Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Tylenol is safe as long as you take it as directed , anything over daily amount could be harmful to your liver . I use Soma for the muscle aches and pain , but it is a prescribed medication best pain relief I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what the bestchoice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potentialdammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on that oftencause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take somethingto lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my self wouldbe great.Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 YEAH<< my computer is working,, hahaha well I just wanted to say that according to the hep specialist RN that gave the class at my docs office,, she said one can safely take up to 2000 mg of tylenol ( for those without liver disease, they can safely take up to 4000 mg) and IN ADDITION, you can take up to 1600 mg of advil.. it wasnt enough for me and even now 3 years post tx,, the inf caused fibro and I take morphine daily just to be able to get out of bed,, I get no high from it,, only the ability to get out of bed and not cry all day from the body aches and pains...charolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: I've read and been told that tylenol (acetaminophen) is fine as longas you don't over do it. Many patients on TX are taking Tylenol PM (ithas benadryl in it) to help them sleep through the side effects of thepeginterferon & ribavirin.Some require bigger guns for sleep and pain- depending on the degreeof pain or insomnia. I'm reading that some are on fentanyl (syntheticnarcotic) patches, hydrocodone and even methadone. All are toxic to the liver, but in controlled doses, necessity and aplan to cease when treatment is over is the protocol. At least fromwhat I'm reading around different forums.Ask your doctor about it.>> I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what the best> choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential> dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on that often> cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take something> to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my self would> be great.> Thanks !>Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 YEAH<< my computer is working,, hahaha well I just wanted to say that according to the hep specialist RN that gave the class at my docs office,, she said one can safely take up to 2000 mg of tylenol ( for those without liver disease, they can safely take up to 4000 mg) and IN ADDITION, you can take up to 1600 mg of advil.. it wasnt enough for me and even now 3 years post tx,, the inf caused fibro and I take morphine daily just to be able to get out of bed,, I get no high from it,, only the ability to get out of bed and not cry all day from the body aches and pains...charolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: I've read and been told that tylenol (acetaminophen) is fine as longas you don't over do it. Many patients on TX are taking Tylenol PM (ithas benadryl in it) to help them sleep through the side effects of thepeginterferon & ribavirin.Some require bigger guns for sleep and pain- depending on the degreeof pain or insomnia. I'm reading that some are on fentanyl (syntheticnarcotic) patches, hydrocodone and even methadone. All are toxic to the liver, but in controlled doses, necessity and aplan to cease when treatment is over is the protocol. At least fromwhat I'm reading around different forums.Ask your doctor about it.>> I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what the best> choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential> dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on that often> cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take something> to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my self would> be great.> Thanks !>Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Your experience is coinciding with others that have post-tx effects, like the fibromyalgia, arthritis, etc. My gastro's nurse told me that if I was suffering from RA pre-tx, that during tx, those symptoms would get worse. Now that's something to look forward to, NOT! > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what the best > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " going on that often > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take something > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my self would > > be great. > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- Hepatitis C/ > > Happy Posting > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I was diagnosed with RA over 30yr's ago , and when I was on tx I didn't have any flare ups at all so I don't think that necessarily true Re: best pain relief Your experience is coinciding with others that have post-tx effects,like the fibromyalgia, arthritis, etc.My gastro's nurse told me that if I was suffering from RA pre-tx, thatduring tx, those symptoms would get worse. Now that's something tolook forward to, NOT!> >> > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what the best> > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential> > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on that often> > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take something> > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my self would> > be great.> > Thanks !> >> > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope youhave found the support you need with us. > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group,just click the link-- Hepatitis C/> > Happy Posting > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Considering that no two people react exactly the same on TX, I'd say you were very fortunate. And I'm glad you didn't have flares with your RA. I'm so used to having joint pain that I probably won't know the difference when I start tx. My knees are really giving me hell right now. > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what the best > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " going on that often > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take something > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my self would > > > be great. > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you > have found the support you need with us. > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, > just click the link-- Hepatitis C/ > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I had more flare ups after and before than while on treatment . What are you taking for your RA Re: best pain relief Considering that no two people react exactly the same on TX, I'd sayyou were very fortunate. And I'm glad you didn't have flares with yourRA. I'm so used to having joint pain that I probably won't know thedifference when I start tx. My knees are really giving me hell right now.