help please, just started virastop - ?

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only) that

our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started with

one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided 2x

throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a week,

then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost the

last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME. He

always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against his

eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely spacey

and is no longer answering questions. He is very withdrawn. There

is no mistaking this sudden change in our son.

When I read that we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms when

starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very very

hard to see.

: I read your story with your viral protocol....and I believe

you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

And others: What can I read into the fact that our son immediately

became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

sign...meaning the healing regression?

Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or continue with

virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this weekend.

Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last shot/hope

for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and in

all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

Please? Thanks......Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I am sorry to hear that you are off to such a rough start. It seems

to me that there could be two things going on: It may be that the

Virastop is hitting something hard already OR it may be that he

doesn't tolerate the Virstop. I don't know exactly how you

determine what is what but, given the severity of his reaction, I

would hold off on adding the OLE and I would tread gently with the

VS. We started both at the same time (stupid, I know) but my son

tolerated them well (until he decided to stop eating :-(). How is

the yeast?

Anne

>

> Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)

that

> our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

> scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

>

> Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started

with

> one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided 2x

> throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

week,

> then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

>

> Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost

the

> last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.

He

> always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against

his

> eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely spacey

> and is no longer answering questions. He is very withdrawn.

There

> is no mistaking this sudden change in our son.

>

> When I read that we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

when

> starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very

very

> hard to see.

>

> : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

believe

> you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

>

> And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

immediately

> became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> sign...meaning the healing regression?

>

> Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or continue

with

> virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this weekend.

>

> Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

>

> Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

shot/hope

> for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

in

> all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

>

> Please? Thanks......Kim

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I am sorry to hear that you are off to such a rough start. It seems

to me that there could be two things going on: It may be that the

Virastop is hitting something hard already OR it may be that he

doesn't tolerate the Virstop. I don't know exactly how you

determine what is what but, given the severity of his reaction, I

would hold off on adding the OLE and I would tread gently with the

VS. We started both at the same time (stupid, I know) but my son

tolerated them well (until he decided to stop eating :-(). How is

the yeast?

Anne

>

> Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)

that

> our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

> scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

>

> Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started

with

> one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided 2x

> throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

week,

> then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

>

> Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost

the

> last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.

He

> always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against

his

> eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely spacey

> and is no longer answering questions. He is very withdrawn.

There

> is no mistaking this sudden change in our son.

>

> When I read that we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

when

> starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very

very

> hard to see.

>

> : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

believe

> you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

>

> And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

immediately

> became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> sign...meaning the healing regression?

>

> Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or continue

with

> virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this weekend.

>

> Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

>

> Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

shot/hope

> for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

in

> all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

>

> Please? Thanks......Kim

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

did the same thing as your son in losing about 4 months of

progress while on OLE. We rode it out. Then we started seeing

gains in other areas (language, social). It was scary, and weird.

Then it all came back. I think a lot of people here can relate. We

now have him on both Virastop and OLE, with less of an impact than

the first round.

It sounds to me like you are seeing healing regression combined with

yeast (spaciness). If you are not using any antifungals, now would

be a good time to start.

To me the fact that you are seeing this may not be a bad thing going

by what we saw. His body is fighting something or moving metals.

Any time we ever saw regression, it was always followed by gains. I

sometimes tell people that when we would do things and not see any

regression is when I worried that nothing was happening.

If it were me, knowing what I know now, I would add the OLE with the

Virastop. Start slow and work your way up. This is what we did.

As our child started returning to normal, we would up dosage again

and he would go back into the regression.

Healing regression was not a fun thing for us , especially since we

had two kids going through it. It really freaked us out!

>

> Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)

that

> our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

> scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

>

> Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started

with

> one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided 2x

> throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

week,

> then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

>

> Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost

the

> last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.

He

> always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against

his

> eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely spacey

> and is no longer answering questions. He is very withdrawn.

There

> is no mistaking this sudden change in our son.

