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Wow, that is very interesting. I have never heard that one before.

I wonder if too much works against you somehow? To answer your

question, I do not know.

We were using drops, and I increased them gradually for me and my

wife (as we did with our kids) until we got up to just beyond the

max adult dose. For my kids, we would increase until we saw

regression, and then wait for it to subside and then increase it

more until we saw more regression. We continued this until

everything stopped.

I have never heard that one before.

>

> Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

answer. I

> looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

OLE. I

> began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my

> night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it

he

> suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress.

I

> stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

morning

> I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can

see

> tremendous changes again.

>

> Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically

to

> happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see

> changes again? Thanks, Pam

>

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Wow, that is very interesting. I have never heard that one before.

I wonder if too much works against you somehow? To answer your

question, I do not know.

We were using drops, and I increased them gradually for me and my

wife (as we did with our kids) until we got up to just beyond the

max adult dose. For my kids, we would increase until we saw

regression, and then wait for it to subside and then increase it

more until we saw more regression. We continued this until

everything stopped.

I have never heard that one before.

>

> Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

answer. I

> looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

OLE. I

> began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my

> night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it

he

> suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress.

I

> stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

morning

> I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can

see

> tremendous changes again.

>

> Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically

to

> happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see

> changes again? Thanks, Pam

>

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Not , but this is a very interesting observation. I think we can learn a

lot from people

who can verbalize how therapies feel since our kids can't.

If I understand you correctly Pam, you are seeing gains in your health from less

OLE than

you started (or are you saying that you are seeing less negative things?)

I'll leave the rest for to answer.

- Stan

>

> Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to answer. I

> looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the OLE. I

> began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my

> night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it he

> suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress. I

> stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This morning

> I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can see

> tremendous changes again.

>

> Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically to

> happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see

> changes again? Thanks, Pam

>

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Not , but this is a very interesting observation. I think we can learn a

lot from people

who can verbalize how therapies feel since our kids can't.

If I understand you correctly Pam, you are seeing gains in your health from less

OLE than

you started (or are you saying that you are seeing less negative things?)

I'll leave the rest for to answer.

- Stan

>

> Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to answer. I

> looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the OLE. I

> began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my

> night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it he

> suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress. I

> stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This morning

> I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can see

> tremendous changes again.

>

> Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically to

> happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see

> changes again? Thanks, Pam

>

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Stan or , I have been taking ole for about 2 weeks now and I have noticed me being more tired. Is this a good or bad sign? Thanks, R.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Stan KurtzSent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:50 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Valtres, OLE, Virastop (continued)Not , but this is a very interesting observation. I think we can learn a lot from people who can verbalize how therapies feel since our kids can't. If I understand you correctly Pam, you are seeing gains in your health from less OLE than you started (or are you saying that you are seeing less negative things?)I'll leave the rest for to answer.- Stan >> Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to answer. I > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the OLE. I > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it he > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress. I > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This morning > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can see > tremendous changes again. > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically to > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see > changes again? Thanks, Pam>

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Stan or , I have been taking ole for about 2 weeks now and I have noticed me being more tired. Is this a good or bad sign? Thanks, R.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Stan KurtzSent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:50 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Valtres, OLE, Virastop (continued)Not , but this is a very interesting observation. I think we can learn a lot from people who can verbalize how therapies feel since our kids can't. If I understand you correctly Pam, you are seeing gains in your health from less OLE than you started (or are you saying that you are seeing less negative things?)I'll leave the rest for to answer.- Stan >> Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to answer. I > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the OLE. I > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it he > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress. I > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This morning > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can see > tremendous changes again. > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically to > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see > changes again? Thanks, Pam>

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The same thing happened to me, but it was after about a week.

Shortly afterwards, a virus that I got years ago in college that

centered itself in my back came back. I could not move my eyes

right or left without pain, and it felt like I threw my back out. I

got it to a much lessor degree than the first time.

> >

> > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

answer. I

> > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

OLE. I

> > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost

my

> > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

it he

> > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

progress. I

> > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

morning

> > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

can see

> > tremendous changes again.