> > >> > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know whatthe best> > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential> > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going onthat often> > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly takesomething> > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting myself would> > > be great.> > > Thanks !> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you> have found the support you need with us. > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group,> just click the link--Hepatitis C/> > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'm on nothing at present. I do have tramadol for pain if I need it. Ibuprofen does nothing for me and I'm an ex-addict, so I have to stay away from narcotics until it's unbearable. My Dr. isn't a pain nazi, thank God. I've learned to live with a lot of aches and pains. Makes for one bitchy human, lemme tell ya. > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what > the best > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " going on > that often > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take > something > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > self would > > > > be great. > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, > > just click the link-- > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 LOL I completely understand the bitchy part . I don't take narcotics unless it's absolutely necessary , my fear is becoming addicted to them . So I try to stay clear of em . But for RA there are medications out there that are not for pain relief but for preventing flare ups . Re: best pain relief I'm on nothing at present. I do have tramadol for pain if I need it.Ibuprofen does nothing for me and I'm an ex-addict, so I have to stayaway from narcotics until it's unbearable. My Dr. isn't a pain nazi,thank God.I've learned to live with a lot of aches and pains. Makes for onebitchy human, lemme tell ya.> > > >> > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what> the best> > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount ofpotential> > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on> that often> > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take> something> > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my> self would> > > > be great.> > > > Thanks !> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. Wehope you> > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access toour group,> > just click the link--> Hepatitis C/> > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 It can take up to 6 months before all the side effects of the treatment meds go away . But usually the emotional side are gone withine a month or two . Re: Re: best pain relief That's funny that you say that about aches and pains because I was always a emotionally 'normal' person and since I have taken the hep c meds and since I have been off of them for a couple of weeks I can be quite a moody person. Does anyone know if this is normal or if I will be 'myself' again? I was naive in thinking that when I was done with this stuff I would feel normal, because I feel anything but! It's been an emotional roller coaster. I almost think I am bipolar. Happy one moment and then sad the next. Can the meds cause this because I never felt like this before? Thanks, Jenncharolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: I'm on nothing at present. I do have tramadol for pain if I need it.Ibuprofen does nothing for me and I'm an ex-addict, so I have to stayaway from narcotics until it's unbearable. My Dr. isn't a pain nazi,thank God.I've learned to live with a lot of aches and pains. Makes for onebitchy human, lemme tell ya.> > > >> > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what> the best> > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount ofpotential> > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on> that often> > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take> something> > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my> self would> > > > be great.> > > > Thanks !> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. Wehope you> > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access toour group,> > just click the link--> Hepatitis C/> > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 It can take up to 6 months before all the side effects of the treatment meds go away . But usually the emotional side are gone withine a month or two . Re: Re: best pain relief That's funny that you say that about aches and pains because I was always a emotionally 'normal' person and since I have taken the hep c meds and since I have been off of them for a couple of weeks I can be quite a moody person. Does anyone know if this is normal or if I will be 'myself' again? I was naive in thinking that when I was done with this stuff I would feel normal, because I feel anything but! It's been an emotional roller coaster. I almost think I am bipolar. Happy one moment and then sad the next. Can the meds cause this because I never felt like this before? Thanks, Jenncharolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: I'm on nothing at present. I do have tramadol for pain if I need it.Ibuprofen does nothing for me and I'm an ex-addict, so I have to stayaway from narcotics until it's unbearable. My Dr. isn't a pain nazi,thank God.I've learned to live with a lot of aches and pains. Makes for onebitchy human, lemme tell ya.> > > >> > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what> the best> > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount ofpotential> > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on> that often> > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take> something> > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my> self would> > > > be great.> > > > Thanks !> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. Wehope you> > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access toour group,> > just click the link--> Hepatitis C/> > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 emotionally " normal " ? what's that? LOLOL!!! (I know what you mean, really!) did you take anti-depressants during treatment? you might want to look into that even post tx. I'm reading on other forums that there are long term effects from tx. you probably aren't bi-polar, but peginterferon will depress you and ribavirin does a number to your head....... I'm on 2 different anti-depressants now, in preparation for treatment. having a history of depression I know if I go into treatment depressed, I won't have as good of chance in clearing. , go see your doctor and ask about mood elevators or antidepressants. it's not wrong to seek help, you've been dealing with a very serious illness and taken some heavy duty drugs, girl. > > > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what > > the best > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of > potential > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " going on > > that often > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take > > something > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > > self would > > > > > be great. > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We > hope you > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to > our group, > > > just click the link-- > > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 narcotic addictions are ugly. it's not a place one ever wants to go. my Dr. and I have discussed what could happen when I start tx and possible pain management. we also agree to worry about it when if we get there. I'm fortunate to have a 20+ year relationship with my Dr. so our conversations are quite relaxed and informal. He's also a client of mine, that's why we are relaxed with one another. at this point, I don't want to take any more drugs- I'm attempting to prepare for treatment, coming out of a major depression that included high anxiety. my shrink wasn't taking patients, but because he's a personal friend of ours, he agreed to take me on to get me thru treatment. I'm blessed in many, many ways. After all, how many patients can call their shrink on a Saturday, on their cell and bitch about their drugs? ha! I dunno, I'm just used to the joint pains, the burning sensations in tendons and hell, I'm just used to pain. Maybe pain is my friend? LOL > > > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what > > the best > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of > potential > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " going on > > that often > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take > > something > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > > self would > > > > > be great. > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We > hope you > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to > our group, > > > just click the link-- > > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 narcotic addictions are ugly. it's not a place one ever wants to go. my Dr. and I have discussed what could happen when I start tx and possible pain management. we also agree to worry about it when if we get there. I'm fortunate to have a 20+ year relationship with my Dr. so our conversations are quite relaxed and informal. He's also a client of mine, that's why we are relaxed with one another. at this point, I don't want to take any more drugs- I'm attempting to prepare for treatment, coming out of a major depression that included high anxiety. my shrink wasn't taking patients, but because he's a personal friend of ours, he agreed to take me on to get me thru treatment. I'm blessed in many, many ways. After all, how many patients can call their shrink on a Saturday, on their cell and bitch about their drugs? ha! I dunno, I'm just used to the joint pains, the burning sensations in tendons and hell, I'm just used to pain. Maybe pain is my friend? LOL > > > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what > > the best > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of > potential > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " going on > > that often > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take > > something > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > > self would > > > > > be great. > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We > hope you > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to > our group, > > > just click the link-- > > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 when I say normal you know what I mean? Doesn't everyone wake up in the morning, climb on their roof and howl at the butterflies? lol :-) I think I will take your advice because it has taken me for an emotional ride. I am pretty much a happy person but I feel not quite there yet. I think mood elevators would help. I felt on the hep c treatment like I had a cloud or layer over me. Since I ended treatment, it's nice to feel but I am not really used to it. It's like I feel everything all at once. Thanks for the advice and support, I think it wouldn't hurt to take something. I am a little worried about the side effects and finding the right anti-depressants, because a long time ago that was an issue for me? Is there one you take that works well, that maybe I could suggest to my doctor? thanks, your 'normal' (not) friend Jenn :-)charolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: emotionally "normal"? what's that? LOLOL!!! (I know what you mean, really!) did you take anti-depressants during treatment? you might want to look into that even post tx. I'm reading on other forums that there are long term effects from tx. you probably aren't bi-polar, but peginterferon will depress you and ribavirin does a number to your head....... I'm on 2 different anti-depressants now, in preparation for treatment. having a history of depression I know if I go into treatment depressed, I won't have as good of chance in clearing. , go see your doctor and ask about mood elevators or antidepressants. it's not wrong to seek help, you've been dealing with a very serious illness and taken some heavy duty drugs, girl. > > > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what > > the best > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of > potential > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on > > that often > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take > > something > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > > self would > > > > > be great. > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We > hope you > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to > our group, > > > just click the link-- > > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 , I can't suggest what anti-depressants or mood elevators to take, that's something your doctor should decide upon. Most doctors will give you samples to try till you find one that is agreeable. It might take a combination of different ones taken at different times. Everyone tolerates these drugs differently, for example: common dosage for wellbutrin is 300mg a day (150mgx2). I can't handle that much, it wires me and makes me very uncomfortable. I had to cut back to 100mg just in the morning and did that for about a month, then bumped myself up (with my PNP and shrink's blessing). I take one of the older tricylic antidepressants at night along with an anti-anxiety med to " put the lights out " . And I haven't even started TX........... Just make an appt. and discuss your feelings with your doctor- that's the best road to take at this point. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone > know what > > > the best > > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of > > potential > > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " > going on > > > that often > > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could > occassionaly take > > > something > > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > > > self would > > > > > > be great. > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We > > hope you > > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to > > our group, > > > > just click the link-- > > > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Yes Char,, narcotic addictions are ugly. HOWEVER,,, so is pain,, and what pain does to our quality of life is enormous too! I now take 120 mg of morphine daily just to be able to get out of bed. I KNOW that I am now dependent on the morphine, however, at least I have a life now. I can get out of bed and do what I need to do. I will not feel guilty about this, nor will I ever hesitate to ask my doc to increase my dose should I need it. I started with norco 7/325 for a year, then we went up to 10/325 but eventually switched to the morphine because after 3 years of taking pain meds that had tylenol in it, even in small doses, we felt that it would have a bad effect on my liver. Since swithing to the morphine, my alt/ast have dropped 10 numbers each,, now are back into the 20's instead of the 30's. I dont know if that is significant or not but I DO know that without the morphine, or some pain control, I was in bed crying most of the time because I hurt so bad. My joints plus all my soft tisses are inflammed, I have an elevated sed rate and elevated RA too.. but now that I think of it,, even those have come down into the high 30's from being above 50 each. I have to have some sort of anti-inflammatory but because of the stress from both having to take care of my parents who are divorced from each other but at one time were living with us, and my daughter and her problems,, I developed a duodenal ulcer that still is not healed. So, I guess what Im trying to say is that while no one wants to get addicted to narcotics, what else will you do if you need pain control in order to be able to complete treatment? I live in a hot tub most of the time as hot water is the only other thing that helps my pain. you might give that a try and if you can afford it, invest in a good air bed or a memory foam bed. Getting enough rest is so important while on tx. Good luck hon and let us know how you are doing! jaxcharolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: narcotic addictions are ugly. it's not a place one ever wants to go.my Dr. and I have discussed what could happen when I start tx andpossible pain management. we also agree to worry about it when if weget there.I'm fortunate to have a 20+ year relationship with my Dr. so ourconversations are quite relaxed and informal. He's also a client ofmine, that's why we are relaxed with one another.at this point, I don't want to take any more drugs- I'm attempting toprepare for treatment, coming out of a major depression that includedhigh anxiety. my shrink wasn't taking patients, but because he's apersonal friend of ours, he agreed to take me on to get me thrutreatment. I'm blessed in many, many ways. After all, how many patients can calltheir shrink on a Saturday, on their cell and bitch about their drugs? ha!I dunno, I'm just used to the joint pains, the burning sensations intendons and hell, I'm just used to pain. Maybe pain is my friend? LOL> > > > >> > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyoneknow what> > the best> > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of> potential> > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things"going on> > that often> > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I couldoccassionaly take> > something> > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my> > self would> > > > > be great.> > > > > Thanks !> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We> hope you> > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to> our group,> > > just click the link--> > Hepatitis C/> > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 oh joy. I have so much to look forward to. > > > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what > > the best > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of > potential > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " going on > > that often > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take > > something > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > > self would > > > > > be great. > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We > hope you > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to > our group, > > > just click the link-- > > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I'm not going to disparage anyone who really needs narcotics to function. My problem is I will have to have mine (if I need them) monitored carefully and eventually will have to detox again. My biggest problem is I like the stuff. I got that personality, kwim? > > > > > > > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone > know what > > > the best > > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of > > potential > > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other " things " > going