>

> When I read that we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

when

> starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very

very

> hard to see.

>

> : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

believe

> you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

>

> And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

immediately

> became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> sign...meaning the healing regression?

>

> Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or continue

with

> virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this weekend.

>

> Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

>

> Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

shot/hope

> for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

in

> all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

>

> Please? Thanks......Kim

>

[Guest guest]

one other thing...

Sorry typing faster than I think. I did not mean to add the OLE

right away, but to wait until he starts tolerating the Virastop

first and then gradually add it and work your way up. Baby steps.

It sounds like your child is extremely viral.

> >

> > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)

> that

> > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

> > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

> >

> > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started

> with

> > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided

2x

> > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

> week,

> > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> >

> > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost

> the

> > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE

TIME.

> He

> > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against

> his

> > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely

spacey

> > and is no longer answering questions. He is very withdrawn.

> There

> > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son.

> >

> > When I read that we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> when

> > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very

> very

> > hard to see.

> >

> > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> believe

> > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> >

> > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> immediately

> > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> > sign...meaning the healing regression?

> >

> > Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or continue

> with

> > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

weekend.

> >

> > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> >

> > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> shot/hope

> > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

> in

> > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> >

> > Please? Thanks......Kim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks : I have OLE at home right now...and adding it in would

be no problem. We are not on any antifungal...but use naturals.

Although, naturals/Rx's havent touched our son's yeast much...but I

have no problem asking for diflucan. Dr. Usman's office was very

generous with us in the past giving us a long term script for

diflucan.

Yes, you are right...it is SO scary. Its like watching a different

child overnight. It helps to know that there is an " end to the

regression " and I am SO hoping that we see the return to normal also.

By the way...I just sent your wife a message as she replied to yet

another problem we are having...so I am talking to you both at the

same time. You will be sick of me. Apparently, our son's school

called because he has a venemnous spider bite...and they want us to

bring him in to give antibiotics. Great, more toxins in our son

that he cant excrete. Does it ever end? Dont answer!

My husband is at home and will bring him in....and I already told him

to go for the shot instead of oral antibiotics. He hates this

stuff.

Finally, I also believe that regression can be a good thing. It

usually means that there is a problem to begin with...and the

supp/medication is addressing it. I just didnt know it would happen

this quickly! Man, this was right away.

Take care....God Bless! Kim

> >

> > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)

> that

> > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

> > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

> >

> > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started

> with

> > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided 2x

> > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

> week,

> > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> >

> > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost

> the

> > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.

> He

> > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against

> his

> > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely

spacey

> > and is no longer answering questions. He is very withdrawn.

> There

> > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son.

> >

> > When I read that we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> when

> > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very

> very

> > hard to see.

> >

> > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> believe

> > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> >

> > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> immediately

> > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> > sign...meaning the healing regression?

> >

> > Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or continue

> with

> > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this weekend.

> >

> > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> >

> > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> shot/hope

> > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

> in

> > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> >

> > Please? Thanks......Kim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Be thankful that your child is responding quickly, just keep an eye

on him. Like I said, we saw EXACTLY the same thing. Keep us up on

the progress. It will help others going through this.

That sucks about the spider bite!

> > >

> > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition

only)

> > that

> > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for

valtrex/diflucan

> > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor

Day.

> > >

> > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I

started

> > with

> > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided

2x

> > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

> > week,

> > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > >

> > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we

lost

> > the

> > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE

TIME.

> > He

> > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up

against

> > his

> > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely

> spacey

> > > and is no longer answering questions. He is very withdrawn.

> > There

> > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son.

> > >

> > > When I read that we can expect an increase in autistic

symptoms

> > when

> > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was

very

> > very

> > > hard to see.

> > >

> > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> > believe

> > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > >

> > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > immediately

> > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> > > sign...meaning the healing regression?

> > >

> > > Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or

continue

> > with

> > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

weekend.

