Re: About Pool Water/saline vs. chlorine

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

There's a lot of talk on the board about saline systems being better

than chlorine. But, it is my understanding that a saline system

creates its own chlorine, albeit a " natural " chlorine. Why is this any

better? Has anyone looked into a UV system?

Suzanne

Woodland Hills

On May 18, 2006, at 6:35 AM, mb12 valtrex wrote:

> Message 10

> From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> Date: Wed May 17, 2006 10:23pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: About Pool Water

>

> If my child responded like this, I wouldn't reintroduce them to

> chlorine. I would seriously

> look at getting a saline pool system.

>

> - Stan

>

>

>>>

>>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be

>> interesting if you try some

>>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps

>> at all (since it sounds like

>>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.

>>>

>>> - Stan

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

There's a lot of talk on the board about saline systems being better

than chlorine. But, it is my understanding that a saline system

creates its own chlorine, albeit a " natural " chlorine. Why is this any

better? Has anyone looked into a UV system?

Suzanne

Woodland Hills

On May 18, 2006, at 6:35 AM, mb12 valtrex wrote:

> Message 10

> From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> Date: Wed May 17, 2006 10:23pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: About Pool Water

>

> If my child responded like this, I wouldn't reintroduce them to

> chlorine. I would seriously

> look at getting a saline pool system.

>

> - Stan

>

>

>>>

>>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be

>> interesting if you try some

>>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps

>> at all (since it sounds like

>>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.

>>>

>>> - Stan

[Guest guest]

Hello Suzanne,

Well, we are actually saline systems.

I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline, but I'm

open to hear

about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not for pools.

What 'cha

got?

> >>>

> >>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be

> >> interesting if you try some

> >>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps

> >> at all (since it sounds like

> >>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.

> >>>

> >>> - Stan

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Suzanne,

Well, we are actually saline systems.

I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline, but I'm

open to hear

about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not for pools.

What 'cha

got?

> >>>

> >>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be

> >> interesting if you try some

> >>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps

> >> at all (since it sounds like

> >>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.

> >>>

> >>> - Stan

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Stan- sorry to be a pain but can you please repost your pool pdf doc?

I lost it somehow...sorry.Much appreciated, thanks,Hope

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Stan Kurtz" <kurtzstan@...> Hello Suzanne,Well, we are actually saline systems. I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline, but I'm open to hear about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not for pools. What 'cha got?> >>>> >>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be> >> interesting if you try some> >>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps> >> at all (since it sounds like> >>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.> >>>> >>> - Stan>

[Guest guest]

Hey Stan- sorry to be a pain but can you please repost your pool pdf doc?

I lost it somehow...sorry.Much appreciated, thanks,Hope

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Stan Kurtz" <kurtzstan@...> Hello Suzanne,Well, we are actually saline systems. I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline, but I'm open to hear about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not for pools. What 'cha got?> >>>> >>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be> >> interesting if you try some> >>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps> >> at all (since it sounds like> >>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.> >>>> >>> - Stan>

[Guest guest]

Saline is salt water, isn't it?

Anyway, I don't much about UV systems. We are about to spend a chunk

of money on a whole house water filtration system so my husband

probably won't go for converting the pool water this year. This is all

I have on UV pool disninfection, but I got it from some company's

website. Sounds like it has to be used in conjunction with some

chemicals:

UV Water Purifiers for Private Swimming Pools and Spas

UV water disinfection of private pools and spas is a chemical-free

method of killing microorganisms by shortwave ultraviolet light. To

ensure a safe and pleasant pool environment without using strong

disinfection chemicals, ultraviolet water purification destroys organic

pollutants instantly as the water passes through the treatment chamber.

The ultraviolet sterilization systems for private pools are

particularly suitable for users who are sensitive to the usual swimming

pool disinfectants, heavy metals from ionic purifiers or allergic to

chlorine.

