Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Don'tknow how medically sound this is-but I give my grandson2 Nu-Theras a day with P5P in it-the one in the morning he does fine and at night -I was told to add selenium and Folinic acid pill with it and it has helped his hyperactivity a lot.lisa lally <tsbbcrw@...> wrote: Hi Stan My Max has had constipation issues for years. He is nt. The past couple of months at school have been terrible for him...antsy, getting into trouble...I keep getting the "he can't sit still.." talks..I think they want me to medicate him. He had an x-ray a short time back, and he has a large mass of poop in there, and the pcp rx'd Glycolax. He wouldn't take that. I think he has "encopresis" so I am thinking about getting oxypowder to clean him out. His gut is a little extended, he is a slim boy, but doesn't seem to be growing. His asd younger bro is going to be taller quite soon..much to Max's chagrin. I do plan to get the IGG test done on my 3 kids, but in the meantime, what should my first course of action be with this child? Thanks, you really are awesome! Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: Hi ,This was spoken about at the Think Tank and several doctors and researchers strongly believed that gut issues will cause B6 intollerance. It's a shame, but most of these kids REALLY need it but they can't tollerate it because of the gut issues. One might try some antifungals, a better diet (SCD minus IGG Food Allergies), zinc, and MB12 (MB12 took care of my gut issues).I would start with the gut first and then other problems could get much easier for you.I had IBS for more than 20 years and I can tell you from personal experience it effects everything else... your body, brain, immune system, bacterial and viral levels, etc.Get the gut cleared up and live is much easier.- Stan> > > >> > > > Hello, I posted this plan on another site, but thought that this > > may > > > > work better here...seems to be the best place to discuss > > virusess, > > > > valtrex, etc.> > > > > > > > I set up a plan of action to deal with our son's viruses...and > > would > > > > like to know what others think. I am terrified of doing this. I > > am > > > > terrified of the regression, sorry to be so honest. I am however > > > > very hopeful that this may be just what he needs. In my gut, I > > feel > > > > as though addressing the viruses is the answer after hearing > > signs, > > > > symptoms, "soft signs", etc. of what viruses looks like in our > > kids.> > > > > > > > I dont know if this matters or not, but I thought going into the > > > > viral protocol with valtrex, that perhaps I can minimize the > > > > regression? Or, is it better to have this regression? So...here > > it > > > > is:> > > > > > > > 1. Start right now getting our son on diflucan. I have an appt > > > > with Dr. Usman for May 24th to start valtrex. I am going to ask > > for > > > > a long term prescription for the diflucan (similare to what stan > > > > did)...to coincide with the valtrex. My son already has huge > > yeast > > > > issues, so starting diflucan now would be an added bonus. PS: > > Our > > > > son's yeast also increased with the MB-12.> > > > > > > > 2. Start virastop may 1st. Increase slowly.> > > > 3. Start OLE mid-may, increase slowly.> > > > 4. Start valtrex june 1st.> > > > > > > > Maybe I am over thinking this whole thing. I know that I am > > going > > > > crazy.....but would love to hear that this works! > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, does this plan make any sense?> > > > > > > > Kim> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Don'tknow how medically sound this is-but I give my grandson2 Nu-Theras a day with P5P in it-the one in the morning he does fine and at night -I was told to add selenium and Folinic acid pill with it and it has helped his hyperactivity a lot.lisa lally <tsbbcrw@...> wrote: Hi Stan My Max has had constipation issues for years. He is nt. The past couple of months at school have been terrible for him...antsy, getting into trouble...I keep getting the "he can't sit still.." talks..I think they want me to medicate him. He had an x-ray a short time back, and he has a large mass of poop in there, and the pcp rx'd Glycolax. He wouldn't take that. I think he has "encopresis" so I am thinking about getting oxypowder to clean him out. His gut is a little extended, he is a slim boy, but doesn't seem to be growing. His asd younger bro is going to be taller quite soon..much to Max's chagrin. I do plan to get the IGG test done on my 3 kids, but in the meantime, what should my first course of action be with this child? Thanks, you really are awesome! Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: Hi ,This was spoken about at the Think Tank and several doctors and researchers strongly believed that gut issues will cause B6 intollerance. It's a shame, but most of these kids REALLY need it but they can't tollerate it because of the gut issues. One might try some antifungals, a better diet (SCD minus IGG Food Allergies), zinc, and MB12 (MB12 took care of my gut issues).I would start with the gut first and then other problems could get much easier for you.I had IBS for more than 20 years and I can tell you from personal experience it effects everything else... your body, brain, immune system, bacterial and viral levels, etc.Get the gut cleared up and live is much easier.