> > >

> > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > >

> > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> > shot/hope

> > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially,

and

> > in

> > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> > >

> > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim;

Just read your post about your son. I can empathize with you about hoping viral treatments will be the answer for his progress.

My daughter too is a tough nut. We're trying everything and she doesn't respond well to anything. Trying to get our DAN onboard for a valtrex trial but will probably pursue the OLE/virastop route like you did.

Don't give up hope! Responses to your post seem encouraging. Best of luck to you and keep us posted on his progress.

Another Kim :-)

help please, just started virastop - ?

Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only) that our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what happens.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim;

Just read your post about your son. I can empathize with you about hoping viral treatments will be the answer for his progress.

My daughter too is a tough nut. We're trying everything and she doesn't respond well to anything. Trying to get our DAN onboard for a valtrex trial but will probably pursue the OLE/virastop route like you did.

Don't give up hope! Responses to your post seem encouraging. Best of luck to you and keep us posted on his progress.

Another Kim :-)

help please, just started virastop - ?

Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only) that our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what happens.

[Guest guest]

Can anyone tell me where I can get virastop?

lTHAnks

> Re: help please, just started virastop - ?

> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:56:43 -0000

>

>

> Kim,

>

> did the same thing as your son in losing about 4 months of

> progress while on OLE. We rode it out. Then we started seeing

> gains in other areas (language, social). It was scary, and weird.

> Then it all came back. I think a lot of people here can relate. We

> now have him on both Virastop and OLE, with less of an impact than

> the first round.

>

> It sounds to me like you are seeing healing regression combined with

> yeast (spaciness). If you are not using any antifungals, now would

> be a good time to start.

>

> To me the fact that you are seeing this may not be a bad thing going

> by what we saw. His body is fighting something or moving metals.

> Any time we ever saw regression, it was always followed by gains. I

> sometimes tell people that when we would do things and not see any

> regression is when I worried that nothing was happening.

>

> If it were me, knowing what I know now, I would add the OLE with the

> Virastop. Start slow and work your way up. This is what we did.

> As our child started returning to normal, we would up dosage again

> and he would go back into the regression.

>

> Healing regression was not a fun thing for us , especially since we

> had two kids going through it. It really freaked us out!

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)

> that

> > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

> > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

> >

> > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started

> with

> > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided 2x

> > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

> week,

> > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> >

> > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost

> the

> > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.

> He

> > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against

> his

> > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely

> > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > withdrawn.

> There

> > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I read that

> > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> when

> > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very

> very

> > hard to see.

> >

> > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> believe

> > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> >

> > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> immediately

> > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be adding in

> > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> with

> > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this weekend.

> > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> >

> > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> shot/hope

> > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

> in

> > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> >

> > Please? Thanks......Kim

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> > >

> > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)

> > that

> > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan

> > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what

> > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.

> > >

> > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started

> > with

> > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided

2x

> > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

> > week,

> > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > >

> > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost

> > the

> > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.

> > He

> > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against

> > his

> > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely

> > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > > withdrawn.

> > There

> > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I read

that

> > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> > when

> > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was very

> > very

> > > hard to see.

> > >

> > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> > believe

> > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > >

> > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > immediately

> > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be adding in

> > > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> > with

> > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

weekend.

> > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > >

> > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> > shot/hope

> > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

> > in

> > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> > >

> > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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List of on-line retailers for Enzymedica products (incl. Virastop)

http://www.enzymedica.com/online.php

> > > >

> > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition

only)

> > > that

> > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for

valtrex/diflucan

> > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see

what

> > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor

Day.

> > > >

> > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I

started

> > > with

> > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were

divided

> 2x

> > > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

> > > week,

> > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > > >

> > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we

lost

> > > the

> > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE

TIME.

> > > He

> > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up

against

> > > his

> > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely

> > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > > > withdrawn.

> > > There

> > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I read

> that

> > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> > > when

> > > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was

very

> > > very

> > > > hard to see.

