Re: Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?

[Guest guest]

Kesha,

You are describing Tyler to a " T " when we put him on Adderall... It was the

worst experience we ever had!!! Not only did it make him act as if he were

on overdrive all the time, he seemed to have looser inhibitions (talking

back, not caring about what anyone else may think, allowing anger to take

over, inability to control his behavior, massive troubles with obsessive and

compulsive behaviors, forgetting things we had just asked him to do or not

to do, etc). He also was much more sensitive to sensory stimulation and

would become hyper and out of control. His behavior became really weird, and

he often said that he didn't know what he was doing wrong or why we thought

it was wrong!!!

We took him off Adderall after three weeks and he crashed, feeling horrible

about how he had been acting but so anxious about still not feeling in

control. Straterra, the medication we tried next, has been a god-send for

us!!! We saw a difference within the first month and he is really good at

remembering to take it on his own (he is almost 15). If he forgets, we/he

notice it within 12-15 hours. His confidence has gone up, he has his

impulses under control, he doesn't become over anxious (unless the situation

is extreme), he has control over his behavior, he isn't threatening suicide

as he was starting to by the end of our run with Adderall, and he is now

calm enough on the medication to where he can actually notice the

actions/reactions of others, and often identifies and responds to them

correctly. He is able to pay attention in class and is consistently on the

honor roll. He is even being given an outstanding academic achievement award

at graduation in 10 days!

Anyway, my advice is this. If he acts that way on the medication, is the

medication really doing that much for you? Wouldn't it be worth trying

something else again to see if perhaps a non-stimulant would work better and

give him more control over his actions/behaviors? I know how hard and

expensive it is to keep switching meds, but it seems like each of these

kiddos is affected differently by different meds (some swear by adderall) as

they are by different therapies. They are so individual that perhaps your

son just hasn't gotten to the one that will make the difference for him!!!

Anyway, I am sure pulling for you! I know that the period with Tyler was

extreme, and we all felt like we were going to end up in the loony bin if we

didn't find something... Thankfully, we finally did!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

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Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?

My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him

why are you misbehaving he says, " I didn't know I was being bad " . His

meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later

he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.

He has been arguing a lot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for

hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has

never had a problem at before.

Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair that had wheels on it

all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering

around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause

I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back

without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the

store.

He does not know when he is misbehaving even though he has been told

numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common

with AS/HFA children ?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

He was off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no

matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes

Adderall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -

20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in

the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and

hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any

environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in public

places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous

things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.

[Guest guest]

My 6yr old son who has Asperger's amd SPD has a horrible time with

impulsivity(part of the ADHD with Asperger's). He has no idea wht he does

the things he does and says once he starts he can't stop himself. A lot of

times he is just needing a lot of sensory inout and not getting it. Do you

have anything in place to help with your son's sensory issues? Riding on the

chair is one.

I know when my son is stressed he will seek sensory things out--running into

walls, knocking on walls, riding on chairs, bouncing on anything he can and

the latest is squealing.

MISSY

SAHM to some special kids!!!

I am who I am because that's who I am

--, 6, Aspergers

All kids are gifted; some just open their

packages earlier than others.

-- Carr

Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when

they are misbehaving?

> Need help and advice Please

>

> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?

>

> My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him

> why are you misbehaving he says, " I didn't know I was being bad " . His

> meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later

> he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.

> He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for

> hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has

> never had a problem at before.

> Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair that had wheels on it

> all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering

> around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause

> I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back

> without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the

> store.

> He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been told

> numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common

> with AS/HFA children ?

>

> He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?

>

> He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another reason?

>

> Maybe he's stressed about something?

>

> The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but he

> has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he can

> have time alone when ever he likes.

>

> Any suggestions

>

> He was off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no

> matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes

> Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -

> 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in

> the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and

> hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any

> environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc

> places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous

> things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.