- Stan> > > >> > > > Hello, I posted this plan on another site, but thought that this > > may > > > > work better here...seems to be the best place to discuss > > virusess, > > > > valtrex, etc.> > > > > > > > I set up a plan of action to deal with our son's viruses...and > > would > > > > like to know what others think. I am terrified of doing this. I > > am > > > > terrified of the regression, sorry to be so honest. I am however > > > > very hopeful that this may be just what he needs. In my gut, I > > feel > > > > as though addressing the viruses is the answer after hearing > > signs, > > > > symptoms, "soft signs", etc. of what viruses looks like in our > > kids.> > > > > > > > I dont know if this matters or not, but I thought going into the > > > > viral protocol with valtrex, that perhaps I can minimize the > > > > regression? Or, is it better to have this regression? So...here > > it > > > > is:> > > > > > > > 1. Start right now getting our son on diflucan. I have an appt > > > > with Dr. Usman for May 24th to start valtrex. I am going to ask > > for > > > > a long term prescription for the diflucan (similare to what stan > > > > did)...to coincide with the valtrex. My son already has huge > > yeast > > > > issues, so starting diflucan now would be an added bonus. PS: > > Our > > > > son's yeast also increased with the MB-12.> > > > > > > > 2. Start virastop may 1st. Increase slowly.> > > > 3. Start OLE mid-may, increase slowly.> > > > 4. Start valtrex june 1st.> > > > > > > > Maybe I am over thinking this whole thing. I know that I am > > going > > > > crazy.....but would love to hear that this works! > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, does this plan make any sense?> > > > > > > > Kim> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Don'tknow how medically sound this is-but I give my grandson2 Nu-Theras a day with P5P in it-the one in the morning he does fine and at night -I was told to add selenium and Folinic acid pill with it and it has helped his hyperactivity a lot.lisa lally <tsbbcrw@...> wrote: Hi Stan My Max has had constipation issues for years. He is nt. The past couple of months at school have been terrible for him...antsy, getting into trouble...I keep getting the "he can't sit still.." talks..I think they want me to medicate him. He had an x-ray a short time back, and he has a large mass of poop in there, and the pcp rx'd Glycolax. He wouldn't take that. I think he has "encopresis" so I am thinking about getting oxypowder to clean him out. His gut is a little extended, he is a slim boy, but doesn't seem to be growing. His asd younger bro is going to be taller quite soon..much to Max's chagrin. I do plan to get the IGG test done on my 3 kids, but in the meantime, what should my first course of action be with this child? Thanks, you really are awesome! Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: Hi ,This was spoken about at the Think Tank and several doctors and researchers strongly believed that gut issues will cause B6 intollerance. It's a shame, but most of these kids REALLY need it but they can't tollerate it because of the gut issues. One might try some antifungals, a better diet (SCD minus IGG Food Allergies), zinc, and MB12 (MB12 took care of my gut issues).I would start with the gut first and then other problems could get much easier for you.I had IBS for more than 20 years and I can tell you from personal experience it effects everything else... your body, brain, immune system, bacterial and viral levels, etc.Get the gut cleared up and live is much easier.- Stan> > > >> > > > Hello, I posted this plan on another site, but thought that this > > may > > > > work better here...seems to be the best place to discuss > > virusess, > > > > valtrex, etc.> > > > > > > > I set up a plan of action to deal with our son's viruses...and > > would > > > > like to know what others think. I am terrified of doing this. I > > am > > > > terrified of the regression, sorry to be so honest. I am however > > > > very hopeful that this may be just what he needs. In my gut, I > > feel > > > > as though addressing the viruses is the answer after hearing > > signs, > > > > symptoms, "soft signs", etc. of what viruses looks like in our > > kids.> > > > > > > > I dont know if this matters or not, but I thought going into the > > > > viral protocol with valtrex, that perhaps I can minimize the > > > > regression? Or, is it better to have this regression? So...here > > it > > > > is:> > > > > > > > 1. Start right now getting our son on diflucan. I have an appt > > > > with Dr. Usman for May 24th to start valtrex. I am going to ask > > for > > > > a long term prescription for the diflucan (similare to what stan > > > > did)...to coincide with the valtrex. My son already has huge > > yeast > > > > issues, so starting diflucan now would be an added bonus. PS: > > Our > > > > son's yeast also increased with the MB-12.> > > > > > > > 2. Start virastop may 1st. Increase slowly.> > > > 3. Start OLE mid-may, increase slowly.> > > > 4. Start valtrex june 1st.> > > > > > > > Maybe I am over thinking this whole thing. I know that I am > > going > > > > crazy.....but would love to hear that this works! > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, does this plan make any sense?