrex and the next day was completely potty

trained. The funny thing is that this is one of the things valtrex is

really helping with. My son finally is asking to go consistently and also

just going by himself. He's been in undies fine since 3years but we always

had to just take him every few hours now he's finally getting it and he's 6.

-

Re: Third day on Valtrex and throwing up

I agree with Stan. Definitely talk to your doctor.

I would like to add one thing about vomitting since there has not

been much discussion about it here. During our OLE experience, my

son vomitted for a couple of days any time he ate. This was

something that he used to do on a daily basis for about 10 months

that had disappeared a few months prior to antivirals, but

antivirals brought it back temporarily. It was a texture issue for

him, and he would gag on alomost any food he was eating. It was

not " random " vomitting and it went away in only a few days, and we

have never seen it again -- leading me to believe that this was

definitely a viral issue for him.

It sounds like your issue may be related to something else.

Good Luck,

> >

> > ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third

day of

> > Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he

hurled

> > twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets

about

> > 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a

trooper.

> > I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's

back.

> >

> > Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly warm

to

> > his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was

only 98

> > degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six hours

before

> > he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his

program in

> > the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the

Vinitsky

> > protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm,

and

> > Metals II).

> >

> > We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-12

shots

> > (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to

know what

> > is causing what.

> >

> > Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea

their

> > first week on Valtrex?

> >

> > - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

> >

>

May 22, 2006

I would talk to the doc and reduce the dose and maybe stop chelating

for a while. Might be hard for the body to deal with both.

Gayatri

> > >

> > > ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third

> day of

> > > Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he

> hurled

> > > twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets

> about

> > > 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a

> trooper.

> > > I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's

> back.

> > >

> > > Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly

warm

> to

> > > his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was

> only 98

> > > degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six

hours

> before

> > > he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his

> program in

> > > the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the

> Vinitsky

> > > protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm,

> and

> > > Metals II).

> > >

> > > We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-

12

> shots

> > > (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to

> know what

> > > is causing what.

> > >

> > > Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea

> their

> > > first week on Valtrex?

> > >

> > > - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

> > >

> >

>

May 22, 2006

I would talk to the doc and reduce the dose and maybe stop chelating

for a while. Might be hard for the body to deal with both.

Gayatri

> > >

> > > ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third

> day of

> > > Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he

> hurled

> > > twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets

> about

> > > 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a

> trooper.

> > > I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's

> back.

> > >

> > > Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly

warm

> to

> > > his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was

> only 98

> > > degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six

hours

> before

> > > he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his

> program in

> > > the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the

> Vinitsky

> > > protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm,

> and

> > > Metals II).

> > >

> > > We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-

12

> shots

> > > (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to

> know what

> > > is causing what.

> > >

> > > Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea

> their

> > > first week on Valtrex?

> > >

> > > - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

> > >

> >

>

May 23, 2006

>

> ny, ASD, 4, isn't a thrower-uper, but today, on his third day

of

> Valtrex (500mg in the AM and 500mg in the late afternoon), he

hurled

> twice. Does that sound like too high a dose? He already gets

about

> 18 supplements in his rice milk bottle and takes them like a

trooper.

> I'm hoping the Valtrex isn't the straw that breaks the camel's

back.

>

> Or, could a virus be " surfacing " already? He felt slightly warm

to

> his daddy just before and after he threw up, but his temp was only

98

> degrees. He had the crushed-up Valtrex tablet a good six hours

before

> he threw up, and there have been a few other changes to his

program in

> the past few weeks, like increasing lithium, starting the Vinitsky

> protocol, and beginning Yasko's RNAs (Nerve Coat, Nerve Calm, and

> Metals II).

>

> We chelate with TD-DMPS every other day (for 13 mos.), do mB-12

shots

> (for 18 mos.), and most of the DAN! stuff. It is so hard to know

what

> is causing what.

>

> Has anyone else had a kid with a cast iron stomach have nausea

their

> first week on Valtrex?

>

> - Kim Bowman, Phoenix

we actually had 2 vomits in week 2 but my guy has in the past had

reflux so we are not sure what brought this about. i said to the

doctor if he has another day of it, i will be concerned but he

didnt. we are now on week 5 without another vomit but i was thinking

it could also have been a flu bug too because IMO as the virals are

being addressed the immunity is normalizing therefore abilities to

catch these things increase. my son has never caught anything couple

colds that are over in a couple days. so if it was truely a flu bug

i feel it was a good thing he caught it.

>

May 23, 2006