on > > > that often > > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could > occassionaly take > > > something > > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my > > > self would > > > > > > be great. > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We > > hope you > > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to > > our group, > > > > just click the link-- > > > Hepatitis C/ > > > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 well hon, YOU KNOW what is best for you, but I have to think that IF YOU were using them for pain control, you would have a less likely chance of becoming addicted,, but thats just my opinion,, cuz when you are in pain, you do not get any high from them at all,,charolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: I'm not going to disparage anyone who really needs narcotics to function. My problem is I will have to have mine (if I need them) monitoredcarefully and eventually will have to detox again.My biggest problem is I like the stuff. I got that personality, kwim?> > > > > >> > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone> know what> > > the best> > > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of> > potential> > > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things"> going on> > > that often> > > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could> occassionaly take> > > something> > > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I amhurting my> > > self would> > > > > > be great.> > > > > > Thanks !> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We> > hope you> > > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to> > our group,> > > > just click the link--> > > Hepatitis C/> > > > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 but it is doable and the pain IS controllable,charolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: oh joy. I have so much to look forward to. > > > > >> > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what> > the best> > > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of> potential> > > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on> > that often> > > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take> > something> > > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my> > self would> > > > > be great.> > > > > Thanks !> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We> hope you> > > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to> our group,> > > just click the link--> > Hepatitis C/> > > > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I am just getting prepared to start TX for the 2nd time, the first tome I was only on it for 5 months due to insurance purposes, and after almost 2 years of remission - mine came back. However, about 18 months ago I was diagnosed with RA, and I am in constant pain with it - hands and wrist mainly, I am so afraid of the TX causing more damage and pain, as the interferon is an immune booster and the RA is our immune systems turning on our on bodies, starting with our joints. IF anyone has any more info on this - please let me know. I took take 1000mg of naproxen a day and oxycodone just to stay out of pain, I receive no high what so ever, I am just relieved of the pain. Thanks in advance for any info and may God Bless and keep you all Peace and Hugs Marie -- Re: best pain relief Considering that no two people react exactly the same on TX, I'd say you were very fortunate. And I'm glad you didn't have flares with your RA. I'm so used to having joint pain that I probably won't know the difference when I start tx. My knees are really giving me hell right now. > > > > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what the best > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount of potential > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on that often > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take something > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my self would > > > be great. > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you > have found the support you need with us. > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, > just click the link-- Hepatitis C/ > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Jen, I was only on the meds for about 5 months due to insurance. When I stopped taking them, I was more emotional than I was on them, and let tell you I had every side affect possible. However, after about a month or so I was semi back to normal, at least my mood swings, memory however, has taken it's time coming back. Unfortunately I am getting ready to have to start them treatment again. Don't worry girl, hang in there, I promise, it does get better. Love, hugs and prayers Marie May God Bless and Keep you -- Re: Re: best pain relief That's funny that you say that about aches and pains because I was always a emotionally 'normal' person and since I have taken the hep c meds and since I have been off of them for a couple of weeks I can be quite a moody person. Does anyone know if this is normal or if I will be 'myself' again? I was naive in thinking that when I was done with this stuff I would feel normal, because I feel anything but! It's been an emotional roller coaster. I almost think I am bipolar. Happy one moment and then sad the next. Can the meds cause this because I never felt like this before? Thanks, Jenncharolais_87048 <charolais_87048@...> wrote: I'm on nothing at present. I do have tramadol for pain if I need it.Ibuprofen does nothing for me and I'm an ex-addict, so I have to stayaway from narcotics until it's unbearable. My Dr. isn't a pain nazi,thank God.I've learned to live with a lot of aches and pains. Makes for onebitchy human, lemme tell ya.> > > >> > > > I've read so many conflicting reports. Does anyone know what> the best> > > > choice for pain relief is - best as in least amount ofpotential> > > > dammage/stress to the liver? I have other "things" going on> that often> > > > cause discomfort and feeling as if I could occassionaly take> something> > > > to lighten the load with out feeling as if I am hurting my> self would> > > > be great.> > > > Thanks !> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. Wehope you> > have found the support you need with us. > > > > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access toour group,> > just click the link--> Hepatitis C/> > > > > > Happy Posting > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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