UV water purification advantages:

* More pleasant bathing in a very low chemical environment

* Dramatically reduced chemical dosing (50% or more) and chemical

costs

* Possibility of zero-chlorine bathing, using peroxide disinfectants

* Unrivalled protection against contamination in swimming pool

filter media

* Safety-net protection against loss of chemical dosing - real life

tests with no dosing for a month proved the pool water still stayed

fresh

* Instantaneous water disinfection at every pass

* Very low power consumption

* Economical swimming pool treatment – low purchase and running

costs

Contact American Air & Water for details of how we can help you to

simplify pool maintenance, minimize chemical usage and save your money.

--Suzanne

On May 18, 2006, at 2:48 PM, mb12 valtrex wrote:

> From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> Date: Thu May 18, 2006 2:04pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: About Pool Water/saline vs. chlorine

>

> Hello Suzanne,

>

> Well, we are actually saline systems.

>

> I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline,

> but I'm open to hear

> about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not

> for pools. What 'cha

> got?

[Guest guest]

Saline is salt water, isn't it?

Anyway, I don't much about UV systems. We are about to spend a chunk

of money on a whole house water filtration system so my husband

probably won't go for converting the pool water this year. This is all

I have on UV pool disninfection, but I got it from some company's

website. Sounds like it has to be used in conjunction with some

chemicals:

UV Water Purifiers for Private Swimming Pools and Spas

UV water disinfection of private pools and spas is a chemical-free

method of killing microorganisms by shortwave ultraviolet light. To

ensure a safe and pleasant pool environment without using strong

disinfection chemicals, ultraviolet water purification destroys organic

pollutants instantly as the water passes through the treatment chamber.

The ultraviolet sterilization systems for private pools are

particularly suitable for users who are sensitive to the usual swimming

pool disinfectants, heavy metals from ionic purifiers or allergic to

chlorine.

UV water purification advantages:

* More pleasant bathing in a very low chemical environment

* Dramatically reduced chemical dosing (50% or more) and chemical

costs

* Possibility of zero-chlorine bathing, using peroxide disinfectants

* Unrivalled protection against contamination in swimming pool

filter media

* Safety-net protection against loss of chemical dosing - real life

tests with no dosing for a month proved the pool water still stayed

fresh

* Instantaneous water disinfection at every pass

* Very low power consumption

* Economical swimming pool treatment – low purchase and running

costs

Contact American Air & Water for details of how we can help you to

simplify pool maintenance, minimize chemical usage and save your money.

--Suzanne

On May 18, 2006, at 2:48 PM, mb12 valtrex wrote:

> From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> Date: Thu May 18, 2006 2:04pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: About Pool Water/saline vs. chlorine

>

> Hello Suzanne,

>

> Well, we are actually saline systems.

>

> I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline,

> but I'm open to hear

> about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not

> for pools. What 'cha

> got?

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

Correct.

Typically the whole house ionization systems use UV as the last step... but the

water

already has salt to replace the ionized metals that are charged into ions and

then

" bumped " out by the salt... then it gets UV lit to kill any bacteria and then

sent through the

house and the salt is charcoal filtered at the showers (optional) or reverse

osmosis filtered

at the kitchen sink.

I've never seen UV used in a pool setting. My conceptual concern is if the

process of UVing

the water in the pool filter is enough to maintain clean water in the entire

pool at all times.

At least with chlorine or saline you have a sustained amount of the agent in

every drop of

the pool at the same time.

I'll keep my mind open though. I would need some people with UV pools to tell

me that it

works for them. I do have friends with saline who swear by it.

- Stan

>

> > From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> > Date: Thu May 18, 2006 2:04pm(PDT)

> > Subject: Re: About Pool Water/saline vs. chlorine

> >

> > Hello Suzanne,

> >

> > Well, we are actually saline systems.

> >

> > I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline,

> > but I'm open to hear

> > about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not

> > for pools. What 'cha

> > got?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

Correct.

Typically the whole house ionization systems use UV as the last step... but the

water

already has salt to replace the ionized metals that are charged into ions and

then

" bumped " out by the salt... then it gets UV lit to kill any bacteria and then

sent through the

house and the salt is charcoal filtered at the showers (optional) or reverse

osmosis filtered

at the kitchen sink.