>

> Please need help?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Missy,

You just reminded me of what use to do at 5...he would run across the living room and slam into the arm of the couch, over and over!

He is now 11 and he just got yelled at by the clerk at a local store for sitting in a wing back chair bouncing over and over and over again while I was paying for the stuff.

Actually, this RUDE woman looked over at him and said "WHAT, is wrong with YOU???" "STOP THAT"

I thought I was going lunge over the counter at her! I did not even give her an explanation because she was to ignorant to deserve one, we just walked out and have not (and will not) return to that store again!

Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?> Need help and advice Please>> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?>> My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him> why are you misbehaving he says," I didn't know I was being bad". His> meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later> he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.> He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for> hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has> never had a problem at before.> Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair that had wheels on it> all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering> around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause> I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back> without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the> store.> He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been told> numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common> with AS/HFA children ?>> He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?>> He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another reason?>> Maybe he's stressed about something?>> The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but he> has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he can> have time alone when ever he likes.>> Any suggestions>> He was off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no> matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes> Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -> 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in> the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and> hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any> environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc> places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous> things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.>> Please need help?>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

will bounce in a chair too. I have gotten strange looks and comments as well and brush them off. I had one lady say if he was her kid...... and I replied 'well then it's a good thing he isn't yours."

MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!!

I am who I am because that's who I am--, 6, Aspergers

All kids are gifted; some just open theirpackages earlier than others.

-- Carr

Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?> Need help and advice Please>> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?>> My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him> why are you misbehaving he says," I didn't know I was being bad". His> meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later> he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.> He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for> hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has> never had a problem at before.> Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair that had wheels on it> all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering> around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause> I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back> without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the> store.> He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been told> numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common> with AS/HFA children ?>> He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?>> He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another reason?>> Maybe he's stressed about something?>> The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but he> has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he can> have time alone when ever he likes.>> Any suggestions>> He was off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no> matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes> Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -> 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in> the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and> hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any> environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc> places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous> things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.>> Please need help?>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Dont you hate that???? You know what I love to do??? Embarass these people by giving them an explanation and watching the guilt of their behavior wash over their face...... They usually end up thinking about it the rest of the day...... designs <scottdesigns@...> wrote:

Missy,

You just reminded me of what use to do at 5...he would run across the living room and slam into the arm of the couch, over and over!

He is now 11 and he just got yelled at by the clerk at a local store for sitting in a wing back chair bouncing over and over and over again while I was paying for the stuff.

Actually, this RUDE woman looked over at him and said "WHAT, is wrong with YOU???" "STOP THAT"

I thought I was going lunge over the counter at her! I did not even give her an explanation because she was to ignorant to deserve one, we just walked out and have not (and will not) return to that store again!

Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?> Need help and advice Please>> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?>> My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him> why are you misbehaving he says," I didn't know I was being bad". His> meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later> he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.> He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for> hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has> never had a problem at before.> Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair

that had wheels on it> all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering> around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause> I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back> without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the> store.> He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been told> numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common> with AS/HFA children ?>> He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?>> He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another reason?>> Maybe he's stressed about something?>> The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but he> has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he can> have time alone when ever he likes.>> Any suggestions>> He was

off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no> matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes> Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -> 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in> the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and> hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any> environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc> places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous> things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.>> Please need help?>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Try a treadmill.... It works for my son.....Missy Feldhaus <itchy10@...> wrote:

My 6yr old son who has Asperger's amd SPD has a horrible time with impulsivity(part of the ADHD with Asperger's). He has no idea wht he does the things he does and says once he starts he can't stop himself. A lot of times he is just needing a lot of sensory inout and not getting it. Do you have anything in place to help with your son's sensory issues? Riding on the chair is one.I know when my son is stressed he will seek sensory things out--running into walls, knocking on walls, riding on chairs, bouncing on anything he can and the latest is squealing.MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!!I am who I am because that's who I am--, 6, AspergersAll kids are gifted; some just open theirpackages earlier than others.-- Carr Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?> Need help and advice Please>> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?>> My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him> why are you misbehaving he says," I didn't know I was being bad". His> meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later> he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.> He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for> hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has> never had a problem at before.> Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair that had wheels on it> all through the store he usually does not have a problem

wandering> around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause> I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back> without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the> store.> He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been told> numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common> with AS/HFA children ?>> He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?>> He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another reason?>> Maybe he's stressed about something?>> The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but he> has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he can> have time alone when ever he likes.>> Any suggestions>> He was off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no> matter what meds

he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes> Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -> 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in> the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and> hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any> environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc> places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous> things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.>> Please need help?>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Do you have anything in place to help with your son's sensory

issues? Riding on the chair is one.

> I know when my son is stressed he will seek sensory things out--

running into walls, knocking on walls, riding on chairs, bouncing on

anything he can and the latest is squealing.

My son does a lot of this walking into things, jumping up and down

for no reason to me anyway, riding on chair, but no squealing

thankfully and banging on things new thing and falling a lot.

>

> Thank you for the reply Missy

>

> MISSY

> SAHM to some special kids!!!

>

> I am who I am because that's who I am

> --, 6, Aspergers

>

>

> All kids are gifted; some just open their

> packages earlier than others.

>

> -- Carr

>

> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing

when

> they are misbehaving?

>

>

> > Need help and advice Please

> >

> > Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?

> >

> > My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask

him

> > why are you misbehaving he says, " I didn't know I was being bad " .

His

> > meds has been increased which he took today and after a while

later

> > he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.

> > He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop

for

> > hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he

has

> > never had a problem at before.

> > Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair that had wheels on it

> > all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering

> > around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers

cause

> > I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair

back

> > without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through

the

> > store.

> > He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been

told

> > numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this

common

> > with AS/HFA children ?

> >

> > He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?

> >

> > He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another

reason?

> >

> > Maybe he's stressed about something?

> >

> > The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but

he

> > has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he

can

> > have time alone when ever he likes.

> >

> > Any suggestions

> >

> > He was off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no

> > matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he

takes

> > Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -

> > 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also

in

> > the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and

> > hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any

> > environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc

> > places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous

> > things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.

> >

> > Please need help?

>

[Guest guest]

You know, I just can't believe that so many people try

to tell others what to do and be so judgmental!!!

I guess having an AS child, I have been in so many

embarassing and humbling situations that when I see a

child in public misbehaving, I ALWAYS give them the

benefit of the doubt. People who don't have a child

with this problem and who don't work with these kids

seem unable to accept that a neurological difference

can cause these " misbehaviors " .

So far, I've been pretty fortunate that people have

kept their thoughts to themselves. If they ever say

something though, I'd be really hacked and probably

give them a polite earful! ha ha ha

Hang in there,

Sara

--- Missy Feldhaus <itchy10@...> wrote:

> will bounce in a chair too. I have gotten

> strange looks and comments as well and brush them

> off. I had one lady say if he was her kid...... and

> I replied 'well then it's a good thing he isn't

> yours. "

> MISSY

> SAHM to some special kids!!!

>

> I am who I am because that's who I am

> --, 6, Aspergers

>

>

> All kids are gifted; some just open their

> packages earlier than others.

>

> -- Carr

>

> Do AS/HFA children

> have trouble knowing when

> they are misbehaving?

>

>

> > Need help and advice Please

> >

> > Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when

> they are misbehaving?

> >

> > My son has been getting in more trouble than

> usual and when I ask him

> > why are you misbehaving he says, " I didn't

> know I was being bad " . His

> > meds has been increased which he took today

> and after a while later

> > he ask me am I acting different am I being

> good now.

> > He has been arguing alot with me an his

> grandma, talking non stop for

> > hours practically bouncing off the walls while

> visiting places he has

> > never had a problem at before.

> > Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair

> that had wheels on it

> > all through the store he usually does not have

> a problem wandering

> > around this store cause it's small and He

> knows all the workers cause

> > I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him

> to put the chair back

> > without riding on it I turn around and he's

> riding again through the

> > store.

> > He does not know when he is misbehaving

> eventhough he has been told

> > numerous times about the same thing most of

> the time is this common

> > with AS/HFA children ?

> >

> > He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be

> the problem?

> >

> > He will be tested next month for CAPD could

> this be another reason?

> >

> > Maybe he's stressed about something?

> >

> > The last question we are going on a 8 day vac.

> on a cruise , but he

> > has known about it since 2003 so he's fine

> with it an he knows he can

> > have time alone when ever he likes.

> >

> > Any suggestions

> >

> > He was off his meds for about 2 months until

> yesterday, because no

> > matter what meds he has tried seems to do

> nothing right now he takes

> > Adderrall extended capsules, which were

> increased from 10mg -

> > 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has

> taken Concerta also in

> > the past and nothing seems to help with the

> impulse control and

> > hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems

> which happens in any

> > environment the hyperactivity only seems to

> happen out in publc

> > places. When he is impulsiveness he does some

> serious dangerous

> > things that can harm himself/others mostly

> himself.

> >

> > Please need help?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I wish I had been able to do that but honestly, this woman would not have understood if I hit her over the head with a brick! I don't think she even would have known what the word Autism meant!

Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?> Need help and advice Please>> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?>> My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him> why are you misbehaving he says," I didn't know I was being bad". His> meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later> he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.> He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for> hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has> never had a problem at before.> Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair that had wheels on it> all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering> around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause> I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back> without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the> store.> He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been told> numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common> with AS/HFA children ?>> He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?>> He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another reason?>> Maybe he's stressed about something?>> The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but he> has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he can> have time alone when ever he likes.>> Any suggestions>> He was off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no> matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes> Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -> 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in> the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and> hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any> environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc> places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous> things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.>> Please need help?>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Ah yes.... the truly stupid and clueless individual......... I have run into those on occasion.... :)designs <scottdesigns@...> wrote:

I wish I had been able to do that but honestly, this woman would not have understood if I hit her over the head with a brick! I don't think she even would have known what the word Autism meant!

Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?> Need help and advice Please>> Do AS/HFA children have trouble knowing when they are misbehaving?>> My son has been getting in more trouble than usual and when I ask him> why are you misbehaving he says," I didn't know I was being bad". His> meds has been increased which he took today and after a while later> he ask me am I acting different am I being good now.> He has been arguing alot with me an his grandma, talking non stop for> hours practically bouncing off the walls while visiting places he has> never had a problem at before.> Today and yesterday he was riding on a chair

that had wheels on it> all through the store he usually does not have a problem wandering> around this store cause it's small and He knows all the workers cause> I have been working there for 7 yrs. I ask him to put the chair back> without riding on it I turn around and he's riding again through the> store.> He does not know when he is misbehaving eventhough he has been told> numerous times about the same thing most of the time is this common> with AS/HFA children ?>> He also has a Cognitive Delay could this be the problem?>> He will be tested next month for CAPD could this be another reason?>> Maybe he's stressed about something?>> The last question we are going on a 8 day vac. on a cruise , but he> has known about it since 2003 so he's fine with it an he knows he can> have time alone when ever he likes.>> Any suggestions>> He was

off his meds for about 2 months until yesterday, because no> matter what meds he has tried seems to do nothing right now he takes> Adderrall extended capsules, which were increased from 10mg -> 20mg which he has only taken yesterday he has taken Concerta also in> the past and nothing seems to help with the impulse control and> hyperactivity but mainly the impulse problems which happens in any> environment the hyperactivity only seems to happen out in publc> places. When he is impulsiveness he does some serious dangerous> things that can harm himself/others mostly himself.>> Please need help?>>>>>>>>