Re: Group please advice:Should I stop Valtrex?

[Guest guest]

I'm not Stan, but he firmly recommends Valtrex 3x/day with Diflucan.

For our 4yo son this made a big difference. We previously gave him

500mg twice a day, now we split the pills so it's 250mg 3x/day and

the daily dose of Diflucan is a must.

-Jon

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once

a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg

once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg

OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor

skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high,

behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the

time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not Stan, but he firmly recommends Valtrex 3x/day with Diflucan.

For our 4yo son this made a big difference. We previously gave him

500mg twice a day, now we split the pills so it's 250mg 3x/day and

the daily dose of Diflucan is a must.

-Jon

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once

a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg

once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg

OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor

skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high,

behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the

time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Forgive me , I'm just starting to jump back in after being out for a few

weeks, so

forgive me for not knowing the details of what happened.

I think the good news is you see gross motor gains, which is one of the signs

that Valtrex

is doing good things. If you don't have the yeast under control, you can't

really tell how

much milage you're getting from Valtrex. You really need to be on a good

antifungal at

the same time... Diflucan, Amphotericin B, or Nizoral (IMO).

That said, I'm don't have a strong opnion against chelating (if you really want

to) along

with Valrex once you get through the healing regression. If you do, I would get

liver

enzymes done every other month just to be sure, but there are many families who

do

both.

- Stan

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high, behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Forgive me , I'm just starting to jump back in after being out for a few

weeks, so

forgive me for not knowing the details of what happened.

I think the good news is you see gross motor gains, which is one of the signs

that Valtrex

is doing good things. If you don't have the yeast under control, you can't

really tell how

much milage you're getting from Valtrex. You really need to be on a good

antifungal at

the same time... Diflucan, Amphotericin B, or Nizoral (IMO).

That said, I'm don't have a strong opnion against chelating (if you really want

to) along

with Valrex once you get through the healing regression. If you do, I would get

liver

enzymes done every other month just to be sure, but there are many families who

do

both.

- Stan

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high, behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One more thing, I would be dosing Valtrex three times a day. More people see

results

three times a day than two times a day.

- Stan

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high, behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One more thing, I would be dosing Valtrex three times a day. More people see

results

three times a day than two times a day.

- Stan

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high, behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We can only do twice a day, as he out much of the day.

Also we did not observe any gains gross or fine motor.

[Guest guest]

We can only do twice a day, as he out much of the day.

Also we did not observe any gains gross or fine motor.

[Guest guest]

What exactly have you observed? Maybe we can offer some suggestions. Can you

tell us a

bit about your child's history.

- Stan

>

> We can only do twice a day, as he out much of the day.

> Also we did not observe any gains gross or fine motor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

What exactly have you observed? Maybe we can offer some suggestions. Can you

tell us a

bit about your child's history.

- Stan

>

> We can only do twice a day, as he out much of the day.

> Also we did not observe any gains gross or fine motor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

MY DS is 66 pounder 7.5 year old, major issues social, fine and gross

motor delay, pica, low physical energy although hyperactive(jumps a

lot). Started biomed at 4.5 year.

Started chelation with tddmps in sept,got subtle gains. Nystatin brought

clearing up of staring spells. No changes in motor or social skills.

Temporarily stopped chelation march end, becoz of low calcium.

Plan to start Detoxamin becoz of pica and high lead.

Started Valtrex at 250mg in mid Dec, moved on 500mg twice a day and

then did 2 months of Valtrex 500mg once a day.Went back to Valtrex

500mg twice a day and 500mg of OLE. Have got non red rash all over face

and sky high yeast and worsening behavoiur for the last 1 month.

I am not seeing any gains social, motor wise or behaviour wise on

overall 4 months of Valtrex.

He is a definite yeast and gut kid. Adding Diflucan to Valtrex worsened

behaviour much more, whereas Nystatin helps in behaviour so much.

Just started 500mg of L-carnitine tartarte to help with energy levels

and gross and fine motor skills.

I am at loss at now, should I give up on Valtex.

> >

> > We can only do twice a day, as he out much of the day.

> > Also we did not observe any gains gross or fine motor.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

MY DS is 66 pounder 7.5 year old, major issues social, fine and gross

motor delay, pica, low physical energy although hyperactive(jumps a

lot). Started biomed at 4.5 year.

Started chelation with tddmps in sept,got subtle gains. Nystatin brought

clearing up of staring spells. No changes in motor or social skills.

Temporarily stopped chelation march end, becoz of low calcium.

Plan to start Detoxamin becoz of pica and high lead.

Started Valtrex at 250mg in mid Dec, moved on 500mg twice a day and

then did 2 months of Valtrex 500mg once a day.Went back to Valtrex

500mg twice a day and 500mg of OLE. Have got non red rash all over face

and sky high yeast and worsening behavoiur for the last 1 month.

I am not seeing any gains social, motor wise or behaviour wise on

overall 4 months of Valtrex.

He is a definite yeast and gut kid. Adding Diflucan to Valtrex worsened

behaviour much more, whereas Nystatin helps in behaviour so much.

Just started 500mg of L-carnitine tartarte to help with energy levels

and gross and fine motor skills.

I am at loss at now, should I give up on Valtex.

> >

> > We can only do twice a day, as he out much of the day.

> > Also we did not observe any gains gross or fine motor.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I responded to this yesterday, but I read it again today. I can't stress the

importance of

having fungus under control while on Valtrex... and as I mentioned earlier, if

you don't see

some gains after 45 days, it may not be a therapy for you. Not all therapies

work for all

kids. This is a therapy that seems to help more than half the people who do it

(while

properly using an antifungal like Diflucan, Amp-B, Nizoral, etc). Additionally,

some people

have successfully added a metals detox strategy on top of Valtrex. I personally

didn't have

to. My son dumped metals well enough on Valtrex it seems. But, some families

go after

metals detox.

If I were in your shoes, I would work diligently on fungus for a week (possibly

two) and

then see where you are. If you don't see anything beneficial at that point, I

would move

the the next therapy.

- Stan

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high, behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I responded to this yesterday, but I read it again today. I can't stress the

importance of

having fungus under control while on Valtrex... and as I mentioned earlier, if

you don't see

some gains after 45 days, it may not be a therapy for you. Not all therapies

work for all

kids. This is a therapy that seems to help more than half the people who do it

(while

properly using an antifungal like Diflucan, Amp-B, Nizoral, etc). Additionally,

some people

have successfully added a metals detox strategy on top of Valtrex. I personally

didn't have

to. My son dumped metals well enough on Valtrex it seems. But, some families

go after

metals detox.

If I were in your shoes, I would work diligently on fungus for a week (possibly

two) and

then see where you are. If you don't see anything beneficial at that point, I

would move

the the next therapy.

- Stan

>

> DS has been on Valtrex since Dec 17, intially started at 500mg once a

> day, then moved to 500mg twice a day for one month, and now 500mg once

> a day for thenext 2 months. He weighs 66 pound, 7 year old.

>

> Since April 1 he has been on 500mg Valtrex twice a day and 500mg OLE,

> I have not observed any improvement in his gross or fine motor skills

> or any other improvements. The yeast did kick up sky high, behavoiurs

> went downhill and we did get non red rash all over his face, the time

> he was on Valtrex.

>

> I feel that I have wasted these 5 months on Valtrex.

> We stopped chelating with tddmps at march end.

>

> Please advice.

>

>

>