I've never seen UV used in a pool setting. My conceptual concern is if the

process of UVing

the water in the pool filter is enough to maintain clean water in the entire

pool at all times.

At least with chlorine or saline you have a sustained amount of the agent in

every drop of

the pool at the same time.

I'll keep my mind open though. I would need some people with UV pools to tell

me that it

works for them. I do have friends with saline who swear by it.

- Stan

>

> > From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> > Date: Thu May 18, 2006 2:04pm(PDT)

> > Subject: Re: About Pool Water/saline vs. chlorine

> >

> > Hello Suzanne,

> >

> > Well, we are actually saline systems.

> >

> > I can't find anything about asthma and saline or toxicity and saline,

> > but I'm open to hear

> > about UV. I've read about it regarding whole house filters but not

> > for pools. What 'cha

> > got?

>

[Guest guest]

It's called, " just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water "

located in the

FILES section of the group.

mb12 valtrex/files/

> > >>>

> > >>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be

> > >> interesting if you try some

> > >>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps

> > >> at all (since it sounds like

> > >>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.

> > >>>

> > >>> - Stan

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's called, " just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water "

located in the

FILES section of the group.

mb12 valtrex/files/

> > >>>

> > >>> I was wondering if anyone read that document. It will be

> > >> interesting if you try some

> > >>> taurine prior and the magnesium sulfate cream after if that helps

> > >> at all (since it sounds like

> > >>> you will be getting into a chlorine pool). Let me know.

> > >>>

> > >>> - Stan

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but I want to understand why natural

chlorine (aka saline or salt-water pool systems) is better than

manufactured chlorine (standard pool water). Does the use of a saline

system mean you can reduce or eliminate other chemicals typically used

to maintain a pool? Do sensitive kids not react to natural chlorine in

the same way they would manufactured chlorine?

Suzanne

On May 18, 2006, at 5:16 PM, mb12 valtrex wrote:

> From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> Date: Thu May 18, 2006 4:24pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: About Pool Water/saline vs. chlorine

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> Correct.

>

> Typically the whole house ionization systems use UV as the last

> step... but the water

> already has salt to replace the ionized metals that are charged into

> ions and then

> " bumped " out by the salt... then it gets UV lit to kill any bacteria

> and then sent through the

> house and the salt is charcoal filtered at the showers (optional) or

> reverse osmosis filtered

> at the kitchen sink.

>

> I've never seen UV used in a pool setting. My conceptual concern is

> if the process of UVing

> the water in the pool filter is enough to maintain clean water in the

> entire pool at all times.

> At least with chlorine or saline you have a sustained amount of the

> agent in every drop of

> the pool at the same time.

>

> I'll keep my mind open though. I would need some people with UV pools

> to tell me that it

> works for them. I do have friends with saline who swear by it.

>

> - Stan

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but I want to understand why natural

chlorine (aka saline or salt-water pool systems) is better than

manufactured chlorine (standard pool water). Does the use of a saline

system mean you can reduce or eliminate other chemicals typically used

to maintain a pool? Do sensitive kids not react to natural chlorine in

the same way they would manufactured chlorine?

Suzanne

On May 18, 2006, at 5:16 PM, mb12 valtrex wrote:

> From: " Stan Kurtz " kurtzstan@...

> Date: Thu May 18, 2006 4:24pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: About Pool Water/saline vs. chlorine

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> Correct.

>

> Typically the whole house ionization systems use UV as the last

> step... but the water

> already has salt to replace the ionized metals that are charged into

> ions and then

> " bumped " out by the salt... then it gets UV lit to kill any bacteria

> and then sent through the

> house and the salt is charcoal filtered at the showers (optional) or

> reverse osmosis filtered

> at the kitchen sink.

>

> I've never seen UV used in a pool setting. My conceptual concern is

> if the process of UVing

> the water in the pool filter is enough to maintain clean water in the

> entire pool at all times.

> At least with chlorine or saline you have a sustained amount of the

> agent in every drop of

> the pool at the same time.

>

> I'll keep my mind open though. I would need some people with UV pools

> to tell me that it

> works for them. I do have friends with saline who swear by it.

>

> - Stan