> >

> > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

metabolically to

> > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

see

> > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The same thing happened to me, but it was after about a week.

Shortly afterwards, a virus that I got years ago in college that

centered itself in my back came back. I could not move my eyes

right or left without pain, and it felt like I threw my back out. I

got it to a much lessor degree than the first time.

> >

> > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

answer. I

> > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

OLE. I

> > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost

my

> > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

it he

> > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

progress. I

> > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

morning

> > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

can see

> > tremendous changes again.

> >

> > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

metabolically to

> > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

see

> > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have a feeling this is one of those things we'll learn about in time. I'm

glad to see we

have adult experience with it. The only way we'll know is through other people

who have

gone through this before. Keep reporting in as will others and let's see what

we can learn.

- Stan

> >

> > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to answer. I

> > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the OLE. I

> > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my

> > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it he

> > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress. I

> > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This morning

> > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can see

> > tremendous changes again.

> >

> > Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically to

> > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see

> > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have a feeling this is one of those things we'll learn about in time. I'm

glad to see we

have adult experience with it. The only way we'll know is through other people

who have

gone through this before. Keep reporting in as will others and let's see what

we can learn.

- Stan

> >

> > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to answer. I

> > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the OLE. I

> > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost my

> > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes it he

> > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no progress. I

> > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This morning

> > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I can see

> > tremendous changes again.

> >

> > Could taking too much OLE cause something different metabolically to

> > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to see

> > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi again. I just posted for my daughter and I am answering this

question about myself. What I am seeing on 1capsule 2x daily is

Every ailment I've ever had is being addressed and corrected. I

have Epstein Barr, night blindness, Candida, 2 c-sections etc.. For

instance, c-section scar bubble up turn red then heal. Night

blindness corrected after two days of tremendous headaches. A knee

condition from skiing painful for about two weeks. then gone.

Menstrual cycle bleeding continualy on an off corrected. Very

painful gums for three days. Receeding gums. Gone. Changes of the

white on my tongue(still there but, better.)

When I increased the OLE to 2 capsules 2X daily. These things

stopped. I hadn't experienced anything for the entire time. I

changed back yesterday and now My tongue is sore. So although these

things are negative. I feel they are positive to address all

ailments in my body. I just decreased 's OLE to 1/2 capsule

2X daily. Maybe she will continue to heal. Thanks for all your

time. Have a great day. Pam

> >

> > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

answer. I

> > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

OLE. I

> > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost

my

> > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

it he

> > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

progress. I

> > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

morning

> > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

can see

> > tremendous changes again.

> >

> > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

metabolically to

> > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

see

> > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> >

>

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Hi again. I just posted for my daughter and I am answering this

question about myself. What I am seeing on 1capsule 2x daily is

Every ailment I've ever had is being addressed and corrected. I

have Epstein Barr, night blindness, Candida, 2 c-sections etc.. For

instance, c-section scar bubble up turn red then heal. Night

blindness corrected after two days of tremendous headaches. A knee

condition from skiing painful for about two weeks. then gone.

Menstrual cycle bleeding continualy on an off corrected. Very

painful gums for three days. Receeding gums. Gone. Changes of the

white on my tongue(still there but, better.)

When I increased the OLE to 2 capsules 2X daily. These things

stopped. I hadn't experienced anything for the entire time. I

changed back yesterday and now My tongue is sore. So although these

things are negative. I feel they are positive to address all

ailments in my body. I just decreased 's OLE to 1/2 capsule

2X daily. Maybe she will continue to heal. Thanks for all your

time. Have a great day. Pam

> >

> > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

answer. I

> > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

OLE. I

> > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE capsule

> > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I lost

my

> > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many bodily

> > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

it he

> > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

progress. I

> > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

morning

> > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

can see

> > tremendous changes again.

> >

> > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

metabolically to

> > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

see

> > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> >

>

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Pam it looks like its working like a homeopathic remedy - needs to

be the right dose, very imp. Glad you experimented and found your

happy place. Less sure is more in your case.

Gayatri

> > >

> > > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

> answer. I

> > > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

> OLE. I

> > > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE

capsule

> > > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I

lost

> my

> > > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many

bodily

> > > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

> it he

> > > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

> progress. I

> > > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

> morning

> > > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

> can see

> > > tremendous changes again.

> > >

> > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

> metabolically to

> > > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

> see

> > > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> > >

> >

>

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Pam it looks like its working like a homeopathic remedy - needs to

be the right dose, very imp. Glad you experimented and found your

happy place. Less sure is more in your case.

Gayatri

> > >

> > > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

> answer. I

> > > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

> OLE. I

> > > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE

capsule

> > > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I

lost

> my

> > > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many

bodily

> > > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

> it he

> > > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

> progress. I

> > > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

> morning

> > > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

> can see

> > > tremendous changes again.

> > >

> > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

> metabolically to

> > > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

> see

> > > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> > >

> >

>

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There are a lot of things going on here. Please make sure you have

a good doctor. I'm hearing Fungal, Viral, and Heavy Metal symptoms

in your post. I would start healing in that order.

- Stan

> > >

> > > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

> answer. I

> > > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

> OLE. I

> > > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE

capsule

> > > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I

lost

> my

> > > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many

bodily

> > > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

> it he

> > > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

> progress. I

> > > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

> morning

> > > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

> can see

> > > tremendous changes again.

> > >

> > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

> metabolically to

> > > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

> see

> > > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> > >

> >

>

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There are a lot of things going on here. Please make sure you have

a good doctor. I'm hearing Fungal, Viral, and Heavy Metal symptoms

in your post. I would start healing in that order.

- Stan

> > >

> > > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

> answer. I

> > > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

> OLE. I

> > > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE

capsule

> > > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I

lost

> my

> > > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many

bodily

> > > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

> it he

> > > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

> progress. I

> > > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

> morning

> > > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

> can see

> > > tremendous changes again.

> > >

> > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

> metabolically to

> > > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

> see

> > > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> > >

> >

>

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There are a lot of things going on here. Please make sure you have

a good doctor. I'm hearing Fungal, Viral, and Heavy Metal symptoms

in your post. I would start healing in that order.

- Stan

> > >

> > > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

> answer. I

> > > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

> OLE. I

> > > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE

capsule

> > > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I

lost

> my

> > > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many

bodily

> > > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

> it he

> > > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

> progress. I

> > > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

> morning

> > > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

> can see

> > > tremendous changes again.

> > >

> > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

> metabolically to

> > > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

> see

> > > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> > >

> >

>

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Wow! That is amazing. Thanks for posting. It sounds like a lot is

going on here. Be extremely careful with this, and make sure you

get yourself a few different really good probiotics when this is all

over.

> > >

> > > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

> answer. I

> > > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

> OLE. I

> > > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE

capsule

> > > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I

lost

> my

> > > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many

bodily

> > > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

> it he

> > > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

> progress. I

> > > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

> morning

> > > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

> can see

> > > tremendous changes again.

> > >

> > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

> metabolically to

> > > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

> see

> > > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> > >

> >

>

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Wow! That is amazing. Thanks for posting. It sounds like a lot is

going on here. Be extremely careful with this, and make sure you

get yourself a few different really good probiotics when this is all

over.

> > >

> > > Hi, I posted this morning I would like if possible to

> answer. I

> > > looked into your blog and noticed you and your wife began the

> OLE. I

> > > began when my daughter began. I was taking 1 OLE

capsule

> > > 2Xdaily and feeling pretty horrible. Regressive state. I

lost

> my

> > > night blindness 4 days into the OLE and have had too many

bodily

> > > things occur to mention. I spoke with a friend who also takes

> it he

> > > suggested I take 2 capsules 2X daily. I did and saw no

> progress. I

> > > stayed on that schedule for three weeks with no changes. This

> morning

> > > I went back to 1 capsule 2X daily and after my first capsule I

> can see

> > > tremendous changes again.

> > >

> > > Could taking too much OLE cause something different

> metabolically to

> > > happen? and backing up and taking the smaller dosage begin to

> see

> > > changes again? Thanks, Pam

> > >

> >

>

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