> > > >

> > > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> > > believe

> > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > > >

> > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > > immediately

> > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be adding

in

> > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> > > with

> > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

> weekend.

> > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > > >

> > > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> > > shot/hope

> > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially,

and

> > > in

> > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> > > >

> > > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

List of on-line retailers for Enzymedica products (incl. Virastop)

http://www.enzymedica.com/online.php

> > > >

> > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition

only)

> > > that

> > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol

> > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for

valtrex/diflucan

> > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see

what

> > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor

Day.

> > > >

> > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I

started

> > > with

> > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were

divided

> 2x

> > > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule for a

> > > week,

> > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > > >

> > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we

lost

> > > the

> > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE

TIME.

> > > He

> > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up

against

> > > his

> > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely

> > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > > > withdrawn.

> > > There

> > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I read

> that

> > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> > > when

> > > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It was

very

> > > very

> > > > hard to see.

> > > >

> > > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> > > believe

> > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > > >

> > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > > immediately

> > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be adding

in

> > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> > > with

> > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

> weekend.

> > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > > >

> > > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> > > shot/hope

> > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially,

and

> > > in

> > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> > > >

> > > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Boy, your son's having a rough time of it. But, the good news is

that the antivirals seem to be very important to him.

My opinion would be to add in the OLE before you escalate the VS.

SLOWLY. And then continue to boost first VS then OLE in the step

pattern, based on how your son is doing. I am getting the

impression from my experience here with my son that although VS on

its own might be enough for people with fairly strong balanced

immune systems, other antivirals will be necessary for those who

don't have that. Same goes for Lauricidin. I see those two as

preparing the viruses for the immune system to go in for the kill;

however, ASD kids might need the help of something like OLE to

complete that kill efficiently.

Does that make sense?

Hang in there. :-)

Anita

>

> And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

immediately

> became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good

> sign...meaning the healing regression?

>

> Should I be adding in the OLE right from the start, or continue

with

> virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this weekend.

>

> Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

>

> Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

shot/hope

> for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and

in

> all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

>

> Please? Thanks......Kim

>

[Guest guest]

, You mentioned in this message, "If you are not using any anti-fungals, now would be a good time to start" in regards to spaciness. I am not doing the Valtrex, but using something else to pull the metals out and was wondering if the anti fungal would be good for silliness as well and which one you would recommend that is not over the counter. My son is having a problem with silliness and spaciness. I plan on doing the anti-viral thing at some point, just watching for now. Thanks, Suzanne oemaker_angela <angie11@...> wrote: List of on-line retailers for Enzymedica products (incl. Virastop)http://www.enzymedica.com/online.php--- In mb12 valtrex ,

"shoemaker_angela" <angie11@...> wrote:>> some people get it here: The Vitamin Shoppe> > http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=KT-7001> > Also available here at: Total discount vitamins> http://www.totaldiscountvitamins.com/default.asp?> CatalogID=62928 & SubfolderID=76 & AssocID=pricegrabber> > > Angie> > > > > > >> > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)> > > that> > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol > > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan > > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what > > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.> > > >> > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started> > > with> > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided > 2x > > > > throughout the day. I plan

on keeping with one capsule for a> > > week,> > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.> > > >> > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost> > > the> > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.> > > He> > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against> > > his> > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely > > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very > > > > withdrawn.> > > There> > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I read > that > > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms> > > when> > > > starting a viral

protocol....I never expected this. It was very> > > very> > > > hard to see.> > > >> > > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I> > > believe> > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?> > > >> > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son> > > immediately> > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good > > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be adding in > > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue> > > with> > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this > weekend. > > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?> > > >> > > > Our son

is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last> > > shot/hope> > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and> > > in> > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.> > > >> > > > Please? Thanks......Kim> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