> > > > > > > > Kim> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 First, I'm not up on Glycolax or encopresis. But, in general I would be working on getting more magnesium in him. You might buy some epson salts (just wonderful stuff) for the bath and get some magnesium in orally if you can. Both are great with constipation. You can also buy some Emergen C and get that going. I still give my son 1G of Emergen C a day... great stuff. Also, if you do an OATS test you might find he has bacterial or fungal disbiosis. I would start there if that were my child. - Stan > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I posted this plan on another site, but thought that this > > > may > > > > > work better here...seems to be the best place to discuss > > > virusess, > > > > > valtrex, etc. > > > > > > > > > > I set up a plan of action to deal with our son's viruses...and > > > would > > > > > like to know what others think. I am terrified of doing this. I > > > am > > > > > terrified of the regression, sorry to be so honest. I am however > > > > > very hopeful that this may be just what he needs. In my gut, I > > > feel > > > > > as though addressing the viruses is the answer after hearing > > > signs, > > > > > symptoms, " soft signs " , etc. of what viruses looks like in our > > > kids. > > > > > > > > > > I dont know if this matters or not, but I thought going into the > > > > > viral protocol with valtrex, that perhaps I can minimize the > > > > > regression? Or, is it better to have this regression? So...here > > > it > > > > > is: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Start right now getting our son on diflucan. I have an appt > > > > > with Dr. Usman for May 24th to start valtrex. I am going to ask > > > for > > > > > a long term prescription for the diflucan (similare to what stan > > > > > did)...to coincide with the valtrex. My son already has huge > > > yeast > > > > > issues, so starting diflucan now would be an added bonus. PS: > > > Our > > > > > son's yeast also increased with the MB-12. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Start virastop may 1st. Increase slowly. > > > > > 3. Start OLE mid-may, increase slowly. > > > > > 4. Start valtrex june 1st. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am over thinking this whole thing. I know that I am > > > going > > > > > crazy.....but would love to hear that this works! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, does this plan make any sense? > > > > > > > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 First, I'm not up on Glycolax or encopresis. But, in general I would be working on getting more magnesium in him. You might buy some epson salts (just wonderful stuff) for the bath and get some magnesium in orally if you can. Both are great with constipation. You can also buy some Emergen C and get that going. I still give my son 1G of Emergen C a day... great stuff. Also, if you do an OATS test you might find he has bacterial or fungal disbiosis. I would start there if that were my child. - Stan > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I posted this plan on another site, but thought that this > > > may > > > > > work better here...seems to be the best place to discuss > > > virusess, > > > > > valtrex, etc. > > > > > > > > > > I set up a plan of action to deal with our son's viruses...and > > > would > > > > > like to know what others think. I am terrified of doing this. I > > > am > > > > > terrified of the regression, sorry to be so honest. I am however > > > > > very hopeful that this may be just what he needs. In my gut, I > > > feel > > > > > as though addressing the viruses is the answer after hearing > > > signs, > > > > > symptoms, " soft signs " , etc. of what viruses looks like in our > > > kids. > > > > > > > > > > I dont know if this matters or not, but I thought going into the > > > > > viral protocol with valtrex, that perhaps I can minimize the > > > > > regression? Or, is it better to have this regression? So...here > > > it > > > > > is: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Start right now getting our son on diflucan. I have an appt > > > > > with Dr. Usman for May 24th to start valtrex. I am going to ask > > > for > > > > > a long term prescription for the diflucan (similare to what stan > > > > > did)...to coincide with the valtrex. My son already has huge > > > yeast > > > > > issues, so starting diflucan now would be an added bonus. PS: > > > Our > > > > > son's yeast also increased with the MB-12. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Start virastop may 1st. Increase slowly. > > > > > 3. Start OLE mid-may, increase slowly. > > > > > 4. Start valtrex june 1st. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am over thinking this whole thing. I know that I am > > > going > > > > > crazy.....but would love to hear that this works! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, does this plan make any sense? > > > > > > > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Do we do the OATS test through a pcp or on our own? Blood test? Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: First, I'm not up on Glycolax or encopresis.But, in general I would be working on getting more magnesium in him. You might buy some epson salts (just wonderful stuff) for the bath and get some magnesium in orally if you can. Both are great with constipation. You can also buy some Emergen C and get that going. I still give my son 1G of Emergen C a day... great stuff. Also, if you do an OATS test you might find he has bacterial or fungal disbiosis.I would start there if that were my child.- Stan> > > > >> > > > > Hello, I posted this plan on another site, but thought that this > > > may > > > > > work better here...seems to be the best place to discuss > > > virusess, > > > > > valtrex, etc.> > > > > > > > > > I set up a plan of action to deal with our son's viruses...and > > > would > > > > > like to know what others think. I am terrified of doing this. I > > > am > > > > > terrified of the regression, sorry to be so honest. I am however > > > > > very hopeful that this may be just what he needs. In my gut, I > > > feel > > > > > as though addressing the viruses is the answer after hearing > > > signs, > > > > > symptoms, "soft signs", etc. of what viruses looks like in our > > > kids.> > > > > > > > > > I dont know if this matters or not, but I thought going into the > > > > > viral protocol with valtrex, that perhaps I can minimize the > > > > > regression? Or, is it better to have this regression? So...here > > > it > > > > > is:> > > > > > > > > > 1. Start right now getting our son on diflucan. I have an appt > > > > > with Dr. Usman for May 24th to start valtrex. I am going to ask > > > for > > > > > a long term prescription for the diflucan (similare to what stan > > > > > did)...to coincide with the valtrex. My son already has huge > > > yeast > > > > > issues, so starting diflucan now would be an added bonus. PS: > > > Our > > > > > son's yeast also increased with the MB-12.> > > > > > > > > > 2. Start virastop may 1st. Increase slowly.> > > > > 3. Start OLE mid-may, increase slowly.> > > > > 4. Start valtrex june 1st.> > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am over thinking this whole thing. I know that I am > > > going > > > > > crazy.....but would love to hear that this works! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, does this plan make any sense?> > > > > > > > > > Kim> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Do we do the OATS test through a pcp or on our own? Blood test? Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: First, I'm not up on Glycolax or encopresis.But, in general I would be working on getting more magnesium in him. You might buy some epson salts (just wonderful stuff) for the bath and get some magnesium in orally if you can. Both are great with constipation. You can also buy some Emergen C and get that going. I still give my son 1G of Emergen C a day... great stuff. Also, if you do an OATS test you might find he has bacterial or fungal disbiosis.I would start there if that were my child.- Stan> > > > >> > > > > Hello, I posted this plan on another site, but thought that this > > > may > > > > > work better here...seems to be the best place to discuss > > > virusess, > > > > > valtrex, etc.> > > > > > > > > > I set up a plan of action to deal with our son's viruses...and > > > would > > > > > like to know what others think. I am terrified of doing this. I > > > am > > > > > terrified of the regression, sorry to be so honest. I am however > > > > > very hopeful that this may be just what he needs. In my gut, I > > > feel > > > > > as though addressing the viruses is the answer after hearing > > > signs, > > > > > symptoms, "soft signs", etc. of what viruses looks like in our > > > kids.> > > > > > > > > > I dont know if this matters or not, but I thought going into the > > > > > viral protocol with valtrex, that perhaps I can minimize the > > > > > regression? Or, is it better to have this regression? So...here > > > it > > > > > is:> > > > > > > > > > 1. Start right now getting our son on diflucan. I have an appt > > > > > with Dr. Usman for May 24th to start valtrex. I am going to ask > > > for > > > > > a long term prescription for the diflucan (similare to what stan > > > > > did)...to coincide with the valtrex. My son already has huge > > > yeast > > > > > issues, so starting diflucan now would be an added bonus. PS: > > > Our > > > > > son's yeast also increased with the MB-12.> > > > > > > > > > 2. Start virastop may 1st. Increase slowly.> > > > > 3. Start OLE mid-may, increase slowly.> > > > > 4. Start valtrex june 1st.> > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am over thinking this whole thing. I know that I am > > > going > > > > > crazy.....but would love to hear that this works! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, does this plan make any sense?> > > > > > > > > > Kim> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 OATS is a urine test by Great Plains and some other labs. - Stan > > Do we do the OATS test through a pcp or on our own? Blood test? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 OATS is a urine test by Great Plains and some other labs. - Stan > > Do we do the OATS test through a pcp or on our own? Blood test? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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