, You mentioned in this message, "If you are not using any anti-fungals, now would be a good time to start" in regards to spaciness. I am not doing the Valtrex, but using something else to pull the metals out and was wondering if the anti fungal would be good for silliness as well and which one you would recommend that is not over the counter. My son is having a problem with silliness and spaciness. I plan on doing the anti-viral thing at some point, just watching for now. Thanks, Suzanne oemaker_angela <angie11@...> wrote: List of on-line retailers for Enzymedica products (incl. Virastop)http://www.enzymedica.com/online.php--- In mb12 valtrex ,

"shoemaker_angela" <angie11@...> wrote:>> some people get it here: The Vitamin Shoppe> > http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=KT-7001> > Also available here at: Total discount vitamins> http://www.totaldiscountvitamins.com/default.asp?> CatalogID=62928 & SubfolderID=76 & AssocID=pricegrabber> > > Angie> > > > > > >> > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition only)> > > that> > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral protocol > > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for valtrex/diflucan > > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see what > > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since Labor Day.> > > >> > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I started> > > with> > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were divided > 2x > > > > throughout the day. I plan

on keeping with one capsule for a> > > week,> > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.> > > >> > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if we lost> > > the> > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE TIME.> > > He> > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up against> > > his> > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is extremely > > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very > > > > withdrawn.> > > There> > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I read > that > > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms> > > when> > > > starting a viral

protocol....I never expected this. It was very> > > very> > > > hard to see.> > > >> > > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I> > > believe> > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?> > > >> > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son> > > immediately> > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a good > > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be adding in > > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue> > > with> > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this > weekend. > > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?> > > >> > > > Our son

is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last> > > shot/hope> > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers, socially, and> > > in> > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.> > > >> > > > Please? Thanks......Kim> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

It sounds like a yeast issue. I don't recommend any in particular,

I leave the yeast fighting up to my wife, but I know we do use the

following, and rotate them. Some kids will do well with these,

others may need something else.

Yeast Aid

Uva Ursi (works great, but will tax liver if extended use)

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Oil of Oregano

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition

> only)

> > > > that

> > > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral

protocol

> > > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for

> valtrex/diflucan

> > > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see

> what

> > > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since

Labor

> Day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I

> started

> > > > with

> > > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were

> divided

> > 2x

> > > > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule

for a

> > > > week,

> > > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if

we

> lost

> > > > the

> > > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE

> TIME.

> > > > He

> > > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up

> against

> > > > his

> > > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is

extremely

> > > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > > > > withdrawn.

> > > > There

> > > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I

read

> > that

> > > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> > > > when

> > > > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It

was

> very

> > > > very

> > > > > hard to see.

> > > > >

> > > > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> > > > believe

> > > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > > > immediately

> > > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a

good

> > > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be

adding

> in

> > > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> > > > with

> > > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

> > weekend.

> > > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > > > >

> > > > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> > > > shot/hope

> > > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers,

socially,

> and

> > > > in

> > > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

It sounds like a yeast issue. I don't recommend any in particular,

I leave the yeast fighting up to my wife, but I know we do use the

following, and rotate them. Some kids will do well with these,

others may need something else.

Yeast Aid

Uva Ursi (works great, but will tax liver if extended use)

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Oil of Oregano

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition

> only)

> > > > that

> > > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral

protocol

> > > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for

> valtrex/diflucan

> > > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see

> what

> > > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since

Labor

> Day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I

> started

> > > > with

> > > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were

> divided

> > 2x

> > > > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule

for a

> > > > week,

> > > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if

we

> lost

> > > > the

> > > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL THE

> TIME.

> > > > He

> > > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up

> against

> > > > his

> > > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is

extremely

> > > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > > > > withdrawn.

> > > > There

> > > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I

read

> > that

> > > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> > > > when

> > > > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It

was

> very

> > > > very

> > > > > hard to see.

> > > > >

> > > > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and I

> > > > believe

> > > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > > > immediately

> > > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a

good

> > > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be

adding

> in

> > > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> > > > with

> > > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

> > weekend.

> > > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > > > >

> > > > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our last

> > > > shot/hope

> > > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers,

socially,

> and

> > > > in

> > > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Oops! forgot Candex(we have not used this one), but we have used

Candidase (also from makers of Virastop)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing

(intuition

> > only)

> > > > > that

> > > > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral

> protocol

> > > > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for

> > valtrex/diflucan

> > > > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and

see

> > what

> > > > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since

> Labor

> > Day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I

> > started

> > > > > with

> > > > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were

> > divided

> > > 2x

> > > > > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule

> for a

> > > > > week,

> > > > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if

> we

> > lost

> > > > > the

> > > > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL

THE

> > TIME.

> > > > > He

> > > > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up

> > against

> > > > > his

> > > > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is

> extremely

> > > > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > > > > > withdrawn.

> > > > > There

> > > > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I

> read

> > > that

> > > > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> > > > > when

> > > > > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It

> was

> > very

> > > > > very

> > > > > > hard to see.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > : I read your story with your viral

protocol....and I

> > > > > believe

> > > > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > > > > immediately

> > > > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a

> good

> > > > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be

> adding

> > in

> > > > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> > > > > with

> > > > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

> > > weekend.

> > > > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our

last

> > > > > shot/hope

> > > > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers,

> socially,

> > and

> > > > > in

> > > > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our

answer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Just like to add to what already said in addition to antifungal

make sure you also provide plenty of probiotics to keep the gut in

check. (This is the good guy gut bacteria)

Yeast is tricky and can be a tug of war until its udder control.

Remember anytime you are using antifungal you are also taking away

the friendly gut bacteria that needs to present in a healthy

environment.

Kenny V

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello everyone: After a long time and knowing (intuition

> > only)

> > > > > that

> > > > > > our son is very viral...we decided to take the viral

> protocol

> > > > > > plunge. While we see Dr. Usman next month for

> > valtrex/diflucan

> > > > > > scripts.....we decided to start with virastop/OLE and see

> > what

> > > > > > happens. Our son is already on LDN, full dose since

> Labor

> > Day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, I have never been so upset in a very long time. I

> > started

> > > > > with

> > > > > > one virastop saturday, one virastop sunday...they were

> > divided

> > > 2x

> > > > > > throughout the day. I plan on keeping with one capsule

> for a

> > > > > week,

> > > > > > then increase to 2 capsules a week, and so forth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our son was the worst wreck ever. Behaviorly, its as if

> we

> > lost

> > > > > the

> > > > > > last 4 months of chelation. He is visual stimming ALL

THE

> > TIME.

> > > > > He

> > > > > > always has something in his hand that he is pressing up

> > against

> > > > > his

> > > > > > eyes. He became very obsessive, very OCD. He is

> extremely

> > > > > > spacey and is no longer answering questions. He is very

> > > > > > withdrawn.

> > > > > There

> > > > > > is no mistaking this sudden change in our son. When I

> read

> > > that

> > > > > > we can expect an increase in autistic symptoms

> > > > > when

> > > > > > starting a viral protocol....I never expected this. It

> was

> > very

> > > > > very

> > > > > > hard to see.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > : I read your story with your viral protocol....and

I

> > > > > believe

> > > > > > you used OLE instead of virastop? Is this correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And others: What can I read into the fact that our son

> > > > > immediately

> > > > > > became worse with just one virastop a day? IS this a

> good

> > > > > > sign...meaning the healing regression? Should I be

> adding

> > in

> > > > > > the OLE right from the start, or continue

> > > > > with

> > > > > > virastop? A big part of me wants to add in the OLE this

> > > weekend.

> > > > > > Any thoughts? Any words of encouragement?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our son is 6 years old, and the viral treatment is our

last

> > > > > shot/hope

> > > > > > for recovery. He is SO VERY far behind his peers,

> socially,

> > and

> > > > > in

> > > > > > all areas. I was really hoping that this was our answer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please? Thanks......Kim

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >